Why have survival horror games become more action-based?

1) Why would anybody want to do puzzles in a survival horror game? Kill a bunch of zombies then do a jigsaw puzzle to open the next door? LAME...

2) I hate the aspect of low ammunition for survival horror games. This is why I did not enjoy the first Resident Evil game on PS1. If you DO give me low ammunition, then at least give me some good melee attacks to compensate. In RE1, Jill Valentile looks like she's about to fall over every time she swings the knife, and her attacks are so slow its impossible to get by the game using knife attacks.

3) Action is what makes the game fun anyways. At least in my opinion.PandaBear86

because you're trying to survive using what little resources you got, that's why it's called survival horror, not TPS

maybe because devs are running out of horror ideas lately??
THQ88

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]1) Why would anybody want to do puzzles in a survival horror game? Kill a bunch of zombies then do a jigsaw puzzle to open the next door? LAME...

2) I hate the aspect of low ammunition for survival horror games. This is why I did not enjoy the first Resident Evil game on PS1. If you DO give me low ammunition, then at least give me some good melee attacks to compensate. In RE1, Jill Valentile looks like she's about to fall over every time she swings the knife, and her attacks are so slow its impossible to get by the game using knife attacks.

3) Action is what makes the game fun anyways. At least in my opinion.st1ka

because you're trying to survive using what little resources you got, that's why it's called survival horror, not TPS

[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]1) Why would anybody want to do puzzles in a survival horror game? Kill a bunch of zombies then do a jigsaw puzzle to open the next door? LAME...

2) I hate the aspect of low ammunition for survival horror games. This is why I did not enjoy the first Resident Evil game on PS1. If you DO give me low ammunition, then at least give me some good melee attacks to compensate. In RE1, Jill Valentile looks like she's about to fall over every time she swings the knife, and her attacks are so slow its impossible to get by the game using knife attacks.

3) Action is what makes the game fun anyways. At least in my opinion.PandaBear86

because you're trying to survive using what little resources you got, that's why it's called survival horror, not TPS

personally i really like it when your resources are low it means you really have to think trough, i just wish they adapted the survival horror genre to more games, like fear effect for example it's pretty much a surival horror game, except that it focus' more on the adventure part when compared to games like resident evil

i think it's just more accessible to a larger market when you compare RE4 controls and RE1,2,3 controls...

Larger fanbase = Bigger sales

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

because you're trying to survive using what little resources you got, that's why it's called survival horror, not TPS

st1ka

personally i really like it when your resources are low it means you really have to think trough, i just wish they adapted the survival horror genre to more games, like fear effect for example it's pretty much a surival horror game, except that it focus' more on the adventure part when compared to games like resident evil

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i seriously doubt that.

*looks at your sig*

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"] I can tolerate few resources, but cannot stand terrible melee attacks and dislike the fact that most developers are unable to create a survival horror game that high an extremely high difficulty as a result of this low ammunition. RE1 was HARD for me, maybe I just suck at that genre but I believe most people had problems trying to finish it due to lack of resources, terrible melee attacks, and high difficulty. I have no idea how people consider this to be fun.joopyme

personally i really like it when your resources are low it means you really have to think trough, i just wish they adapted the survival horror genre to more games, like fear effect for example it's pretty much a surival horror game, except that it focus' more on the adventure part when compared to games like resident evil

^bold^

i seriously doubt that.

*looks at your sig*

trust me, it does, it has puzzles every 10 minutes, you have adventure game like sections (meaning you have to talk to people, use item A or person B so you can get item C wich goes on item D to open door F, etc.)

[QUOTE="THQ88"]maybe because devs are running out of horror ideas lately??
st1ka

I wish we could have another Dino Crisis man or something similar to Resident Evil 3: Nemesis.

[QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

personally i really like it when your resources are low it means you really have to think trough, i just wish they adapted the survival horror genre to more games, like fear effect for example it's pretty much a surival horror game, except that it focus' more on the adventure part when compared to games like resident evil

st1ka

^bold^

i seriously doubt that.

*looks at your sig*

trust me, it does, it has puzzles every 10 minutes, you have adventure game like sections (meaning you have to talk to people, use item A or person B so you can get item C wich goes on item D to open door F, etc.)

if i was a noob, and i saw your sig for the first time, what would i see first?

HINT:

Babys like em too...:oops:

anyways, YEAH, i know about 2 of my friends who really appreciated the game.

haven't given it a try, unfortunately.

