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#1  Edited By Juub1990
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1. Conference was disastrous. They didn't even seem to believe in their own product.

2. Relatively speaking, the PS4 Slim is not as good compared to the PS4 as the Xbox One Slim is compared to the regular Xbox One.

3. We all know Scorpio will destroy the Pro in terms of power. They no longer brag about specs.

4. They're supposedly launching the PS4 to compete with PC. We all know it's bollocks. Why would they offer PSNow on PC if they wanted to compete with them? You don't give whatever gives you an edge to the enemy.

5. They lost two NPD reports in a row after having won I don't remember how many in a row.

6. No Man's Sky debacle

7. No to Fallout 4 mods

It seems they're afraid of an ominous event waiting to happen.

They should take a deep breath and relax. Their console is still leading by a significant margin. Now with the PS4 Slim and Pro being sold, they'll take NPD back.

They're doing more damage control than their own fanboys. Scorpio is still a year away and power doesn't sell consoles. Good marketing, services and games do.

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#2 kvally
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Sony is in panic mode because they have no games, lost their exclusives, are losing NPD the last couple of months, released the PS Pro1080p to a complete let down, games are getting lambasted on metacritic. It is a means to an end. They can still turn this around though.

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#3 foxhound_fox
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They spent this entire generation relying on their marketing hype to sell the console. Now they are running around trying to make something happen again and failing miserably.

Like I've been saying for a couple years now, the PS4 is only doing well because it had good marketing. The XBO had the problems at their conference and the backlash that hurt them, but now they are in prime position to usurp Sony and win the "generation" (won't get into this discussion here as it's not worth it).

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#4 King_Dodongo
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The slim ps4 is basically a desperate move. NO point in buying one.

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#5 Telekill
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I don't see Sony in panic mode. I see fanboys from both sides overreacting as per usual.

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THEY ARE COMING ....

In all seriousness I doubt Sony are shaking in their boots. Market leaders, new SKU's will see sales bump and we have no idea what the scorpio will be priced at. If its $600 I doubt it makes a major impact in the market.

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#7 Juub1990
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@Telekill said:

I don't see Sony in panic mode. I see fanboys from both sides overreacting as per usual.

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#8 Dakur
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I fail to see this panic. Are you sure you're not projecting?

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#9  Edited By PAL360
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PS4, which is a fantastic console, should have been their main focus for 3 more years or so, and then release a PS5.

PS4 have been showing great looking games at pretty nice performances (1080p30 for singleplayer games and 900/1080p60 for most multiplayer ones). PS4 Pro, on the other hand, seems to have no real purpose. It's not powerful enough for native 4K and, for some stupid reason, it's not meant to run ALL games at 1080p60 (what most gamers have been asking for).

Terrible priorities, in my opinion.

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@PAL360 said:

They should have focus on the original PS4, which is a fantastic console, and release a PS5 in 3 years or so.

PS4 have been showing great looking games at pretty nice performances (1080p30 for singleplayer games and 900/1080p60 for most multiplayer ones). PS4 Pro, on the other hand, seems to have no real purpose. It's not powerful enough for native 4K and, for some stupid reason, it's not meant to run ALL games at 1080p60 (what most gamers have been asking for).

Terrible priorities, in my opinion.

PS4 Pro is for VR. That's it. They want to push VR. It also refreshes the brand and will create a spike on sales when it releases.

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#11 PAL360
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@dakur said:
@PAL360 said:

They should have focus on the original PS4, which is a fantastic console, and release a PS5 in 3 years or so.

PS4 have been showing great looking games at pretty nice performances (1080p30 for singleplayer games and 900/1080p60 for most multiplayer ones). PS4 Pro, on the other hand, seems to have no real purpose. It's not powerful enough for native 4K and, for some stupid reason, it's not meant to run ALL games at 1080p60 (what most gamers have been asking for).

Terrible priorities, in my opinion.

