Why I think PS3 has a deeper problem

OK, so I've done something that most people would probably say is silly. I bought Call of Duty 4 for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Mainly I did this because some of my friends are on the 360 and others are on the PS3 and I wanted to be able to play with both. But anyway having owned both versions I've noticed something very disturbing for the PS3.

By all rights the PS3 should kick the Xbox 360's ass in terms of CoD4 play. PSN is free. LIVE is not. The graphics for both consoles are pretty much identical but the PS3 has much better hardware than the Xbox 360. And yet despite all this, the Xbox 360 has WAY better CoD4 gameplay.

Unlike the PS3, I can get a game going on the 360 whenever I want. I could go online at 4am and still get a game within a minute. Not so with the PS3, it once took me 15 minutes during gaming prime time (5-7pm). NOBODY talks on PS3 because the console does not come with a microphone, unlike the 360. And despite the fact that I've never lagged on the PS3 (and many, many times on the 360), that's mitigated by the fact that I have played less than half the number of games.

So that deeper problem I was talking about? It seems that the PS3 players are just way too apathetic! Really, you guys either feel that the PS3 is going to succeed because Sony is going to have money dropped on them like Mannah from Heaven or else you're praying for a miracle. By my (admittedly limited) count, it seems like the PS3 CoD4 community is less than 1/10 of the Xbox LIVE CoD4 community.

Why is that? That should not be. If anything else, the PS3 CoD4 community should be BIGGER, because the 360 has a ton of great FPS to compete with CoD4 like Halo 3 and the Orange Box and Gears of War. The PS3 really doesn't (and don't get me started on Haze) so all the PS3 FPS fans should be flocking to CoD4 like moths to a flame. That's clearly not happening!

I really am curious as to what the PS3 players are thinking. On the one hand they're all like "oooooh the PS3 doesn't get any gaaaaames" but then when a great game like Call of Duty 4 comes out for the PS3 they don't play it! I don't know if that discourages the developers from making the game for the PS3 in the future but it sure as hell doesn't encourage them!

When a game that had up until now ALWAYS appeared exclusively on Sony platforms (Katamari Damacy) becomes an Xbox 360 exclusive (Beautiful Katamari), you know something is very wrong. But to be blunt, the PS3's problem is not the console or the games. It's us. It's the players who for some unfathomable reason choose to not play games on our chosen console, and then go out and complain about the lack of games. If we want the PS3 to succeed we need to show third-party developers that it's worth it to make games for the PS3. Or else the next CoD4 won't even be a multiplat, it'll be a 360 exclusive.

I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Truffle-Shuffle

PC > PS3 > Wii > 360

In '08!

Because I said so!

PS3 doesnt just have cod4? We have UT3, Orange Box, Warhawk, and Resistance all competing for people. I have been playing UT3 for the past 4 days becasue it rocks!

Coming from a halo 2 community, i like it when not everyone has a mic. You dont have cocky kids talking smack all the time.

I dont know where ur playing but I get a game everytime in no more than a minute on PSN. and in regards to the people not talking thing... I think most ppl have a headset just most dont use it... like me... the chat in COD4 is crappy... it picks up everything thats going on in the room so it gets annoying really quick so thats why I dont use it..tomjoetan

I agree, the chat needs an on and off button.

I also have an opinion about the xbox live service. I dislike the fact that i have to pay for peer to peer service. fartranger

how is xbox cheaper?

[QUOTE="Opalescent"]

how is xbox cheaper?

OK, so I've done something that most people would probably say is silly. I bought Call of Duty 4 for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Mainly I did this because some of my friends are on the 360 and others are on the PS3 and I wanted to be able to play with both. But anyway having owned both versions I've noticed something very disturbing for the PS3.

The graphics for both consoles are pretty much identical but the PS3 has much better hardware than the Xbox 360. And yet despite all this, the Xbox 360 has WAY better CoD4 gameplay.

farrell2k

This seems like a perfect reason NOT to buy a PS3 when I can get equal visuals and better gameplay foir less money on the 360. Microsoft thanks you for your support.

[QUOTE="Opalescent"]

OK, so I've done something that most people would probably say is silly. I bought Call of Duty 4 for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Mainly I did this because some of my friends are on the 360 and others are on the PS3 and I wanted to be able to play with both. But anyway having owned both versions I've noticed something very disturbing for the PS3.

