Why dont game companies EVER listen to their fans?

Ok some do but MOST dont. They dont listen to the complaints, such as blizzard, bungie, call of duty. Capcom does a bit though. Im refering more to diablo 3 right now, blizzard doesnt give a damn what the gamers think, they think theyre so perfect taking and adding in a bunch of features from diablo 2 lod even though people are complaining. If I had my own game company I would ask on the forum for ideas and have polls with ideas for them to choose from, like what the hell, who the hell do they think they are? we're the ones who are going to buy the damn game, its not theirs its ours!

People on forums generally don't represent the entire gaming population.UCF_Knight

now you listen here..... youre right

Bungie doesn't listen to their fans while Capcom does?

What the hell?

Because fans aren't worth listening to?

They dont listen to the complaints

hadoken

Ok, yah I've seen some companies behave this way

bungie

hadoken

Uh whaaaaaaaat?

Capcom listens to it's fans?

Only smaller/indie companies usually do then later on once they get more money they become corrupt and say "SCREW YOU I GOT WHAT I WANT!"

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Koei somewhat listen to their fans on facebook. They talk with them. Kinda have to though. :P

Only smaller/indie companies usually do then later on once they get more money they become corrupt and say "SCREW YOU I GOT WHAT I WANT!"

NoodleFighter

Your post just gave me a mind busting revelation, but I don't think this thread is in-depth enough for me to reveal what I have just had an epiphany on

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casharmy

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Jynxzor

:P ehh details.

I imported the Asian version anyway before the convert release.

Cause half the time the fans dont even know that they want, PEOPLE dont know want they want and their opinions are constantly changing.

Fans typically don't know what they want. A feature sounds good on paper but in practice could be completely terrible if implimented.

I notice developers actually listen to fans on technical things whether it be specific parts of a feature or just adding an option. Like the highlighting objects in Deus Ex 3 is a mechanic that not a lot of people agreed with ('ruins the immersion') when it is perfectly fine in theory. Instead of removing it they simply changed a specific part of the feature in making it a toggle.

Most people are idiots and not worth listening to, that's why.

I remember that Sucker Punch listened to their fans after everyone had a cry about Cole looking different.:P

I gotta admit, if I was a dev, I'd prefer to do what I want to do, not the community. This process then leads to new and creative ideas. It might be ok to listen to what the fans want sometimes, but seriously though, I don't expect it. It's all part of the creative process to do what they want.

Koei somewhat listen to their fans on facebook. They talk with them. Kinda have to though. :P

timmy00

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Koei somewhat listen to their fans on facebook. They talk with them. Kinda have to though. :P

Nerkcon

They also commented that they might considered a Warriors Orochi 3 when someone asked about it. I say they do it more often then most devs out there. Still could do a lot more though. :P

They haven't commented about that rumor though so I hope not. The sales for DW7 was decent overseas. For a game like Dynasty Warriors at least.

I can see them not bringing the side games though. (Like Empires, etc.)

Konami is the only big one that actually listen to their fans

or maybe its just Kojima

Depends on the game and the fanbase, some portions of fanbases are so rabid and bad tempered that it's in the devs best interests to completely ignore them and do their own thing or else their likely to mutilate their game. Part of the Zelda fanbase is a great example of this, no game can ever match the gold standard of OOT in some peoples eyes and every new entry is automatically worse than the previous entry even though the complainers might never have played it before.

OOT -> MM (WTF this is to hard it's not Zelda stop killing the series, make it more like OOT)

MM -> WW (WTF is this Celda crap, it's to kiddy make it more mature like MM)

WW -> TP (WTF is this brown gray OOT rehash, give us a unique fresh experience like WW was)

TP -> SS (WTF Celda again OMG stop giving us this kiddy crap, we want a realistic game like TP)

EDIT: Mario is much better because Nintendo ignored anything the fanbase had to say same with Metroid. I remember when Metroid Prime was first announced, the amount of hate and fanboy rage at the idea of Metroid not being a 2D side scroller was incredible yet it turned out to be one of if not the best Metroid Game.

I can vividly remember Bungie fixing Halo2s multiplayer based on fan feedback. I think they did the same with 3, and maybe even Reach.

Capcom listens to it's fans?