PS4 Pro is for VR. That's it. They want to push VR. It also refreshes the brand and will create a spike on sales when it releases.

According to those who already tried PSVR, the main model works pretty well.

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#12 Dakur
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@PAL360 said:
@dakur said:
@PAL360 said:

They should have focus on the original PS4, which is a fantastic console, and release a PS5 in 3 years or so.

PS4 have been showing great looking games at pretty nice performances (1080p30 for singleplayer games and 900/1080p60 for most multiplayer ones). PS4 Pro, on the other hand, seems to have no real purpose. It's not powerful enough for native 4K and, for some stupid reason, it's not meant to run ALL games at 1080p60 (what most gamers have been asking for).

Terrible priorities, in my opinion.

PS4 Pro is for VR. That's it. They want to push VR. It also refreshes the brand and will create a spike on sales when it releases.

According to those who already tried PSVR, the main model works pretty well.

Maybe for more demanding games in the future.

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#13 Heil68
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They aren't, it's just them with the pedal to the medal, driving this gen along at warp mother fucking speed. Awwwww yeahhhhh

No wonder since they are current gen 8 console leader with most exclusives and current holds crown of most recent 10/10 AAAAE excluive.

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#14  Edited By PAL360
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@dakur said:
@PAL360 said:
@dakur said:
@PAL360 said:

They should have focus on the original PS4, which is a fantastic console, and release a PS5 in 3 years or so.

PS4 have been showing great looking games at pretty nice performances (1080p30 for singleplayer games and 900/1080p60 for most multiplayer ones). PS4 Pro, on the other hand, seems to have no real purpose. It's not powerful enough for native 4K and, for some stupid reason, it's not meant to run ALL games at 1080p60 (what most gamers have been asking for).

Terrible priorities, in my opinion.

PS4 Pro is for VR. That's it. They want to push VR. It also refreshes the brand and will create a spike on sales when it releases.

According to those who already tried PSVR, the main model works pretty well.

Maybe for more demanding games in the future.

Then what happens to: 'everything works in both models'?

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Sony seems to be fumbling the ball in the fourth quarter. Blowing an excellent lead.

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Not to mention, Xbox One has three hits coming this month in FH3, Recore and Gears 4. Not good times for Sony.

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I find this very weird.

Why are they in "Panic" mode? They are essentially in the same standing as Microsoft was with the Xbox 360 last generation. Except in a WAY better condition cause their First Generation PS4s aren't total garbage and didn't break after the first few months. Not to mention nearly EVERY 3rd Party Developer under the sun wants their game on their system cause that's where most of the player base is at and from the looks of it, it doesn't look like they're going to be short of games any time soon.

Sony doesn't even have to worry about First Party Exclusives either cause they have games like King of Fighters XIV and the upcoming Kingdom Hearts 2.8 that just fill in those gaps. They don't really have to try hard anymore. The PS4 has the success of both the Wii and Xbox 360 of last generation being the most Sold and most Popular system on the Market. If anything announcing PS4 Pro is just going to hurt them.

So yeah are they in "Panic" mode? It certainly doesn't seem like they should be if that's the case. Microsoft seems like the one in Panic mode by stating "We have a better system coming in a year so 'hang tight'!" with Scorpio. And Nintendo should be in Panic mode cause their WiiU was a colossal failure, but they're all just super chill and practically just gave up and went mobile.

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#18 silversix_
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Even me, as a cow, don't believe in their product. this is how far we've gotten to, Sony.

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Sony isn't trying to compete with PC, they are scared of losing there fans from switching to PC! Sony knows this but that doesn't mean there in panic mode, they just trying to prevent there fans switching to PC and that's there main concern.

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#20 Flyincloud1116
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@blue_hazy_basic said:

THEY ARE COMING ....

In all seriousness I doubt Sony are shaking in their boots. Market leaders, new SKU's will see sales bump and we have no idea what the scorpio will be priced at. If its $600 I doubt it makes a major impact in the market.

