Why is Pokemon always bashed as being a rehash by cows and lemmangs?

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#1 Super_MooRio
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Each release they add more content to the basic super fun gameplay.

Red Blue...

Yellow added surfing pikachu as well as enhanced sprites and pikachu following you as well as gameboy printer functionality.

Gold and Silver added so much content that it would be hard to cover. 16 gyms and 3 time periods

Crystal added girl as an option and animated sprites

Ruby Saphire looked gorgeous and added alot as well such as battle tower

Emerald added the battle frontier and animated battlesprites

Fire Red Leaf green awesome remakes and they featured Wifi battles

Diamond Pearl, 5 time periods and touch screen as well as other additions

Platinum - recorder, battle frontier etc.

Soul Silver Heart Gold - pokewalker, your first pokemon follows you awesome remake.

Black White- so much added seasons, tripple battles, rotational battles, amazing graphics, phenomen capturing and pokemon musicals.

Why reinvent the wheel when you can just make it better? Why no outrage at Forza or GT? Or NBA/NFL games?

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#2 ilovebumhair
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because there mad that it outsells halo cod etc..
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#3 hensothor
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Is this a joke?
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#4 TheShadowLord07
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i rarely see anyone bashed it. of course the few did i seen hate says it because nintendo freak doesnt change gameplay,. reminds me of halo in a way

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#5 Duckyindiana
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Because its not!! I hardly see anyone bashing the game.
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#6 almasdeathchild
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Is this a joke?hensothor
this,and not he has been bashing everything but nintendo ever since he made that account

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#7 Zurrur
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They haven't improved the games at all since Pokemon red, it still has same major flaws

They really should just reboot the series and fix all the annoying gameplay mechanics

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#8 NotAFanboy7
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TC failed. :lol::lol::lol:

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#10 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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No one ever bashes Pokemon, it's kind of untouchable :|
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#11 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Digimon is better first of all. Secondly people bash COD for being rehashed but Pokemon gets a free pass for releasing 3 versions of the same game and then releasing 3 more versions of a very similar game?
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#12 waltefmoney
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Why do you keep making pro-Nintendo threads?

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#13 ActicEdge
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Who cares, its still fun, its still changing and it still sells millions and gets good reviews. Why would you care about what lemmings and cows think?

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#14 cain006
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Digimon is better first of all. Secondly people bash COD for being rehashed but Pokemon gets a free pass for releasing 3 versions of the same game and then releasing 3 more versions of a very similar game?Banjo_Kongfooie
I don't see why it matters that there's 3 versions, it's just to add variety and encourage trading. And they change/add a lot with every generation, but the core game stays the same. Pretty much what you want with a sequel.

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No one bashes it and your thread, name, avatar and profile instantly make me assume you are a fanboy and heavily biased towards Nintendo so anything you say from now on will be taken with a pinch of salt, lose the bias before questioning others.
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Digimon is better first of all.Banjo_Kongfooie
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#17 ActicEdge
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No one bashes it and your thread, name, avatar and profile instantly make me assume you are a fanboy and heavily biased towards Nintendo so anything you say from now on will be taken with a pinch of salt, lose the bias before questioning others.JohnF111

Lots of people bash pokemon for not evolving (which is false).

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Digimon is better first of all. Secondly people bash COD for being rehashed but Pokemon gets a free pass for releasing 3 versions of the same game and then releasing 3 more versions of a very similar game?cain006

I don't see why it matters that there's 3 versions, it's just to add variety and encourage trading. And they change/add a lot with every generation, but the core game stays the same. Pretty much what you want with a sequel.

No they really change very little...

Every other game franchise gets bashed for making the same game except Pokemon.Pokemon has been on a downward slope and fans want it 3D now... Like that will change the fact that it is boring and like Dynasty Warriors now.

