Why I guarantee LBP will be 2008 GOTY

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#1 WillieBeamish
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My top 5 reasons why LBP will be the sweeping 2008 GOTY. While I don't necessarily agree with the imminent decision because of the flawed logic that the industry will use, I do understand why it will happen. Much the same reason why I understand Barack Obama will be the next US President, due to similar flawed logic.

Reason 1: Its not a shooter

Despite the fact that shooters are some of the most fun, long lived games ever made, the fact that there are a kazillion of them out there makes it difficult for anything in the shooter genre to stand out. LBP stands out just from the very fact that its not a shooter, and it can barely even be considered a 3D game.

Reason 2: Its non-violent

Game reviewers love it when they can elevate a game that doesn't make them look like a bunch of psychotic blood-thirsty columbine deviants. It reflects good on the industry when it awards games which even Jack Thompson, God rest his soul, would approve of.

Reason 3: Buzzword of the year (User-generated-Content)

This game is basically a platformer construction kit. The mere idea that you can build levels of your wildest dreams is enough to get giddy over, EVEN IF every creation you make doesn't quite work out and your eventual frustration takes over. Doesn't matter, because in your mind SOMEONE with skill will eventually make something you may want to play. Essentially unlimited content, and who cares about the quality of content when its unlimited.. That by nature implies that there WILL be quality content.

Reason 4: Sackboy

Not since Nintendogs had such a videogame character tugged on your heartstrings. A Hollywood calibre drama movie script turned interactive videogame can't hold a candle to a virtual burlap sock puppet that you can customize (customize was last-year's buzzword)

Reason 5: Competition

As far as GOTY competition, if you eliminate all the shooters, you're left with Fable II, an RPG. RPG's are arguably next in line after shooters for being the most prolific game genre out there. The only thing that would give Fable II a fighting chance is if they replaced your companion dog with a sackboy. Something tells me this isnt going to happen.

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#2 ithilgore2006
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So by saying "it's not a shooter", you conveniently exclude MGS4 and GTA4? Those games got 10's, they are prime ontenders on GS. And you've got SSBB and (sadly, they unfortunately seem to like this sort of thing) Fallout 3 on top of Fable 2. And don't say "Fallout 3 is a shooter", it most certainly is just an FPS, but don't expect GS to think that, I'm sure they'll tout it an an RPG. So that's five other contenders. You can't gurantee anything.
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Maybe you should count your chickens before you put them in the truck
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#4 jaisimar_chelse
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ok wait.

when hermits say mods are the main reason to own a PC , consolites rebuttal by sayin there are excellent mods BUT gazillion crap mods. same thing is gonna happen to LBP - some excellent user generated content but a load of crap content also.

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So by saying "it's not a shooter", you conveniently exclude MGS4 and GTA4? Those games got 10's, they are prime ontenders on GS. And you've got SSBB and (sadly, they unfortunately seem to like this sort of thing) Fallout 3 on top of Fable 2. And don't say "Fallout 3 is a shooter", it most certainly is just an FPS, but don't expect GS to think that, I'm sure they'll tout it an an RPG. So that's five other contenders. You can't gurantee anything.ithilgore2006

Mark my words. LBP will be GOTY. GTAIV? There are so many GTA's they practically have their own genre. GTAIV was nothing spectacular. Saints Row did everything GTAIV did before it. The only thing SR didn't have was the pedigree.

MGS4? People don't even play that anymore. Its a 5 hour fix for MGS fans. It may have gotten a 10 at the time, its like a sugar rush after eating a bunch of candy bars.. a week, a month, etc after beating it you don't want to touch it again.

SSBB? Lol wut.

Fallout 3? Its Oblivion re-skinned.

And I already discussed Fable 2.

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#6 WillieBeamish
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ok wait.

when hermits say mods are the main reason to own a PC , consolites rebuttal by sayin there are excellent mods BUT gazillion crap mods. same thing is gonna happen to LBP - some excellent user generated content but a load of crap content also.

jaisimar_chelse

But this is a console. LBP will be to console mods what Halo 3 was to console shooters.

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#7 Riverwolf007
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I see LBP joining the ranks of great games that sell terribly.

