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#1 deadmeat31
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i wanna see a graph compairing the first 5 months sales of the xbox 360 vs the first 5 months of the ps3

i found somfor some reason paste isnt working for links

basicaly its compair console on vgcharts

usa

after first 5 months

xbox 360 just under 1.4million

ps3 approx 1.44million

japan

360 about 125 thousand

ps3 914 thousand

total for first 5 months

xbox 360 1,434.957

ps3 first 5 months 2,351.229

not sure how accurate these numbers are but they paint a different picture to the one of the ps3 being white washed by the 360

 

 

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#2 88Ghost89
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teh sales don't matterz!
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#3 ZinkOxide
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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.
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#4 Ganon_919
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Where'd ya get it from?
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#5 deadmeat31
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Where'd ya get it from?Ganon_919

the website vgacharts like i said

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#6 dubvisions
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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.ZinkOxide

Oh, so because MS released their console too early and couldn't meet the same shipping quantities as Sony, the comparison isn;t fair???  How weak.  Lems use these figures all the time to try and prove 360 worthiness.  Saw it all the time a few months back before Sony had any time to prove anything.

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#7 deadmeat31
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teh sales don't matterz!88Ghost89
then what does
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#8 Ganon_919
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[QUOTE="Ganon_919"]Where'd ya get it from?deadmeat3171

the website vgacharts like i said

My bad, was reading and my eyes skipped right over it :P

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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.ZinkOxide

Shortages?!!

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#10 Conjuredevil
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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.ZinkOxide

Shortages?!!

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#11 88Ghost89
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[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]teh sales don't matterz!deadmeat3171
then what does

Teh graphicz?

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#12 jsnepo
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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way. 360 had shortages.ZinkOxide

And faulty hardware. You actually believe that the failure rate is 3%? Haven't you realized why the warranty was extended to a full year? Yeah, 10 million minus the faulty ones. 

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#13 milsvaard
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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way. 360 had shortages.ZinkOxide

 

So did the PS3. 

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#14 tmatte
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Sales fight! Sales fight!
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#15 redstormrisen
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But if you look at the graph the the PS3 sales have tailed right off. They look to be dipping under the 360's line in the next few months.
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#17 pundog
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Difference is that PS3 sales seem to be freefalling. Seems like after people got over the hype Sony put out they realized they're spending $600 for not that great a system. Maybe sales will pick up this summer when games like Lair and uncharted come out but when you're getting outsold by the GBA sounds like you're in trouble.
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#18 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]teh sales don't matterz!deadmeat3171
then what does

The games of course >_>
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#19 deadmeat31
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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.ZinkOxide
oh and the fact they had shipped 3.19 million by the end of march that means shortages does it where was the other 1.7 million hidding and however many they shipped in april
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#20 subrosian
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1. The Xbox 360 was supply limited during its first five months, the PS3 was not.
2. The sales that matter are current sales, if the 360 continues to outsell the PS3, given they are equally powerful systems, then this will be a decisive victory for the 360.

The 360 doesn't take a time out, while the PS3 plays catch-up. They were both designed and built at the same time, with the same access to emerging technologies - the PS3 got a massive delay thanks to manufacturing issues - if that means game over for it, oh well, that's life.

It's not like, when you apply for a job, your can tell the employer "hey, look, I know that other guy has an extra year of experience, but if we freeze him in carbonite for a year, then it will be fair to compare us!" - boss doesn't care, he wants the more experienced applicant now - your butt stays unemployed. A year from now, you both work, he still has an extra year of experience - unless you can produce better results by knowing some new technology or method (something the PS3 hasn't been doing, and may not be capable of), you're always going to be behind.
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#21 deadmeat31
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[QUOTE="deadmeat3171"][QUOTE="88Ghost89"]teh sales don't matterz!88Ghost89

then what does

Teh graphicz?

i thought it was gameplay
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#22 Ganon_919
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[QUOTE="deadmeat3171"][QUOTE="88Ghost89"]teh sales don't matterz!deepdreamer256
then what does

The games of course >_>

Games don't matter either silly...