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Digimon is better first of all.charizard1605
:lol:

Damn beat me to it, so I will add this

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]No one bashes it and your thread, name, avatar and profile instantly make me assume you are a fanboy and heavily biased towards Nintendo so anything you say from now on will be taken with a pinch of salt, lose the bias before questioning others.ActicEdge

Lots of people bash pokemon for not evolving (which is false).

Not many do, actually. Pokemon is a 'safe' franchise, and it's the premier handheld franchise. Most people who bash Pokemon for being stale also admit to not having played it since Gold/Silver, or are just to afraid of the stigma of playing something perceived as 'kiddy.'
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Digimon is better first of all. Secondly people bash COD for being rehashed but Pokemon gets a free pass for releasing 3 versions of the same game and then releasing 3 more versions of a very similar game?Banjo_Kongfooie

I don't see why it matters that there's 3 versions, it's just to add variety and encourage trading. And they change/add a lot with every generation, but the core game stays the same. Pretty much what you want with a sequel.

No they really change very little...

Every other game franchise gets bashed for making the same game except Pokemon.Pokemon has been on a downward slope and fans want it 3D now... Like that will change the fact that it is boring and like Dynasty Warriors now.

Someone doesn't know that Pokemon Black/White are the best received and best selling Pokemon games in over a decade and since Gold/Silver, which until now was seen as the peak of the series.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]No one bashes it and your thread, name, avatar and profile instantly make me assume you are a fanboy and heavily biased towards Nintendo so anything you say from now on will be taken with a pinch of salt, lose the bias before questioning others.charizard1605

Lots of people bash pokemon for not evolving (which is false).

Not many do, actually. Pokemon is a 'safe' franchise, and it's the premier handheld franchise. Most people who bash Pokemon for being stale also admit to not having played it since Gold/Silver, or are just to afraid of the stigma of playing something perceived as 'kiddy.'

I've seen lots of people bash pokemon around here. Its hardly safe, it gets thrown in the "not evolving" category all the time by haters. Obviously anyone who plays them knows that's false but it doesn't change that it faces ignorance all the time.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Lots of people bash pokemon for not evolving (which is false).

ActicEdge

Not many do, actually. Pokemon is a 'safe' franchise, and it's the premier handheld franchise. Most people who bash Pokemon for being stale also admit to not having played it since Gold/Silver, or are just to afraid of the stigma of playing something perceived as 'kiddy.'

I've seen lots of people bash pokemon around here. Its hardly safe, it gets thrown in the "not evolving" category all the time by haters. Obviously anyone who plays them knows that's false but it doesn't change that it faces ignorance all the time.

Yes, but the amount of bashing Pokemon faces is relatively less compared to the amount faced by so many other franchises on this board. On the whole, Pokemon is a well liked franchise here is what I am trying to say.
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Not sure if you're trying to defend Pokemon games or insinuate that their bad rehashes. I don't think I've ever seen people bash Pokemon.
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="cain006"]I don't see why it matters that there's 3 versions, it's just to add variety and encourage trading. And they change/add a lot with every generation, but the core game stays the same. Pretty much what you want with a sequel.

charizard1605

No they really change very little...

Every other game franchise gets bashed for making the same game except Pokemon.Pokemon has been on a downward slope and fans want it 3D now... Like that will change the fact that it is boring and like Dynasty Warriors now.

Someone doesn't know that Pokemon Black/White are the best received and best selling Pokemon games in over a decade and since Gold/Silver, which until now was seen as the peak of the series.


It is stale... I stopped playing with Ruby/Saphire. Terrible way for Nintendo to milk the fanbase but it works.

Also Wrong Pokemon Black and White are one of the lowest scoring in the franchise.

"It's the same Pokemon formula you've seen before." In the review.

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Digimon is better first of all. Secondly people bash COD for being rehashed but Pokemon gets a free pass for releasing 3 versions of the same game and then releasing 3 more versions of a very similar game?cain006

I don't see why it matters that there's 3 versions, it's just to add variety and encourage trading. And they change/add a lot with every generation, but the core game stays the same. Pretty much what you want with a sequel.

