Why is it ok for Bioshock to not have multiplayer, but not ok for MP3???

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#1 peaceful_anger
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Just so yall know, I think MP3 and Bioshock are similar in the fact that they will both have an excellent single player experience since they are both single player focused games. They both will have compelling storylines that revolve around the exploration and the experiences of the main character. I am personally happy they don't have multiplayer because every game doesn't need multiplayer especially when that's not what the game is even about.

But here's what I don't understand. Why do lemmings think it is okay for Bioshock to not have multiplayer, but think MP3 should have it? I find it rather sad and hypocritical that yall automatically think MP3 is going to suck now or isn't worth getting anymore because of the lack of multiplayer when Bioshock doesn't have it either, yet yall still praise it.

So lemmings, please explain to me why you think Metroid Prime 3, an FPA, should have multiplayer, but Bioshock, an FPS with RPG elements, shouldn't?

I also can't wait to see how these games get reviewed. I wonder if they both will get docked points for a lack of multiplayer (which I don't think they should), or if MP3 gets docked pts for a lack of multiplayer butnot Bioshock, or vice versa.

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#2 turgore
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Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.
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#3 Overthrow
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Well, I could see the addition of multiplayer to Bioshock on the PC sooner than later. Not that that matters to Lemmings. I do know that just because MP3 doesn't have the WiFi logo doesn't mean it's not internet compatible, and future updates could be made for download. One can only hope.

Other than that, yeah, it's all just a bunch of hypocrisy.

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#4 Sir-Marwin105
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Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.turgore
How do you know that? If anything, MP3 will be longer than Bioshock.
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#5 Spartan070
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The main reason is because the Wii needs a multiplayer game of this sort, the 360 already has plenty of these types of multiplayer games.
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#6 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="turgore"]Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.Sir-Marwin105
How do you know that? If anything, MP3 will be longer than Bioshock.

Agree 110%. I got ovwer 30 hours out of each of the previous Primes.

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Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.turgore

to the hardcore fan like me - it will last me a while. MP1 did, surly MP3 will.

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#8 justforlotr2004
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I believe I have heard some people saying they wish Bishock had multiplayer, but yes I guess that is a fair compairson in a way, though MP3 is a bigger tittle.
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#9 NorthlandMan
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because fanboys suck and they criticise anything regardless of the validity of thir complaints
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Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.turgore

It's obvious that you've never played a MP game.

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#11 Eltroz
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It all depends on how long each game is. I am not sure how long Bioshock is supposed to be or MP either. I think any game below 20 hours at the lowest should have multiplayer/online.

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Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.
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because the wii has higher standards than the pc and 360
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Why anyone woul want multiplayer in MP3 is beyond me. The multiplayer in MP2 sucked ass, and the only MP to have good multiplayer had to sacrifice its campaign. And what the MP series all about, people?
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What makes MP3 long? scanning, backtracking, dark world, silent cutscenes... Pretty much boring fillers.

While Bioshock is all about pure gameplay baby... And the story of Bioshock isnt lame like MP3's... Space Pirates? aliens? parasites?

MP3 needs to have a Multiplayer option cause it will never get a AAA rating with its upgraded gamecube graphics.

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#16 peaceful_anger
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The main reason is because the Wii needs a multiplayer game of this sort, the 360 already has plenty of these types of multiplayer games.Spartan070
I agree with you that the Wii needs an online multiplayer game, but Metroid Prime 3 isn't it since it has never been about multiplayer. I would look to BWii and SSBB for that, and who knows what Nintendo or a third party will show at E3.
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Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.Vandalvideo

How do you know they won't eventually patch it to have multiplayer on consoles?

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because the wii has higher standards than the pc and 360mestizoman
lol0l
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i dont think MP3 should have multiplayer. it would be nice to have, but defiantly not needed. i'd rather have wifi updates and expansions than a mutliplayer mode.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.Kayrod29

How do you know they won't eventually patch it to have multiplayer on consoles?

Because it will technically belong to the people who modded it in. They can't just yoink it and put it on consoles.
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#22 Tamarind_Face
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PS: metroid for the DS had online while the main series doesnt? thats gonna be a major blow to its final rating.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.Kayrod29

How do you know they won't eventually patch it to have multiplayer on consoles?

He doesn't, he's only speculating.
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PS: metroid for the DS had online while the main series doesnt? thats gonna be a major blow to its final rating.Tamarind_Face

Hunters was designed with multiplayer in mind. It's supposed to have it.

