Why don't PS3 multiplats sell well compared to 360?

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#1 Shinobi120
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Seriously. I'm trying to think here. Plus I know what you're going to say, "Well, the 360 has a larger installed base," etc., but I think that is one of the most lamest excuses that I've ever heard. Sure, they go out & buy lots of copies of 1st party exclusives like Uncharted 2 & Metal Gear Solid 4, & some multiplats like Street Fighter 4, & Batman: Arkham Asylum, but not other multiplats like Borderlands? Especially when compared to 360 versions?

Gee, I guess that having now what, 27 million PS3 owners isn't quite enough a large number for them to be buying a certain game. Feel free to let me know what you think.

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#2 killerfist
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I think one of the reasons is that Sony's marketing is craptastic. They need to advertise more/better.
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#3 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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Because you touch yourself at night:P

No, but seriously, some of the major titles have sold on par with their 360 counterparts. I really can't think of a reason why but it's probably one of the reasons the PS3 attach rate is the lowest of the 3.

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#4 treedoor
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Obviously because PS3 owners have more than one game to play even though 360 owners buy twice the amount of software.

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#5 Swift_Boss_A
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I am to assume you are looking at American sales? Yeah well in Ameirca there are twice as many 360's sold so the sales are usually twice as much, but in Japan and Europe PS3 versions sell better, well pretty much even in Europe I think.

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#6 diablo2602
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Obviously because PS3 owners have more than one game to play even though 360 owners buy twice the amount of software.

treedoor

seriously im still playing U2 and have demons souls waiting in line next. still havnt checked out infamous and i still need to get back to playing killzone 2. im so busy with the good exclusives that multiplats are kinda far down on the list... but i could see if i had a 360 right now and no ps3 id probably rush out to buy borderlands or brutal legend.

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#7 kaparsapar
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what new games does an average ps3 gamer, can choose from, within the last 30 days? now compared that with xbox gamers. you'll get your answer.

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#8 Shinobi120
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I am to assume you are looking at American sales? Yeah well in America there are twice as many 360's sold so the sales are usually twice as much, but in Japan and Europe PS3 versions sell better, well pretty much even in Europe I think.

Swift_Boss_A

Yeah, Europe too. Japan, I can understand.

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#9 Tauu
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XBL > PSN might be a reason.

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#10 mitu123
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XBL > PSN might be a reason.

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I enjoy using XBL a lot, though PSN is ok too.

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#11 Gxgear
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what new games does an average ps3 gamer, can choose from, within the last 30 days? now compared that with xbox gamers. you'll get your answer.

kaparsapar

Couldn't have answered it better myself.

Why does SW have to try and make sense of 1 lackluster selling of a multiplat title as some sort of failure from one console to another, while COMPLETELY IGNORING the fact that PS3 just had a blowout month in releases?

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#12 RAGINGxPONY
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what new games does an average ps3 gamer, can choose from, within the last 30 days? now compared that with xbox gamers. you'll get your answer.

kaparsapar

PS3 exclusives don't even sell nearly aswell as 360 exclusives... So there goes your arguement lol.

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#13 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="kaparsapar"]

what new games does an average ps3 gamer, can choose from, within the last 30 days? now compared that with xbox gamers. you'll get your answer.

RAGINGxPONY

PS3 exclusives don't even sell nearly aswell as 360 exclusives... So there goes your arguement lol.

They don't necessary have to reach Halo sale numbers to be good. Many of the PS3 exclusives end up selling well over a million copies, so your argument isn't that great either.

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#14 Nidget
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I am to assume you are looking at American sales? Yeah well in Ameirca there are twice as many 360's sold so the sales are usually twice as much, but in Japan and Europe PS3 versions sell better, well pretty much even in Europe I think.

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Hmm where do you get your Europe numbers? I know for the UK that 99% of multiplats sell much better on the 360
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#15 RAGINGxPONY
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[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

[QUOTE="kaparsapar"]

what new games does an average ps3 gamer, can choose from, within the last 30 days? now compared that with xbox gamers. you'll get your answer.

Gxgear

PS3 exclusives don't even sell nearly aswell as 360 exclusives... So there goes your arguement lol.