How can it add variety if the differences between the versions are almost non-existant? Heck, there were more differences in both versions of Battle Netwrk 3 then some pokemon games. The problem with Pokemon is they add one noticeable difference that barely affects the gameplay andbasically rehash the rest of the game over and over. Even Mario hasmore noticeable differences. It barely even attempts to cover up it's using the same formula because they know the fans will constatly defend it for them. Especially fans of the kids TV show based on the game.
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#27 cain006
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Digimon is better first of all. Secondly people bash COD for being rehashed but Pokemon gets a free pass for releasing 3 versions of the same game and then releasing 3 more versions of a very similar game?Banjo_Kongfooie

I don't see why it matters that there's 3 versions, it's just to add variety and encourage trading. And they change/add a lot with every generation, but the core game stays the same. Pretty much what you want with a sequel.

No they really change very little...

Every other game franchise gets bashed for making the same game except Pokemon.Pokemon has been on a downward slope and fans want it 3D now... Like that will change the fact that it is boring and like Dynasty Warriors now.

Gold/Silver added 2 types, night/day, holding items, ability to fight opponents again, etc.

Ruby/Sapphire added secret bases, abilities, double battles, contests

Diamond/Pearl added physical/special moves not based on type, online battling/trading.

I haven't gotten Black/White, but in every generation there has been a huge change in terms of battling.

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I actually liked Digimon, it gives more room for variety rather than Pokemon. But Pokemon could be compared to COD in the way that it does become repetitive. Think about it though, how much can you change in those two games? They should just start a new game with new characters and creatures not called pokemon plus some changes in the combat system.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Lots of people bash pokemon for not evolving (which is false).

ActicEdge

Not many do, actually. Pokemon is a 'safe' franchise, and it's the premier handheld franchise. Most people who bash Pokemon for being stale also admit to not having played it since Gold/Silver, or are just to afraid of the stigma of playing something perceived as 'kiddy.'

I've seen lots of people bash pokemon around here. Its hardly safe, it gets thrown in the "not evolving" category all the time by haters. Obviously anyone who plays them knows that's false but it doesn't change that it faces ignorance all the time.

I think it's more damage control "If CoD is stale then look at Pokemon, it hasn't changed at all a single bit, ever and it's milked to death because they have three versions of each generation which are no different and have no purpose other than to sell more copies!!". Just an example but you can see why whoever writes that nonsense is an idiot because the three games per generation serves the purpose of variety and to encourage one of the core mechanics the game provides, trading with friends and adding to the sense of achievement for collecting the entire library of pokemon. Just showing the example of the bashing i have mostly seen, in fact that's mostly the only example of bashing i've seen towards the series and is a half-baked argument.
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It doesn't get bashed too much. The hate is there though. :P

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#31 AppleJudgement
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@banjo The only way to relevant the series back to high points at this point would be to put actual EFFORT into the games or go the 3D route. We all know how 3D pokemon games do. For example, when was the last ne?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

No they really change very little...

Every other game franchise gets bashed for making the same game except Pokemon.Pokemon has been on a downward slope and fans want it 3D now... Like that will change the fact that it is boring and like Dynasty Warriors now.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Someone doesn't know that Pokemon Black/White are the best received and best selling Pokemon games in over a decade and since Gold/Silver, which until now was seen as the peak of the series.


It is stale... I stopped playing with Ruby/Saphire. Terrible way for Nintendo to milk the fanbase but it works.

Also Wrong Pokemon Black and White are one of the lowest scoring in the franchise.

"It's the same Pokemon formula you've seen before." In the review.

I've played every generation, I don't think its stale. Now what?

Lol at gamespot's opinion on pokemon, they are free to it but they are hardly the definitive source.

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super fun gameplay

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It is stale... I stopped playing with Ruby/Saphire. Terrible way for Nintendo to milk the fanbase but it works.

