Why don't people realise that Nintendo doesn't care about it's fans?

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#1 ShadowMoses900
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Let's face it people, Nintendo has dumped you. They used to care and give you amazing and innovative games, but they don't anymore. They simply kicked their fanbase to the curb and decided to go with the "Wii Dance Party 500" crowed instead. And yet their fans refuse to believe this, why? Don't believe me? I'll explain...

When the Nintendo fans were SO excited about Xeno Blade what did Nintendo do? They gave them the finger! When Nintendo fans wanted an awesome HD experience what did Nintendo do? Give them the Wii lol! How many Zelda games have they made for the Wii this gen? Only ONE, and that was a Game Cube game! Are you telling me that you wouldn't want to have an awesome HD Zelda game with AMAZING graphics on a more powerful system? Imagine the detail of a Nintendo system that is just as or more powerful than the current systems and have Zelda on it, picture walking through a realistic and great looking forest on your horse and coming out into a HUGE field with amazing detail and draw distance! Deny it all you want, but you know you would love to have that.

Nintendo could do it too, but like I said they won't because that's what their fans want and Nintendo doesn't listen or even care about them anymore. The same thing is going to happen with the 3DS, it's going to get filled with a bunch of party games. I feel bad for anyone who bought the 3DS at launch, I really do. You know they are going to make an improved version with two analog sticks and better batter life and better 3D, you just know it. I suggest you sell your current 3DS models and just save the money for the new model, or better yet the Vita! That will probably make you more happy!

It's a shame because I miss the old Nintendo, I REALLY do. :( What Nintendo NEEDS to do is keep the Wii but make another system with more power that isn't motion control and have a good free online service and 3rd party support for games that arn't possible on the Wii. Nintendo would easily win all gamers hearts again if they did this, but they won't. Because they don't care about us.

I wish people would wake up and realise this....

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#2 foxhound_fox
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NOA =/= Nintendo
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#3 mmmwksil
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People tend to forget Nintendo is a business before anything else. And what does a business do?

Make money.

Where's the money now?

In the casual market.

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#4 theuncharted34
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They're simply trying to cater to 2 different consumers. LIKE ALWAYS. Not even going to touch on everything you said, don't have the time.

Anyways, about the whole "sell your 3ds now" that'd be a horrible idea. After the price cut trying to sell the one I paid $250 for would make me lose so much money it's not even funny. I will up-sell it to get the new model when it comes out, because they always have deals like that. "Trade in your old ds and get the new one fairly cheap" kind of thing.

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#5 nintendoboy16
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For Nintendo, even "listening to the fans" is bad because even if they do what the fans want, Ninty gets lambasted for it. It's been going on for WAY too long.
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#6 foxhound_fox
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Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid: Other M, Donkey Kong Country Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn kind of throw out the whole "Wii is only party games" thing you got going here.
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I don't think you can fault Nintendo necessarily for only having one Zelda game out this generation and no I'm not talking about Twilight but Skyward Sword, if the game is great it shouldn't matter how long it takes in the end. As for the HD experience as I can remember many Nintendo fans didn't care about it back in 2007. The Xenoblade thing, well it would have been nice for them to bring it but it made no financial sense, especially the way it's been selling in Europe. The 3DS? It's been a botched launch, nobody is disagreeing with that but at least they are trying to rectify that and have made it public how dumb they were and are sorry for it.
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#8 ShadowMoses900
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They're simply trying to cater to 2 different consumers. LIKE ALWAYS. Not even going to touch on everything you said, don't have the time.

Anyways, about the whole "sell your 3ds now" that'd be a horrible idea. After the price cut trying to sell the one I paid $250 for would make me lose so much money it's not even funny. I will up-sell it to get the new model when it comes out, because they always have deals like that. "Trade in your old ds and get the new one fairly cheap" kind of thing.

theuncharted34

No, they have abandoned you completely. See I have no problem with them branching out to another audince, nothing wrong with that. What IS wrong however is dumping yourfanbase competely and giving them the finger! What they should do is give both audiences what they enjoy, have the party games for the new group of people, but also have the other more complex and advanced games for your fans. But Nintendo is never going to do that.

And as for the 3DS, I don't see the point in even owning one. Especially at this point and why would anyone buy one with the Vita coming out later?

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#9 OreoMilkshake
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They used to care and give you amazing and innovative games, but they don't anymore.