They don't necessary have to reach Halo sale numbers to be good. Many of the PS3 exclusives end up selling well over a million copies, so your argument isn't that great either.

I'm not arguing PS3 exclusives are great! My point is 360 sells more games whether it's an exclusive 360 game vs. exclusive PS3 game or a Multiplat.

Also i'm pretty sure anyone who is not a blinded fanboy would agree if MGS 4, Infamous, U2 (All PS3 exclusives)were exclusive to 360 they would have sold more than when exclusive to PS3

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#16 PearlOfHeaven
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Because some American gamers follow a mentality that if you're an american you should support american market.
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#17 Melkari
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I don't know about most, but I get multiplats on PC and exclusives on PS3. That's how I've always done it each gen. Unless it's something that I feel more comfortable playing on a console, like Street Fighter or Devil May Cry. At least three of my friends do the same thing. Can't speak for everyone else though.

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#18 DarkLink77
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Name a big selling exclusive on the 360 that isn't Halo, Gears, Fable, Mass Effect, or Forza. That's part of it.

Multiplatform games also generally run better on the 360.

The 360 has a significantly larger install base.

Maybe people who have 360s buy more games.

That said, certain genres sell better on the PS3. Look at Tekken 6's PS3 vs. 360 numbers.

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#19 Gxgear
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

PS3 exclusives don't even sell nearly aswell as 360 exclusives... So there goes your arguement lol.

RAGINGxPONY

They don't necessary have to reach Halo sale numbers to be good. Many of the PS3 exclusives end up selling well over a million copies, so your argument isn't that great either.

I'm not arguing PS3 exclusives are great! My point is 360 sells more games whether it's an exclusive 360 game vs. exclusive PS3 game or a Multiplat.

Also i'm pretty sure anyone who is not a blinded fanboy would agree if MGS 4, Infamous, U2 (All PS3 exclusives)were exclusive to 360 they would have sold more than when exclusive to PS3

There's no doubt that 360 can sell more games because its got a bigger install base than PS3, it'd be a shame if it didn't *looks at Batman: AA*

But if you took a closer look at PS3's October lineup you'd see he's got a point. 3 huge exclusives plus a couple more multiplats that were all more hyped than Borderlands.

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#20 wooooode
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Strong exclusives hurt multiplats on any system, when a stong exclusive comes out the multiplats sell better on the other system that does not have the exclusive.
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#21 bokiloki
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Because some American gamers follow a mentality that if you're an american you should support american market.PearlOfHeaven

not me. screw patriotism.

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#22 GrandJury
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Because some American gamers follow a mentality that if you're an american you should support american market.PearlOfHeaven
Hmmm. No, not with me. I support the console that gives me the most value and reliablity for my money. The PS3. As for why Multiplats sell better on the 360? Well it depends. Sometimes it could be because of the quality, sometimes(like in this case) it could be the fact that PS3 owners have tons of great exclusives to play or yes it could be because of the way XBL is better for alot of people.
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#23 Brainhunter
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Multiplatform owners generally pick the one with the superior gameplay experience, generally winding up to the 360's favour due to : 1) Better visuals. Most multiplatform games are optimized for the 360 hardware. 2) Superior Online Experience for multiplaform titles with online components. Yes, there are a lot more verbal griefers in the 360 community than in the PS3 community, but on the PS3, you'd be lucky to get "verbal activity" at all, otherwise you get crackling mics and incomprehensible garbles. 3) Bigger Install Base for 360, especially in N.A. This directly translates to sales. 4) Microsoft is much more aggressive with its marketing than Sony.
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#24 PearlOfHeaven
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[QUOTE="PearlOfHeaven"]Because some American gamers follow a mentality that if you're an american you should support american market.GrandJury
Hmmm. No, not with me. I support the console that gives me the most value and reliablity for my money. The PS3. As for why Multiplats sell better on the 360? Well it depends. Sometimes it could be because of the quality, sometimes(like in this case) it could be the fact that PS3 owners have tons of great exclusives to play or yes it could be because of the way XBL is better for alot of people.

lol..That's why I said some. I really don't think it have something to do with exclusive, both ps3 and 360 exclusive are evenly match this year.
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#25 kaparsapar
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

PS3 exclusives don't even sell nearly aswell as 360 exclusives... So there goes your arguement lol.