It's all about what's labeled "cool" ;)

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#23 Eltroz
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Well how is PS3 doing compared to 360 now? that is all that matters in the end. Last I checked the 360 sold just over 2 times more the PS3 last month.
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#24 deadmeat31
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But if you look at the graph the the PS3 sales have tailed right off. They look to be dipping under the 360's line in the next few months.redstormrisen
how can it tail of in the next few months there hasnt been a next few months yet
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#25 ThaRepoMan
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Well how is PS3 doing compared to 360 now? that is all that matters in the end. Last I checked the 360 sold just over 2 times more the PS3 last month.Eltroz
were did you get that bit of infomation from?
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#26 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Well how is PS3 doing compared to 360 now? that is all that matters in the end. Last I checked the 360 sold just over 2 times more the PS3 last month.ThaRepoMan
were did you get that bit of infomation from?

A thing called NPD numbers.
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#27 albi321
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Who cares about the past, the time it should be compared to is now its not like people will think "Hmm the 360 had less games 4 months after launch than the ps3, so I am going to get the ps3" people see what is on a console at the moment.
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#28 ThaRepoMan
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[QUOTE="ThaRepoMan"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]Well how is PS3 doing compared to 360 now? that is all that matters in the end. Last I checked the 360 sold just over 2 times more the PS3 last month.Eltroz
were did you get that bit of infomation from?

A thing called NPD numbers.

were can i find the NPD numbers?
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#29 DeOne90
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[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.Conjuredevil

Shortages?!!

Hate it when ppl say the xbox 360 had shortage. It's true but ppl forget it din't have any competition at the time, the ps3 has a higher price tag etc... So the ps3 actually has a bigger disadvantage but is still selling more...

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#30 flinnha
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Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.ZinkOxide

He has a point.  I wanted a 360 and couldn't find one for months, but I saw a big stack of PS3s at my local Fry's 2 months ago...

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#31 ThaRepoMan
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[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way.  360 had shortages.DeOne90

Shortages?!!

Hate it when ppl say the xbox 360 had shortage. It's true but ppl forget it din't have any competition at the time, the ps3 has a higher price tag etc... So the ps3 actually has a bigger disadvantage but is still selling more...

DeOne90, good point.
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#32 jsnepo
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[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way. 360 had shortages.DeOne90

Shortages?!!

Hate it when ppl say the xbox 360 had shortage. It's true but ppl forget it din't have any competition at the time, the ps3 has a higher price tag etc... So the ps3 actually has a bigger disadvantage but is still selling more...

You don't have to post since Lemmings will just avoid what you just said. Good point by the way. And subtract the defective Xbox 360s from the total sales of the console. 

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#33 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="ThaRepoMan"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]Well how is PS3 doing compared to 360 now? that is all that matters in the end. Last I checked the 360 sold just over 2 times more the PS3 last month.ThaRepoMan
were did you get that bit of infomation from?

A thing called NPD numbers.

were can i find the NPD numbers?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25638236
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#34 ThaRepoMan
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[QUOTE="ThaRepoMan"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="ThaRepoMan"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]Well how is PS3 doing compared to 360 now? that is all that matters in the end. Last I checked the 360 sold just over 2 times more the PS3 last month.Eltroz
were did you get that bit of infomation from?

A thing called NPD numbers.

were can i find the NPD numbers?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25638236

nice
try lemmin head, thats the total sales chart not the monthly.
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#35 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="ThaRepoMan"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="ThaRepoMan"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]Well how is PS3 doing compared to 360 now? that is all that matters in the end. Last I checked the 360 sold just over 2 times more the PS3 last month.ThaRepoMan
were did you get that bit of infomation from?

A thing called NPD numbers.

were can i find the NPD numbers?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25638236

nice
try lemmin head, thats the total sales chart not the monthly.

That is the monthly total for America in April. PS3 82k
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[QUOTE="DeOne90"][QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Many cows do this, but it isn't relevant in any way. 360 had shortages.jsnepo

Shortages?!!

Hate it when ppl say the xbox 360 had shortage. It's true but ppl forget it din't have any competition at the time, the ps3 has a higher price tag etc... So the ps3 actually has a bigger disadvantage but is still selling more...

You don't have to post since Lemmings will just avoid what you just said. Good point by the way. And subtract the defective Xbox 360s from the total sales of the console. 

The PS3 did have a shortage of units at launch at least in the US (note that people were fighting over them).