ShadowMoses900



I'm sorry to disagree with you.

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#10 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

They're simply trying to cater to 2 different consumers. LIKE ALWAYS. Not even going to touch on everything you said, don't have the time.

Anyways, about the whole "sell your 3ds now" that'd be a horrible idea. After the price cut trying to sell the one I paid $250 for would make me lose so much money it's not even funny. I will up-sell it to get the new model when it comes out, because they always have deals like that. "Trade in your old ds and get the new one fairly cheap" kind of thing.

ShadowMoses900

No, they have abandoned you completely. See I have no problem with them branching out to another audince, nothing wrong with that. What IS wrong however is dumping yourfanbase competely and giving them the finger! What they should do is give both audiences what they enjoy, have the party games for the new group of people, but also have the other more complex and advanced games for your fans. But Nintendo is never going to do that.

And as for the 3DS, I don't see the point in even owning one. Especially at this point and why would anyone buy one with the Vita coming out later?

Oh you had to go there, ShadowMoses :P

Pokemon and Mario games, pal. Pokemon and Mario!

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#11 peterw007
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

They're simply trying to cater to 2 different consumers. LIKE ALWAYS. Not even going to touch on everything you said, don't have the time.

Anyways, about the whole "sell your 3ds now" that'd be a horrible idea. After the price cut trying to sell the one I paid $250 for would make me lose so much money it's not even funny. I will up-sell it to get the new model when it comes out, because they always have deals like that. "Trade in your old ds and get the new one fairly cheap" kind of thing.

mmmwksil

No, they have abandoned you completely. See I have no problem with them branching out to another audince, nothing wrong with that. What IS wrong however is dumping yourfanbase competely and giving them the finger! What they should do is give both audiences what they enjoy, have the party games for the new group of people, but also have the other more complex and advanced games for your fans. But Nintendo is never going to do that.

And as for the 3DS, I don't see the point in even owning one. Especially at this point and why would anyone buy one with the Vita coming out later?

Oh you had to go there, ShadowMoses :P

Pokemon and Mario games, pal. Pokemon and Mario!

And the new handheld Zelda! You can never get enough Zelda.

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#12 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

They're simply trying to cater to 2 different consumers. LIKE ALWAYS. Not even going to touch on everything you said, don't have the time.

Anyways, about the whole "sell your 3ds now" that'd be a horrible idea. After the price cut trying to sell the one I paid $250 for would make me lose so much money it's not even funny. I will up-sell it to get the new model when it comes out, because they always have deals like that. "Trade in your old ds and get the new one fairly cheap" kind of thing.

ShadowMoses900

No, they have abandoned you completely. See I have no problem with them branching out to another audince, nothing wrong with that. What IS wrong however is dumping yourfanbase competely and giving them the finger! What they should do is give both audiences what they enjoy, have the party games for the new group of people, but also have the other more complex and advanced games for your fans. But Nintendo is never going to do that.

And as for the 3DS, I don't see the point in even owning one. Especially at this point and why would anyone buy one with the Vita coming out later?

What nonsense is this? Ninty has made many, many incredible core titles this generation.

But yeah, there is no point in having a 3ds right now. I can't tell you how burned I feel by that thing right now.

Never the less, when the redesign comes out it'll be a great system by then - the redesign will fix the faults of the current model and by that time tons of high quality games will be out for the system.

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#13 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

They're simply trying to cater to 2 different consumers. LIKE ALWAYS. Not even going to touch on everything you said, don't have the time.

Anyways, about the whole "sell your 3ds now" that'd be a horrible idea. After the price cut trying to sell the one I paid $250 for would make me lose so much money it's not even funny. I will up-sell it to get the new model when it comes out, because they always have deals like that. "Trade in your old ds and get the new one fairly cheap" kind of thing.

ShadowMoses900

No, they have abandoned you completely. See I have no problem with them branching out to another audince, nothing wrong with that. What IS wrong however is dumping yourfanbase competely and giving them the finger! What they should do is give both audiences what they enjoy, have the party games for the new group of people, but also have the other more complex and advanced games for your fans. But Nintendo is never going to do that.

And as for the 3DS, I don't see the point in even owning one. Especially at this point and why would anyone buy one with the Vita coming out later?

Funny, last I remember, gamers started treating Nintendo like crap long before this happened. Which console era was that? Oh yeah! The N64!

