Why Halo is the most hated/liked FPS ever

What annoys me when reading about halo is people seem to blindly follow the game while others straight out bash it but both are over looked. The fan boys hype the game no end and take no criticism and the haters probably haven't played it but still get around to saying its a mediocre fps.

I played Halo1 when I landed on Xbox I didn't own an Xbox I wasn't that impressed sure it looked great had great physics and the co-op single player was a blast but multiplayer was sub-par because I could only manage 4 player with all the vehicles and size of maps this screamed for 8 or 16 player but i just didn't know enough Xbox owners so i stopped playing.

Hardcore fans praise halo1 for its balance and speed it fits into the hardcore competitive FPS players category such as counter strike, quake and unreal it's a twitch shooter with cars. For me with out the internet it was just another console golden eye potential but I couldn't realise it.

Queue halo2 it landed no intension of getting it none what so ever but when I finally got to play a copy of my friends realised it was online and allowed guests i bought it and still to this day play it and I haven't bothered with the single player once. Single player to me is the same old same old but Halo2 while not as balanced a bit too newbie friendly with its auto aim changed FPS gaming on consoles. It was and still is the only true multiplayer game on consoles worth playing it changed console multiplayer like golden eye did back in the 90s. What was better? Nothing everything else was sub par even gears of war can't play ranked games together difficult to set up games with friends. Take rainbow6 play one round doesn't switch the teams doesn't keep the score of more than one round cant play ranked games with friends its all crap.

So enter halo 3. If this plays like halo1 has more features than halo 2 for multiplayer and includes 4 player co-op (now single player is worth playing again) this could live up to the hype it might take another 3 years from my life.

So sure its newbie friendly some people don't like the art style the single player tends to suck after a while it doesn't nothing particularly new and graphics aren't the uber l33t but for a multiplayer console FPS nothing comes close and it doesn't look like anything will for a long time.

So please go easy on Halo it may not be the best sure but it set the bench mark for console games online I wish other developers would start using that as a basis for their games!

/rant

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

norfair_dweller

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

beldugo

for the xbox yes.

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

beldugo

How am I hating? I didn't say it wasa bad game. I said it was very enjoyable, or did you miss that? I simply said it wasn't the best first-person shooter out there. Am I hating because I have a different opinion than you?

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

norfair_dweller

How am I hating? I didn't say it wasa bad game. I said it was very enjoyable, or did you miss that? I simply said it wasn't the best first-person shooter out there. Am I hating because I have a different opinion than you?

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

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Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

bobby_king

A supersoldier fighting against a horde of aliens intent on invading earth is an original concept? Supersoldiers and aliens are two of the three biggest cliches in videogames. The third is World War II. How is Halo original in storyline?

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

bobby_king

How am I hating? I didn't say it wasa bad game. I said it was very enjoyable, or did you miss that? I simply said it wasn't the best first-person shooter out there. Am I hating because I have a different opinion than you?

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

nothing wrong with halo. it's all base in opinion whether you like a game or not but when it comes down to analysing it theirs nothing wrong with Halo. i'll buy part 3 to finish the fight enough talk.

dude master chief is like bruce willies in Die Hard.he is that bad assOldParr

Not really. John McClane had a personality. No offense to Bungie or Halo, but Master Chief is really just there. He doesn't exactly have a personality.

It's a good console FPS. Of course, the console FPS bar is set rather low.Oleg_Huzwog

'Mmkay, y'all, let's discuss the Halo frenzy with absolute seriousness, for reals.

Let's just forget this thread was ever created.

hating.. you a hater.

nothing wrong with halo. it's all base in opinion whether you like a game or not but when it comes down to analysing it theirs nothing wrong with Halo. i'll buy part 3 to finish the fight enough talk.

beldugo

Actually, I just named several things that were wrong with Halo in my original post. The other one I didn't mention was weapon imbalance in the first game. And if there was nothing wrong with Halo, all the games would have received a 10 from every reviewer on the face of the earth.

It is very well liked because it is a very fun game that combined and executed very interesting, different elements of FPS's.

It is very hated because the fans of the game consider it the best FPS and claim it is innovative meanwhile the only thing it really did better than any other FPS with the same features is the execution of it.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]It's a good console FPS. Of course, the console FPS bar is set rather low.beldugo

What? There's plenty of great FPS on the PC, that are as good or even better then halo.

I must admit that halo 3 looks good.

