Why GTA IV WILL HURT PS3 MORE THAN IT HELPS

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#1 shadow8585
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Kid walks into the store, "ZOMG TEH GRAM TEFT AUDO!!! I'LL BE TEH COOL!!! And look at all those PS3 over there on the shelves, under all that dust!!! I gawta get one mawm!!!!! C'mon!!! Hey, whats all that commotion over der!! *Walks over to Xbox 360 section and pushes his way through the hordes of gamers*. WHOA, TEH HEY-LOW TREE!!! HEY-LOWS COOL, BUT SHOOTIN UP INNOCENTS IN STOLEN CAWP CARS IS EVEN COOLER. *Hears customer ask for GTA IV for Xbox 360*. WUT?!? TEH GTA IV IS ON TEH X-BAWCKS TREE CITY!?!?!? *RUNS BACK TO VACANT PS3 SECTION, PUTS PS3 BACK ON SHELF, COVERS IT BACK UP WITH DUST AND GRABS THE RECENTLY PRICE-DROPPED, SMALL CHIPSET XBOX 360.

With the hype that will follow GTA IV in the months before its release, even casuals will know that its coming out for Xbox 360 too, so there goes the "people will associateGTA with P.S. and buy PS3's theory. Halo 3 will just have been released and people who haven't upgraded to a next-gen console yet will be strongly looking at the Xbox 360. The small chipset SHOULD be out by then (supposed to be out this summer sometime) and a price drop would not surprise anyone. Arguably the biggest PS2 game for casuals (and A LOT of PS2 owners were casuals, so buying an Xbox 360 over a PS3 would not phase them one bit) appearing on the cheaper, just as technologically good system with much better games will help Xbox more than Playstation. This will be the "deciding factor" for a lot of people IMO

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#2 fuzzysquash
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turn off your caps :|
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#3 Tiefster
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No one cares and if anyone in here actually picked up 360 or PS3 just for GTA4 they need to leave. As gamers or fanboys we all need to stop bickering over sales and bicker over things that matter like hardware capabilities, games, and how different games on each system help and/or hurt the gaming industry.

I know I didn't pick my DS thinking "zomg I have to buy this thing, its goin to be a megahit!" and I didn't buy my Xbox thinking "oh golly I sure as hell hope this thing sells more than PS2!". Sales are important for the amount of games a console gets, not the overall quality of the games it gets or its worth.
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Having the UN-GIMPED version fo GTA IVis going to hurt the ps3?L O freakin' L :D
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Having the UN-GIMPED version fo GTA IVis going to hurt the ps3?L O freakin' L :Djigglebilly1983
Both versions are going to be exactly the same.

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#7 hamstergeddon
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I almost understood the parts in caps, but I think I get what he's saying
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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]Having the UN-GIMPED version fo GTA IVis going to hurt the ps3?L O freakin' L :Dblack_awpN1

Both versions are going to be exactly the same.

not accordingto rock star. they themselves admitted that not having a garaunteed HDD is going to affect the way they develop the 360 version. that means load times during gameplay FTL. they cant be certain they canstream data to the cache, so have fun sitting thru sputtery loads through-out the city.

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#9 aliasfreak
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turn off your caps :|fuzzysquash

And get rid of that first paragraph. It really destroys your post.

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#10 lawlessx
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did you really need to use caps to make your point?
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#11 Twisted_Hawk
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You do realize it's against store policy to sell GTA to younger children, right?
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More like..."I don't have a 360 or PS3 but I want GTAIV...what? 360 is $200 dollars les...wow, it helps my bills!"
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Crystal ballin'
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Well, if people want a ps3 (which we know from C|NET that they do, they just can't justify buying one), then why would they buy a 360 for GTA. If they want a ps3, GTA will push them to finally buy one. This is where the whole "PlayStation brand" thing comes in. It doesn't matter that the 360 is cheaper if you want a ps3 and GTA.

Brand loyalty is present in may situations. I tend to favor GMC cars and GE fridges. Why? I dunno, i'm just used to them, and i'm willing to pay for them. Why did Sony Bravias sell so well last holiday season despite being as much as $1000 more than the competition? Brand.

Hell, i saw a guy in GameStop the other day thinking about buying a ps3 for MLB 07 The Show and a bunch of sports multiplats. He was willing to spend an extra $200 for just one exclusive. Thus is the power of the PlayStation brand.