Dear LBP, Say hi to Ico and SotC in the basement of sales data when you get there. Fiddy cent Bulletproof laughs at you for trying to achieve anything meangful in the game industry.

Love Riverwolf

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#8 WillieBeamish
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I see LBP joining the ranks of great games that sell terribly.

Dear LBP, Say hi to Ico and SotC in the basement of sales data when you get there. Fiddy cent Bulletproof laughs at you for trying to achieve anything meangful in the game industry.

Love Riverwolf

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Ico & SotC didn't have the hype that LBP does.

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#9 flazzle
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Sackboy's tug on heart strings? Maybe I have no heart...

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#10 bladeeagle
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

ok wait.

when hermits say mods are the main reason to own a PC , consolites rebuttal by sayin there are excellent mods BUT gazillion crap mods. same thing is gonna happen to LBP - some excellent user generated content but a load of crap content also.

WillieBeamish

But this is a console. LBP will be to console mods what Halo 3 was to console shooters.

LBP isn't a mod and won't create mods. It'll create levels and mini games for people. Mods are like changing an modern FPS to scifi, or zombies, or realism. These change the game completely.

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#11 bladeeagle
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Reason 5: Competition

As far as GOTY competition, if you eliminate all the shooters, you're left with Fable II, an RPG. RPG's are arguably next in line after shooters for being the most prolific game genre out there. The only thing that would give Fable II a fighting chance is if they replaced your companion dog with a sackboy. Something tells me this isnt going to happen.

WillieBeamish

What about Red alert 3? Looks pretty awesome to me.

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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]So by saying "it's not a shooter", you conveniently exclude MGS4 and GTA4? Those games got 10's, they are prime ontenders on GS. And you've got SSBB and (sadly, they unfortunately seem to like this sort of thing) Fallout 3 on top of Fable 2. And don't say "Fallout 3 is a shooter", it most certainly is just an FPS, but don't expect GS to think that, I'm sure they'll tout it an an RPG. So that's five other contenders. You can't gurantee anything.WillieBeamish

Mark my words. LBP will be GOTY. GTAIV? There are so many GTA's they practically have their own genre. GTAIV was nothing spectacular. Saints Row did everything GTAIV did before it. The only thing SR didn't have was the pedigree.

MGS4? People don't even play that anymore. Its a 5 hour fix for MGS fans. It may have gotten a 10 at the time, its like a sugar rush after eating a bunch of candy bars.. a week, a month, etc after beating it you don't want to touch it again.

SSBB? Lol wut.

Fallout 3? Its Oblivion re-skinned.

And I already discussed Fable 2.

Sorry, you saying "but i don't like it" doesn't discount games as GOTY contenders.

SSBB got 9.5, it's a contender.

Oblivion got 9.6 (undeserved but GS seem to love it nonetheless)

GS don't base their GOTY selection on what genre the games are, they base it on the games themselves, like any normal human would. After all, using your sort of logic, they gave a platformer GOTY last year, they won't do it again this year.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

I see LBP joining the ranks of great games that sell terribly.

Dear LBP, Say hi to Ico and SotC in the basement of sales data when you get there. Fiddy cent Bulletproof laughs at you for trying to achieve anything meangful in the game industry.

Love Riverwolf

WillieBeamish

Ico & SotC didn't have the hype that LBP does.

Hype or no hype it won't sell and once again trying to do something different will look bad to the bean counters who really control what gets produced.

Sorry for not really paying attn to what your topic is about and all but it just seems tyo me that our concerns are setting the bar low compared to the real fallout of yet another game that's trying to be somewhat innovative failing at retail.

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#14 wally2nv
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now i know why people say LPB is over hyped :?
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#15 wally2nv
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now i know why people say LBP is over hyped :?wally2nv
whoops misplaced the letters soz :x
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#16 NAPK1NS
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LittleBigPlanet has a whole lot more competition then what you mentioned. What about GTA4? MGS4? Fallout 3? These all have shooting elements but aren't true shooters.
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#17 Chutebox
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Does everyone here realize this is a major lemming?
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#18 Chaos_HL21
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People was saying the same about Spore, wait for LBP to get reviewed before naming it the GOTY.
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#19 lesner87
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TC you shouldnt make such topics on System wars because of the vast majority of fanboys over here.
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#20 -RPGamer-
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The bigger the hype the larger the fall. After watchng so many vids of this game I would have to say in terms of platforming it's just too slow and floaty in most cases to accomplish in tense platforming scenarios. It'll be much better at quirky mini-games imho like the tetris concept.
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#21 shadow_hosi
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i dunno, my moneys on strong bad's awesome game for cool people
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#22 Cloud_Insurance
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Does everyone here realize this is a major lemming?Chutebox