You ranged?

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#21 Dakur
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@PAL360 said:
@dakur said:
@PAL360 said:
@dakur said:
@PAL360 said:

They should have focus on the original PS4, which is a fantastic console, and release a PS5 in 3 years or so.

PS4 have been showing great looking games at pretty nice performances (1080p30 for singleplayer games and 900/1080p60 for most multiplayer ones). PS4 Pro, on the other hand, seems to have no real purpose. It's not powerful enough for native 4K and, for some stupid reason, it's not meant to run ALL games at 1080p60 (what most gamers have been asking for).

Terrible priorities, in my opinion.

PS4 Pro is for VR. That's it. They want to push VR. It also refreshes the brand and will create a spike on sales when it releases.

According to those who already tried PSVR, the main model works pretty well.

Maybe for more demanding games in the future.

Then what happens to: 'everything works in both models'?

Still works but not so well. They can then tell people that they should get a Pro if they don't want so much lag :P. That's how companies work.

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#22 Dakur
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Sony seems to be fumbling the ball in the fourth quarter. Blowing an excellent lead.

They still have great games and I still want a PS4.

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@LegatoSkyheart said:

I find this very weird.

Why are they in "Panic" mode? They are essentially in the same standing as Microsoft was with the Xbox 360 last generation. Except in a WAY better condition cause their First Generation PS4s aren't total garbage and didn't break after the first few months. Not to mention nearly EVERY 3rd Party Developer under the sun wants their game on their system cause that's where most of the player base is at and from the looks of it, it doesn't look like they're going to be short of games any time soon.

Sony doesn't even have to worry about First Party Exclusives either cause they have games like King of Fighters XIV and the upcoming Kingdom Hearts 2.8 that just fill in those gaps. They don't really have to try hard anymore. The PS4 has the success of both the Wii and Xbox 360 of last generation being the most Sold and most Popular system on the Market. If anything announcing PS4 Pro is just going to hurt them.

So yeah are they in "Panic" mode? It certainly doesn't seem like they should be if that's the case. Microsoft seems like the one in Panic mode by stating "We have a better system coming in a year so 'hang tight'!" with Scorpio. And Nintendo should be in Panic mode cause their WiiU was a colossal failure, but they're all just super chill and practically just gave up and went mobile.

You made a great point about MS and Nintendo. MS is essentially going to end their generation next year with a new console. Same as Nintendo. Sony will be the only one with a current gen machine next year. That's not panicked at all.

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#24 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Zero_epyon: You're saying you don't want to see MS and Nintendo not making newer consoles anymore? I mean you do want to see them continue right?

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#25 Zero_epyon
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@davillain- said:

@Zero_epyon: You're saying you don't want to see MS and Nintendo not making newer consoles anymore? I mean you do want to see them continue right?

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that when you see a company starting over with new consoles, then it means the current one was a commercial failure. WiiU didn't do well at all, so NX is coming out at some point next year. It's only one years older than PS4 and Xbox One. Xbox is doing the same and the Xbox One is only about to be three. The PS4 will still exist much further into this gen than the other two.

Doesn't mean they'll stop making consoles. It just means we'll be seeing new consoles sooner than we expected.

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#26 DaVillain  Moderator
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@Zero_epyon: Oh, I see. That makes sense. Hate for ether company to just give up on consoles.

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I don't think they're in a panic, they just don't give a f#€£ anymore since they already milked their fans as much as possible. They know they could release anything and their fans will eat it up. So they're not even trying anymore. Sooner or later more of their fans will realize other gaming companies are really for the gamers and not $ony. Releasing the PS4 Slim then PSVR then PS4 Probe back to back before the year ends shows you that they blew their load and they're cashing out.

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#28  Edited By oflow
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@Juub1990: except apparently power does sell consoles. Sony is leading this gen because they rode MS' disastrous launch with a wave of moar power PR.

They didn't even bring out an exclusive for the first two years they sold 'superior multiplats' marketed as first party and sold tons.