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GTA4 for PS3 will be much smoother than the 360 version, when PS3 gets the superior GT4 we will see Lemmings jump off a cliff!! i cannot wait !!
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Better on the 360 for me. PS3 doesn't move very smooth
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]Having the UN-GIMPED version fo GTA IVis going to hurt the ps3?L O freakin' L :Djigglebilly1983

Both versions are going to be exactly the same.

not accordingto rock star. they themselves admitted that not having a garaunteed HDD is going to affect the way they develop the 360 version. that means load times during gameplay FTL. they cant be certain they canstream data to the cache, so have fun sitting thru sputtery loads through-out the city.

They also said they were having equal problems with the PS3.Your facts are flawed.

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Crystal ballin'Armored_cell

his logic makes perfect sense.  A kid see's a PS3 commercial for GTA4, so he asks his mommy to go with him to get a PS3 and GTA4.  But he see's a 360 with GTA4 for $200 less, so he gets that instead.     
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People who buy a console for GTa will look at the two and buy the one that's two hundred dollars cheaper.
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#20 Armored_cell
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Joke thread? ok I laugh lamalamalama
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#21 DuDisNow
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And then the $200 dollars is saved and 50 bucks later he buys a Wii.;)
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[QUOTE="Armored_cell"]Crystal ballin'hamstergeddon

his logic makes perfect sense. A kid see's a PS3 commercial for GTA4, so he asks his mommy to go with him to get a PS3 and GTA4. But he see's a 360 with GTA4 for $200 less, so he gets that instead.

Do you really think that a kid cares about the amount of money his parents spend? No

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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]Having the UN-GIMPED version fo GTA IVis going to hurt the ps3?L O freakin' L :Dblack_awpN1

Both versions are going to be exactly the same.

not accordingto rock star. they themselves admitted that not having a garaunteed HDD is going to affect the way they develop the 360 version. that means load times during gameplay FTL. they cant be certain they canstream data to the cache, so have fun sitting thru sputtery loads through-out the city.

They also said they were having equal problems with the PS3.Your facts are flawed.

Please point out were i said they werent?

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GTAIV is a traitor to the PS3 is sounds like
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Kid walks into the store, "ZOMG TEH GRAM TEFT AUDO!!! I'LL BE TEH COOL!!! And look at all those PS3 over there on the shelves, under all that dust!!! I gawta get one mawm!!!!! C'mon!!! Hey, whats all that commotion over der!! *Walks over to Xbox 360 section and pushes his way through the hordes of gamers*. WHOA, TEH HEY-LOW TREE!!! HEY-LOWS COOL, BUT SHOOTIN UP INNOCENTS IN STOLEN CAWP CARS IS EVEN COOLER. *Hears customer ask for GTA IV for Xbox 360*. WUT?!? TEH GTA IV IS ON TEH X-BAWCKS TREE CITY!?!?!? *RUNS BACK TO VACANT PS3 SECTION, PUTS PS3 BACK ON SHELF, COVERS IT BACK UP WITH DUST AND GRABS THE RECENTLY PRICE-DROPPED, SMALL CHIPSET XBOX 360.shadow8585
True story.
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#26 BackFlip101
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GTA IV will run better on PS3. Standard HDD and BluRay FTW.

Oh, and this is my 500th post.

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I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
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I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
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Missing the point FTW. :roll:
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i tried to read most of it.. but i couldnt.
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#30 LINKloco
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="Armored_cell"]Crystal ballin'asdasd


his logic makes perfect sense. A kid see's a PS3 commercial for GTA4, so he asks his mommy to go with him to get a PS3 and GTA4. But he see's a 360 with GTA4 for $200 less, so he gets that instead.

Do you really think that a kid cares about the amount of money his parents spend? No

No, but their parents do. Therefore PS3 version FTL.
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[QUOTE="peacebringer"]I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
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Missing the point FTW. :roll:

haha no he's Missing the point that kids don't control parents, parents control what they buy for there kids. If he had made a smart post about an adult doing what he said he would be correct but no parents gonna buy that game for there Kids let alone the whole system. Expecially a kid that sound like the one he's talking about.