Also Wrong Pokemon Black and White are one of the lowest scoring in the franchise.

"It's the same Pokemon formula you've seen before." In the review.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Nope. Highest rated Pokemon games since Gold/Silver. One review does not represent the general critical reception. And since you have not played the games since Ruby and Sapphire (see what I meant Actic?), your opinion is null and void.
I think it's more damage control "If CoD is stale then look at Pokemon, it hasn't changed at all a single bit, ever and it's milked to death because they have three versions of each generation which are no different and have no purpose other than to sell more copies!!". Just an example but you can see why whoever writes that nonsense is an idiot because the three games per generation serves the purpose of variety and to encourage one of the core mechanics the game provides, trading with friends and adding to the sense of achievement for collecting the entire library of pokemon. Just showing the example of the bashing i have mostly seen, in fact that's mostly the only example of bashing i've seen towards the series and is a half-baked argument.JohnF111
Pretty much. I usually laugh at the people who compare Pokemon with Call of Duty. For starters, the depth in Pokemon's mechanics isn't even comparable with how shallow Call of Duty is, and Pokemon changes quite a bit every generation.

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I stopped playing after Fire Red and Leaf Green. The pokemon are dead. I mean 4th and 5th generation pokemon suck so much it's not even funny.

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#36 Gxgear
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This just in, if you bash Pokemon then you must be a console fanboy...

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#37 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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This just in, if you bash Pokemon then you must be a console fanboy...

Gxgear
... who said that?
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#38 theuncharted34
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Lemmangs?

We should totally call them that now.

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Such a fakeboy account... all you've done is made these "Quit QQ over Nintendo!" threads ever since you got here.

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I'm trying to decide if the TC is being sarcastic or not, as those list of differences actually speaks more to it being rehashed than defeating said argument.
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@char What depth? Pokemon barely changes each generation. The tweak a repetitive formula and cover it up with one or 2 things that barely affect the gameplay at all but they show it off to trick people like you it;s different each game. Also 3 or 2 versions does not add any veriety, maybe it used to, not now considering there are barely any differeces. Plus, the complete game is the 3 one usually meaning you played the cut version of the full game and payed the same price for it. There are more differences in both versions of Battle Network 3 then Diamond and Peral for example.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Not many do, actually. Pokemon is a 'safe' franchise, and it's the premier handheld franchise. Most people who bash Pokemon for being stale also admit to not having played it since Gold/Silver, or are just to afraid of the stigma of playing something perceived as 'kiddy.'JohnF111

I've seen lots of people bash pokemon around here. Its hardly safe, it gets thrown in the "not evolving" category all the time by haters. Obviously anyone who plays them knows that's false but it doesn't change that it faces ignorance all the time.

I think it's more damage control "If CoD is stale then look at Pokemon, it hasn't changed at all a single bit, ever and it's milked to death because they have three versions of each generation which are no different and have no purpose other than to sell more copies!!". Just an example but you can see why whoever writes that nonsense is an idiot because the three games per generation serves the purpose of variety and to encourage one of the core mechanics the game provides, trading with friends and adding to the sense of achievement for collecting the entire library of pokemon. Just showing the example of the bashing i have mostly seen, in fact that's mostly the only example of bashing i've seen towards the series and is a half-baked argument.

I agree with you but I still feel that it receives its fair share of bashing. You just don't see it until the games release. There aren't many great attacks towards pokemon as it just does its own thing really well.

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@char What depth? Pokemon barely changes each generation. The tweak a repetitive formula and cover it up with one or 2 things that barely affect the gameplay at all but they show it off to trick people like you it;s different each game. Also 3 or 2 versions does not add any veriety, maybe it used to, not now considering there are barely any differeces. Plus, the complete game is the 3 one usually meaning you played the cut version of the full game and payed the same price for it. There are more differences in both versions of Battle Network 3 then Diamond and Peral for example.AppleJudgement
What depth? What depth?