That's why they are panicking because they got blinded sided by their own PR game.

On top of that because they didn't see it coming, they vested in a peripheral and pretty much garaunteed after next year they will be behind power wise for at least two years. They ran up their huge lead in the first two years and could lose it the same way.

The easy way to salvage it is with games but we all already know Sony's track record on releasing games in a timely fashion. Half their announced.games probably won't even come out before Scorpio is released.

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#29 Telekill
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@Juub1990: Thanks for proving my point.

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#30  Edited By Blabadon
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@foxhound_fox: the PS4 is doing well because there's plenty of great games to play it on. Quit your shitty edgelord bullshit.

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@PAL360 said:
@dakur said:
@PAL360 said:

They should have focus on the original PS4, which is a fantastic console, and release a PS5 in 3 years or so.

PS4 have been showing great looking games at pretty nice performances (1080p30 for singleplayer games and 900/1080p60 for most multiplayer ones). PS4 Pro, on the other hand, seems to have no real purpose. It's not powerful enough for native 4K and, for some stupid reason, it's not meant to run ALL games at 1080p60 (what most gamers have been asking for).

Terrible priorities, in my opinion.

PS4 Pro is for VR. That's it. They want to push VR. It also refreshes the brand and will create a spike on sales when it releases.

According to those who already tried PSVR, the main model works pretty well.

as someone who tried it. I disagree. after i tried it, I had 0 interest in it. Before trying i was 50/50 on it. the base PS4 just looks like crap in games

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Announcing a console 50% weaker than Scorpio.

Having no fall lineup.

$10 PS+ price hike while making no improvements to the service.

Blocking Fallout 4 mods just like they blocked giving consumers the choice of EA Access.

They should be in panic mode.

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#33  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Announcing a console 50% weaker than Scorpio.

Having no fall lineup.

$10 PS+ price hike while making no improvements to the service.

Blocking Fallout 4 mods just like they blocked giving consumers the choice of EA Access.

They should be in panic mode.

Those doesn't seem like panic moves to me, more like catbird seat moves.

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Announcing a console 50% weaker than Scorpio.

Having no fall lineup.

$10 PS+ price hike while making no improvements to the service.

Blocking Fallout 4 mods just like they blocked giving consumers the choice of EA Access.

They should be in panic mode.

Those doesn't seem like panic moves to me, more like catbird moves.

Andrew House looked like a deer caught in headlights the other day when announcing the Pro.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Announcing a console 50% weaker than Scorpio.

Having no fall lineup.

$10 PS+ price hike while making no improvements to the service.

Blocking Fallout 4 mods just like they blocked giving consumers the choice of EA Access.

They should be in panic mode.

Polygon worked it out 43 per cent better the Sony PRO based off known specs. Sony giving up a 2 teraflop difference to MS and PS4 beat xbox one with just 500tflops..

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#36 Flyincloud1116
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Announcing a console 50% weaker than Scorpio.

Having no fall lineup.

$10 PS+ price hike while making no improvements to the service.

Blocking Fallout 4 mods just like they blocked giving consumers the choice of EA Access.

They should be in panic mode.

Those doesn't seem like panic moves to me, more like catbird moves.

Andrew House looked like a deer caught in headlights the other day when announcing the Pro.

If that's the case, then they should have just shelved it and released the slim. Don't give up hope yet, then NX will be announced soon and Sony 1st quarter looks crowded. I think the games are ready, but they want to put a Pro touch on them before release.

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@Blabadon said:

@foxhound_fox: the PS4 is doing well because there's plenty of great games to play it on. Quit your shitty edgelord bullshit.

Like? Uncharted 4, Bloodborne and?

Its a fantastic multiplatform console. I've never not said that. But it's exclusive library is the absolute shits.

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#38  Edited By Blabadon
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@foxhound_fox: and you'd be an idiot to think the PS4 is doing well because of exclusives only.