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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]Having the UN-GIMPED version fo GTA IVis going to hurt the ps3?L O freakin' L :Djigglebilly1983

Both versions are going to be exactly the same.

not accordingto rock star. they themselves admitted that not having a garaunteed HDD is going to affect the way they develop the 360 version. that means load times during gameplay FTL. they cant be certain they canstream data to the cache, so have fun sitting thru sputtery loads through-out the city.

They also said they were having equal problems with the PS3.Your facts are flawed.

Please point out were i said they werent?

You were making it sound like the 360 development problems were far greater than the PS3s. That the 360s would mess the GTA 360 up more than the PS3s development problems would mess up the PS3 GTA.
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I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
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Yeah, cuz Johnny's parents hope to mold him into a serial killer from taking pointers from Manhunt 2 and not some lowlife street thug in a GTA game. They have high hopes for the kid. Wii FTW. :roll:
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#34 peacebringer
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[QUOTE="asdasd"]

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="Armored_cell"]Crystal ballin'LINKloco


his logic makes perfect sense. A kid see's a PS3 commercial for GTA4, so he asks his mommy to go with him to get a PS3 and GTA4. But he see's a 360 with GTA4 for $200 less, so he gets that instead.

Do you really think that a kid cares about the amount of money his parents spend? No

No, but their parents do. Therefore PS3 version FTL.

Yeah so many parents wanna buy there Kids GTA4. yeah nice wholesome family that is. I know Thuggs won't even buy there Kids GTA. Or let them play it. i knew this guy and he was always fighting outside his hosue with dealers and what not one day i went over his house and he's play GTA and he got up for a drink the Kid quickly grabber the controller and he said no stop and sent the Kids to his room. i thought it was hyporcritical and i said. you don't let him play GTA? he says hell nah i don't want him to be messed up like me.
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[QUOTE="peacebringer"]I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
LINKloco
Yeah, cuz Johnny's parents hope to mold him into a serial killer from taking pointers from Manhunt 2 and not some lowlife street thug in a GTA game. They have high hopes for the kid. Wii FTW. :roll:

hmmm Wii 249, 360 399,PS3 600 for that differance i will use that excuse to a Kid just to buy the cheaper console. don't you know parents they lie all the time. They can use the Violence as an excuse for buying a Wii. Then you tell lil johnny those games are bad and for older people the kid stops crying cause he understand the parents looking out and he gets a Wii instead of a PS3.
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People are going to be surprised at how well PS3 will sell with GTAIV.

Being multiplat isn't as big as some of you seem to think, but I suppose nobody can be sure so we'll just have to wait and see.

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[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
peacebringer
Yeah, cuz Johnny's parents hope to mold him into a serial killer from taking pointers from Manhunt 2 and not some lowlife street thug in a GTA game. They have high hopes for the kid. Wii FTW. :roll:

hmmm Wii 249, 360 399,PS3 600 for that differance i will use that excuse to a Kid just to buy the cheaper console. don't you know parents they lie all the time. They can use the Violence as an excuse for buying a Wii. Then you tell lil johnny those games are bad and for older people the kid stops crying cause he understand the parents looking out and he gets a Wii instead of a PS3.

You seem to be missing the point...in both of my statements.
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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]Having the UN-GIMPED version fo GTA IVis going to hurt the ps3?L O freakin' L :Dblack_awpN1

Both versions are going to be exactly the same.

not accordingto rock star. they themselves admitted that not having a garaunteed HDD is going to affect the way they develop the 360 version. that means load times during gameplay FTL. they cant be certain they canstream data to the cache, so have fun sitting thru sputtery loads through-out the city.

They also said they were having equal problems with the PS3.Your facts are flawed.

Please point out were i said they werent?

You were making it sound like the 360 development problems were far greater than the PS3s. That the 360s would mess the GTA 360 up more than the PS3s development problems would mess up the PS3 GTA.

Well yeah, thats what rockstar themselves were implying. theres a distinct difference in being hard to develop for and having to dumb a game down becasue the Consoles manufacturer decided not to make a very helpful, near essential peice of hardware standard.