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#14 foxhound_fox
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Also, since the TC clearly isn't a Nintendo fan... how does he think he is an authority on what Nintendo fans expect from Nintendo?
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#15 WilliamRLBaker
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No company cares about its fans...just sometimes what makes them money benefits the fans.

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#16 ShadowMoses900
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Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid: Other M, Donkey Kong Country Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn kind of throw out the whole "Wii is only party games" thing you got going here.foxhound_fox

Mario Galaxy 2 is fun, but not anywhere near as good as Mario 64! And there are much better platformers out there like Little Big Planet, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted IMO.

Metroid Other M was boring

Donkey Kong Country Returns looks fun, but it's long over due and there are too many better platformser out there in the market already like the ones I said above.

And lol at kirby! There has NEVER been a good kirby game, ever. I remember I bought one for my DS and I beat it in 30 minutes, no joke. You also couldn't die at ALL! Talk about desing flaws! Huge dissapointment IMO!

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#17 vtbob88
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I think the OP is missing the fact that while graphics are nice, they aren't a breaking point for a lot of gamers. I like playing HD games, however if I had to choose between a game being in HD or being an overall fun game I would rather have fun. And how has Nintendo abandoned their fans? I seem to remember 2 mario galaxies, donkey kong country returns, metroid prime 3, trilogy, and other M, twilight princess and skyward sword, mario kart wii, kirby epic yarn, super smash bros brawl, super paper mario, etc. I feel like this generation they have had more games for fans than the last generation

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#18 peterw007
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What nonsense is this? Ninty has made many, many incredible core titles this generation.

But yeah, there is no point in having a 3ds right now. I can't tell you how burned I feel by that thing right now.

Never the less, when the redesign comes out it'll be a great system by then - the redesign will fix the faults of the current model and by that time tons of high quality games will be out for the system.

theuncharted34

Endless Ocean, Trace Memory, Hotel Dusk, Captain Rainbow, etc...those are just a few of the new Nintendo IPs that always fly under everybody's radar.

And what about sequels to long-forgotten franchises like Excitebots, Battalion Wars 2, Pilotwings, Punch-out!! and Sin and Punishment: Star Successor?

They even brought back traditional console Kirby / Donkey Kong Country gameplay!

How can the TC claim that Nintendo doesn't care about its long-term fans, when Nintendo keeps coming out with all kinds of niche, core-oriented titles?

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#19 ShadowMoses900
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No company cares about its fans...just sometimes what makes them money benefits the fans.

WilliamRLBaker

Not nesseccarily, they are all about money which is fine with me because I'm a capatilist and I have no problem with people wanting to make a profit. But there is a RIGHT way to do it and a WRONG way, and Nintendo has done it the wrong way. Companies do care about their fans to an extentbecause that is who supported them when they were small and keeps them in business. But Nintendo doesn't understand that.

But to be honest I feel all the companies have taked advantage of consumers this gen in one way or another. But that's only because people let them.

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#20 Dibdibdobdobo
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Nintendo of where now?! Oh im in europe. Im good.

No company cares. were all just potential money.

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#21 vtbob88
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid: Other M, Donkey Kong Country Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn kind of throw out the whole "Wii is only party games" thing you got going here.ShadowMoses900

Mario Galaxy 2 is fun, but not anywhere near as good as Mario 64! And there are much better platformers out there like Little Big Planet, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted IMO.

Metroid Other M was boring

Donkey Kong Country Returns looks fun, but it's long over due and there are too many better platformser out there in the market already like the ones I said above.

And lol at kirby! There has NEVER been a good kirby game, ever. I remember I bought one for my DS and I beat it in 30 minutes, no joke. You also couldn't die at ALL! Talk about desing flaws! Huge dissapointment IMO!

Get back to us when Little Big Planet and Rachet and Clank are as polished and easily controlled as Mario Galaxy. And also, could you let us know how you know donkey kong country returns isn't as good as the ones you listed without playing, because in some ways I would say its one of my favorites this generation

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Also, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid: Other M, Donkey Kong Country Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn kind of throw out the whole "Wii is only party games" thing you got going here.ShadowMoses900

Mario Galaxy 2 is fun, but not anywhere near as good as Mario 64! And there are much better platformers out there like Little Big Planet, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted IMO.