Do you know...

*sigh*

Here, I found this in a review. Maybe this will explain it to you: The Pokémon world is inhabited by nearly five hundred species of special creatures known as Pokémon (well, duh). Each of these creatures can have up to two elemental affiliations, which range from the obvious like Fire, or Water or Electric, to the imaginative like Dark, or Psychic or even Dragon. Each type is stronger against some, and weaker to others -- like an electric Pokémon can wipe the floor clean with a water Pokémon. Water Pokémon, in turn, are super powerful against Ground Pokémon, who in turn are immune to electric Pokémon. It's like a complex and bizarre rendition of Rock/Paper/Scissors.


Each Pokémon learns new attacks (that in themselves have an elemental affinity -- for instance, flamethrower will be a fire attack, whereas Surf will be Water) and grows as it battles other Pokémon, either in the wild, or those under possession of someone else, until it reaches a certain point where it evolves into a bigger, more powerful creature, and gains access to even more powerful attacks.

Pokémon trainers (as the protagonists of the games are labeled) are essentially tasked with taming and harnessing these Pokémon so that they can build the ultimate battle team. This requires rigorous training, and a lot of planning and foresight, as you essentially have to cover for every eventuality. You can only have six Pokémon in your team at a time, and since there are seventeen types, with not a single one of them being all powerful, you'll need to ensure that you create the most balanced and well thought out team that you can.

Once you think you have a balanced team, you may battle a trainer, either in-game or online, who totally steamrolls you, or you may meet a wild Pokémon that will make you realize the inadequacy of your team. It's a never ending process, and your team is constantly growing and evolving.

Battling, however, is only half the story told. The other more ambitious task that the game assigns you is to catch every Pokémon that exists (and hence the old adage). However, there's a catch: no Pokémon game has all the Pokémon available, and moreover, certain choices that you make during the course of the story will make some Pokémon permanently inaccessible to you. The only way to catch them all, then, is to trade with others. However, trades themselves have to be well thought out, and both players should be getting exactly the type of Pokémon the other wants. More still, certain Pokémon are super rare legendary Pokémon that are incredibly hard to catch -- you'll be hard pressed to find a trainer who will be willing to part with these.

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#44 ActicEdge
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@char What depth? Pokemon barely changes each generation. The tweak a repetitive formula and cover it up with one or 2 things that barely affect the gameplay at all but they show it off to trick people like you it;s different each game.Also 3 or 2 versions does not add any veriety, maybe it used to, not now considering there are barely any differeces.Plus, the complete game is the 3 one usually meaning you played the cut version of the full game and payed the same price for it. There are more differences in both versions of Battle Network 3 then Diamond and Peral for example.AppleJudgement

Wrong, there generally are significant changes to the actual mechanics of the games. Things you don't see when you just watch a gameplay video randomly off youtube. There also improve things like movesets, abilities and add lots of features and mini games.

If that's actually what you think I'd love to battle you, I've been out of the loop for quite some time but even with my outdated pokemone I would destroy you because I actually know how the mechanics work and change each generation, something you wouldn't know about because you don't actually pay attention to the franchise.

The different versions generally contain different pokemon, the point being that in a game focused around collecting and training, you need a reason to get kids to trade with each other. If you could get all the pokemon in one version easily kids wouldn't want to play different games and trade among each other. Changes between versions has been pretty minimal though Black and White helped bring more relevance with exclusive areas, pokemon and battle differences.

The third version is the more complete version generally with balnces made and some extra content so late comers can catch up. Generally the third version simplifies catching some pokemon and makes it harder to get others.

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#45 theuncharted34
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People that usually say this don't battle competitively.

Even so, the single player of B/W proves that wrong on its own, it's such an amazing game.

EDIT: And EVEN THEN, each new game regardless still has over 100 new pokemon and new sight's to see.