RAGINGxPONY

They don't necessary have to reach Halo sale numbers to be good. Many of the PS3 exclusives end up selling well over a million copies, so your argument isn't that great either.

I'm not arguing PS3 exclusives are great! My point is 360 sells more games whether it's an exclusive 360 game vs. exclusive PS3 game or a Multiplat.

Also i'm pretty sure anyone who is not a blinded fanboy would agree if MGS 4, Infamous, U2 (All PS3 exclusives)were exclusive to 360 they would have sold more than when exclusive to PS3

beside those three halo, gear, mw franchases. what other 360 games have huge numbers in sales?? 360 doesn't sell much more than its ps3 counterparts. and i'm pretty sure anyone who is not blinded would acknowledge that ps3 has more choices for great games than 360 this year.

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#26 Danm_999
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Plus I know what you're going to say, "Well, the 360 has a larger installed base," etc., but I think that is one of the most lamest excuses that I've ever heard. garland51
How is the 360 having more customers a lame excuse for why multiplat games sell better?

It's perfectly reasonable logic.

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#27 SaudiFury
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could another reason be the demographics?

360 could be overall a much younger fanbase then the PS3. Also on top of that the more economically restricted and more economically savvy gamer is gonna go with the 360. at least in those first 3 years.

Also with PS3 originally launching as the cheapest blu-ray. it could of been the Sony hardcore and Movie fans who occasionally like a game who went out and bought the machine.

hell effing Jack Thomson owns a PS3.

I doubt he's playing Uncharted 2....

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#28 ARKwhereiSTAY
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Multiplatform owners generally pick the one with the superior gameplay experience, generally winding up to the 360's favour due to : 1) Better visuals. Most multiplatform games are optimized for the 360 hardware. 2) Superior Online Experience for multiplaform titles with online components. Yes, there are a lot more verbal griefers in the 360 community than in the PS3 community, but on the PS3, you'd be lucky to get "verbal activity" at all, otherwise you get crackling mics and incomprehensible garbles. 3) Bigger Install Base for 360, especially in N.A. This directly translates to sales. 4) Microsoft is much more aggressive with its marketing than Sony.Brainhunter

You obviously haven't heard me on PSN. lol nah really i find that PSN is fine when i comes to online play and im noticing more mics being used

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#29 Shinobi120
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could another reason be the demographics?

360 could be overall a much younger fanbase then the PS3. Also on top of that the more economically restricted and more economically savvy gamer is gonna go with the 360. at least in those first 3 years.

Also with PS3 originally launching as the cheapest blu-ray. it could of been the Sony hardcore and Movie fans who occasionally like a game who went out and bought the machine.

hell effing Jack Thomson owns a PS3.

I doubt he's playing Uncharted 2....

SaudiFury

I also think that another reason why PS3 versions of games aren't selling well is because of Blu-Ray. That's probably why most of them only bought a PS3 for.

Some PS3 fanboys will think that it won't matter because 3rd party developers will still keep making games for it. But it's really going to matter to them because they're not making enough of that money back. They better start buying more games if they hope to sway developers/publishers to produce more software and put more effort into efficiently using the (more involved) hardware. I'm surprised that they haven't dropped support from them yet.

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#30 loudharley
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I have both ps3 and 360 but i buy all my multiplats on the 360 because i prefer lives service over psn,also i like the 360 controller better.Maybe alot of other people are doin the same.Also i have a huge list of friends to play with on live and i dont even think i have 4 on psn.

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#31 Merex760
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The false assumption that PSN still has lag and that multiplats look so much better on the 360 that the difference is night and day. Gotta love marketing!

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#32 Nero_Paladin
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Why don't PS3 multiplats sell well compared to 360?

I would have thought it was obvious.

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#33 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

I am to assume you are looking at American sales? Yeah well in Ameirca there are twice as many 360's sold so the sales are usually twice as much, but in Japan and Europe PS3 versions sell better, well pretty much even in Europe I think.

Nidget

Hmm where do you get your Europe numbers? I know for the UK that 99% of multiplats sell much better on the 360

I know this will surprise you, but UK =/= Europe.