Corruption is designed with single-player in mind. It doesn't have to have it.

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What makes MP3 long? scanning, backtracking, dark world, silent cutscenes... Pretty much boring fillers.

While Bioshock is all about pure gameplay baby... And the story of Bioshock isnt lame like MP3's... Space Pirates? aliens? parasites?

MP3 needs to have a Multiplayer option cause it will never get a AAA rating with its upgraded gamecube graphics.

Tamarind_Face

You dont know how Bioshock or MP3 is since you havnt played it so you cant compair in a fair fashion.

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#26 Sir-Marwin105
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What makes MP3 long? scanning, backtracking, dark world, silent cutscenes... Pretty much boring fillers.

While Bioshock is all about pure gameplay baby... And the story of Bioshock isnt lame like MP3's... Space Pirates? aliens? parasites?

MP3 needs to have a Multiplayer option cause it will never get a AAA rating with its upgraded gamecube graphics.

Tamarind_Face
What can I do to you if it does get an AAA rating? Could I slap you?
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[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.Vandalvideo

How do you know they won't eventually patch it to have multiplayer on consoles?

Because it will technically belong to the people who modded it in. They can't just yoink it and put it on consoles.

I mean the devs of BioShock can make a patch that enables multiplayer. It's not impossible either, they've done it with COD2 and MechAssault. You don't know if they might plan that ahead in some time so umm yeah milk chocalate

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What makes MP3 long? scanning, backtracking, dark world, silent cutscenes... Pretty much boring fillers.

While Bioshock is all about pure gameplay baby... And the story of Bioshock isnt lame like MP3's... Space Pirates? aliens? parasites?

MP3 needs to have a Multiplayer option cause it will never get a AAA rating with its upgraded gamecube graphics.

Tamarind_Face
Dude please bring something else to the table instead of your ignorance.
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1. Metroid has had online before

2. The Wii has no online games and this is a perfect oppurtunity

R-Dot-Yung

You must be talking about MPH. The thing is, the dev was aiming at multiplayer so much that the SP flop, which is what metroid is best at. And Retro Studios seem to be more into SP then Multiplayer. So I pefer them to aim at SP then Multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.Vandalvideo

How do you know they won't eventually patch it to have multiplayer on consoles?

Because it will technically belong to the people who modded it in. They can't just yoink it and put it on consoles.

I don't think he was talking about "yoinking" someones independent work. They could make an official patch and release it over XBL.

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I mean the devs of BioShock can make a patch that enables multiplayer. It's not impossible either, they've done it with COD2 and MechAssault. You don't know if they might plan that ahead in some time so umm yeah milk chocalate Kayrod29
Its possible, but you're going to have to pay for it. I'm going to be enjoying nesquick for FREE while you have to drink crappy choco milk from teh cafeteria.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.Kayrod29

How do you know they won't eventually patch it to have multiplayer on consoles?

he was reffering to mods....many PC games get multiplayer modded in.

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Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.turgore


I played Metroid Prime 1 over, and over, and over trying to get 100% in my data files. If MP3 is the same way, then yes it'll keep me playing. Maybe I'll play it even more than Bioshock...

Multiplayer adds nothing more than an excuse to divert the players attention from the main story. (Or in some games cases, something to do after you beat the singleplayer game and wait for your next game.)
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#34 JB730
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What makes MP3 long? scanning, backtracking, dark world, silent cutscenes... Pretty much boring fillers.

While Bioshock is all about pure gameplay baby... And the story of Bioshock isnt lame like MP3's... Space Pirates? aliens? parasites?

MP3 needs to have a Multiplayer option cause it will never get a AAA rating with its upgraded gamecube graphics.

Tamarind_Face

oh is that so?

*marks this down for future ownage*

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[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Bioshock will inevitablly have co-op sooner or later on the PC. No milk chocolate for console players though.cobrax25

How do you know they won't eventually patch it to have multiplayer on consoles?

he was reffering to mods....many PC games get multiplayer modded in.

I see ... meh still prefer my 360 over my PC for gaming.

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[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]I mean the devs of BioShock can make a patch that enables multiplayer. It's not impossible either, they've done it with COD2 and MechAssault. You don't know if they might plan that ahead in some time so umm yeah milk chocalate Vandalvideo
Its possible, but you're going to have to pay for it. I'm going to be enjoying nesquick for FREE while you have to drink crappy choco milk from teh cafeteria.

