Why is PC gaming experiencing a resurgence?

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#1 desperadoxd
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Is it because this generation of consoles is dated/reaching its cycle end? (Did this happen last generation?) Is it because PC games now seem to have more user involvement (see Steamworks, Bethesda and the Skyrim creationkit or mods in general)? Is it because a powerful PC is now cheaper to make/more appealing than doling out 500+ dollaeros on a dated (or even new) console? Thoughts?
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#2 koen57
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- Steam - relatively cheap components to get good graphic results, which are leagues better than their console counterparts (also lower loadingtimes are a blessing). The one advantage of development focussed on consoles. - better control with keyboard+mouse.
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#3 NoodleFighter
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6klsTm3TE&list=LLhBx4YTB1c6nIhIaQAyirlQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

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#4 vtoshkatur
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Steam

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#5 ChubbyGuy40
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-Digital Distribution

-Cheaper Games

-Free to Play that isn't pay2win.

-social networking

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#6 waltefmoney
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Because it's being consolized. :cool:

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#7 illmatic87
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It has nothing to do with consoles.

Digital Distribution

Independents

Transparency

Scalability of games at different price points

Market that touches on a wide range of nations/continents

Low investments required for Middle Market developers

GPU market for 1080p graphics settling to a very accessible price point

Bypassing of traditional product driven business models

Bypassing of traditional projects and production chains

Extended longevity for a game on a consumer and sales standpoint

Social media integration and involvement in a metacommunity (YouTube)

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#8 vtoshkatur
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6klsTm3TE&list=LLhBx4YTB1c6nIhIaQAyirlQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

NoodleFighter

Is that you? lol

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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6klsTm3TE&list=LLhBx4YTB1c6nIhIaQAyirlQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

vtoshkatur

Is that you? lol

yes :P

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#10 CaptainAhab13
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Steam, more capabilities, KB+M = better control, lots of Steam sales, and often games are cheaper on the PC versus their console counterparts.
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#11 Inconsistancy
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Steam($), garbage casual games, the console cycle, the fact that it's still a pc and has utility helps a little as well.

And I predict, it'll keep going up as APU's take hold, and even morons will have a computer that can play proper video games.

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#12 HaloinventedFPS
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yeah it happened last gen, 2004 is often called the best year in PC gaming ever

Half Life 2 and Doom 3 at 2003 E3 made consoles look like a complete joke

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#13 angryfodder
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Doom 3 looked amazing on xbox #justsaying
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#14 tjricardo089
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Here:

  • Steam's sales
  • Free to play games
  • Great MMOs
  • Freedom
  • Digital Distribution
  • Casual games
  • Indie games
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#15 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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The way I see it, there are two different things going on.

First off, the PC/console interplay, this happens every console cycle, the first two years of a consoles lifecycle its a hot comodity, then there will be around 1 year of fairly equal footing, and then the PC will win out with the majority of consumers.

That is how it "always goes" (in truth we only have a few gens we can base this off, but it seems like a reocurring theme, almost like a moon cycle :P)

The other part, has nothing to do with consoles at all. The PC has undergone a great deal of userfriendly steps, and the DD has shown its advantages on the PC: Steam, DD, cheater hardware, easier to build PCs, more overall versitility across all boards. The pc is generally the be all machine of the modern world.

In this area consoles and pc does not seem to be competing really.

Lastly comes the wildcard, Exclusives are dying, pretty much anyone who is not utterly Biased can see it, there is nearly only 1st party left, and they are few at that, so we are approaching an envioment where all systems will share the vast majority of games, so preference seems to be a huge factor now. This does not count for or against anything, its just an universal truth. Which makes me quite curious bout the next gen of consoles. What they will do.

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#16 Masenkoe
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Here:

  • Steam's sales
  • Free to play games
  • Great MMOs
  • Freedom
  • Digital Distribution
  • Casual games
  • Indie games

tjricardo089

MICCCCRROOOO TRAAANNSSSACCTTIOOONNSSS

ahaha I just had to add that but yes. Anybody want to find that article where Valve shows how their revenue goes up as their sale percentages increase?