I really don't see how you can call the series a rehash, otherwise you'd have to call every game series in existance a rehash.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]No one bashes it and your thread, name, avatar and profile instantly make me assume you are a fanboy and heavily biased towards Nintendo so anything you say from now on will be taken with a pinch of salt, lose the bias before questioning others.charizard1605

Lots of people bash pokemon for not evolving (which is false).

Not many do, actually. Pokemon is a 'safe' franchise, and it's the premier handheld franchise. Most people who bash Pokemon for being stale also admit to not having played it since Gold/Silver, or are just to afraid of the stigma of playing something perceived as 'kiddy.'

I've played every gen of Pokemon except for Black & White. I actually still like the series, but unless you're really into the Competitive Battle scene, the series as a whole hasn't changed that much.

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Because Pokemon is on Nintendo consoles and they mad. Success breeds Jealousy. :P
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]No one bashes it and your thread, name, avatar and profile instantly make me assume you are a fanboy and heavily biased towards Nintendo so anything you say from now on will be taken with a pinch of salt, lose the bias before questioning others.ActicEdge

Lots of people bash pokemon for not evolving (which is false).

Yep, also because it's for kids :roll:

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Lems and cows gotta use something as SW ammunition....

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[QUOTE="AppleJudgement"]@char What depth? Pokemon barely changes each generation. The tweak a repetitive formula and cover it up with one or 2 things that barely affect the gameplay at all but they show it off to trick people like you it;s different each game. Also 3 or 2 versions does not add any veriety, maybe it used to, not now considering there are barely any differeces. Plus, the complete game is the 3 one usually meaning you played the cut version of the full game and payed the same price for it. There are more differences in both versions of Battle Network 3 then Diamond and Peral for example.ActicEdge

Wrong, there generally are significant changes to the actual mechanics of the games. Things you don't see when you just watch a gameplay video randomly off youtube. There also improve things like movesets, abilities and add lots of features and mini games.

If that's actually what you think I'd love to battle you, I've been out of the loop for quite some time but even with my outdated pokemone I would destroy you because I actually know how the mechanics work and change each generation, something you wouldn't know about because you don't actually pay attention to the franchise.

The different versions generally contain different pokemon, the point being that in a game focused around collecting and training, you need a reason to get kids to trade with each other. If you could get all the pokemon in one version easily kids wouldn't want to play different games and trade among each other. Changes between versions has been pretty minimal though Black and White helped bring more relevance with exclusive areas, pokemon and battle differences.

The third version is the more complete version generally with balnces made and some extra content so late comers can catch up. Generally the third version simplifies catching some pokemon and makes it harder to get others.

I beat Diamond, Pearl, and Platnium with literally only Chimchar>Monferno> Infernape, by itself!!!!!!! With only characters there to keep me from dying or reviving me until I get the legendary which also is only used as a back-up and beat the crap out of people in battles with the overpowerd Infernape. In Black and White, I beat the whole game with Snivy and it's forms. Which means technically one charater, until I got The Black legendary, and of course, that was also a back-up. The balance in the series has been ridculous for 3 gens, including during the single player. Heck Black and what's Sp is way off balance, having you become almost vitually useless once you beat the game by having you fight lvl 66+ POKEMON RANDOMLY. I COMPLAIN ABOUT GAME after i PLAY THEM WITHOUT BLIND THOUGHT. Even if I don't like them I can't have an opinion without playing them and I mean not rushing through them either. I know the plot. I used the features, even though I was not a fan of most of the as you call "NEW" features in Black and White. Mostly White. As I said, there are more differences in Battle Network 3, then they are between the intial two pokemon versions, yet noone defended that but you will defend this? The third version is intially worked on usually during the first twos release, meaning they are just money making BS to get your money. They are spam, I would rather pay full price for the full product. But even then, they don;t really add that much to the "Finished version" because they want the first 2 to be enoguh for people not to compare them to the previous games. But still you have a respectable opinion. @charzard: That has nothing to do with what I am saying btw.