The graphics for both consoles are pretty much identical but the PS3 has much better hardware than the Xbox 360. And yet despite all this, the Xbox 360 has WAY better CoD4 gameplay.

farrell2k

This seems like a perfect reason NOT to buy a PS3 when I can get equal visuals and better gameplay foir less money on the 360. Microsoft thanks you for your support.

how is xbox cheaper?

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.tbone29

PC > PS3 > Wii > 360

In '08!

Because I said so!

2 can play at that game:twisted:

Microsoft>Nintendo>Sony

Forever

Because I said so!

I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Truffle-Shuffle

u as a gamer? no gamer will bash other systems ...seems to me like ur a fanboy..

Virtuas thank you for reposting and putting the question on the bottom and not after my quote, because I perceived that the question was directed at me:)fartranger

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.tbone29

PC > PS3 > Wii > 360

In '08!

Because I said so!

Thanks for you opinion

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Gamerboi27

u as a gamer? no gamer will bash other systems ...seems to me like ur a fanboy..

So gamers are suppose to buy every system even the junky ones like the PS3 AND Wii?

[QUOTE="Gamerboi27"]

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Truffle-Shuffle

u as a gamer? no gamer will bash other systems ...seems to me like ur a fanboy..

So gamers are suppose to buy every system even the junky ones like the PS3 AND Wii?

where in my sentece did i tell u to purchase a ps3...dont bash the ps3 just casue 3rd party games are not as good as xbox...

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.tbone29

PC > PS3 > Wii > 360

In '08!

Because I said so!

I'd put Wii into the last. I don't see anything good coming in 08, expect SSBB.

Oh and whats wrong with the gameplay? you say its worse than the 360 version

[QUOTE="Gamerboi27"]

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Truffle-Shuffle

u as a gamer? no gamer will bash other systems ...seems to me like ur a fanboy..

So gamers are suppose to buy every system even the junky ones like the PS3 AND Wii?

Junky ones!? Its the 360 who has the33% of breaking down not the PS3 or the Wii.

OMG quit naysaying! i cant stand this sometimes. COD4 on the ps3 is awesome. i get into matches in less that 30 seconds. i can invite my friends from the game. usually you have at least 3-4 mics on a team, and thats ok.

what i dont understand is that when you have eveeryone on a mic, no one cooperates. theyre just either not saying anything, or you will get the occassional "Guy on top of roof"

Honestly though, why does everyone have to have a mic?

:shock: Stealing my Pic! how dare you!!:twisted:

:P

The biggest (and only) problem I see is that you bought the same game twice and then feel the need to make excuses to complain about it.

Actually, there is a second problem. You think that your online experiences must be shared by every other person who has ever played online. This puts you in league with the fanboys who claim XBL never has lag or cheaters because of "dedicated servers".

Fact: for every person who has problems with one online community but not another, is someone who has had the exact opposite experience.

completely and utterly WRONG.

i can start up a game whenever i want within 2 minutes on PSN. in every match i have been in at least half the people have talked with mikes. you don't experience lag on PSN unless you are the cause(you are downloading something on the computer, etc.)

completely and utterly WRONG.

i can start up a game whenever i want within 2 minutes on PSN. in every match i have been in at least half the people have talked with mikes. you don't experience lag on PSN unless you are the cause(you are downloading something on the computer, etc.)

mistervengeance

Sorry, your post is a steamy pile of failed BS.

OK, so I've done something that most people would probably say is silly. I bought Call of Duty 4 for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Mainly I did this because some of my friends are on the 360 and others are on the PS3 and I wanted to be able to play with both. But anyway having owned both versions I've noticed something very disturbing for the PS3.

By all rights the PS3 should kick the Xbox 360's ass in terms of CoD4 play. PSN is free. LIVE is not. The graphics for both consoles are pretty much identical but the PS3 has much better hardware than the Xbox 360. And yet despite all this, the Xbox 360 has WAY better CoD4 gameplay.