Because action based survival horror games >>> adventure based survival horror games.IronBass

LIES!!!! :cry:

I think Survival Horror games will eventually make a comeback. I don't know when, but it will.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Because action based survival horror games >>> adventure based survival horror games.FireEmblem_Man

LIES!!!! :cry:

I think Survival Horror games will eventually make a comeback. I don't know when, but it will.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Because action based survival horror games >>> adventure based survival horror games.FireEmblem_Man

LIES!!!! :cry:

I think Survival Horror games will eventually make a comeback. I don't know when, but it will.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Because action based survival horror games >>> adventure based survival horror games.Guyper

LIES!!!! :cry:

I think Survival Horror games will eventually make a comeback. I don't know when, but it will.

they are making a comeback (sorta)

I agree. Blame RE4 I guess, that was the game that started the shift in tone.

Silent-Hal

uh, silent hills been shifting more and more towards combat since the first game.

silent hill 2 had more combat than 1, 3 had alot more focus on combat then 2, and 4 was wrose than 3.

[QUOTE="Guyper"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

LIES!!!! :cry:

I think Survival Horror games will eventually make a comeback. I don't know when, but it will.

st1ka

they are making a comeback (sorta)

I want a horror game in 1st person, with the emphasize on puzzles and atmosphere rather than action. Oh and no guns please.TheFlush

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]I want a horror game in 1st person, with the emphasize on puzzles and atmosphere rather than action. Oh and no guns please.st1ka

Yep, this.

Or maybe he meant games like 7th Guest which has no action at all but just plain puzzles and atmosphere?

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Guyper"] If that's true, then beat 'em up, shoot 'em up, 2d platform and PC adventure game genres which were all popular in the early and mid 90's would have comeback a long time ago. The genre is dying, better start to get used to it, I did.Guyper

they are making a comeback (sorta)

Professor Layton is a great Adventure title, and it sold very well.

Music, films and cartoons have went the same direction. Faster, more agressive, bang bang boom. Probably has to do with society or education or so.KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]I want a horror game in 1st person, with the emphasize on puzzles and atmosphere rather than action. Oh and no guns please.st1ka

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="TheFlush"]I want a horror game in 1st person, with the emphasize on puzzles and atmosphere rather than action. Oh and no guns please.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="THQ88"]maybe because devs are running out of horror ideas lately??
THQ88

I wish we could have another Dino Crisis man or something similar to Resident Evil 3: Nemesis.

because gamers keep buying crap games that focus primarily on pretty graphics & action. i call it the american cinema, or hollywood syndrome.. because the same **** happened with movies as more and more people paid attention to crap movies with crap stories and big explosions / special effects.

it's called pop culture erosion. a dumbing down of media to meet the lowest common denominator. many people have written about it - it's interesting, and depressing stuff.

because gamers keep buying crap games that focus primarily on pretty graphics & action. i call it the american cinema, or hollywood syndrome.. because the same **** happened with movies as more and more people paid attention to crap movies with crap stories and big explosions / special effects.

it's called pop culture erosion. a dumbing down of media to meet the lowest common denominator. many people have written about it - it's interesting, and depressing stuff.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

because gamers keep buying crap games that focus primarily on pretty graphics & action. i call it the american cinema, or hollywood syndrome.. because the same **** happened with movies as more and more people paid attention to crap movies with crap stories and big explosions / special effects.

it's called pop culture erosion. a dumbing down of media to meet the lowest common denominator. many people have written about it - it's interesting, and depressing stuff.

Johnny-n-Roger

i think we're arguing the same side of the coin, but in a chicken / egg manner. did this happen because of the hollywood syndrome i mentioned, or has it happened because of a parallel syndrome in gaming media created by people supporting games that are action heavy and low on story / plot / innovation?

i don't personally think that immersive cinema experience & engaging / innovative gameplay / story are mutally exclusive. i think things are the way they are because developers follow the money, and the money seems to be in shooters that focus more on Rambo action as opposed to something a bit more sophisticated.

because gamers keep buying crap games that focus primarily on pretty graphics & action. i call it the american cinema, or hollywood syndrome.. because the same **** happened with movies as more and more people paid attention to crap movies with crap stories and big explosions / special effects.

it's called pop culture erosion. a dumbing down of media to meet the lowest common denominator. many people have written about it - it's interesting, and depressing stuff.

[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"]resident evil 5 is ACTION HORROR. it is not a pure action game, and the people who say it is are just as bad as the people who call it a survival horror game. CAPCOM changed the series to make it better and new, and there will STILL be normal survival horror games like siren: BC and fatal frame 4. this kind of discussion has to just die completely. it's been around for years like the effin pirates vs. ninjas. IT'S JUST GENRES PEOPLE!jonnyt61