[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Well that has more to do with your beliefs and unwillingness to see things in an open mind.Vandalvideo

Hmm...why does that seem so hypocritical coming from you...

your a real gamer vandal, like me ^^ thats why i like you, fanboyism is a thing that shall ruin gaming

The thing is many people can't afford to keep up with the ever-changing complexity of PC gaming ... daqua_99

MISCONCEPTION!*

PC gaming is not particularly complex, theres a primary software API (DirectX) and hardware levels which are easy enough to keep track of. Thats all you need, the correct DirectX version and powerful enough hardware. Most games are scalable so even some older graphics cards will run them, you don't need special adaptors, any sort of additional software packages (ones that aren't included that is) or specialized hardware although a physics card or audio card certainly help in some respects.

*MISCONCEPTION! is a copyright of VandalVideo Inc. all rights reserved.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Well that has more to do with your beliefs and unwillingness to see things in an open mind.Vandalvideo

Hmm...why does that seem so hypocritical coming from you...

[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]Oh man not THAT old. I'm not good with computers (tech mumbo jumbo and such) but I'm pretty sure that it's not in HD. It's like a really old Gateway CRT monitor. Kinda like this one here. Vandalvideo

like I said, I don't know any of that technical jargon. But I might have to check up to see what resolution I'm running (pretty sure its 640X480...going to check what my max resolution is as well). It sure doesn't look like HD to me because I have a plasma television in the living room and it looks loads better than what my computer monitor displays.

PC's are the only platform where you actually feel like you own the hardware. With consoles it's almost as if you are renting them from the companies. The companies control the fate of how useful your hardware is. Propreitary hardware and formats gives you no choice in the hardware you buy and the online system is completely up to the company. $50 a month for a P2P online system?! Friend codes? With the PC game developers can choose freely how they want to set up the online service for that game. Don't like the feel of keyboard and mouse for this game? Just buy a gamepad. This game is lagging? Just chuck in some more RAM. Customizability is something you take for granted until you try a console.Metroid_Time

amen

PC's are the only platform where you actually feel like you own the hardware. With consoles it's almost as if you are renting them from the company's. The company's control the fate of how useful your ahrdsware is. Propreitary hardware gives you no choice in the hardware you buy and the online system is completely up to the company. $50 a month for a P2P online system?! Friend codes? With the PC game developers can choose freely how they want to set up the online service for that game. Don't like the feel of keyboard and mouse for this game? Just buy a gamepad. This game is lagging? Just chuck in some more RAM. Customizability is something you take for granted until you try a console.Metroid_Time

[QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

Sorry, I can't explain it any better than that. I just don't see my PC as a gaming machine. maybe it's the uncomfortable chair, or maybe it's the small non-HD screen, but I just don't like gaming on the PC.

shadow_hosi

Oh my god. I've said it plenty of time but non-HD monitor? Go back in time and tell that to me ten years ago when I was playing Quake 2 in "HD"

aaah so foolish medvlad123, PCs have been in HD long before tvs (HL1 was in HD for example) wana know what 1280x1024 is? its an hd setting(i think 1080?? not sure)

haha. My post DOES sound as if I was speaking out of assumptions and old misconceptions, but in fact, I am talking out of my own personal experience. I really do have uncomfortable chairs and small non-HD screens. (still waiting on that non HD verdict..after a while of arguing with that other dude I'm going to have to see if my monitor can actually run in HD).

PS: it's "Madvlad123" :P

agree. If you are okay with having to check if your PC can run a game, and okay with maybe not being able to buy all 3 consoles because of cost, you should have the best experience in my opinion. wemhim

[QUOTE="daqua_99"]The thing is many people can't afford to keep up with the ever-changing complexity of PC gaming ... Runningflame570

MISCONCEPTION!*

PC gaming is not particularly complex, theres a primary software API (DirectX) and hardware levels which are easy enough to keep track of. Thats all you need, the correct DirectX version and powerful enough hardware. Most games are scalable so even some older graphics cards will run them, you don't need special adaptors, any sort of additional software packages (ones that aren't included that is) or specialized hardware although a physics card or audio card certainly help in some respects.

*MISCONCEPTION! is a copyright of VandalVideo Inc. all rights reserved.

man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

[QUOTE="wemhim"] agree. If you are okay with having to check if your PC can run a game, and okay with maybe not being able to buy all 3 consoles because of cost, you should have the best experience in my opinion. Vandalvideo

100-200 is only slightly more? As per my calculations that is 25-50% of the 360 price. That's more than "a little" more expensive for an "equivelant experience". Although I will say, it is nice to see you finally admit that pc IS going to be more expensive, no matter the amount.

