Why is the heck is Xbox 360 still $199 and it's 2015?

This system is almost 10 years old and it only went down $100 in price since its core launch price of $299 in 2005.

Here I am spending money on cables and tools to replace my DVD drive on my aged Arcade 360 because it stopped reading games. When I would have been happy to just replace the console but hell Microsoft offers no value asking for $150 to repair a 360 or $200 for the new 4GB 360.

The Xbox 360 should have been $99 two years ago, and yet you can only see that deal in a blue-moon, doorbuster-midnight-black Friday only moment.

What has happened to gaming? Nintendo and SEGA when they were the top dogs, they never let an old system run this long at a premium price tag.

Because it is M$

LOL

Because people keep buying and Microsoft earns billion profit. So why would you lower your price when its almost same powerful as Wii U but with more games, better games and better online?

because a marked down price would increase sales.

And that's all she wrote. Bad business to lower the price based on what happened in the past instead of what the current consumer market is dictating. Obviously the console is still selling enough at $199.

How do think MS can afford the massive Xboner pricecuts?

We don´t know that if that increase sales. 50 dollar cut wouldnt increase sales since most people already owns system, and who will buy Xbox 360 will buy anyway xbox 360 without looking is this 150 or 200 dollars. Lower price can MAYBE increase sales a little bit but then profit is a lot lower.

but its not.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/gamestop-we-d-love-to-see-xbox-360-ps3-price-cuts/1100-6423751/

There IS a $179 SKU which can be cheaper when you trade games.

I agree it should be cheaper, but this is how Sony and MS are making money right now.

The PS3 is even more expensive than 360.

You can get both used with a warranty for 99-199 respectively

Still good consoles, but at those prices games should be easier to find. It is as if they stop the presses shortly after release. A big release like Metal Gear Legacy Collection should be easy to find if the console is still priced as something being supported.

@c_smithii: $299...? Where did you buy your X360 at launch? I think you forgot $100 dollars some where.

I paid like $429 after tax.

Obviously it's doing well enough at that price point that they don't need to go lower.

There were originally two SKUs, the core SKU that came with no hard drive sold for $299, the other SKU that came with a 20GB drive sold for $399 as the Premium.

If you didn't buy any game at launch I'd imagine $429 would be just about right if your bought the Premium SKU with tax.

Its the question i've been asking myself since 2012 when last gen became an irrelevant POS. Sure the answer is always "to make money LOLOLOL" but it doesn't make any fking sense that these kind of relics are still priced this high (you don't even get a bluray player on 360...). MS/Sony sees how dumb most gamers are with their usual 'specs are not important, games is what matters *implying there's games on last gen now lol*' and abuse consoles popularity to sell em at a premium when shit grade specs like these should be given for free with a purchase of a game for ps4/x1 lol.

Better online?

Besides the recent games most of them would dead

Because they can.

So gamestop decides at what level MS is satisfied with the sales of the 360? Always makes sense to let another company dictate what your company does.............sure.

If it's selling decently, then they won't lower the price. The PS3 is still $200-$250.

because

200 bones ? not bad, excellent opportunity to grab a brand new console, just pull your old HDD and install it in the new one, transfer your licenses and you are ready to enjoy a new console for 4 - 6 years more with tons of reduced Price games newand used.

Gamestop is a retailer, MS relies on it's retailers to move its units. If a retailer reports that their sales for a system has been poorly and believe a price drop would light a fire in the buy of a slow selling product, yes that would dictate that perhaps the manufacture should listen to its retailer.

That's right. I forgot about that. Selective memory I guess. Probably because I would never buy the core. My bad. :p

In theory? Sure. But as I said to begin with, I guess MS is satisfied with the numbers they have been seeing. If they haven't been, they would have dropped the price by now. But what am I saying, its not like its a multi billion dollar corporation with teams of market analysts. We here at SW definitely know better.

Because it's an awesome console with tons of value still left in the tank. It has a great library and plus the entertainment value is awesome as well. I still have it.

MS trying hard to control industry and save face form abortion of X1 reveal.

