Why is the DS4 battery so bad?

Is that big light on the controller distracting?

@Mr-Kutaragi:

I prefer replaceable rechargeable batteries to built in but also think MS should include them.

Is just useless. I just don't get the point of it and why they don't allow you to just turn it off.

Fixed I've never had much problem with my DS 3 going dead on me why Lemmings think AA batteries are superior............

How is the usb cable lenght compared to the DS3 one? As long as its big I wont have a prob with that. The smal length of the DS3 usb cable was anoying as I couldnt lay down on my bed with it while charging... :(

Yeh, thats much more convenient than an extra pair of charged 2400 mAh eneloops that lasts 3 times longer and doesn't drain for years when not in use .

That awesome build in tech .

As someone that has experience with the DS3 and wireless 360 controller, batteries are superior when it comes to gaming controllers

behind the curve on technology?

integrated hard drive

PC video card

integrated broadband

5.0 GHz wireless

Rumble triggers

Kinect

XBL

300k servers

integrated tv

windows media streaming

all things that MS was way ahead of the tech curve on

Valid point.

I get about 8 hours of heavy-duty BF4 gaming in before I need to plug the cable in.

Is that bad? I honestly don't know. I never really compared to my 360 controller, which was wired anyway.

I don't care though. I love that DS4 controller.

Hell, my iPhone doesn't last that long if I'm not connected to a WIFI hotspot.

Some people here cannot take any criticism towards the PS4.. hella butthurt.

But yeah, I do like the DS4.. the battery is just terrible compared to last gen.. and when i have my PX4 plugged in and needing to charge.. the 2 USB ports at the front of the PS4 are not enough, especially when I need to charge the headset and controller with the sorround sound thingie already plugged in.

Anyways, it's not a major issue, I just hope they release better controllers down the road.

I bought the charging station. It's nice and always have a controller charged. I dont think we'll get much more than 11 hours in the future.

Really because as someone that has experience with the DS3 and wireless 360 controller I have the exact opposite experience. So no they're not, that's like saying the old MP 3 players that used AAA batteries were superior. They're only superior if you're too stupid to remember to connect them for a recharge.

ahahahah just making up stuff to list LOL. ALso add "first console with changing faceplate". The innovation LOL!! Sad that have add pc card and broadband as innovation. And kinect haha now MS was first to have camera gaming, lemming gone mad. Yea, nobody ever use servers before MS... Rumble trigger is gimmick not innovation.

Sorry cannot stop laughing.

@RR360DD: must suck that the xbox one's performance is suffering from a gimmick known as kinect

Please define the difference between a "gimmick" and "innovation".

That list wasn't "made up". They are facts.

Making a console more similar to a PC is exactly the thing that the developers are PRAISING with this generation as it will make development so much simpler. So actually using "pc cards" is a huge benefit to modern consoles...

Mine lasts for probably around 15 hours.

I used it 3 days straight before I had to recharge it.

EDIT: It was dead when I had to recharged it

Not at all, although I'm sure it takes up some battery juice along with the build in speaker, rumble, and perhaps the touch pad.

The DS4 charges fast though, and you can even use a cell phone charger lol.

This doesn't make sense, are you gonna give them to him?

The PS3 controllers did about the same. It's just people being stupid.

or do what i did and get a cheap USB extension cable

Battery life for me is 9 hours and I wasn't even sure if that was fully charged. It is less than my DS3s but if you game longer than that it probably is time for a break.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/01/gamepro-tests-console-controller-battery-life/

19 =/= 6-7.

What if that useless light on the controller burns out?

It might just be your's. Li-ion's are a lottery, especially if the supplier cheaps out on parts.

Xbox 360 Play and Charge kits when they first came out either lasted a good couple years (like mine) or a couple days then died completely.

My 3DS, Vita, Wii U, PS3, smartphones, and PS4 all have internal batteries.