Unlike the PS3, I can get a game going on the 360 whenever I want. I could go online at 4am and still get a game within a minute. Not so with the PS3, it once took me 15 minutes during gaming prime time (5-7pm). NOBODY talks on PS3 because the console does not come with a microphone, unlike the 360. And despite the fact that I've never lagged on the PS3 (and many, many times on the 360), that's mitigated by the fact that I have played less than half the number of games.

So that deeper problem I was talking about? It seems that the PS3 players are just way too apathetic! Really, you guys either feel that the PS3 is going to succeed because Sony is going to have money dropped on them like Mannah from Heaven or else you're praying for a miracle. By my (admittedly limited) count, it seems like the PS3 CoD4 community is less than 1/10 of the Xbox LIVE CoD4 community.

Why is that? That should not be. If anything else, the PS3 CoD4 community should be BIGGER, because the 360 has a ton of great FPS to compete with CoD4 like Halo 3 and the Orange Box and Gears of War. The PS3 really doesn't (and don't get me started on Haze) so all the PS3 FPS fans should be flocking to CoD4 like moths to a flame. That's clearly not happening!

I really am curious as to what the PS3 players are thinking. On the one hand they're all like "oooooh the PS3 doesn't get any gaaaaames" but then when a great game like Call of Duty 4 comes out for the PS3 they don't play it! I don't know if that discourages the developers from making the game for the PS3 in the future but it sure as hell doesn't encourage them!

When a game that had up until now ALWAYS appeared exclusively on Sony platforms (Katamari Damacy) becomes an Xbox 360 exclusive (Beautiful Katamari), you know something is very wrong. But to be blunt, the PS3's problem is not the console or the games. It's us. It's the players who for some unfathomable reason choose to not play games on our chosen console, and then go out and complain about the lack of games. If we want the PS3 to succeed we need to show third-party developers that it's worth it to make games for the PS3. Or else the next CoD4 won't even be a multiplat, it'll be a 360 exclusive.

Opalescent

Zero sense of community was exactly why I quit playing Warhawk after the first month. Warhawk was such an amazing title yet it was more fun to play other titles because on Warhawk there was very little communication and teamwork.

All I ever ended up doing was dogfighting because you could still do well in it despite the fact that nobody had headsets or would work with you.

[QUOTE="Gamerboi27"]

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Truffle-Shuffle

u as a gamer? no gamer will bash other systems ...seems to me like ur a fanboy..

So gamers are suppose to buy every system even the junky ones like the PS3 AND Wii?

Dude, he's got you. I love my DS, Wii, 360. I don't like the PS3 very much do to my opinions on where the gaming industry but that doesn't mean there isn't good games on it that I'd love to play.

Ratchet & Clank, MGS 4, LittleBig Planet, all look cool. But, I'm just not willing to put a fourth game system in my room at this point, or forget to pay my tuition or car insurance.

Though I feel gaming would benefit from having only two consoles, and not one of those being Sony, I'd be lieing if I said I didn't want to play any games on PS3. Thing is I can play more games I want, plus alot of the same games on the PS3 on my 360 or Wii like Fatal Frame 4, Monster Hunter 3, Bully, Orange Box.

Well thats not a convincing argument I bet half the people who agreed with you haven't even read what you said. You basically basing everything on one game, be aware that 360 had an extra year to get everything right and having more users online. In fact games like RFOM &Warhawk there are lots of gamers online. PSNis picking up steam but there's only so much you can do in a year. 2008 will definitely be a year to watch for PS3 and trust meyou will see a big difference in amount of users online late next year to this year.

PSN is continuing to improve and will be a formidable online service over time. PSN is new toPS3 whilst Live was also around on the Xbox. I reckon Sony has done well in creating an online service and next year is only going to get better specially with the arrival of Home.

Also you mentioned Katamari Damacy going multiplat as a blow to Sony, why is that :?. You are aware that Keita Takahashi the creator of Katamari is not behind the 360 version, I believe he has sold the rights to KD to another group within Namco. You know like how Crash Badicoot & Spyro were sold to different developers because they were getting stale.

Keita Takahashi's next game which is Nobi Nobi Boy is a PS3 exclusive.

Also I would like to add that 3rd Party Exclusives will be rare this Gen but that doesn't mean PS3 won't get any. You can go on about that it will come to 360 how long you want but the fact is developers do see potential in PS3 since they are still making exclusives for it.