[QUOTE="wemhim"] agree. If you are okay with having to check if your PC can run a game, and okay with maybe not being able to buy all 3 consoles because of cost, you should have the best experience in my opinion. Vandalvideo

man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wemhim"] agree. If you are okay with having to check if your PC can run a game, and okay with maybe not being able to buy all 3 consoles because of cost, you should have the best experience in my opinion. whoisryanmack

100-200 is only slightly more? As per my calculations that is 25-50% of the 360 price. That's more than "a little" more expensive for an "equivelant experience". Although I will say, it is nice to see you finally admit that pc IS going to be more expensive, no matter the amount.

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?Vandalvideo

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

and this is precisely where democracy fails.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?Vandalvideo

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

Wow dude, get with the times...

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32707/98/

http://au.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/spore/news.html?sid=6165172

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4551&Itemid=2

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wemhim"] agree. If you are okay with having to check if your PC can run a game, and okay with maybe not being able to buy all 3 consoles because of cost, you should have the best experience in my opinion. Vandalvideo

100-200 is only slightly more? As per my calculations that is 25-50% of the 360 price. That's more than "a little" more expensive for an "equivelant experience". Although I will say, it is nice to see you finally admit that pc IS going to be more expensive, no matter the amount.

This feels like reaching to me, but I can let it go. MMM...actually I can't. This is going to fall under your own argument of "uprgrading a pc is done under your own volition". Likewise, buying games will be done under your own volition. You could in theory, buy 0 games, thus making the console cheaper. You could also find alternative sources for the games at a lesser price, but that argument is not as solid.

Beyond that, the pc is actually more expensive than the console, and that was the point I was most interested in.

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?wemhim

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

Yeah steam is becoming really huge and it's just so easy to buy games which are hard to find in stores over the net and cheap too.

This feels like reaching to me, but I can let it go. MMM...actually I can't. This is going to fall under your own argument of "uprgrading a pc is done under your own volition". Likewise, buying games will be done under your own volition. You could in theory, buy 0 games, thus making the console cheaper. You could also find alternative sources for the games at a lesser price, but that argument is not as solid. Beyond that, the pc is actually more expensive than the console, and that was the point I was most interested in. whoisryanmack

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?Metroid_Time

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

Yeah steam is becoming really huge and it's just so easy to buy games which are hard to find in stores over the net and cheap too.

Wow dude, get with the times...FlockofSpagheti

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

Ok dude, but spore, Hellgate, Cvilization andDead or alive arecomingto other consoles. crysis will prob come just like Far cry back in the day, huh? lol

Wow dude, get with the times...

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32707/98/

http://au.gamespot.com/ds/strategy/spore/news.html?sid=6165172

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4551&Itemid=2

I think he meant PC games, not console spin-offs that just use the name, but are completely diffrent games. (like console Civilization and SPORE will be). Hellgate is still only rumored and Crysis? If it comes like Far Cry then it again won't even be the same game.

man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

Nope, I don't know :D PC gaming has tons of great upcoming games and most of them are exclusive :)

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]This feels like reaching to me, but I can let it go. MMM...actually I can't. This is going to fall under your own argument of "uprgrading a pc is done under your own volition". Likewise, buying games will be done under your own volition. You could in theory, buy 0 games, thus making the console cheaper. You could also find alternative sources for the games at a lesser price, but that argument is not as solid. Beyond that, the pc is actually more expensive than the console, and that was the point I was most interested in. Vandalvideo

Probably so. The option to upgrade the PC into oblivion jades that perspective, most people would see it as the only way. Now I'm just asking you, I don't pc game or have many friends who do, how much would you say a "typical" gaming pc costs for the average pc gamer? Again, not making any points, just wondering.

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?AdrianWerner

Nope, I don't know :D PC gaming has tons of great upcoming games and most of them are exclusive :)

Dude I read your 2008 link and its not that great. nOt much stuff most peeps have ever heard of...

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?AdrianWerner

Nope, I don't know :D PC gaming has tons of great upcoming games and most of them are exclusive :)

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"] Wow dude, get with the times...Vandalvideo

Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolution is the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

Nope, I don't know :D PC gaming has tons of great upcoming games and most of them are exclusive :)

Dude I read your 2008 link and its not that great. nOt much stuff most peeps have ever heard of...

Just because casual console games like you haven't heard about those games doesn't change how high quality they will be. And sure, the list is a bit empty, but it will get bigger after E3 and GC and most of all even now it walks over 2008 line-up of any console

please support pc gaming, tis the best thing that ever happend to america!

mestizoman

Right on!

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?AdrianWerner

Nope, I don't know :D PC gaming has tons of great upcoming games and most of them are exclusive :)

Dude I read your 2008 link and its not that great. nOt much stuff most peeps have ever heard of...