Jynxzor

They do actually, just not all of them. Fan feedback is the reason strider, vergil and phoenix wright got into MVC3.

Depends on the game and the fanbase, some portions of fanbases are so rabid and bad tempered that it's in the devs best interests to completely ignore them and do their own thing or else their likely to mutilate their game. Part of the Zelda fanbase is a great example of this, no game can ever match the gold standard of OOT in some peoples eyes and every new entry is automatically worse than the previous entry even though the complainers might never have played it before.

OOT -> MM (WTF this is to hard it's not Zelda stop killing the series, make it more like OOT)

MM -> WW (WTF is this Celda crap, it's to kiddy make it more mature like MM)

WW -> TP (WTF is this brown gray OOT rehash, give us a unique fresh experience like WW was)

TP -> SS (WTF Celda again OMG stop giving us this kiddy crap, we want a realistic game like TP)

EDIT: Mario is much better because Nintendo ignored anything the fanbase had to say same with Metroid. I remember when Metroid Prime was first announced, the amount of hate and fanboy rage at the idea of Metroid not being a 2D side scroller was incredible yet it turned out to be one of if not the best Metroid Game.

ugoo18

That is so true and hilarious.

Apparently Bungie does, which is why they released the atrocity that is known as ODST and the quick cash in Halo CE remaster. Heil68

Because if game companies listened solely to their fans, their games wouldn't attract new gamers and they will not be able to grow.

Fans always want more of the same. If a game sold 500k and the developer makes it just like the first with some new levels and whatnot, the odds of selling over 500k are small as it isn't appealing to a larger audience.

If it was up to the fans a lot of games we enjoy today would not exist.

OOT -> MM (WTF this is to hard it's not Zelda stop killing the series, make it more like OOT)

MM -> WW (WTF is this Celda crap, it's to kiddy make it more mature like MM)

WW -> TP (WTF is this brown gray OOT rehash, give us a unique fresh experience like WW was)

TP -> SS (WTF Celda again OMG stop giving us this kiddy crap, we want a realistic game like TP)

ugoo18

This couldn't be more accurate.

Because when they do the modern WoW happens?

Because when they do the modern WoW happens?

rzepak

Apparently Bungie does, which is why they released the atrocity that is known as ODST and the quick cash in Halo CE remaster. Heil68

I'm confused by this. What exactly do you mean? Fans have been wanting a Halo remake for quite some time.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Apparently Bungie does, which is why they released the atrocity that is known as ODST and the quick cash in Halo CE remaster. Heirren

I'm confused by this. What exactly do you mean? Fans have been wanting a Halo remake for quite some time.

The halo remake doesn't come with the original's MP from what I remember.

Bungie doesn't listen to their fan-base? What?

Apparently Bungie does, which is why they released the atrocity that is known as ODST and the quick cash in Halo CE remaster. Heil68

If companies listened to the idiots that predominately post on these forums I think I'd have to quit gaming. Thank god they don't.

Because if game companies listened solely to their fans, their games wouldn't attract new gamers and they will not be able to grow.

Fans always want more of the same. If a game sold 500k and the developer makes it just like the first with some new levels and whatnot, the odds of selling over 500k are small as it isn't appealing to a larger audience.

If it was up to the fans a lot of games we enjoy today would not exist.

Wasdie

Ubisoft said they listened to their fans.

Ok some do but MOST dont. They dont listen to the complaints, such as blizzard, bungie, call of duty. Capcom does a bit though. Im refering more to diablo 3 right now, blizzard doesnt give a damn what the gamers think, they think theyre so perfect taking and adding in a bunch of features from diablo 2 lod even though people are complaining. If I had my own game company I would ask on the forum for ideas and have polls with ideas for them to choose from, like what the hell, who the hell do they think they are? we're the ones who are going to buy the damn game, its not theirs its ours!

hadoken

Blizzard and Bungie are some of the companies that are best at listening to their fans.

you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Bungie and Blizzard don't listen to their fans, but Capcom does?

Are you f***ing high, TC?

It's imposible to listen to their fans, especially when it's huge and divided like the final fantasy fans. Some liked ff 6 more, some liked 7 more, some 8 , 9, 10, ( no i'm not saying 11), 12 or 13 more. seriously who can they listen to at this point.

These forums don't even represent a fraction of the gaming population.