Why is it.....???

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]

I simply dont understand why the CoD franchise continually gets beat up about not being innovative with each new title but other high profile franchises like Halo and Madden release new games each year and do nothing but add in cosmetic changes but the core gameplay reamains true to the series. CoD 4 made modern miltary FPS's as popular as they are because of fast, fluid gameplay and lots of unlocks to work towards. From the videos Ive seen of MW3, Infinity Ward has done alot with the game by adding in the Strike Packages which is almost a Class based system that can let everyone tailor their game to their play style. Getting rid lame perks like Light Weight, Commando and Final Stand is a great thing for game play. Based on what Ive seen, this game looks like it is closer to MW1 than MW2 and that is a great thing!

AdobeArtist

I'll agree that Madden is a very copy and paste reiteration of its titles. But any rant Halo gets for rehashing the "same game over and over" is completely unjustified. Unless you can point out any of the following that we've actually been doing in CE:

* dual weilding
* vehicle jacking
* 4 player co-op campaign
* photo and video capturing
* custom map making
* custom game type making
* having an in-game community sharing features
* weapon loadouts
* armour abilities
* co-op survival mode (Firefight)

Each iteration of the Halo series always brought something new to the table with more then just new weapons and skins, but gameplay mechanics that changed the dynamics of both the campaign and competitive landscape. And from each new game, taking what was brought before, the features stacked up to dramatically change the way players got togther in custom and ranked matches.

[QUOTE="Macutchi"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Halo games do not get released every year. Please do not put them in the same catagory with CoD annual rehashes.

kuraimen

^ exactly this

People hate Madden now, same thing will happen with COD in the future.

I agree man and they ignore people like nintendo who also do annual releases.

There's a zelda and mario for almost every year the wii has been on the market.

For zelda there's..

-TP

-Phantom Hourglass

-Spirit Tracks

-Skyward sword.

That's a zelda for almost every year!

Mario has -

- New Super Mario bros (DS)

- Yoshi's Island

- Super Mario Galaxy

- New Super Mario bros (wii)

- Super Mario Galaxy 2

- Super Mario 3D Land

This is actually more than 1 a year and this is not counting the Mario RPGs.

GD1551

Its only hated on because its the most popular. See: hate for halo 2 and 3. during 3 hate started shifting to COD.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] So Elite is bad for saving people money?dotWithShoes

paying for things like in game gold tag,strategy guides (available free and easily on sites like this and unecessary for CoD),Elite tv,basically to get the full out of clan functionality one must have elite aswell which to be honest is bad.

DLC's cool and all that but its pointless all you really are doing is paying upfront then you can dick measure with a few toys that everyone will just laugh at.

I just dont think CoD's DLC is even worth it that much tbh sorry bout that.

And how did i avoid the question :-/ someones got selective reading.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

But apprently, because they have the same basic structure, they are rehashes.

GD1551

If that doesn't make it a rehash what does? The Cod games all have something different this gen.

- 4 introduced perks and revamped MP.

- WAW introduced zombie mode

- MW2 introduced spec ops

- BO had wager matches as well as several new game modes and contracts

- MW3's changes are listed here.

So is having the same basic structure making you a rehash or not? Because COD will not be a rehash if that's the case.

You're deluding yourself if you think the galaxy games are the same thing as SM64 just because you collect stars, or that wind waker is the same as OOT because you play as a kid in a green hat who wields the master sword.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

I agree man and they ignore people like nintendo who also do annual releases.

There's a zelda and mario for almost every year the wii has been on the market.

For zelda there's..

-TP

-Phantom Hourglass

-Spirit Tracks

-Skyward sword.

That's a zelda for almost every year!

Mario has -

- New Super Mario bros (DS)

- Yoshi's Island

- Super Mario Galaxy

- New Super Mario bros (wii)

- Super Mario Galaxy 2

- Super Mario 3D Land

This is actually more than 1 a year and this is not counting the Mario RPGs.

dotWithShoes

Doesn't make it any less of a rehash.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Have you played the Zelda games? They are very different from one another, in the dungeon design and overworld alone, let alone gameplay mechanics.

turtlethetaffer

I've played all the console ones and only 1 of the handheld ones, they have the same gameplay mechanics.

Right... so we'll ignore the fac that in TP, you can transform into a Wolf, in OoT, you go backwards and forwards in time (which, I'll admit, wasn't too signifigant of a difference), WW you were sailing around, looking for treasure in a huge world (also tons of sidequests), Majora's Mask you could change your form into a Deku Scrub, Goron or Zora (not to mention replay everything) and in SS, from what we know, the dungeons blend in with the overworld, and you can fly?!

Again much like the COD games, all the zelda games add 1 new feature that makes them different than each other, still doesn't change the fact that the core gameplay, just like the COD games is the same since OOT.

You're right, CoD4 set the standard for the modern FPS genre, yet since then it has done nothing to rise above that standard, when you play CoD now you're just playing a standard FPS. The games have done nothing to evolve or progress in the last 5 years.meetroid8

It's because the COD series has added so little over the past iterations that things like the strike packages are now seen as huge changes... lol :lol:

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

But apprently, because they have the same basic structure, they are rehashes.

GD1551

If that doesn't make it a rehash what does? The Cod games all have something different this gen.

- 4 introduced perks and revamped MP.

- WAW introduced zombie mode

- MW2 introduced spec ops

- BO had wager matches as well as several new game modes and contracts

- MW3's changes are listed here.

So is having the same basic structure making you a rehash or not? Because COD will not be a rehash if that's the case.

TBH MW2 lost more features than it added.

Doesn't make it any less of a rehash.

GD1551

Some people think it's cute to hate on popular things, hence the so called "hipster gamer" who is infinitely more annoying than the the so called "bro gamer" ...and some people legitimately dont like the game, but when you start fishing for cool points by hating on the game all over forums and youtube, a game that no one is forcing you to buy btw, when it pains you soo much to see the masses enjoying something you dont like ... then, alas, you just might be a ...hipster gamer ...dun dun dunnn!! :o