It seems to me that my DS4 charge doesn't last as long as my DS3.... its a non issue for me though, since the PS4 sits on a desk only 2 feet from where I sit. I haven't tried playing constantly from full charge to measure the time... I usually game in spurts... an hour or 2...then have to do something.... come back for another hour or so, and then something else comes up.

because sony is so depraved that they have no problem using cheap and radioactive materials for the ps4.

did you know you can get leds so powerful you can cultivate plants indoors?

but yeah you can also get them with really low power. they are an amazing technology.

and yeah, a few people have said it and you say it yourself - no changes to battery chemistry yet an increase in controller demand for power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DualShock#DualShock_3

Dual shock 3, 300-500mah; DS4, 800mah.

but despite the bigger capacity it has to power more things.

the main problem is slow advances in battery chemistry. apart from including 'more' li ion, how you can increase the battery capacity? also, the controller can't weigh too much, li ion cells cost money, 'more' li ion cells take up more volume.

to really get a better battery in either console, someone has to invent a new type of voltoionic cell with a better milliamp per hour storage density than the lithium ion, not only that - but cost effective and just as easy to implement.

this is why ps4 uses ps3's last gen tech of li ion, and xb1 offers 360's last gen tech, except the play and charge kit is not NiMH any more, it's Li ion. unfortunately batteries are not affected by moore's law.

anyway. maybe thats interesting for some people, and being a hard out 3d modeler i thought some inorganic chemistry might change things up a bit.

You just went full retard - you never go full retard

How so? It cost me £5 to buy the stand + batteries and you don't have to worry about a short USB lead. If you want to game using a wireless controller then batteries are better. What is the point of plugging in a USB lead when you can just use a wired controller and not have to worry about charging it?

Because the controller cost $18 to produce.

So after the xbox one batteries dies in 20 hours what do you do.?

1-Go into a treasure hunt for double A batteries on your home,stripping any TV,DVD or Blu-ray on your way to continue that online section your were having.

2-Go outside side walk into any store and buy 1 pair.

3-Buy a play and charge kit which is $20 on.

4-Complain to god that why in hell MS still not put rechargeable batteries on the controller like sony, because even at 6 hours per charge at least you can still connect the cable and keep playing while you charge it.

That funny i bough more than 3 pairs of rechargeable batteries for my 360 controller since i got mine,these are not the cheap ones that come with play and charge kit or any other sold cheap,yet my DS3 launch controller still has its build in battery working.

Dude complaining about battery life is stupid,just plug the damn cable and keep playing while charging,you don't have to stop playing to charge your PS4 controller just like in the PS3 case.

Gotta turn rumble off? Damn thats half of my feedback in BF4... Rumble is vital for knowing where you are getting shot from, what kind of terrain you are going over, among other things

Intergrated Broadband? eh? 5GHz wireless? Thats called Wireless N and its been around since 2000, PC video card? you'll need to elaberate on that. Integrated HDD? Come on man this should even me mentioned... its a given and has been since the 80's. Integrated TV? no just a push though for TV which you still need your tv box for

hm? i dont play BF, but i dont need rumble to know where im getting shot from, i use sound instead lol. Rumble bad for beast aim.

I played ACIV for 7hrs one day and it still had power left so I guess I've never pushed the battery to its limit. That being said I rarely play game sessions that long anymore.

Plus standby mode still charges the controller so I'm not sure what is so bad about the battery in the DS4.

I agree TC, it's awful. Usage for me is around the 5-6 hour range. Atrocious, to the point that I've bought another controller and a charge station so one will always be ready. I wish the DS4 had recharge paks like the 360s did.

Yea it does knock your aim off somewhat but you get used to it, too me anyway, the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Yea you can do most of this stuff with sound, but its just another way to interact with your surroundings. For example, getting a mobility hit in BF the sounds dissipates after about 3 seconds, yet you care immobile for 7... you only know when you are out of being immobile when the TINY little sign disappears... or rumble stops its very specific set of vibrations. Hepatic Feedback is so helpful, never dismiss it :)