Why is KZ: SF multiplayer 60fps/1080p, but BF4 is limited to 720p/60fps?

I could understand if BF4's visuals were a lot better than KZ:SF for the reason why EA opted for 720p to maintain 60fps, but from what I've seen BF4 doesn't look technically better than KZ:SF visuals in multiplayer.  Is there something BF4 is doing on a higher technical level than KZ:SF?

Sony first party secret sauce.

destruction, player count

More players, bigger world.. seems about right.

destruction, player count

lostrib

Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?    

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.  It doesn't make sense why the PS4 is running at the same resolution as the XB1 version outside this theory.  I truly think the PS4 version could have been 1600x900p and maintain 60fps, but because of the XB1 EA decided to water the PS4 version down.  

Devoting resources to 5 platforms, 64 vs 24 players, vehicles and more stuff happening on-screen. I'm not happy with 720p upscaled to 1080p at all, but it is lot better than what got last gen.

Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?    

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.  

emgesp

How about they are different games and do different things? BF has huge maps, vehicles, big players count. You can't possibly compare it with what killzone does. What killzone does is just look pretty. 

Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.

emgesp

There would never be any way to prove it, but it is plausible.

Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?    

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.  

emgesp

It's probably not this

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Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?    

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.  

Spartan070

Think its something to do with DICE having to make the game for 4 consoles, and the PC. Most of EA's games last gen were not ready for the 360 and PS3. DICE are probably playing it safe and going with 720p, as they would probably not have time to optimize for both new systems. 

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Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?    

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.  

emgesp

well we haven't really seen both console versions.  And i don't think they've even announced the final resolution for BF4 on consoles.  So cool your fanboy jets

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"] You seem to be a little mad that they are the same...

lostrib

well we haven't really seen both console versions.  And i don't think they've even announced the final resolution for BF4 on consoles.  So cool your fanboy jets

Think its something to do with DICE having to make the game for 4 consoles, and the PC. Most of EA's games last gen were not ready for the 360 and PS3. DICE are probably playing it safe and going with 720p, as they would probably not have time to optimize for both new systems. 

GTSaiyanjin2

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[QUOTE="emgesp"] It doesn't make any sense that they are in the same resolution, especially since the PS4 version likely won't be running higher res textures than the XB1 version. Eurogamer already proved the PS4 could handle multiplats at a higher resolution than the XB1 versions while still maintaining a similar framerate.

emgesp

well we haven't really seen both console versions.  And i don't think they've even announced the final resolution for BF4 on consoles.  So cool your fanboy jets

something more recent than this: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/08/23/battlefield-4-runs-at-720p-on-ps4-dashes-hopes-of-a-1080p-generation/comment-page-2/

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because sony is the bestest and everyone else is shit. 

[spoiler] I'm assuming that's what you wanted to hear. [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="emgesp"] It doesn't make any sense that they are in the same resolution, especially since the PS4 version likely won't be running higher res textures than the XB1 version. Eurogamer already proved the PS4 could handle multiplats at a higher resolution than the XB1 versions while still maintaining a similar framerate.

emgesp

well we haven't really seen both console versions.  And i don't think they've even announced the final resolution for BF4 on consoles.  So cool your fanboy jets

I just checked a link out and it looks like the PS4 version might indeed be running in a higher res than 720p. 

Here is the link someone on this thread posted. http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/08/23/battlefield-4-runs-at-720p-on-ps4-dashes-hopes-of-a-1080p-generation/comment-page-2/

Here is a quick quote of what they said.  

 "To clarify: BF4 running at a higher resolution than 720p in the PS4 dev environment. Final resolution when the game is optimised at launch!"

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Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?    

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.  

emgesp

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Think its something to do with DICE having to make the game for 4 consoles, and the PC. Most of EA's games last gen were not ready for the 360 and PS3. DICE are probably playing it safe and going with 720p, as they would probably not have time to optimize for both new systems. 

04dcarraher

LOL shut up. They will run circiles around pc's with similar specs.  There has also been no confirmation that BF4 runs in 720p on consoles.