Metroid Other M was boring

Donkey Kong Country Returns looks fun, but it's long over due and there are too many better platformser out there in the market already like the ones I said above.

And lol at kirby! There has NEVER been a good kirby game, ever. I remember I bought one for my DS and I beat it in 30 minutes, no joke. You also couldn't die at ALL! Talk about desing flaws! Huge dissapointment IMO!

Better than Mario 64 is subjective. LBP is a joke of a platformer, Ratchet & Clank is more of an action adventure game, and Uncharted is a TPS with some platforming elements.

That's your opinion; many found the game fun and engaging.

Looks fun? You haven't played it? You can't determine if it is better or worse then. And those previously mentioned games aren't exactly competition.

Kirby is designed to be easy. Always was. You didn't know that?

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Mario Galaxy 2 is fun, but not anywhere near as good as Mario 64! And there are much better platformers out there like Little Big Planet, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted IMO.

Metroid Other M was boring

Donkey Kong Country Returns looks fun, but it's long over due and there are too many better platformser out there in the market already like the ones I said above.

And lol at kirby! There has NEVER been a good kirby game, ever. I remember I bought one for my DS and I beat it in 30 minutes, no joke. You also couldn't die at ALL! Talk about desing flaws! Huge dissapointment IMO!

ShadowMoses900




You know, I shouldn't bother with this, but it is just so priceless.

1) Your opinion doesn't matter. SMG2 is leaps and bounds better than any platformer this generation has seen.

And Uncharted, a platformer?

2) Did you even play it all the way through, or give up after 10 minutes because its a Nintendo game on the Wii?

3) DKCR is second only to SMG2 as a platformer.

4) If you don't like Kirby, then why do you even care? Its a good game for people that do.

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Nintendo doesn't need to listen to the fans-- they just need some friggin' common sense.
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#25 Maroxad
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Nintendo doesnt care about me but neither does Sony or Microsoft. They care about our wallets though. But as long as they supply me with good games. I am content.

Oh and btw, Nintendo has always been casual. They never abandoned their main audience.

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I remember I bought one for my DS and I beat it in 30 minutes.

ShadowMoses900
It's amazing that you have to lie to make a point.
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Whereas I confess myself heavily disappointed with the Wii, and the 3DS launch, you're just spewing nonsense. First, why would anyone sell their 3DS? Keep it, it's getting TONS of great games in like a month now. Secondly, that would also be the reason why anyone would buy the 3DS over the Vita- because of the GAMES. Technology itself is only a tool, after all. Next, your assertion that Nintendo dumped the core gaming audience. Let's examine this carefully, shall we? On the Wii, Nintendo made The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Kirby's Dreamland, Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Metroid: Other M, Xenoblade Chronicles, Sin and Punishment: Star Successor, Super Paper Mario, Excitebots, ExciteTruck, The Last Story and Pandora's Tower. Considering, by the way, that all of those games are 'core, complex games, and that two of them are in fact the highest rated games this generation (and in the top three rated games of all time), that argument already goes flying out the window, BUT... On the DS, they have an even longer crazy ass list. Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Professor Layton, Pokemon, Golden Sun, Hotel Dusk, it just goes on and on. So I'd say that Nintendo, while taking a dump on its fans more than ever before, STILL cares for its fans. Oh, and you want a powerful HD system from Nintendo with a free online service and a non motion centered control scheme? Look no further than the Wii U.
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#28 stizz-
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No company cares about its fans...just sometimes what makes them money benefits the fans.

WilliamRLBaker

exactly. you're forgetting how this relationship works. Nintendo (like all companies) wants to make gobs and gobs of money. They are making said gobs of money, however they aren't making it off of you at the moment. The "casuals" are making them that money so they are focusing on them. When (or if) that well dries up they will return. For your money (like businesses want).

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]Mario Galaxy 2 is fun, but not anywhere near as good as Mario 64! And there are much better platformers out there like Little Big Planet, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted IMO.

Metroid Other M was boring

Donkey Kong Country Returns looks fun, but it's long over due and there are too many better platformser out there in the market already like the ones I said above.

And lol at kirby! There has NEVER been a good kirby game, ever. I remember I bought one for my DS and I beat it in 30 minutes, no joke. You also couldn't die at ALL! Talk about desing flaws! Huge dissapointment IMO!

foxhound_fox



You know, I shouldn't bother with this, but it is just so priceless.

