why is blu-ray considered a better?and why isnt MS doing anything about it???

[QUOTE="M3ran"]

why doesnt MS care about blu-ray?

alfy57

my hddvd was $30 at the bestbuy closeout and it came with 5 movies.

ever hour i played dvds on it kept that hour of use from wearing out the drives in the ps3 and 360.

i love that thing for that alone.

why doesnt MS care about blu-ray?

bluray gots more space so it makes my games look better and make my games last longer, more bang to my buck. plus its scratch proof. m$ doesnt care because every bluray they sell gives money to sony. bluray won this gen and sony too **

_SWAG_

[QUOTE="alfy57"][QUOTE="M3ran"]

why doesnt MS care about blu-ray?

donalbane

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="alfy57"] They did and it was called HD DVD, but the format ended up failing. Which btw was funny, because they had all these HD Dvd drives for the 360 that no one was buying. It was just a sad sight to see, how MS backed the wrong format twice with the 360alfy57

Sure, no problem. "That is why Microsoft is handing out $100m checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu-ray," he continued. "They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth.""

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9829956-1.html

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

Why is blu-ray considered a better? Better optical media than dvd/hd-dvd? 'Cause it is.

What is MS to do about blu-ray being the superior format, make a new, superior format, even though media doesn't require it yet?

Why don't they care about it? They probably do and I'd not be surprised if they used it in their next console.

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In the end, optical media has it's days numbered, 'least I see it as having it's days numbered. With the proliferation of DD, and the always improving of internet services, it's only a matter of time 'til people just switch to it.

There are a bunch of console gamers who are obsessed with their precious physical copy of their games, who love their used garbage and worthless plastic boxes, but as a PC gamer since I was.. 8 ish? I've not had the ability to trade games or anything anyway, so I'm used to it, also, it's cheaper anyway, for the most part.

ohthemanatee

nice generalization, do you have a study or statistic to back up your claim?

Why do you need statistics, plenty of gamers say that when defending their physical copies. I personnaly have moved on to downloading, I just completed downloading Skyrim last night.

I love DD (Steam) because no matter what my game is always ready for download/install. I don't have to worry about loosing my copy, if it gets scratched, or if I lost the CD key. As a kid I loved keeping my boxes and copies of my Nintendo games, now I don't care so much. You won't see me sporting those boxes on my shelf or wall in my office.

why doesnt MS care about blu-ray?

M3ran

At the start of gen it was costly, the data transmission rates are still slower on drives compared to DVD's and various other things like cost so why bother.

Why is BR better? It's a disk that has more than enough data capacity than most people need, allowing more files. Why don't they care? Because it's MS

by the way, just as a reminder to all the people that like to talk about how sony won a format war.

they actually bought a format war for a 800 million dollar chip deal with hd dvd maker toshiba.

toshiba killed hd dvd and then got cut in on cell profits by making the chips from there on out.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/sony-selling-cell-chip-facilities-to-toshiba-for-835-million/

it's no biggie and i'm not really trying to make some anti anything point, i just think it's interesting how these guys work with each other.

blu-ray doesnt apply to gaming graphics at all,the games are made on a blu ray disc for more data and the blu ray reads it and dvds.it's a paperweight

MS doesnt care because everyone in the market...........besides the few that Sony convinced.............see that DD is the future for movies. Bluray has no benefit when it comes to games other that more storage space. It ALWAYS be the HARDWARE that dictates what games look like. Any storage medium is the same. PC proves this. HDD will always be better than any physical media, which is why i see MS going that route Next Gen before they use Bluray.....especially if the Windows 9 rumors are true, which should have the ability to install while playing. Adding a 500GB HDD with maybe HDDVD disc drive (to keep the red laser, which is cheaper) would be the perfect solution for MS and Ninty. Bluray isnt the future, DDs are. The market is already moving in that directionnavyguy21

Not sure about better but I like the scratch resistant coating. I can buy used or rent games without worry that the games won't work.

Because MS cares about Kinect and pushing outdated hardware, that's why they don't care about Blu Ray. But don't feel too bad, next gen MS will put Blu Ray in the next xbox, Blu Ray is the standard after all for HD and storage. I can't believe that in the year 2011 some people still have to exchange discs lol, it's not 1995 anymore guys, it's time for an upgrade.

I honestly don't even know how MS can advertise the 360 as an HD console, sure the games are in HD but it can't play HD movies. So it should be advertised as half HD just for games lol.

Because MS cares about Kinect and pushing outdated hardware, that's why they don't care about Blu Ray. But don't feel too bad, next gen MS will put Blu Ray in the next xbox, Blu Ray is the standard after all for HD and storage. I can't believe that in the year 2011 some people still have to exchange discs lol, it's not 1995 anymore guys, it's time for an upgrade.

I honestly don't even know how MS can advertise the 360 as an HD console, sure the games are in HD but it can't play HD movies. So it should be advertised as half HD just for games lol.

ShadowMoses900

Because MS cares about Kinect and pushing outdated hardware, that's why they don't care about Blu Ray. But don't feel too bad, next gen MS will put Blu Ray in the next xbox, Blu Ray is the standard after all for HD and storage. I can't believe that in the year 2011 some people still have to exchange discs lol, it's not 1995 anymore guys, it's time for an upgrade.