I've only been here a week or so and even I know that

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#23 xsubtownerx
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I'm sorry but after seeing many gameplay vids of this game, the only PS3 game that has a chance of winning GOTY would be MGS4.
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#24 Chutebox
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The bigger the hype the larger the fall. After watchng so many vids of this game I would have to say in terms of platforming it's just too slow and floaty in most cases to accomplish in tense platforming scenarios. It'll be much better at quirky mini-games imho like the tetris concept.-RPGamer-

Underlined is the point of this thread.

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#26 flazzle
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Little Big Planet is going to suck. It's just a bunch of dolls running aroundTheXboxgamer73

I wish they were running. They are more like floating through casual syrup

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#27 Spartan070
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Fable II will win, been calling since forever, 9.5 or higher, that's my call and I'm sticking to it.
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Although ideally, I would love to see it become game of the year, I have doubts it would happen.

You do have some good arguements, and yeah, they do make sense, and you back them up with logic which most people seem to not have these days.

However, I somewhat doubt it would get game of the year. Well, here at least. I have a feeling that it will recieve game of the year from at least one highly known game site.

But even then, I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and my lucky charms around, because I really love this game. :D.

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#29 rockguy92
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Does everyone here realize this is a major lemming?Chutebox

Me. I hope this is verbal irony.

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#30 67gt500
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I think that if people are able to make and share user-created content that is - let's use the word 'naughty' - then you'll have your 2008 GotY confirmed...
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Your trying to purposely set up cows for future ownage

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#32 TenP
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Does everyone here realize this is a major lemming?Chutebox

You beat me to the punch.

EVERYONE READ THIS POST!

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#33 WillieBeamish
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Does everyone here realize this is a major lemming?TenP

You beat me to the punch.

EVERYONE READ THIS POST!

First off, I'm not a lemming. I have a gaming PC, a Wii & a 360 (& used to own a PS3). We all know darn well LBP will win GOTY whether it deserves it or not based on the general public. It isn't a popularity contest. Its what the 'professional videogame journalists' think, and I clearly outlined their 5 point logic behind it.

Look at the movies & oscars, etc.. Best picture rarely goes to the best movie of the year. Because all the movies are looked at from a jaded critic's eye, not from a moviegoers eye.

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#34 WillieBeamish
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seems like everyone on here is misinterpreting what I am saying.

I am not saying LBP SHOULD be GOTY, I'm saying it WILL be GOTY. There's a difference. We all know its going to score preposterously high because it is a new and innovative game. Yes, its a very niche game with some serious image issues (its extremely kiddy looking), but its the innovation and fresh ideas that so-called game journalists give out the high marks for.

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#35 Dreams-Visions
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I think Little Big Planet has a better change at GoTY than Metal Gear Solid 4 does.

I still think GTA4 and Gears 2 will have the best shot.

LBP is in my finals, though.

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#36 MetroidPrimePwn
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Reason 1: Its not a shooter

Spore isn't a shooter...

Reason 2: Its non-violent

Spore isn't violent...

Reason 3: Buzzword of the year (User-generated-Content)

Spore has the whole user generated content thing going for it...

Reason 4: Sackboy

Spore creatures are adorable, and totally customizable.

WillieBeamish

See what I'm getting at, here?

You know, Any possible comparisons to other highly hyped games...

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Let's see. Today: September 27th 2008. LBP Release: October 21st 2008. GOTY Awards Thing: January 2009....WOW!
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#38 rocket9434
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We will see. But I do think it is in the top five.
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#39 SER69
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Let's see. Today: September 27th 2008. LBP Release: October 21st 2008. GOTY Awards Thing: January 2009....WOW! DeadMan1290
LBP hype breaks the barriers of time! :O