1) Your opinion doesn't matter. SMG2 is leaps and bounds better than any platformer this generation has seen.

And Uncharted, a platformer?
2) Did you even play it all the way through, or give up after 10 minutes because its a Nintendo game on the Wii?

3) DKCR is second only to SMG2 as a platformer.

4) If you don't like Kirby, then why do you even care? Its a good game for people that do.

Your opinion doesn't matter either, I think SMG2 is only decent compared to Mario 64 and it's not anywhere near as good as other platformers IMO. My opinion is valid to me, and alot of people agree with it. And Uncharted is a platformer in some ways, and it's very good at it too. I had WAY more fun with the first 5 minutes of Uncharted than I ever did with Mario Galaxy

Metroid was SO dull, my god I thought I was going to be put in a coma! And the controlls and graphics suck, big time! There are much better FPS games out there that look and play better like Killzone 2/3 or Halo Reach.

DKCR is your opinion, LBP puts it to shame so fast. LBP is WAY better IMO

And as for Kirby, why does he even exist in the first place? Kirby has never been good, and he sucks (both literally and figurtively) in super smash bros. No one ever plays as him because they know they would lose lol. No point to the charecter Kirby or the games, I don't understand why people like him. But it is thier right to do so and I don't want to take it away. Hell I don't like Kirby so much that when I go shooting I take a full poster of Kirby and put it up to the wall and use it for target practice! It's easy because he's so fat that I never miss plus I'm killing an annoying charecter.

Oh and I'm not a fanboy btw, don't know why you think that. I like all games and all systems have good ones, but I think PS3 isthe best system and has the better games, that's just my opnion though.

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Metroid was SO dull, my god I thought I was going to be put in a coma! And the controlls and graphics suck, big time! There are much better FPS games out there that look and play better like Killzone 2/3 or Halo Reach.

ShadowMoses900

You are talking about Metroid: Other M, right?

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#31 Shinobishyguy
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Where have I seen this thread before?

"BAWWW NINTENDO HAS ABANDONED THEIR FANS"

*someone brings a long list of quality games they made for the wii and DS*

"THOSE DON'T COUNT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THEM"

and the cycle continues

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#32 dotWithShoes
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Whereas I confess myself heavily disappointed with the Wii, and the 3DS launch, you're just spewing nonsense. First, why would anyone sell their 3DS? Keep it, it's getting TONS of great games in like a month now. Secondly, that would also be the reason why anyone would buy the 3DS over the Vita- because of the GAMES. Technology itself is only a tool, after all. Next, your assertion that Nintendo dumped the core gaming audience. Let's examine this carefully, shall we? On the Wii, Nintendo made The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Kirby's Dreamland, Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Metroid: Other M, Xenoblade Chronicles, Sin and Punishment: Star Successor, Super Paper Mario, Excitebots, ExciteTruck, The Last Story and Pandora's Tower. Considering, by the way, that all of those games are 'core, complex games, and that two of them are in fact the highest rated games this generation (and in the top three rated games of all time), that argument already goes flying out the window, BUT... On the DS, they have an even longer crazy ass list. Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Professor Layton, Pokemon, Golden Sun, Hotel Dusk, it just goes on and on. So I'd say that Nintendo, while taking a dump on its fans more than ever before, STILL cares for its fans. Oh, and you want a powerful HD system from Nintendo with a free online service and a non motion centered control scheme? Look no further than the Wii U.

All very logical points you make there.. He'll ignore them all, like he does every time he decides to bash Nintendo. I'm just pleasantly surprised he acknowledged that DKC exists in this thread,
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#33 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Metroid was SO dull, my god I thought I was going to be put in a coma! And the controlls and graphics suck, big time! There are much better FPS games out there that look and play better like Killzone 2/3 or Halo Reach.

charizard1605

You are talking about Metroid: Other M, right?

Yes of course, I love the orgional Metroid and the one on Snes. Other M is SO bad IMO, I feel like I wasted money and time when I bought it. Like I said Nintendo doesn't care....

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#34 peterw007
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

No company cares about its fans...just sometimes what makes them money benefits the fans.

stizz-

exactly. you're forgetting how this relationship works. Nintendo (like all companies) wants to make gobs and gobs of money. They are making said gobs of money, however they aren't making it off of you at the moment. The "casuals" are making them that money so they are focusing on them. When (or if) that well dries up they will return. For your money (like businesses want).