[QUOTE="OldParr"]dude master chief is like bruce willies in Die Hard.he is that bad assnorfair_dweller

Not really. John McClane had a personality. No offense to Bungie or Halo, but Master Chief is really just there. He doesn't exactly have a personality.

he does have a personality...dont tell me gordon freeman does cause that would be silly

[QUOTE="OldParr"]dude master chief is like bruce willies in Die Hard.he is that bad assnorfair_dweller

Not really. John McClane had a personality. No offense to Bungie or Halo, but Master Chief is really just there. He doesn't exactly have a personality.

he said " you cook up a story and you throw us in the meat grinder" and thats it basically.

Terminator 1

"i'll be back"

Terminator 2

"i'm a cybernetic organism sent from the future"

only a few lines and you can find out what type of personality they have.

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

[QUOTE="OldParr"]dude master chief is like bruce willies in Die Hard.he is that bad assbeldugo

Not really. John McClane had a personality. No offense to Bungie or Halo, but Master Chief is really just there. He doesn't exactly have a personality.

he said " you cook up a story and you throw us in the meat grinder" and thats it basically.

Terminator 1

"i'll be back"

Terminator 2

"i'm a cybernetic organism sent from the future"

only a few lines and you can find out what type of personality they have.

That's still is just your opinion.

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]It's a good console FPS. Of course, the console FPS bar is set rather low.Bebi_vegeta

What? There's plenty of great FPS on the PC, that are as good or even better then halo.

I must admit that halo 3 looks good.

[QUOTE="bobby_king"]

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

norfair_dweller

A supersoldier fighting against a horde of aliens intent on invading earth is an original concept?

Wrong.

By your definition, Half-Life is an ubercliched game.

[QUOTE="bobby_king"]

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

norfair_dweller

A supersoldier fighting against a horde of aliens intent on invading earth is an original concept? Supersoldiers and aliens are two of the three biggest cliches in videogames. The third is World War II. How is Halo original in storyline?

Sorry, but the thing you just said is a part of the presentation and the design. The storyline on the other hand...

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

[QUOTE="OldParr"]dude master chief is like bruce willies in Die Hard.he is that bad assBebi_vegeta

Not really. John McClane had a personality. No offense to Bungie or Halo, but Master Chief is really just there. He doesn't exactly have a personality.

he said " you cook up a story and you throw us in the meat grinder" and thats it basically.

Terminator 1

"i'll be back"

Terminator 2

"i'm a cybernetic organism sent from the future"

only a few lines and you can find out what type of personality they have.

That's still is just your opinion.

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

[QUOTE="OldParr"]dude master chief is like bruce willies in Die Hard.he is that bad assbeldugo

Not really. John McClane had a personality. No offense to Bungie or Halo, but Master Chief is really just there. He doesn't exactly have a personality.

he said " you cook up a story and you throw us in the meat grinder" and thats it basically.

Terminator 1

"i'll be back"

Terminator 2

"i'm a cybernetic organism sent from the future"

only a few lines and you can find out what type of personality they have.

He's a stereotypical action hero. That's not much of a personality.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]It's a good console FPS. Of course, the console FPS bar is set rather low.beldugo

What? There's plenty of great FPS on the PC, that are as good or even better then halo.

I must admit that halo 3 looks good.

Anyway once again, it's all about opinion.

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"][QUOTE="bobby_king"]

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

sonicmj1

A supersoldier fighting against a horde of aliens intent on invading earth is an original concept?

Wrong.

By your definition, Half-Life is an ubercliched game.

What more is there to the story of Halo that he's fighting aliens on a ringworld that needs to be destroyed?

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

[QUOTE="OldParr"]dude master chief is like bruce willies in Die Hard.he is that bad assnorfair_dweller

Not really. John McClane had a personality. No offense to Bungie or Halo, but Master Chief is really just there. He doesn't exactly have a personality.

he said " you cook up a story and you throw us in the meat grinder" and thats it basically.

Terminator 1

"i'll be back"

Terminator 2

"i'm a cybernetic organism sent from the future"

only a few lines and you can find out what type of personality they have.

He's a stereotypical action hero. That's not much of a personality.

a soldier known by his enemy as the demon,able to encounter an entire fleet,the amount of confidence that he has to acomplish an objective is like no other,a hero recognize by phrases like " i need a weapon" and "finshing this fight" and now the universe relys on his skills son that i wont be destroy=BAD ASS

just like officcer Mcclane

Didn't read what you said but its because it's the best, thats why it's been hated.beldugo

Agreed. People love to hate great things, particularly if they can't afford to enjoy these things.

[QUOTE="bobby_king"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

beldugo

How am I hating? I didn't say it wasa bad game. I said it was very enjoyable, or did you miss that? I simply said it wasn't the best first-person shooter out there. Am I hating because I have a different opinion than you?