Just because casual console games like you haven't heard about those games doesn't change how high quality they will be. And sure, the list is a bit empty, but it will get bigger after E3 and GC and most of all even now it walks over 2008 line-up of any console

dude... im not a game...

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"] Wow dude, get with the times...FlockofSpagheti

Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolution is the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."

He said the same thing about Simgolf and Railroads. But I think that Vandalvideo meant the "main" Civ will stay PC-only..ie Civ6 will be just for PC, while consoles get CivRev. And with Hellgate all you have are "maybies". So you're really just self owning yourself here :)

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]man, PC gaming ain't all that. not much new stuff comin' out the pipe, you know what i'm sayin lol?FlockofSpagheti

Nope, I don't know :D PC gaming has tons of great upcoming games and most of them are exclusive :)

Dude I read your 2008 link and its not that great. nOt much stuff most peeps have ever heard of...

Just because casual console games like you haven't heard about those games doesn't change how high quality they will be. And sure, the list is a bit empty, but it will get bigger after E3 and GC and most of all even now it walks over 2008 line-up of any console

dude... im not a game...

forgot the "r" :D

Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolution is the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."FlockofSpagheti

Trust me PC gaming > console gaming.

I haven't had this much fun gaming in months.

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolution is the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."Vandalvideo

spore going to DS, hellgate hinted at for 360 by that dude... new civ game that sid wants to make coming to consoles only, and a Pc one hasn't been announced...

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolution is the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."FlockofSpagheti

spore going to DS, hellgate hinted at for 360 by that dude... new civ game that sid wants to make coming to consoles only, and a Pc one hasn't been announced...

And? We still get exclusivity on SPORE and Hellgate, at least for now.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolution is the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."FlockofSpagheti

spore going to DS, hellgate hinted at for 360 by that dude... new civ game that sid wants to make coming to consoles only, and a Pc one hasn't been announced...

[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolutionis the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."AdrianWerner

spore going to DS, hellgate hinted at for 360 by that dude... new civ game that sid wants to make coming to consoles only, and a Pc one hasn't been announced...

And? We still get exclusivity on SPORE and Hellgate, at least for now.

Those are going to consoles. :lol: You hermits can have your PC's that you have to upgrade every month! :lol:

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolutionis the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."PS3_3DO

spore going to DS, hellgate hinted at for 360 by that dude... new civ game that sid wants to make coming to consoles only, and a Pc one hasn't been announced...

And? We still get exclusivity on SPORE and Hellgate, at least for now.

Those are going to consoles. :lol: You hermits can have your PC's that you have to upgrade every month! :lol:

bah... I upgrade to get games I want on PC, while with 360... every good game it has wll become multiplatform anyway, why bother with 360? Just so I can pay 30$ more for games that are inferior to PC versions? :D

Those are going to consoles. :lol: You hermits can have your PC's that you have to upgrade every month! :lol:

PS3_3DO

Do you even understand the concept of rational thought? Thats all I have to say.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolutionis the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."PS3_3DO

spore going to DS, hellgate hinted at for 360 by that dude... new civ game that sid wants to make coming to consoles only, and a Pc one hasn't been announced...

And? We still get exclusivity on SPORE and Hellgate, at least for now.

Those are going to consoles. :lol: You hermits can have your PC's that you have to upgrade every month! :lol:

Yeah, and you can keep your crapbox that crashes every month.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]Dint you see sid sayin' that thing?? "Civilization Revolutionis the game I've always wanted to make!"... sounds like this is the main game... and read th NExtGen article again man... "This year NamcoBandai has Hellgate: London, a PC RPG cum, shooter that it is co-publishing that with EA. Given the company's newfound penchant for cross-platform development, I ask if an Xbox 360 version is likely. Karlsson won't confirm it, but he admits that it's highly unlikely that such a notion is far from the company's planning calendar."AdrianWerner

spore going to DS, hellgate hinted at for 360 by that dude... new civ game that sid wants to make coming to consoles only, and a Pc one hasn't been announced...

And? We still get exclusivity on SPORE and Hellgate, at least for now.

Those are going to consoles. :lol: You hermits can have your PC's that you have to upgrade every month! :lol:

bah... I upgrade to get games I want on PC, while with 360... every good game it has wll become multiplatform anyway, why bother with 360? Just so I can pay 30$ more for games that are inferior to PC versions? :D

You mean like Lost Planet? :lol: GRAW 2 is better on 360 and so is R6V and Bioshock is going to be the same on the PC and360 bet on it.Oh and I meant to say you have to upgrade your PC'severy Six months. ;)