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#17 GiantAssPanda
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6klsTm3TE&list=LLhBx4YTB1c6nIhIaQAyirlQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

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NEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRDD!!!!
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#18 sirk1264
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I have to admit that I was a console only gamer first and foremost but 2 years ago I got into pc gaming and haven't looked back. Smoother frame rate, better visuals, native 1080p resolution, freedom, steam, digital distribution are huge pluses IMO. It's not hard to build your own nowadays and the prices for decent components have gotten cheap to where mainstream users can even afford it. I still own a 360 and ps3 as I can't miss their exclusives but I play multiplats primarily on the pc for the better experience.
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Higher revenues, bigger overall fanbase, way less loopholes, more time to work on the actual game and way less red tape.

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#20 Heil68
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It has nothing to do with consoles.

Digital Distribution

Independents

Transparency

Scalability of games at different price points

Market that touches on a wide range of nations/continents

Low investments required for Middle Market developers

GPU market for 1080p graphics settling to a very accessible price point

Bypassing of traditional product driven business models

Bypassing of traditional projects and production chains

Extended longevity for a game on a consumer and sales standpoint

Social media integration and involvement in a metacommunity (YouTube)

illmatic87
That covers it nicely.
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#21 DaBrainz
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Consoles are in a lame duck session untill Wii U comes out that's why.
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#22 vtoshkatur
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6klsTm3TE&list=LLhBx4YTB1c6nIhIaQAyirlQ&index=1&feature=plpp_video

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Nice video! =P

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#23 jun_aka_pekto
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It's a cycle. Gaming has its ups and downs. If people gamed long enough, they'd notice it. Those who haven't tend to scream the sky is falling everytime we hit a down.

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#24 JLF1MarkII
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Digital Distribution.

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#25 HCMBusiness_89
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Pc's have always been on top. No questions. There is just more hype surrounding consoles atm. That's how it works.
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#26 eNT1TY
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Because it's being consolized. :cool:

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This lol, and it does console gaming better than consoles.
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#27 metal_zombie
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please no flaming me but it might because of Apple they're making computers and technology cool for everyone and at the same time making it user friendly for noobs

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#28 pelvist
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Because selling games on consoles nowadays is a gamble that only extremely wealthy companies can afford. To have a game sell well and reach profit on consoles you need a multi-million dollar hype/ad campaign and then you have to hope it doesnt flop so that it covers the cost of publishing as well. PC doesnt need massive publishing efforts for its games to sell and make profit.

Also digital distribution is becoming the future and the future is easier for everyone to implement on an open platform weather they are super rich or indie.

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#29 Jag85
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The reasons I can think of are:

-MMO games

-Internet browser games

-Social network games

-Steam games

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#30 ZombieKiller7
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Traditionally the last 2 years of every console gen is "PC time."

Things are changing because we're in a post-PC world.

Desktop computing is becoming obsolete.

That's not to say consoles have much of a future either.

The world is shifting toward casuals and smaller devices.

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#31 Hexagon_777
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A lot of very good answers in this thread. I myself joined the world of PC gaming for good recently. :D
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please no flaming me but it might because of Apple they're making computers and technology cool for everyone and at the same time making it user friendly for noobs

metal_zombie

nevermind the fact using an apple machine to game on is next to useless?

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#33 brennanhuff
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Farmville.

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#34 slimjimbadboy
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Farmville.

/thread

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Mount and Blade: Warband is an experience you will not find on consoles. Sure the story is lacking and the graphics are not up to par with corridor shooters (mod it), but no playthrough will be the same. You are the story, you play as you want too. Knock the difficulty up and boom.

Freedom.

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#35 santoron
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Lower prices, Steam, rise in MMO sector popularity, and the death of the third party multiplat have each helped remove barriers to PC gaming growth, to name a few. Personally, I think the consoles have trained more gamers to become comfortable with the concepts involved with PC gaming. Installs, patches, addons, and online communities/multiplayer aren't the foreign concepts they were to console gamers a decade ago. The jump to PC is smaller than ever.

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#36 Uloset
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To quote Adam Oxford of PC Gamer

"Before we get too excited, though, a lot of the money that's being talked about isn't from retail sales or even digital downloads – PC gaming in the traditional sense is not going to be a bigger market than all the consoles combined any time soon. Rather it's a reflection of booming growth in free-to-play models and microtransactions for Facebook games et al – which won't sell many graphics cards."