Also, Uncharted 4, Ratchet and Clank, Bloodborne, The Order (haha, except you haven't played it because you're a poor man's PC gamer), Tearaway Unfolded, inFamous Second Son are all PS4 exclusives I've enjoyed. Until Dawn was received well, but that game is butts.

Beyond that, there's games on it and Vita only like Digimon Cyber Sleuth that, for the stupid argument you're making, might as well be exclusive since the Vita has no pull. Games like Odin Sphere have their best versions on the PS4, etc.

I get it, you have to be 4chan's System Wars representative, just don't be so dumb about it edgelord.

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@Blabadon said:

@foxhound_fox: and you'd be an idiot to think the PS4 is doing well because of exclusives only.

I'm not sure where I said that. It's obviously doing well because of the marketing and hype built up before it's release and the plethora of multiplatform content... but to anyone who plays multiplats on PC, it's a terrible console to want to own.

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Announcing a console 50% weaker than Scorpio.

Having no fall lineup.

$10 PS+ price hike while making no improvements to the service.

Blocking Fallout 4 mods just like they blocked giving consumers the choice of EA Access.

They should be in panic mode.

Those doesn't seem like panic moves to me, more like catbird moves.

Andrew House looked like a deer caught in headlights the other day when announcing the Pro.

If that's the case, then they should have just shelved it and released the slim. Don't give up hope yet, then NX will be announced soon and Sony 1st quarter looks crowded. I think the games are ready, but they want to put a Pro touch on them before release.

I think they considered going back to the drawing board. There was clearly something missing from their E3 conference because no way did they originally plan to close with Days Gone lol. I think they removed the Pro reveal from the script after the Scorpio leaks started coming out. For whatever reason they still decided to follow through with a 4TF console. Must have been too late to change anything without losing a lot of money.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Announcing a console 50% weaker than Scorpio.

Having no fall lineup.

$10 PS+ price hike while making no improvements to the service.

Blocking Fallout 4 mods just like they blocked giving consumers the choice of EA Access.

They should be in panic mode.

Those doesn't seem like panic moves to me, more like catbird moves.

Andrew House looked like a deer caught in headlights the other day when announcing the Pro.

If that's the case, then they should have just shelved it and released the slim. Don't give up hope yet, then NX will be announced soon and Sony 1st quarter looks crowded. I think the games are ready, but they want to put a Pro touch on them before release.

I think they considered going back to the drawing board. There was clearly something missing from their E3 conference because no way did they originally plan to close with Days Gone lol. I think they removed the Pro reveal from the script after the Scorpio leaks started coming out. For whatever reason they still decided to follow through with a 4TF console. Must have been too late to change anything without losing a lot of money.

Probably so, but I'll get it and will probably get a Scorpio if it is not over $600.00.

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#42 foxhound_fox
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@foxhound_fox: and you'd be an idiot to think the PS4 is doing well because of exclusives only.

Also, Uncharted 4, Ratchet and Clank, Bloodborne, The Order (haha, except you haven't played it because you're a poor man's PC gamer), Tearaway Unfolded, inFamous Second Son are all PS4 exclusives I've enjoyed. Until Dawn was received well, but that game is butts.

Beyond that, there's games on it and Vita only like Digimon Cyber Sleuth that, for the stupid argument you're making, might as well be exclusive since the Vita has no pull. Games like Odin Sphere have their best versions on the PS4, etc.

I get it, you have to be 4chan's System Wars representative, just don't be so dumb about it edgelord.

Nothing but insults and no real argument. Typical of the Blab.

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Yup, SWs unbiased polls shows it, SONY wins again and it marks the 1st time in console history a professional console is available to the consumer with the PS4 Pro.

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#44  Edited By A-new-Guardian
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The only one's panicking here are the overreacting fanboys in these small bubble forums pretending anything they say reflects what's going on in the real world where In actuality sony is overwhelming MS in every aspect.