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

nothing wrong with halo. it's all base in opinion whether you like a game or not but when it comes down to analysing it theirs nothing wrong with Halo. i'll buy part 3 to finish the fight enough talk.

Why are you talking like a gangster over the internet? Areyou 13 years old and just got told 50 cent was cool or something? Finish the fight? Okay there buddy, it's just a game, don't get all intense into it.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"][QUOTE="bobby_king"]

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

norfair_dweller

A supersoldier fighting against a horde of aliens intent on invading earth is an original concept?

Wrong.

By your definition, Half-Life is an ubercliched game.

What more is there to the story of Halo that he's fighting aliens on a ringworld that needs to be destroyed?

The first game? On its surface? Not much more. Kind of like how the story of Half-Life is "Kill the aliens that have invaded Earth from an alternate dimension." If you want to simplify it that much, that's what it's about. There's a ton of background information to add to that, though.

But the aliens in Halo aren't intent on invading Earth. Not even during Halo 2.

I stopped reading after you said Halo 1 had good physics. It didn't have any physics.Ninja-Vox

BTW.. today is defend halo day, why you ask? because, i notice how many people bash halo because of graphics, multiplayer and all.. now that bungie is prooving all of them wrong, they want to find something else thats bad about it. just give it up.. Halo is the best fps out rightnow.

what are we talking about? halo.

what got a few threads going? halo.

what delevopers talk when they make a fps? halo killer.

the only halo killer is halo itself. after part 3 if halo retires and halo 3 is good it will retire as champion.

The first game? On its surface? Not much more. Kind of like how the story of Half-Life is "Kill the aliens that have invaded Earth from an alternate dimension." If you want to simplify it that much, that's what it's about. There's a ton of background information to add to that, though.

But the aliens in Halo aren't intent on invading Earth. Not even during Halo 2.

sonicmj1

Even unsimplified, I don't really see anything special.

[spoiler] Master Chief arrives on Halo, gathers survivors, rescues the captain, and try to discover Halo's purpose. They learn that another, parasitic alien race has been released by one alien race. Master Chief is tricked into almost activating Halo, which would destroy all life in the galaxy. They find keys, make the Pillar of Autumn blow up, and this takes Halo with it. [/spoiler]

I don't really see anything so great about the storyline, or anything that's really original.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]The first game? On its surface? Not much more. Kind of like how the story of Half-Life is "Kill the aliens that have invaded Earth from an alternate dimension." If you want to simplify it that much, that's what it's about. There's a ton of background information to add to that, though.

But the aliens in Halo aren't intent on invading Earth. Not even during Halo 2.

norfair_dweller

Even unsimplified, I don't really see anything special.

I don't really see anything so great about the storyline, or anything that's really original.

but the way u go through it is interesting and crazy just like the die hard movies simple but bad ass

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="bobby_king"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Halo is a perfectly decent FPS, but it's not the best one out there. I've always hated the slow pace of Halo in multiplayer and I don't really like the uber-cliched storyline. That said, the controls work great and it's a very enjoyable game, just not the best.

TheManOfChoice

How am I hating? I didn't say it wasa bad game. I said it was very enjoyable, or did you miss that? I simply said it wasn't the best first-person shooter out there. Am I hating because I have a different opinion than you?

Uber-cliched? It's the Bible set in the future, how many games does that?

nothing wrong with halo. it's all base in opinion whether you like a game or not but when it comes down to analysing it theirs nothing wrong with Halo. i'll buy part 3 to finish the fight enough talk.

Why are you talking like a gangster over the internet? Are in 13 years old and just got told 50 cent was cool or something? Finish the fight? Okay there buddy, it's just a game, don't get all intense into it.

it's just a game like you said and i want to finish the fight from part 2. what's wrong with the comment?

Nearly every time I look at the profile and posting history of someone who is bashing the Halo franchise, 99% of they are a fanboy of another console. To me that is an obvious sign of jelousy, and I don't see why anybody should take them seriously.

Look at what the Halo franchise has achieved...nobody can deny any of it. Both games were AAA here at Gamespot. And if you come at me with the "gamerankings" excuse, you'll notice Gamespot was only .1 over for the original Halo, and .1 under for Halo 2. That's pretty damn accurate if you ask me.

Last year Halo 2 was up to over 500 million games played over xboxlive...easily the most popular online console game EVER until Gears of War recently took it over. 5 billion hours spent playing this game, with 5 million unique players.

Halo 2 also set the record for most preorders with over 1.5 million copies, a record that was EASILY broken by Halo 3 with over 4 million preorders. And as far as I know, Halo 2 tops any other game at over 125 million made on it's first day.