Slightly off-topic, but since you want to go there. MS being a multi-billion dollar corporation with market analyst as you put it doesn't mean that said company will make all the correct decisions, as in this case not taking advantage of a fruitful opportunity with a price drop of its xbox 360 as one of its retailer Gamespot has pointed out.

Secondly a multi-billion dollar generally ends up losing its main product focus, alienates its consumer base, and sometimes ends up flopping big.

Microsoft made a slue of these mistakes in recent years, one with its Xbox One launch, its mis-mangement exclusive games for the Xbox 360 in it's later years are just two that come to mind that I can go deeper on but we really would be reaming off topic.

Continuing with "off topic" non sense, I find it hard to believe a company like Microsoft got to where they are NOT out strategizing people on an internet forum. I'll gamble on their people over you any day. In fact, as a share holder of both MSFT and SNE I already have

Not sure. but why is the super slim PS4 still selling at $199. Both consoles should be selling for $99 at this point.

Because it's still being supported, and still selling a lot.

Kinda weird because it seems like PS3 and Wii sales dropped substantially after the new gen started, but the 360 still keeps selling a pretty good amount. I have seen it go for $129 though.

Do u mean PS3? Funny how that wasn't included

At $99 MS would have to be able to manufacture everything in the 360 box for less than $60. IMO a retail price of $99 is a little unreasonable.

Yeah...wooops...typing when a little snookered, and tired...so yeah PS3..

I'm of course not sure what their exact BOM price is sitting at. However, 10 years into the generation there is really nothing that expensive in either the 360, or the PS3. I would imagine that $60 price point is probably easily obtained (buying in bulk). I'm guessing a $50, maybe even $40 BOM would not be unreasonable at this point. Pretty much every other console that started out at $299 and up at it's launch was selling at $99 at the 5-6 years point in it's life.

Snookered? You mean as drunk as I am? HO HO HO

Maybe the casuals are keeping demand high.

For example, my PS3 doesn't get that much play time anymore. But, it's used daily (almost non-stop) as a Netflix device. Plus, it's still a darn good Blu Ray player.

Face it, you couldn't refute the article I linked that backs my point that 360 needs a price drop. The only non-sense is you trying to make system wars discussion of consoles seem irrelevant because we're not employees of Microsoft or Sony. Terrible fallacy on your part. You lose. :)

Al the 360 bashing, look up the Ps3 prices.

Even more ridiculous is the prices of their HDDs. It ran me $110 to get the 500gb. Then I also had to pay $20 to get a transfer cable cuz it didn't come with it. For that kind of money the thing should have at least been 1tb.

Same reason PS3 is still $200.

Actually, it does make sense. You do realize Gamestop is probably one of the largest retail partners, up there with Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Target. I'd say their opinion carries quite a bit of weight if they comment on the price desperately needing a cut.

Besides, they aren't dictating anything to Sony or Microsoft. They are just stating the reality of what is happening to the old consoles - which should be obvious.

Used PS3's are still going for $199ish depending on the size of the HDD. I just checked out what new PS3's were going for on Amazon. A super slim 500 GB model is going for $250 by itself.

You could just save up a little more and buy a used PS4..............

You can see the difference of how MS play depending on how it is position and the reason why they should never lead this industry.

MS who was in a good position with the xbox 360 which =.

No sudden price drops on hardware.

Price hike of services without any reason.

Price hike of Games without any reason.

Over priced peripherals.

Over priced DLC.

Disruptive policies toward small developers.

Hiding of free apps under pay walls.

No free games and forcing even developer to charge for things they wanted to give free.

Vs

MS which is not on a very good position now XBO.

Huge price drops few months after launch.

Free games some times more than 1.

Liberation of Apps under pay wall.

Sudden ease of policies against some small developers.

Comparing this gen MS with last gen one is like comparing 2 different companies,desperate MS will try anything to try to beat the competition,but MS in a good spot will do shit and will milk you dry to hell and beyond.

Using trading game as shield is sad you can also trade in games for a PS3.

And the PS3 is more expensive than the xbox 360,but deliver an experience out of the box that the xbox 360 can't match.

Blu-ray still inside every PS3 on xbox 360 you get old ass DVD,on PS3 you get to play all your games online without any more investment on xbox 360 that is $50 a year,so factoring live alone your cheaper XBO 360 all of the sudden isn't cheaper but more expensive.