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#39 peacebringer
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The TC Logic has failed because parents buy there "Kids" Nintendo DS's and Nintendo Wii's proofs in the NPD numbers 360 and PS3 are for older people who pay for there own stuff. Call me when kids udner 14 work and pay for there own games(and allowence does not count kids) A Kid couldn't outspend me in a Year unless his parents are super loaded and give him free spending money but we all know thats a Small fraction of America most of americas Kids don't even have a new system and won't until a pricedrop.
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is the ps3 version being released sooner?
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quality > quantity
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[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
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Yeah, cuz Johnny's parents hope to mold him into a serial killer from taking pointers from Manhunt 2 and not some lowlife street thug in a GTA game. They have high hopes for the kid. Wii FTW. :roll:

hmmm Wii 249, 360 399,PS3 600 for that differance i will use that excuse to a Kid just to buy the cheaper console. don't you know parents they lie all the time. They can use the Violence as an excuse for buying a Wii. Then you tell lil johnny those games are bad and for older people the kid stops crying cause he understand the parents looking out and he gets a Wii instead of a PS3.

You seem to be missing the point...in both of my statements.

No your Missing the point. Even if games don't create Evil people you just tell your kid that so you don't have to pay the ludacris ammount of Money for 1 kid when the kid has a Future to work on. Like College? I never saw parents so stupid to buy there kids a PS3 when they can make him happy with a DS for 129. you just don't know how a parent thinks. kids can't lie to there Parents but parents can lie to there Kids all they want.

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GTA4 for PS3 will be much smoother than the 360 version, when PS3 gets the superior GT4 we will see Lemmings jump off a cliff!! i cannot wait !!WalterPaladines

let me think what engine is gta4 using the rage engine. what games use that engine. table tennis and that game runs real smooth. the point of this devs already worked with 360 and knows its strenghs and weaknesses and its their first time working with the ps3. alsowhich version did they use with the trailer and the demos thats right little cow the 360 version stop being a fanboy thank you.

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#44 hamstergeddon
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="Armored_cell"]Crystal ballin'asdasd


his logic makes perfect sense. A kid see's a PS3 commercial for GTA4, so he asks his mommy to go with him to get a PS3 and GTA4. But he see's a 360 with GTA4 for $200 less, so he gets that instead.

Do you really think that a kid cares about the amount of money his parents spend? No


his parents do.  They, of course, are ignorant about technology etc. and so will buy the cheapest they can 
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#45 Prid3r
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turn off your caps :|fuzzysquash

Bu...But it's broken :(

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#46 LINKloco
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]I don't think parents are gonna buy theres kids a system for an M rated game. If anything the kid may want a 360 or PS3 to play GTA but his parents are gonna buy him a Wii cause it's new for Kids and they can use that as an excuse to not buy the more expencive system "no johnny those games are M rated your to young(Muwahahaha now i can buy lil jimmy a DS and get my kids off my back and not spend so much money)"
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Yeah, cuz Johnny's parents hope to mold him into a serial killer from taking pointers from Manhunt 2 and not some lowlife street thug in a GTA game. They have high hopes for the kid. Wii FTW. :roll:

hmmm Wii 249, 360 399,PS3 600 for that differance i will use that excuse to a Kid just to buy the cheaper console. don't you know parents they lie all the time. They can use the Violence as an excuse for buying a Wii. Then you tell lil johnny those games are bad and for older people the kid stops crying cause he understand the parents looking out and he gets a Wii instead of a PS3.

You seem to be missing the point...in both of my statements.

No your Missing the point. Even if games don't create Evil people you just tell your kid that so you don't have to pay the ludacris ammount of Money for 1 kid when the kid has a Future to work on. Like College? I never saw parents so stupid to buy there kids a PS3 when they can make him happy with a DS for 129. you just don't know how a parent thinks. kids can't lie to there Parents but parents can lie to there Kids all they want.

Again you miss the point. It's obvious to everyone parents will go for the cheaper system(those whom are not wealthy). I was showing you the irony of your first point. You stated that they would say the games were too violent, so I countered that by saying there is going to be even sicker games on the Wii, like MH2. See the irony, yes?
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are all of you just thinking stupid today how could gta 4 ruin the ps3
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#48 DuDisNow
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When people don't want to waste $200 dollars
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199$ core....... Halo 3 + GTA4............ ***** Christ... Kaz Get here quick!! :o
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#50 DuDisNow
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Yeah. The PS3 is doomed!