This kind of stuff doesn't happen for a "bad" game.

What more is there to the story of Halo that he's fighting aliens on a ringworld that needs to be destroyed?

norfair_dweller

This is where i doubt you've even played Halo. :|

What more is there to the story? Are you serious? There was no invasion of earth until the end of halo 2. The storyline until that point was that you are John (spartan 117 - the master chief) who is believed to be the last surviving Spartan, though there is something to suggest there may be other survivors. You're fighting against a coalition of alien species united under one fanatic religion called the Covenant. They worship an extinct race which used to occupy the galaxy known as the Forerunners. Whereas humans see these as a hugely advanced race long dead, the covenant worship them as gods. All covenant technology is immitative of forerunner tech, and their thirst to uncover anything left behind by their gods is what drives them to war - "your destruction is the will of the gods."

One of these artifacts is Halo. One of seven rings constructed by the forerunners. They are artificial planets designed to contain a virus called the flood which infects any sentient life form and spreads with alarming speed. The purpose of the rings is to lock up this virus, and should it escape, any one of the rings can be activated to wipe out all life in the galaxy, removing all potential hosts and rendering the virus harmless. The humans have learned this, but the covenant believe the rings are religious artifacts which when activated will begin "the great journey" - their core religious belief.

So while the war continues, the covenant wipe out one planet at a time. First full-scale invasion, then determining whether there are any forerunner artifacts to be recovered before full withdrawal and "glassing" of the planet. Bombardment from orbit until the surface is all but glass.

This has happened to every human colony despite their best efforts to stop it. Their main goal has been preventing the discovery of earth; even to the point of self destructing ships if captured by the covenant.

With Halo 2, the covenant discover earth, however by accident. A small force arrives, looking for an artifact called "the ark" which they believed was in this location. To their surprise, they discover earth. This results in a full-scale attack on earth, while master chief is still trying to prevent the covenant foolishly activating another halo ring.

In doing this, he encounters and kills a covenant prophet; the ultimate in the covenant hierarchy. The death is a huge blow to the covenant, which results in the elites being removed as guardians of the prophets, replaced with the Brutes. As this happens, the brutes turn on the elites and begin killing large numbers of them. The prophets are aware that this is happening but do nothing to stop it. The elites feel betrayed, and at the end of halo 2 elite capital ships open fire on brutes. A civil war errupts within the covenant while the invasion of earth begins on the other side of the galaxy.

The arbiter, an elite who is the tool of the prophets, is first to accept the idea that Halo is not what the prophets think it is. He turns his back on the covenant and joins the humans in their efforts to stop the covenant activating a ring...

So basically, halo 3 opens with the invasion of earth as master chief and arbiter join forces to find the arc before the covenant do. We dont know yet, but there are theories that the arc is the one location which is not affected by the halo rings.... and if it's on earth - is it possible that humans are forerunners?

But yeah y'know what you said... super soldier vs aliens and that's it. And no, none of that is from the books. :roll:

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

What more is there to the story of Halo that he's fighting aliens on a ringworld that needs to be destroyed?

Ninja-Vox

This is where i doubt you've even played Halo. :|

But yeah y'know what you said... super soldier vs aliens and that's it. And no, none of that is from the books. :roll:

First, you might want to put that all in a spoiler. And then you might want to read my post at the top of the page where I described Halo 1.

[QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

What more is there to the story of Halo that he's fighting aliens on a ringworld that needs to be destroyed?

Ninja-Vox

This is where i doubt you've even played Halo. :|

But yeah y'know what you said... super soldier vs aliens and that's it. And no, none of that is from the books. :roll:

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]I stopped reading after you said Halo 1 had good physics. It didn't have any physics.beldugo

BTW.. today is defend halo day, why you ask? because, i notice how many people bash halo because of graphics, multiplayer and all.. now that bungie is prooving all of them wrong, they want to find something else thats bad about it. just give it up.. Halo is the best fps out rightnow.

what are we talking about? halo.

what got a few threads going? halo.

what delevopers talk when they make a fps? halo killer.

the only halo killer is halo itself. after part 3 if halo retires and halo 3 is good it will retire as champion.

No, you dont understand. Halo didn't have ANY physics. COD2 didn't either. No physics at all. Remember the big purple covenant weapons caches? What happened if you put a grenade next to one? Or meleed it? Nothing. There were no physics. There were in Halo 2, where vehicles would explode into different parts and you could move them all around by walking into them or throwing a grenade, but halo didn't have that. There were no physics.