Lol at attempted ownage. I think the "official" patch would be the nesquick while the "other party" patch would be teh crappy.

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#37 darkodonnie
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I would guess it is just that people were hopeful for online/splitscreen multiplayer with MP3 because: the DS version had good online, the Wii has 0 good online games, and Wii games are usually more fun with multiplayer than alone

meanwhile nobody expected online from Bioshock, and 360 owners have COD2/3, Gears of War, Halo 3, RB6: Vegas, FEAR, etc. for shooters with online multiplayer

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]I mean the devs of BioShock can make a patch that enables multiplayer. It's not impossible either, they've done it with COD2 and MechAssault. You don't know if they might plan that ahead in some time so umm yeah milk chocalate Spartan070

Its possible, but you're going to have to pay for it. I'm going to be enjoying nesquick for FREE while you have to drink crappy choco milk from teh cafeteria.

Lol at attempted ownage. I think the "official" patch would be the nesquick while the "other party" patch would be teh crappy.

As illustrated by the amazing patches for Oblivion that totally reavmped the gameplay, graphics, and content. Oh waitz.
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Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.turgore

man your everywhere making the most silly, biased comments.

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Because there are already several great multiplayer shooters on the Xbox 360...an online shooter doesn't exist on the Wii yet.
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I would guess it is just that people were hopeful for online/splitscreen multiplayer with MP3 because: the DS version had good online, the Wii has 0 good online games, and Wii games are usually more fun with multiplayer than alone

meanwhile nobody expected online from Bioshock, and 360 owners have COD2/3, Gears of War, Halo 3, RB6: Vegas, FEAR, etc. for shooters with online multiplayer

darkodonnie

You know when MP3 ws aounced, every sheep here was excited because hunters had online multiplayer so they expected MP3 to have one. Some were bragging that waggling with the wiimote was gonna be so much fun with an online multiplayer like Metroid. They basically demanded and expected it. well you know sheep they dont complain when nintendo speaks, so no backlash.

With Bioshock we didnt expect any online multiplayer. Only the ignorant complained about it not having online multiplayer.

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Because the 360 has online games to tide us over. The Wii does not.
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#43 martin_f
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Compare System shock 2 to Metroid Prime
Compare Deus Ex to Metroid Prime 2
Compare Bioshock to Metroid Prime 3
You will then have your answer
games on the left >>> games on the right.
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Would you like Oblivion to have MP ? Even if it did it would've been half arsed. Bioshock will keep you busy for a very long time...Mp3 won't.turgore

Metroid Prime games aren't what I would call short.

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If you're going to complain about Metroid Prime 3 not having multiplayer, you might as well complain about Twilight Princess, or even Mario not having multiplayer. Seriously, Metroid has more in common with those than it does with your online shooters such as Halo.
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#46 lordseer
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I've never played MP (just didn't have the interest) but it seems to me that the weapons and attacks in MP are more suited to multiplayer than Bioshock, along with the overall pacing of the game.

It really wouldn't bother me though if I wanted to play MP3 that it doesn't have MP.

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#47 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Beats me. Metroid Prime has even already proved that it thrives off of single player adventures by achieving an outstanding 9.7 score. Bioshock on the other hand is still new and has yet to prove itself.

If we look back at things, the one Metroid game that was online enabled achieved a disappointing AA score, even though I smelled foul play in that review considering that multiplayer was excellent for a handheld game. I think it is for the best that Metroid doesn't have multiplayer. Who said it would in the first place? It was just mere speculation on the part of fanboys, that happend to turn into a fact in people's minds.

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#48 -The-G-Man-
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Compare System shock 2 to Metroid Prime
Compare Deus Ex to Metroid Prime 2
Compare Bioshock to Metroid Prime 3
You will then have your answer
games on the left >>> games on the right.martin_f

I enjoyed Metroid Prime more than Deus Ex. System Shock 2 was equal.

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I think you bring up a valid argument and shows how hypocrisy runs rabid through SW.
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#50 REVOLUTIONfreak
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If you're going to complain about Metroid Prime 3 not having multiplayer, you might as well complain about Twilight Princess, or even Mario not having multiplayer. Seriously, Metroid has more in common with those than it does with your online shooters such as Halo._BlueDuck_
Agreed. MP isn't even an FPS, it's a "first person adventure", so it focuses more on exploration and puzzle solving than the actual shooting itself. Why else would it have a lock on feature? (Although I don't know if that is still included in this game)