Easy:

Massive maps that blow away Killzone maps in size

Destruction from blowing up walls to destroying entire buildings

Physics

Particle effects

64 players

It's using AA

People really are overhying the power of these consoles, I'm not saying that won't deliver because they will and do a lot, but to have everything won't be possible, something has to go between resolution, framerate and technical graphics.

-BF4 has much larger maps, and is very destruct able.

-Kz SF is optimized for 1 platform compared o BF4 which will be released on multiple systems that cross over gens.

-Gorilla Games are top notch console devs wen it comes to technical programing (graphics & AI)

Or is it possibly because EA aimed for parity between the PS4 and XB1 versions of BF4, so as not to upset any of the platform holders?    

I mean if the PS4 version was in 1080p and the XB1 version was in 720p then that wouldn't put XB1 in a positive light and Microsoft would be mad.  It doesn't make sense why the PS4 is running at the same resolution as the XB1 version outside this theory.  I truly think the PS4 version could have been 1600x900p and maintain 60fps, but because of the XB1 EA decided to water the PS4 version down.  

emgesp

Killzone SF is looking like it's striving for nothing more than being a COD clone. It's just a pretty but kinda current gen game. Small player count, small contrived maps, no destruction... But I'm not saying that it wouldn't be enjoyable just that the game offers nothing I haven't seen like a thousand times already. 

I pre-ordered the Killzone SF though, so I hope it at least has a decent story single player since I'm not paying for online in a while, I never been much of an online guy. I much prefer the movie games you guys hate so much. I might start paying for PSN somewhere down the line when we get games I want to play online like the new Guilty Gear or something else. But yeah, we can all give our thanks to M$ and the filthy lems for that.

Killzone SF is looking like it's striving for nothing more than being a COD clone. It's just a pretty but kinda current gen game. Small player count, small contrived maps, no destruction... But I'm not saying that it wouldn't be enjoyable just that the game offers nothing I haven't seen like a thousand times already. 

I pre-ordered the Killzone SF though, so I hope it at least has a decent story single player since I'm not paying for online in a while, I never been much of an online guy. I much prefer the movie games you guys hate so much. I might start paying for PSN somewhere down the line when we get games I want to play online like the new Guilty Gear or something else. But yeah, we can all give our thanks to M$ and the filthy lems for that.

Gue1

-BF4 has much larger maps, and is very destruct able.

-Kz SF is optimized for 1 platform compared o BF4 which will be released on multiple systems that cross over gens.

-Gorilla Games are top notch console devs wen it comes to technical programing (graphics & AI)

dercoo

This.

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destruction, player count

lostrib

This. And if you're playing Battlefield on a platform where you don't choose your own resolution, you're doing it wrong.

DICE has like 5 platforms to program for they are devoting 100% of their time and resources to optimizing for a single platform.Spartan070

Completely this.

Bigger maps, Bigger World, and Destructables.  I'm also willing to bet more features as far as customization of your soldier and more weapons.  Basically, KZSF is a turd in comparison to BF4.

Do you really even notice the difference between 720 and 1080 when you're playing, or is it just something morons on System Wars complain about in screenshots?

farrell2k

Bigger maps, Bigger World, and Destructables.  I'm also willing to bet more features as far as customization of your soldier and more weapons.  Basically, KZSF is a turd in comparison to BF4.

Rage010101

Do you really even notice the difference between 720 and 1080 when you're playing, or is it just something morons on System Wars complain about in screenshots?

farrell2k

as it stands if you squint your eyes and blur your vision, generally speaking a game will look more realistic.

if you cant master realistic graphics at 720p, there is no benefit to moving to 1080p. The sharper something that looks fake is, the more obvious its fake.

BF4 has bigger maps and player count but still... if graphics were the same i can understand but SF graphics are a lot better and full native 1080. BF devs have a lot to learn.

BF4 has bigger maps and player count but still... if graphics were the same i can understand but SF graphics are a lot better and full native 1080. BF devs have a lot to learn.

KillzoneSnake

Nah, Guerrilla needs to learn how to make a good game first, instead of a pretty empty shell.