I honestly don't even know how MS can advertise the 360 as an HD console, sure the games are in HD but it can't play HD movies. So it should be advertised as half HD just for games lol.

ShadowMoses900

they made a huge mistake as usual. it is costing them dearly with devs leaving. the games are the price of this mistake, now xboxers are left with the like of sesame street.ConsoleCounsla_

Bluray is better in that it holds a lot more data, however the PS3 model is a slow 1 or 2x reader, so it negates the benefits of having bluray, because everything takes longer to load. Had Sony waited for the 4 or 8x drives then PS3 would definately have a large beneficial perk over 360, but they didn't. Digital streaming works as good if you have the hard drive space, and reads data much faster than both BR and DVD. It's probably the way of the future industry, however that really depends on download caps by service providers.

what would be funny is to run over to the pc board and ask those guys which blu ray player they reccomend for a new gaming pc build.

i can't imagine they would not laugh you off the board and tell you to get a $20 dvd drive for any new build.

Sony owns the rights to Blu Ray, which means if Microsoft had a Blu Ray console, they would have to pay Sony every time they wanted to make a game. That will never happen, obviously. donalbane

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Sony owns the rights to Blu Ray, which means if Microsoft had a Blu Ray console, they would have to pay Sony every time they wanted to make a game. That will never happen, obviously. Duckyindiana

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="donalbane"]Sony owns the rights to Blu Ray, which means if Microsoft had a Blu Ray console, they would have to pay Sony every time they wanted to make a game. That will never happen, obviously. donalbane

Bluray is better in that it holds a lot more data, however the PS3 model is a slow 1 or 2x reader, so it negates the benefits of having bluray, because everything takes longer to load. Had Sony waited for the 4 or 8x drives then PS3 would definately have a large beneficial perk over 360, but they didn't. Digital streaming works as good if you have the hard drive space, and reads data much faster than both BR and DVD. It's probably the way of the future industry, however that really depends on download caps by service providers.

Phazevariance

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Duckyindiana"] Sony don't own the rights to Blu-ray, its owned by a group of companies and they would not pay everytime they made a game. Duckyindiana

[QUOTE="M3ran"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Why, why bother developing something that's not going to make money? They have to consider, before making a new format, if it's going to be cost effective, and I really don't see pouring resources into a dead end like that as a good idea.

APiranhaAteMyVa

You fotgot about multilegual audio, which for non-english is better then being forced to use dubbing and multi game discs like medal of honor frontline on MoH in one disc.... exclusive to PS3

[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"][QUOTE="M3ran"] but i think MS shouldt be quiet about it it should talk about it more and more.its like saying ok we did make a mistake and we dont care anymore.ShadowriverUB

You fotgot about multilegual audio, which for non-english is better then being forced to use dubbing and multi game discs like medal of honor frontline on MoH in one disc.... exclusive to PS3

[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"]they made a huge mistake as usual. it is costing them dearly with devs leaving. the games are the price of this mistake, now xboxers are left with the like of sesame street.SOedipus

Bluray is Clearer and has better sound.

It also holds a lot more.

I honestly can say I perfer Bluray to DVD because of it.

Watching a Movie in Bluray just makes it seem like I'm watching the movie in a Theater.

Bluray is Clearer and has better sound.

It also holds a lot more.

I honestly can say I perfer Bluray to DVD because of it.

Watching a Movie in Bluray just makes it seem like I'm watching the movie in a Theater.

LegatoSkyheart

Bluray could improve loading time with the 12x drives that are out there. Though HDD are still faster.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]Blu-Ray for gaming is not better if you have to install them to HDD all the time.Kane04

BD is better because of the scratch resistant layer, and of course the storage space. I think that the BD drives and the discs lasts longer than any other disc format. I remember perfectly scratch free DVD's not working properly, while with BD I have yet to have a disc fail on me, and I am not good at putting the discs back into the cover.

BD is gonna be with us next gen aswell. The BD format can be updated, with faster read speeds, more layers on each discs which will give more storage space, and therefor, there is no need to make a new format. Besides, digital download will take over eventually.

Because MS cares about Kinect and pushing outdated hardware, that's why they don't care about Blu Ray. But don't feel too bad, next gen MS will put Blu Ray in the next xbox, Blu Ray is the standard after all for HD and storage. I can't believe that in the year 2011 some people still have to exchange discs lol, it's not 1995 anymore guys, it's time for an upgrade.

I honestly don't even know how MS can advertise the 360 as an HD console, sure the games are in HD but it can't play HD movies. So it should be advertised as half HD just for games lol.

ShadowMoses900

Sony is also pushing outdated hardware with NVIDIA RSX (non-unified shader Geforce 7 type GPU).

MS spend it's dollars on world's first unified shader GpGPU.

bluray gots more space so it makes my games look better and make my games last longer, more bang to my buck. plus its scratch proof. m$ doesnt care because every bluray they sell gives money to sony. bluray won this gen and sony too **

_SWAG_

Get some education from wiki link .

The "Blu-ray Disc founder group" was started on May 20, 2002 by MIT and nine leading electronic companies: Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG (Lucky GoldStar) Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, and Samsung.

Blu-ray doesn't help with rendering performance i.e. gaming PC says Hi.

MS is really busy doing something about blu-ray.

They are busy counting the piles upon piles of money they didn't waste adopting it.

Of course, that was an easy decision to make since it wasn't available at the time they launched.