Both are at $250 for the 500GB models they should not be the same price the PS3 has hardware over the 360 and online free play.

The $179 model is 4Gb the PS3 $199 which is 20 more is 12GB it has 3 times the storage for $20 more,while also having Bluray,and having free online play.

If you add 1 year of XBL yeah your $179 XBO 360 turns into a $229 system $29 dollars more than the PS3 which has more space and bluray.

That 4GB system should be $99 by now considering it has 4GB of storage no free online play and no bluray there is no reason why MS should be selling the system for $179 other than making huge profits out of its system.

No matter what the PS3 has hardware the xbox one just plain doesn't they should not be in equal footing in any bundle.

There were 2 sku on launch 1 was $399 and the other $299 maybe you forgot that..

That sku is now $179 which is miserable $120 less than it was 9 years ago,by this time the PS2 was $99 dollars,the xbox 360 is over priced as hell.

Yeah and the PS3 has extra hardware over the 360 and free online play,yet the difference in the cheap model is $20 and on the 500gb model non both cost $250 when one is certainly inferior in features and hardware as well,since the xbox 360 totally lack Bluray.

I guess that by PS4 you mean PS3,no both consoles should not be selling for $99 the PS3 has blu-ray which still is more expensive than DVD,and the PS3 has free online play which the xbox 360 totally lacks,the PS3 may be a little over priced but fact is compare to the launch 20GB unit it shaved $300 from its initial price,the $250 model has shave $350 from its original price on 2006,the xbox 360 has shave $120 on the core unit in 9 years actually 1 year more than the PS3,the $250 model shaved $150 as well with 1 year more on the market there is no way in hell the xbox 360 on any of its models should be priced as it is,it should be way cheaper now.

The 500GB models of both cost $250 on the PS3 you can watch HD movies and play any of your games online without any more investment,on xbox 360 you have no way of watching bluray movies and if you want online is $50 more which actually make your 360 actually more expensive than the PS3 which is completely stupid and moronic if you ask me.

Any one buying into a 360 now specially those $250 models is a total moron.

IN US world wide the PS3 continues to dominate the xbox 360,in Japan the unit is dead and in EU the PS3 is king vs the 360.

Non of the 2 consoles is selling great they are barely selling at this point sales have hugely drop.

That is a joke considering how many 180 they did because forums like neogaf scorch them in flames over weak ass hardware,crappy ass policies,DRM,no used game always connected shit,MS a company who during the xbox 360 days would not look sideways when news sites flamed them for charging for live like Kotaku and many others did and hiding free apps under pay wall,how budge to sites like neogaf because the publicity was so bad that they sales of the unit were on the dirt.

In fact MS sales didn't pick up until MS took drastic measure and deliver heavy price drops on their units,it was basically been owned even at the same price and with 2 free games.

So yeah what site and internet forum say MS has take it to heart this gen..

It probably makes sense to keep the 360 around but not to make it too good of a product in comparison to the Xbox One.

I also have to agree with others that it is based on competition and there's no incentive to undercut Sony too much on these old consoles. Both companies lost too much money early on in the gen and have to make it up now. I won't accuse them of collusion, but maybe some kind of unspoken truce so both can make up what they lost.

Great job pulling that shit out of your ass. What are you talking about? When did I bring up us not being employees?

I don't need to refute the article because the question isn't do you, me or Gamestop feel the 360 needs a price drop. The question was "Why the hell is the 360 still $199 in 2015?" See, there is YOUR terrible fallacy. I read the titles question and stand by my answer. The fact that A) Gamestop is not the only retailer, ever hear of BestBuy, Walmart, Target and B) MS hasn't dropped the price even with that fuckin article backs up what I said. They obviously don't feel like they need to. If they did, they would have dropped the price already. Nice try, good game, see you out there

Yes to the questions you asked. I am aware that company's take what retailers say into their pricing decisions. But his and my conversation is, like this thread about WHY hasn't 360 gotten a price drop. Not do I feel it should have a price drop. As far as why hasn't there been a price drop, I stand by my answer. Obviously MS hasn't felt the need to as of yet.

If you pay for it... They'll keep doing.