You do realize that there are developers out there who actually make games...because they love making games?

Not everybody who works at Nintendo is a money-oriented corporatist.

A lot of top Nintendo designers, (Miyamoto, Shigesato Itoi to name a few) actually think of making games as a hobby, not an obligation.

Satoru Iwata (the CEO of Nintendo) is the executive producer on almost all Nintendo-made games in the last few years... not just another guy in a suit.

Can't say the same thing about Kotick or Riccitello.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Metroid was SO dull, my god I thought I was going to be put in a coma! And the controlls and graphics suck, big time! There are much better FPS games out there that look and play better like Killzone 2/3 or Halo Reach.

ShadowMoses900

You are talking about Metroid: Other M, right?

Yes of course, I love the orgional Metroid and the one on Snes. Other M is SO bad IMO, I feel like I wasted money and time when I bought it. Like I said Nintendo doesn't care....

You DO know, I hope, that Other M is not an FPS? I mean, since you've played it, I'd expect you to know as much.
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#36 OreoMilkshake
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Hell I don't like Kirby so much that when I go shooting I take a full poster of Kirby and put it up to the wall and use it for target practice! It's easy because he's so fat that I never miss plus I'm killing an annoying charecter.ShadowMoses900
Nothing to see in this thread anymore, folks.

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#37 nintendoboy16
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Where have I seen this thread before?

"BAWWW NINTENDO HAS ABANDONED THEIR FANS"

*someone brings a long list of quality games they made for the wii and DS*

"THOSE DON'T COUNT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THEM"

and the cycle continues

Shinobishyguy
TVTropes has a few articles about that...
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#38 Joedgabe
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I'm a nintendo Consumer and as one of the almost satified one I must say the only thing i'm mad at nintendo is the lack of games and bad controllers for the wii... Nobody seems to want to take a risk making experimental games anymore because too much money is invested into making the games Graphics...

Now I speak for most of us that like nintendo games when I say we don't care about having PC/PS3/xBox360 graphics....

I like it's colorful graphics a lot more.. you wanna see high powered graphics look out your window. It won't get any better than that. I for once hope if they do improve graphics to just keep it as colorful as it always have or just improve on Cell Shading graphics.. but not to follow the rest.

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#39 Elann2008
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I would think that Nintendo would be the last to "listen" to their fans. They really set themselves around a business model where they decide the fate of everything. I've never see them openly come out and listen to fan feedback. They probably think all their fans are a bunch of kids or morons, or both. They're the only developer I know that really does their own thing and not acknowledge their fanbase in terms of communication.
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#40 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You are talking about Metroid: Other M, right?

charizard1605

Yes of course, I love the orgional Metroid and the one on Snes. Other M is SO bad IMO, I feel like I wasted money and time when I bought it. Like I said Nintendo doesn't care....

You DO know, I hope, that Other M is not an FPS? I mean, since you've played it, I'd expect you to know as much.

There are some parts that are in First Person, but you still shoot stupid aliens. So it's not really a first person shooter, but it does have some elements ot it, which isn't surprising because there is no way the Wii could handle a real FPS game.

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I think SMG2 is only decent compared to Mario 64 and it's not anywhere near as good as other platformers IMO. ShadowMoses900
An opinion grants you the ability to say whatever you want. But that doesn't make what you say true.
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#42 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

You know, I shouldn't bother with this, but it is just so priceless.

1) Your opinion doesn't matter. SMG2 is leaps and bounds better than any platformer this generation has seen.

And Uncharted, a platformer?
2) Did you even play it all the way through, or give up after 10 minutes because its a Nintendo game on the Wii?

3) DKCR is second only to SMG2 as a platformer.

4) If you don't like Kirby, then why do you even care? Its a good game for people that do.

ShadowMoses900

Your opinion doesn't matter either, I think SMG2 is only decent compared to Mario 64 and it's not anywhere near as good as other platformers IMO. My opinion is valid to me, and alot of people agree with it. And Uncharted is a platformer in some ways, and it's very good at it too. I had WAY more fun with the first 5 minutes of Uncharted than I ever did with Mario Galaxy

Metroid was SO dull, my god I thought I was going to be put in a coma! And the controlls and graphics suck, big time! There are much better FPS games out there that look and play better like Killzone 2/3 or Halo Reach.

