why is the ps3 not selling?

its simple....there are no decent games out at the moment. mgs and lair etc will end this ps3s will kik off. what made the 360 sell? gears...what made the wii sell? its controller

ps3 has so many things going for it just calling it expensive is dumb, i wont be getting one till summer next year couse I'm not stupid enough to buy i nexgen console at full price.

its simple....there are no decent games out at the moment. mgs and lair etc will end this ps3s will kik off. what made the 360 sell? gears...what made the wii sell? its controller

ps3 has so many things going for it just calling it expensive is dumb, i wont be getting one till summer next year couse I'm not stupid enough to buy i nexgen console at full price.

hip-hop-cola

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,003

Its selling fine 

Because it's a crappy console with no games.RaiderCharlie

its not crap.  

In order of importance

1. Washed out colors kill all its games, multiplatforms most of all

2. No AA+HDR

3. Price

4. No games to write home about until MGS4 or FF13 arrive in 2008 or 2009

$600 US.

More overseas. Seriously, Sony.

Yeah, price has nothing to do with it...karicha9

It's not just the price.  It's also less desirable than its competitors.

It's a terribly designed, expensive console with no good games. Why is it so hard for everybody to understand that?

In order of importance

1. Washed out colors kill all its games, multiplatforms most of all

2. No AA+HDR

3. Price

4. No games to write home about until MGS4 or FF13 arrive in 2008 or 2009

 

greg_splicer

stop it, just stop, oh and what do you have to play after Halo 3, I'll tell you nothing.

[QUOTE="karicha9"]Yeah, price has nothing to do with it...Iyethar

It's not just the price.  It's also less desirable than its competitors.

MGS4, 8 days, Killzone 2, FF13,FFV13, White Knight Story, Tekken 6, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, GTA4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Halo 3, Mass Effect, Alan Wake,GTA4, Bioshock, and Gears.

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In order of importance

1. Washed out colors kill all its games, multiplatforms most of all

2. No AA+HDR

3. Price

4. No games to write home about until MGS4 or FF13 arrive in 2008 or 2009greg_splicer

You might want to re-read the specs on the PS3. The PS3 has full support for HDR and FSAA, the latter of which is supposedly applied to old PS1/PS2 games. I can't say much about washed out colors, since I don't own one, but the store models i've seen all seem to display vibrant colors.

I agree that there isn't much available for it right now, though MGS4 is apparently slated for November and FF13 for December. This could always change, but let's face it, none of the consoles started with particularly great launches - i've yet to see a game for the Wii that interests me and the X360 didn't exactly start out with a bang either. I won't even get started on how awful some of the first-year PS2 titles were.

Bottom line?  The first year is meaningless in the long run - if it were that much of a proving ground, the Dreamcast would probably still be around.  The PS3 has only been available for a few months, which means that developers are still cutting their teeth on the hardware.  What we're seeing now isn't what we'll see in a year, making any comparisons to other systems or games largely worthless as far as graphics/capabilities are concerned.

I've got a better question, why is 360 not selling? Its been at the 9 million mark like since christmas last year. SilverGamer99

Is that so? Why then does it sell more than the PS3 has in NA since the PS3 was introduced? Ridiculous.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

In order of importance

1. Washed out colors kill all its games, multiplatforms most of all

2. No AA+HDR

3. Price

4. No games to write home about until MGS4 or FF13 arrive in 2008 or 2009filterpunk

You might want to re-read the specs on the PS3. The PS3 has full support for HDR and FSAA, the latter of which is supposedly applied to old PS1/PS2 games. I can't say much about washed out colors, since I don't own one, but the store models i've seen all seem to display vibrant colors.

I agree that there isn't much available for it right now, though MGS4 is apparently slated for November and FF13 for December. This could always change, but let's face it, none of the consoles started with particularly great launches - i've yet to see a game for the Wii that interests me and the X360 didn't exactly start out with a bang either. I won't even get started on how awful some of the first-year PS2 titles were.

Bottom line?  The first year is meaningless in the long run - if it were that much of a proving ground, the Dreamcast would probably still be around.  The PS3 has only been available for a few months, which means that developers are still cutting their teeth on the hardware.  What we're seeing now isn't what we'll see in a year, making any comparisons to other systems or games largely worthless as far as graphics/capabilities are concerned.

OMG, you make such a great point. Thats what I've been trying to tell these Lemmings, but they're so quick to write off the PS3 when its been out only 5 months and hasn't released its heavy hitting games. I think they're so quick to write it off because they know PS3 will win when it releases its key games and because it has a more international fanbase than 360 does.

It's a great system for people who like giant enemy crabs. ATTACK IT'S WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!1!!11ONE!!Number_1_Gamer

No, just no. :|

[QUOTE="SilverGamer99"]I've got a better question, why is 360 not selling? Its been at the 9 million mark like since christmas last year. musicalmac

Is that so? Why then does it sell more than the PS3 has in NA since the PS3 was introduced? Ridiculous.

Hey dude, in case you haven't noticed. Americans aren't the only people who play videogames;)

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola"]

its simple....there are no decent games out at the moment. mgs and lair etc will end this ps3s will kik off. what made the 360 sell? gears...what made the wii sell? its controller:oops:

ps3 has so many things going for it just calling it expensive is dumb, i wont be getting one till summer next year couse I'm not stupid enough to buy i nexgen console at full price.