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#34 BloodSeeker1337
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Because Multiplatform games are better on the 360 Version. PS3 is only good at their Exclusives
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#35 SaudiFury
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Because Multiplatform games are better on the 360 Version. PS3 is only good at their ExclusivesBloodSeeker1337
saying it like that makes it sound like the multi-platform games are just God awful on the PS3. Lost Planet was an early port from 360 to PS3 and was pretty bad. but Lost Planet 2 demo all dobut is removed that it is gonna be a bad port. very very few games that are multiplatform are coming out bad. unless the developer is still relatively new to the platform IE Bethesda and Bioware, your gonna get a very very close equivalent or perhaps even a superior version to their competitor. I've played Batman, Lost Planet, Resident Evil, Dead Space, Bioshock and Fallout 3 and the only two games i thought were worse on PS3 were Lost Planet and Fallout 3, the rest were equal. unless your someone has some sort of fetish for graphics and can't stand the sight of some weird shadow or squiggle (that is hardly noticeable only if you are actively looking for it).
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

Seriously. I'm trying to think here. Plus I know what you're going to say, "Well, the 360 has a larger installed base," etc., but I think that is one of the most lamest excuses that I've ever heard. Sure, they go out & buy lots of copies of 1st party exclusives like Uncharted 2 & Metal Gear Solid 4, & some multiplats like Street Fighter 4, & Batman: Arkham Asylum, but not other multiplats like Borderlands? Especially when compared to 360 versions?

Gee, I guess that having now what, 27 million PS3 owners isn't quite enough a large number for them to be buying a certain game. Feel free to let me know what you think.

This use to be the case But I dont think so anymore? borderlands has just been a exception because ps3 come out with uncharted2 and demons souls, so we had 2 AAA games that we were already playing, while 360 just had forza at the time and well lots of people dont like race sims, specially on the 360 that is more known for FPS fans.
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Most shooters don't but games like Burnout, FIFA/PES, Street fighter 4, Resi 5, Tekken 6, etc all sell better on the PS3. Of course, we ignore those because they don't work in the 360's favour :o
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#38 2mrw
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I am to assume you are looking at American sales? Yeah well in Ameirca there are twice as many 360's sold so the sales are usually twice as much, but in Japan and Europe PS3 versions sell better, well pretty much even in Europe I think.

Swift_Boss_A
Bingo, this is the right answer. only shooters and few other genres sell better on x360,as awhole PS3 has a very wide edge in JPN, a decent edge in Europe and sadly it's way behind the x360 in NA, i can't wait till GOW3 owns x360 in NA and GT5 owns in Europe.
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Most shooters don't but games like Burnout, FIFA/PES, Street fighter 4, Resi 5, Tekken 6, etc all sell better on the PS3. Of course, we ignore those because they don't work in the 360's favour :oFloppy_Jim

I don't know if these games are a certain catergory that do not traditionally sell well on the Xbox360, but they seem more the exception then the rule.

They stand out because they buck the majority trend.

Let's not dance around the fact that

Xbox360 has a bigger user base

Multiplats generally look and perform better, albiet slight but it does add up.

DLC is substantial and often times first on the Xbox360 over the PS3

The Xbox360 is seen more as a games machine over the PS3 - Xbox360 still has a higher game attach ration(correct me if I'm wrong if that has changed)

Xboxlive is seen to be more popular as it just recently got into the Guiness records

all that does add up in The Xbox360's favour

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Most shooters don't but games like Burnout, FIFA/PES, Street fighter 4, Resi 5, Tekken 6, etc all sell better on the PS3. Of course, we ignore those because they don't work in the 360's favour :oAdmiralBison

I don't know if these games are a certain catergory that do not traditionally sell well on the Xbox360, but they seem more the exception then the rule.

They stand out because they buck the majority trend.

Let's not dance around the fact that

Xbox360 has a bigger user base

Multiplats generally look and perform better, albiet slight but it does add up.

DLC is substantial and often times first on the Xbox360 over the PS3

The Xbox360 is seen more as a games machine over the PS3 - Xbox360 still has a higher game attach ration(correct me if I'm wrong if that has changed)

Xboxlive is seen to be more popular as it just recently got into the Guiness records

all that does add up in The Xbox360's favour

Any type of game more popular in Europe/Japan than NA often does better on the PS3. I agree that's the main reason though. PS3's attach rate is 7.9, 360's is around 8.1, that's from a few months ago.