DKCR is your opinion, LBP puts it to shame so fast. LBP is WAY better IMO

And as for Kirby, why does he even exist in the first place? Kirby has never been good, and he sucks (both literally and figurtively) in super smash bros. No one ever plays as him because they know they would lose lol. No point to the charecter Kirby or the games, I don't understand why people like him. But it is thier right to do so and I don't want to take it away. Hell I don't like Kirby so much that when I go shooting I take a full poster of Kirby and put it up to the wall and use it for target practice! It's easy because he's so fat that I never miss plus I'm killing an annoying charecter.

Oh and I'm not a fanboy btw, don't know why you think that. I like all games and all systems have good ones, but I think PS3isthe best system andhas the better games, that's just my opnion though.

Your opinion on SMG2 is valid. Your claim that Uncharted is a platformer is laughable. You do more shooting than actual platforming in that game, therefore it is a TPS with platforming elements.

I thought you were talking about Other M? Shows that you're just bashing now, and on the wrong game :lol:

At least he played the game and formed an opinion. You claimed you only saw the game, not played it.

Kirby exists because he has an audience and fanbase. Why else does anything exist? :roll: Anything else is pointless in that part of your post.

You might claim to not be a fanboy, but you're sure acting like one with your blind claims.

Edit: I love rainbow posting :D

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#43 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes of course, I love the orgional Metroid and the one on Snes. Other M is SO bad IMO, I feel like I wasted money and time when I bought it. Like I said Nintendo doesn't care....

ShadowMoses900

You DO know, I hope, that Other M is not an FPS? I mean, since you've played it, I'd expect you to know as much.

There are some parts that are in First Person, but you still shoot stupid aliens. So it's not really a first person shooter, but it does have some elements ot it, which isn't surprising because there is no way the Wii could handle a real FPS game.

No way the Wii can handle a REAL FPS? :lol: Tell me, what makes a "REAL FPS" to you? Because I recall there being Goldeneye Wii, Red Steel 2, Medal Of Honor Heroes 2, etc. :lol:
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes of course, I love the orgional Metroid and the one on Snes. Other M is SO bad IMO, I feel like I wasted money and time when I bought it. Like I said Nintendo doesn't care....

ShadowMoses900

You DO know, I hope, that Other M is not an FPS? I mean, since you've played it, I'd expect you to know as much.

There are some parts that are in First Person, but you still shoot stupid aliens. So it's not really a first person shooter, but it does have some elements ot it, which isn't surprising because there is no way the Wii could handle a real FPS game.

a) It has portions where you can switch to first person mode to scan the environment (I don't mean scan like the Prime games)
b) So, shooting aliens makes it a first person shooter comparable to Killzone and Halo? :lol:
c) Of course it could handle an FPS. Have you played Metroid Prime 3, for instance?
d) You have not played Metroid: Other M. In fact, I doubt you have played ANY Wii game except for maybe Brawl. I suspect you're just making things up to validate your irrational hate for Nintendo.

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#45 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]Hell I don't like Kirby so much that when I go shooting I take a full poster of Kirby and put it up to the wall and use it for target practice! It's easy because he's so fat that I never miss plus I'm killing an annoying charecter.OreoMilkshake

Nothing to see in this thread anymore, folks.

I shoot at other target posters too, like Hitler,Bin Laden,Castro, Helen Thomas, Karl Marx, and pickachu.

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#46 peterw007
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Your opinion doesn't matter either, I think SMG2 is only decent compared to Mario 64 and it's not anywhere near as good as other platformers IMO. My opinion is valid to me, and alot of people agree with it. And Uncharted is a platformer in some ways, and it's very good at it too. I had WAY more fun with the first 5 minutes of Uncharted than I ever did with Mario Galaxy

Metroid was SO dull, my god I thought I was going to be put in a coma! And the controlls and graphics suck, big time! There are much better FPS games out there that look and play better like Killzone 2/3 or Halo Reach.

DKCR is your opinion, LBP puts it to shame so fast. LBP is WAY better IMO

And as for Kirby, why does he even exist in the first place? Kirby has never been good, and he sucks (both literally and figurtively) in super smash bros. No one ever plays as him because they know they would lose lol. No point to the charecter Kirby or the games, I don't understand why people like him. But it is thier right to do so and I don't want to take it away. Hell I don't like Kirby so much that when I go shooting I take a full poster of Kirby and put it up to the wall and use it for target practice! It's easy because he's so fat that I never miss plus I'm killing an annoying charecter.