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#38 ZinkOxide
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Shortages are shortages, regardless of competition.  People forget that NOBODY could buy a 360 for months anyway.  Even those who preordered didn't get theirs until months after launch.  There weren't any consoles for people to buy- they were all preordered.  So it wasn't like people had a choice to wait.
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#39 miscs
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i wanna see a graph compairing the first 5 months sales of the xbox 360 vs the first 5 months of the ps3

i found somfor some reason paste isnt working for links

basicaly its compair console on vgcharts

usa

after first 5 months

xbox 360 just under 1.4million

ps3 approx 1.44million

japan

360 about 125 thousand

ps3 914 thousand

total for first 5 months

xbox 360 1,434.957

ps3 first 5 months 2,351.229

not sure how accurate these numbers are but they paint a different picture to the one of the ps3 being white washed by the 360

 

 

deadmeat3171

 but the fact is that there are more 360's sold total 

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#40 Evil-Zero86
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Shortages are shortages, regardless of competition.  People forget that NOBODY could buy a 360 for months anyway.  Even those who preordered didn't get theirs until months after launch.  There weren't any consoles for people to buy- they were all preordered.  So it wasn't like people had a choice to wait.ZinkOxide

 

So whats the excuse now?  There are no shortages and they've barely reaching 11million after 1yr and a half, and thats given them their total shipped rather than how much they've actually sold which would probably just hitting 10mill.....enlighten me more with system wars logic.

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[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Shortages are shortages, regardless of competition.  People forget that NOBODY could buy a 360 for months anyway.  Even those who preordered didn't get theirs until months after launch.  There weren't any consoles for people to buy- they were all preordered.  So it wasn't like people had a choice to wait.Evil-Zero86

 

So whats the excuse now?  There are no shortages and they've barely reaching 11million after 1yr and a half, and thats given them their total shipped rather than how much they've actually sold which would probably just hitting 10mill.....enlighten me more with system wars logic.

 

Actually, the way I understand it, NPD gets sales numbers from the stores that sell the consoles, so, the numbers NPD puts out (360 sold 10.4 million at the beggining of the year) are in fact customers walking out of the stores, Wal-Mart is apparently the only chain that doesn't report their sales.

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#42 deadmeat31
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[QUOTE="deadmeat3171"]

i wanna see a graph compairing the first 5 months sales of the xbox 360 vs the first 5 months of the ps3

i found somfor some reason paste isnt working for links

basicaly its compair console on vgcharts

usa

after first 5 months

xbox 360 just under 1.4million

ps3 approx 1.44million

japan

360 about 125 thousand

ps3 914 thousand

total for first 5 months

xbox 360 1,434.957

ps3 first 5 months 2,351.229

not sure how accurate these numbers are but they paint a different picture to the one of the ps3 being white washed by the 360

 

 

miscs

 but the fact is that there are more 360's sold total 

oh consloe numbers then the winner is the ps2 followed by the ds then the psp woohoo sony has 2 of the highest selling consoles
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#43 GIJesse77
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Money numbers doesn't say anything.
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#44 makaelthosolcry
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teh sales don't matterz!88Ghost89

 

True dat ! seriously get a life man the 360 is better than the ps3 PERIOD . Stop trying to find solace with these meaningless and dastardly comparisons.. IT IS BLASPHEMY !! 

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#45 hazuki87
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Yeah... except the PS3 is more than just in stock, its siting on shelves everywhere. Whereas the 360 took about 6 months before it was in stores to go buy. I couldn't find one until almost the end of January and believe me, I was looking.
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#46 Kreean
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I'm curious about what lemmings will say when the Wii outsells the X360 at the end of the year!?
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#47 hazuki87
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Also for those saying the PS3 had shortages too. Yeah there was shortages... at launch, but not for 6 months afterwards. You can't go into a store now without tripping over the things.
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#48 Kreean
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How long did the X360 had shortages?
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#49 evil_naruto08
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i hate saying this i really do hate saying this but ya know what is going to win the nwii. yeah i hate that but its gonna happen even though it should be 360. but 360 is kicking ps3 butt right now and thats all that matters.
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#50 moohan
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I think the most telling and most reasonable comparison to make about sales numbers will be the first 14 months of each console's life. By the end of this calendar year, I think that will be a good time to say which company has a firmer hold or which is on the way up/down. There are so many different factors that go into the sales of a console in the first 6-8 Months (if it is launched in the Holiday window) that it really is futile and stupid to compare the numbers at this point.