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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]Because Multiplatform games are better on the 360 Version. PS3 is only good at their ExclusivesSaudiFury
saying it like that makes it sound like the multi-platform games are just God awful on the PS3. Lost Planet was an early port from 360 to PS3 and was pretty bad. but Lost Planet 2 demo all dobut is removed that it is gonna be a bad port. very very few games that are multiplatform are coming out bad. unless the developer is still relatively new to the platform IE Bethesda and Bioware, your gonna get a very very close equivalent or perhaps even a superior version to their competitor. I've played Batman, Lost Planet, Resident Evil, Dead Space, Bioshock and Fallout 3 and the only two games i thought were worse on PS3 were Lost Planet and Fallout 3, the rest were equal. unless your someone has some sort of fetish for graphics and can't stand the sight of some weird shadow or squiggle (that is hardly noticeable only if you are actively looking for it).

Play at 1080p then you'll notice the difference
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#42 TintedEyes
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Larger installed base, sorry if you think that is a "lame excuse" but its the reason.
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#43 darthogre
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

Seriously. I'm trying to think here. Plus I know what you're going to say, "Well, the 360 has a larger installed base," etc., but I think that is one of the most lamest excuses that I've ever heard. Sure, they go out & buy lots of copies of 1st party exclusives like Uncharted 2 & Metal Gear Solid 4, & some multiplats like Street Fighter 4, & Batman: Arkham Asylum, but not other multiplats like Borderlands? Especially when compared to 360 versions?

Gee, I guess that having now what, 27 million PS3 owners isn't quite enough a large number for them to be buying a certain game. Feel free to let me know what you think.

what are you talking about? The information I've seen lately multiplats WORLDWIDE sell about the same on both consoles even with X360's huge lead in the US. Sure, if all you look at is NPD you might draw the conclusion that multiplats don't sale on the PS3.......of course that is wrong.
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#44 Ondoval
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There's some exceptions lately: Devil May Cry 4, Soul Calibur IV, Tekken 6. But the larger base of the Xbox 360 in NA gives advantage to 360 multis. Plus, until a year ago most of multis were bad ported to PS3.

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#45 Bread_or_Decide
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Multiplats sell fine on the PS3.
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#46 ChrisJ2004
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I think one of the reasons is that Sony's marketing is craptastic. They need to advertise more/better. killerfist

... If they know about the 360 version then they know about the PS3 version ...

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#47 Nidget
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[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

I am to assume you are looking at American sales? Yeah well in Ameirca there are twice as many 360's sold so the sales are usually twice as much, but in Japan and Europe PS3 versions sell better, well pretty much even in Europe I think.

SolidTy

Hmm where do you get your Europe numbers? I know for the UK that 99% of multiplats sell much better on the 360

I know this will surprise you, but UK =/= Europe.

I dont remember saying it was:| Its a part of Europe, and the way he posted made it seem like the PS3 and 360 are even pretty much everywhere in Europe, which isn't the case.
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#48 double_heist
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Don't they sell equally worldwide (and sometimes, a bit higher in the PS3)?
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#49 masterpinky2000
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That's not the only problem - PS3 exclusives don't sell well either when compared to 360 ones. Gears 1 and 2 both broke 5M copies sold, and when Gears 1 was released there were maybe 10M 360's sold. It had a tiny install base but still moved something like 3M copies in the first month. Compare that to Uncharted 2 -- an amazing game, best I've played this generation. But it may not get to 3M sold in a month, and it looks like its lifetime sales will probably come in below the 5M mark. It may just be that the PS3 user base is extremely diverse while the 360 one is more united. 360 has fewer great franchises, so a huge part of its user base is Halo fans and shooter fans who'll pick up Gears. On the other hand, the PS3 has its God of War guys, its FF guys, its GT guys, MGS guys, etc. etc. They may have no interest in playing Uncharted 2 when they got the PS3 for Final Fantasy, for instance.
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#50 Doolz2024
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I think one of the reasons is that Sony's marketing is craptastic. They need to advertise more/better. killerfist
:| They have been advertising a lot lately.