As interesting as these figures are, the reality is Core gaming is still very much in the hands of consoles. Though things are changing and like someone mentioned before, the line between consoles and PC have blurred this generation.

I'd also like to know who thinks building a PC is any easier today than it was 10-15 years ago? With the replacement of ISA with PCI and then Windows 95 PnP became king as did hold your hand OS installations. Then a few years later as online shopping caught on we abandoned computer stores and mail order catalogs. Since the late 90's and most definitely by 2000 building or upgrading a PC was pretty damn easy.

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#37 Merex760
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Steam

Cheaper price than ever before

Free online More freedom

Better multitasking capabilities

Exclusives have more depth and longer gameplay for your dollar.

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casual 5 dollar games.

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#39 Jankarcop
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casual 5 dollar games.

TopTierHustler

When you take out social/casual games PC has been still growing every year.

Problem?

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#40 Cranler
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Doom 3 looked amazing on xbox #justsayingangryfodder
Lol, it was a gigantic difference
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#41 wewantdoom4now
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It's not where's all these great pc exclusives?

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#42 lundy86_4
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It's not where's all these great pc exclusives?

wewantdoom4now

Here ya go!

Inb4 "These games are all crap. Games years ago didn't need 3D cards... Software rendering... Stupid ladder climbing animations... No jumping... etc."

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#43 Stalkerfieldsis
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please no flaming me but it might because of Apple they're making computers and technology cool for everyone and at the same time making it user friendly for noobs

metal_zombie

People complain about PC's being over-priced? Well I got my rig for $700, some NON-GAMING apple PC's are over $1000, so no, f*ck apple computers. Mac's are overpriced trend machines hyped by Hipsters.

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#44 ReadingRainbow4
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Because console gaming sucks unless it's your only option.

for a serious answer, it's most likely due to this being the end of the gen. developers are getting more and more sick of the dwindling performance they can get out of consoles and naturally devs are moving onto bigger and better things.

the 360 and Ps3 are both equally pathetic in that regard, however the ps3 has more games worth playing that you can't find anywhere else currently. Possibly the only reason I let it stay in my room.

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#45 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"]

please no flaming me but it might because of Apple they're making computers and technology cool for everyone and at the same time making it user friendly for noobsStalkerfieldsis

People complain about PC's being over-priced? Well I got my rig for $700, some NON-GAMING apple PC's are over $1000, so no, f*ck apple computers. Mac's are overpriced trend machines hyped by Hipsters.

When people realised that mac's are no good for gaming and get something that works :)

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#46 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="desperadoxd"]Is it because this generation of consoles is dated/reaching its cycle end? (Did this happen last generation?) Is it because PC games now seem to have more user involvement (see Steamworks, Bethesda and the Skyrim creationkit or mods in general)? Is it because a powerful PC is now cheaper to make/more appealing than doling out 500+ dollaeros on a dated (or even new) console? Thoughts?

Which console cost $500+?
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#47 ShadowDeathX
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Because playing the same old game series each year or every other year is getting BORING on consoles. :P
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#48 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="desperadoxd"]Is it because this generation of consoles is dated/reaching its cycle end? (Did this happen last generation?) Is it because PC games now seem to have more user involvement (see Steamworks, Bethesda and the Skyrim creationkit or mods in general)? Is it because a powerful PC is now cheaper to make/more appealing than doling out 500+ dollaeros on a dated (or even new) console? Thoughts?

Which console cost $500+?

The PS3 if you bought it when it came out....derp
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#49 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="desperadoxd"]Is it because this generation of consoles is dated/reaching its cycle end? (Did this happen last generation?) Is it because PC games now seem to have more user involvement (see Steamworks, Bethesda and the Skyrim creationkit or mods in general)? Is it because a powerful PC is now cheaper to make/more appealing than doling out 500+ dollaeros on a dated (or even new) console? Thoughts?

Which console cost $500+?

The PS3 if you bought it when it came out....derp

This isn't 2006.......Derp
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#50 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] Which console cost $500+?

The PS3 if you bought it when it came out....derp

This isn't 2006.......Derp

If you bought one back then you still made the $500-600 investment ;)