Look at the posts in this thread claiming shit and trying to get in your heads while in reality they're the ones in denial and are trying to believe the same lies they blurt out Everyday to themselves and others on these forsaken forums to sleep better at night thinking they convinced someone that their agenda LMFAO don't fall for this clever ruse and narrative they're trying to portray.

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@a-new-guardian said:

The only one's panicking here are the overreacting fanboys in these small bubble forums pretending anything they say reflects what's going on in the real world where In actuality sony is overwhelming MS in every aspect.

Look at the posts in this thread claiming shit and trying to get in your heads while in reality they're the ones in denial and are trying to believe the same lies they blurt out Everyday to themselves and others on these forsaken forums to sleep better at night thinking they convinced someone that their agenda LMFAO don't fall for this clever ruse and narrative they're trying to portray.

No reason to panick just yet, let's see how the ps4 pro sells first.

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@King_Dodongo said:

The slim ps4 is basically a desperate move. NO point in buying one.

What about ~40 million from ~80 million PS3 owners has yet to jump on PS4 era game consoles?

"Your No point in buying one" argument is flawed.

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@commander said:

No reason to panick just yet, let's see how the ps4 pro sells first.

Guaranteed purchase from me if they update Uncharted 4 to 1080p/60fps and Bloodborne to 1080p/60fps as well. 4K is nice but I'm far more interested in the frame rate increase. I sold my PS4 months ago in anticipation of that.

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Okay, #3 and #4 are just speculation. XBone Scorpio's power is rumored and someone speculated that sony is only competing with pc but the fact is that ps4 Pro is purposely being released before Scorpio. If Sony didn't care about XBone competition, the release date wouldn't have been pushed so far ahead. And #7 isn't really relevant at all.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

I find this very weird.

Why are they in "Panic" mode? They are essentially in the same standing as Microsoft was with the Xbox 360 last generation. Except in a WAY better condition cause their First Generation PS4s aren't total garbage and didn't break after the first few months. Not to mention nearly EVERY 3rd Party Developer under the sun wants their game on their system cause that's where most of the player base is at and from the looks of it, it doesn't look like they're going to be short of games any time soon.

Sony doesn't even have to worry about First Party Exclusives either cause they have games like King of Fighters XIV and the upcoming Kingdom Hearts 2.8 that just fill in those gaps. They don't really have to try hard anymore. The PS4 has the success of both the Wii and Xbox 360 of last generation being the most Sold and most Popular system on the Market. If anything announcing PS4 Pro is just going to hurt them.

So yeah are they in "Panic" mode? It certainly doesn't seem like they should be if that's the case. Microsoft seems like the one in Panic mode by stating "We have a better system coming in a year so 'hang tight'!" with Scorpio. And Nintendo should be in Panic mode cause their WiiU was a colossal failure, but they're all just super chill and practically just gave up and went mobile.

You made a great point about MS and Nintendo. MS is essentially going to end their generation next year with a new console. Same as Nintendo. Sony will be the only one with a current gen machine next year. That's not panicked at all.

This x 100!

If someone is panicking then it's MS and maybe Nintendo. Ninty is so afraid of talking about the NX even though it's supposed to come out in half a year (or so). While MS just plain gave up with this gen because they knew they couldn't beat Sony, so instead they're starting a new generation, which is pretty ballsy in itself and I hope they succeed.

I also don't understand why people are amazing that the Scorpio will be stronger, it's over a year away from release, so of course it should be better than what we currently have....it's as if people would be amazed that next years GTX 1180s will be stronger than this years 1080s.

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@killered3 said:

Okay, #3 and #4 are just speculation. XBone Scorpio's power is rumored and someone speculated that sony is only competing with pc but the fact is that ps4 Pro is purposely being released before Scorpio. If Sony didn't care about XBone competition, the release date wouldn't have been pushed so far ahead. And #7 isn't really relevant at all.

Huh? 3 and 4 are pretty much confirmed.