Oh and I'm not a fanboy btw, don't know why you think that. I like all games and all systems have good ones, but I think PS3isthe best system andhas the better games, that's just my opnion though.

ShadowMoses900

Your opinion on SMG2 is valid. Your claim that Uncharted is a platformer is laughable. You do more shooting than actual platforming in that game, therefore it is a TPS with platforming elements.

I thought you were talking about Other M? Shows that you're just bashing now, and on the wrong game :lol:

At least he played the game and formed an opinion. You claimed you only saw the game, not played it.

Kirby exists because he has an audience and fanbase. Why else does anything exist? :roll: Anything else is pointless in that part of your post.

You might claim to not be a fanboy, but you're sure acting like one with your blind claims.

Edit: I love rainbow posting :D

Hooray for rainbows!

This forum needs more rainbows to cleanse out the bitterness in gamers' hearts.

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#47 amaneuvering
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Nintendo does care about it's fans, and the highest people at the company say so all the time, but it just seems that those very same people don't know anymore exactly what their fans really want, even though it's not really that complicated, so they keep disappointing.

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#48 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes of course, I love the orgional Metroid and the one on Snes. Other M is SO bad IMO, I feel like I wasted money and time when I bought it. Like I said Nintendo doesn't care....

ShadowMoses900

You DO know, I hope, that Other M is not an FPS? I mean, since you've played it, I'd expect you to know as much.

There are some parts that are in First Person, but you still shoot stupid aliens. So it's not really a first person shooter, but it does have some elements ot it, which isn't surprising because there is no way the Wii could handle a real FPS game.

Golden eye, RedSteel 2 are 2 that i own on Wii. What you on about?!

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Your opinion doesn't matter either, I think SMG2 is only decent compared to Mario 64 and it's not anywhere near as good as other platformers IMO. My opinion is valid to me, and alot of people agree with it. And Uncharted is a platformer in some ways, and it's very good at it too. I had WAY more fun with the first 5 minutes of Uncharted than I ever did with Mario Galaxy

Metroid was SO dull, my god I thought I was going to be put in a coma! And the controlls and graphics suck, big time! There are much better FPS games out there that look and play better like Killzone 2/3 or Halo Reach.

DKCR is your opinion, LBP puts it to shame so fast. LBP is WAY better IMO

And as for Kirby, why does he even exist in the first place? Kirby has never been good, and he sucks (both literally and figurtively) in super smash bros. No one ever plays as him because they know they would lose lol. No point to the charecter Kirby or the games, I don't understand why people like him. But it is thier right to do so and I don't want to take it away. Hell I don't like Kirby so much that when I go shooting I take a full poster of Kirby and put it up to the wall and use it for target practice! It's easy because he's so fat that I never miss plus I'm killing an annoying charecter.

Oh and I'm not a fanboy btw, don't know why you think that. I like all games and all systems have good ones, but I think PS3 isthe best system and has the better games, that's just my opnion though.

ShadowMoses900

Kirby exists because people demand him.

FYI, Kirby was the second best character in SSB64 and is pretty decent in Brawl as well. His games mostly get As or AAs, so they arent terrible either.

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#50 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You DO know, I hope, that Other M is not an FPS? I mean, since you've played it, I'd expect you to know as much.charizard1605

There are some parts that are in First Person, but you still shoot stupid aliens. So it's not really a first person shooter, but it does have some elements ot it, which isn't surprising because there is no way the Wii could handle a real FPS game.

a) It has portions where you can switch to first person mode to scan the environment (I don't mean scan like the Prime games)
b) So, shooting aliens makes it a first person shooter comparable to Killzone and Halo? :lol:
c) Of course it could handle an FPS. Have you played Metroid Prime 3, for instance?
d) You have not played Metroid: Other M. In fact, I doubt you have played ANY Wii game except for maybe Brawl. I suspect you're just making things up to validate your irrational hate for Nintendo.

I have played Other M, I bought it when it came out for full price. I sold it the next day because it was SO boring! Just walk around jumping and shooting, that's it. I know Metroid Other M isn't in 1st person, but there are some parts like when your in the elevator. And the Wii has so bad graphics and controls that it could never be a good system for the REAL 1st person shooters. It also has no online mode either so that means it has no chance