Notable Big Budget Exclusives for PS3 (3rd Party)

1. MGS4
2. Heavy Rain
3. LA Noir
4. War Devil
5. unnanmed Rockstar exclusive

and I'm sure there is many more to follow.

PS3 doesn't have a big problem as you say, besides I wouldn't judge PS3's whole 8 year lifespan on one year. Trust me 08 will be a year to remember especially for PS3.

[QUOTE="Gamerboi27"]

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Truffle-Shuffle

u as a gamer? no gamer will bash other systems ...seems to me like ur a fanboy..

So gamers are suppose to buy every system even the junky ones like the PS3 AND Wii?

I have to say very well written, but i beg to differ I can get into a game reasonalbly fast any time of the day. fartranger

OK, so I've done something that most people would probably say is silly. I bought Call of Duty 4 for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Mainly I did this because some of my friends are on the 360 and others are on the PS3 and I wanted to be able to play with both. But anyway having owned both versions I've noticed something very disturbing for the PS3.

By all rights the PS3 should kick the Xbox 360's ass in terms of CoD4 play. PSN is free. LIVE is not. The graphics for both consoles are pretty much identical but the PS3 has much better hardware than the Xbox 360. And yet despite all this, the Xbox 360 has WAY better CoD4 gameplay.

Unlike the PS3, I can get a game going on the 360 whenever I want. I could go online at 4am and still get a game within a minute. Not so with the PS3, it once took me 15 minutes during gaming prime time (5-7pm). NOBODY talks on PS3 because the console does not come with a microphone, unlike the 360. And despite the fact that I've never lagged on the PS3 (and many, many times on the 360), that's mitigated by the fact that I have played less than half the number of games.

So that deeper problem I was talking about? It seems that the PS3 players are just way too apathetic! Really, you guys either feel that the PS3 is going to succeed because Sony is going to have money dropped on them like Mannah from Heaven or else you're praying for a miracle. By my (admittedly limited) count, it seems like the PS3 CoD4 community is less than 1/10 of the Xbox LIVE CoD4 community.

Why is that? That should not be. If anything else, the PS3 CoD4 community should be BIGGER, because the 360 has a ton of great FPS to compete with CoD4 like Halo 3 and the Orange Box and Gears of War. The PS3 really doesn't (and don't get me started on Haze) so all the PS3 FPS fans should be flocking to CoD4 like moths to a flame. That's clearly not happening!

I really am curious as to what the PS3 players are thinking. On the one hand they're all like "oooooh the PS3 doesn't get any gaaaaames" but then when a great game like Call of Duty 4 comes out for the PS3 they don't play it! I don't know if that discourages the developers from making the game for the PS3 in the future but it sure as hell doesn't encourage them!

When a game that had up until now ALWAYS appeared exclusively on Sony platforms (Katamari Damacy) becomes an Xbox 360 exclusive (Beautiful Katamari), you know something is very wrong. But to be blunt, the PS3's problem is not the console or the games. It's us. It's the players who for some unfathomable reason choose to not play games on our chosen console, and then go out and complain about the lack of games. If we want the PS3 to succeed we need to show third-party developers that it's worth it to make games for the PS3. Or else the next CoD4 won't even be a multiplat, it'll be a 360 exclusive.

Opalescent

I'm a PS3 owner, but also a gamer, so I have to agree with you.

[QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="Truffle-Shuffle"]I think everybody in here knows how bad the PS3 is and just don't want to admit it. I being a gamer first and foremost think the PS3 is a waste of money and the 360 is just the best choice for gaming right now.Supafly1

PC > PS3 > Wii > 360

In '08!

Because I said so!

I'd put Wii into the last. I don't see anything good coming in 08, expect SSBB.

well I don't see anything good coming for the PS3 in 2008 except MGS4 which is most likely going multiplatform.. and would be collecting dust after a play through unlike SSMB or Mario Kart with tons of replay value.. I have been playing Melee and mario kart 64 for the last 5+ years to date..

Even the Wii has 2 Final Fantasy games next year.. I don't expect to see one on the ps3 in 2008..

Anything else on the PS3 like GTA4 I can pick up on my PC where REAL modding communities are found