Javy03

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,003

Its selling fine

Feb 360 in NA Only: 229k

Feb PS in JPN, NA, And CND: 219k

*Whistles*

PS3's best month with it's biggest exculsives in both JPN(Gundam Musou) and NA(Motorstorm) for the first half of the year...Vs's 360's worst with a multplat and PS2 port^^

It will be back to normal next month^^ Probably even worse. I mean PS3 is getting close to the big 10k in JPN^^ A number only 360 knows lol. 

[QUOTE="filterpunk"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

In order of importance

1. Washed out colors kill all its games, multiplatforms most of all

2. No AA+HDR

3. Price

4. No games to write home about until MGS4 or FF13 arrive in 2008 or 2009SilverGamer99

You might want to re-read the specs on the PS3. The PS3 has full support for HDR and FSAA, the latter of which is supposedly applied to old PS1/PS2 games. I can't say much about washed out colors, since I don't own one, but the store models i've seen all seem to display vibrant colors.

I agree that there isn't much available for it right now, though MGS4 is apparently slated for November and FF13 for December. This could always change, but let's face it, none of the consoles started with particularly great launches - i've yet to see a game for the Wii that interests me and the X360 didn't exactly start out with a bang either. I won't even get started on how awful some of the first-year PS2 titles were.

Bottom line? The first year is meaningless in the long run - if it were that much of a proving ground, the Dreamcast would probably still be around. The PS3 has only been available for a few months, which means that developers are still cutting their teeth on the hardware. What we're seeing now isn't what we'll see in a year, making any comparisons to other systems or games largely worthless as far as graphics/capabilities are concerned.

OMG, you make such a great point. Thats what I've been trying to tell these Lemmings, but they're so quick to write off the PS3 when its been out only 5 months and hasn't released its heavy hitting games. I think they're so quick to write it off because they know PS3 will win when it releases its key games and because it has a more international fanbase than 360 does.

ya so true, and we didnt even see

the next socom, jak, sly cooper, twisted metal, god of war....

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]It's a great system for people who like giant enemy crabs. ATTACK IT'S WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!1!!11ONE!!SilverGamer99

No, just no. :|

 Yes indeed.

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="hip-hop-cola"]

its simple....there are no decent games out at the moment. mgs and lair etc will end this ps3s will kik off. what made the 360 sell? gears...what made the wii sell? its controller:oops:

ps3 has so many things going for it just calling it expensive is dumb, i wont be getting one till summer next year couse I'm not stupid enough to buy i nexgen console at full price.

Acenso

PS3 for March in Japan and NA - 265,098

Xbox 360 for March in Japan and NA - 216,003

Its selling fine

Feb 360 in NA Only: 229k

Feb PS in JPN, NA, And CND: 219k

*Whistles*

PS3's best month with it's biggest exculsives in both JPN(Gundam Musou) and NA(Motorstorm) for the first half of the year...Vs's 360's worst with a multplat and PS2 port^^

It will be back to normal next month^^ Probably even worse. I mean PS3 is getting close to the big 10k in JPN^^ A number only 360 knows lol. 

Hey kid, why're you bringing up Febs numbers when we're talking aboug Mar numbers.

[QUOTE="SilverGamer99"]

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]It's a great system for people who like giant enemy crabs. ATTACK IT'S WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!1!!11ONE!!Number_1_Gamer

No, just no. :|

 Yes indeed.

No, indeed, kid. No, indeed

its simple....there are no decent games out at the moment. mgs and lair etc will end this ps3s will kik off. what made the 360 sell? gears...what made the wii sell? its controller

ps3 has so many things going for it just calling it expensive is dumb, i wont be getting one till summer next year couse I'm not stupid enough to buy i nexgen console at full price.

hip-hop-cola

Virtual Fighter 5 and Motorstorm will send PS3 into Oblivion. 

YEP.

It's all about MASSIVE DAMAGE

YEP.

It's all about MASSIVE DAMAGE

Number_1_Gamer

Fred Flintstone has newer jokes than you.

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]

YEP.

It's all about MASSIVE DAMAGE

bitedcurbnow

Fred Flintstone has newer jokes than you.

The classics never die.

[QUOTE="SilverGamer99"]I've got a better question, why is 360 not selling? Its been at the 9 million mark like since christmas last year. musicalmac

Is that so? Why then does it sell more than the PS3 has in NA since the PS3 was introduced? Ridiculous.

Just means that the PS3 is doing even worse, basically meaning the guy who posted what you quoted self owned himself.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

In order of importance

1. Washed out colors kill all its games, multiplatforms most of all

2. No AA+HDR

3. Price

4. No games to write home about until MGS4 or FF13 arrive in 2008 or 2009filterpunk

You might want to re-read the specs on the PS3. The PS3 has full support for HDR and FSAA, the latter of which is supposedly applied to old PS1/PS2 games. I can't say much about washed out colors, since I don't own one, but the store models i've seen all seem to display vibrant colors.

I agree that there isn't much available for it right now, though MGS4 is apparently slated for November and FF13 for December. This could always change, but let's face it, none of the consoles started with particularly great launches - i've yet to see a game for the Wii that interests me and the X360 didn't exactly start out with a bang either. I won't even get started on how awful some of the first-year PS2 titles were.

Bottom line? The first year is meaningless in the long run - if it were that much of a proving ground, the Dreamcast would probably still be around. The PS3 has only been available for a few months, which means that developers are still cutting their teeth on the hardware. What we're seeing now isn't what we'll see in a year, making any comparisons to other systems or games largely worthless as far as graphics/capabilities are concerned.

That post was way too logical, rational, and concise. Are you sure you know where you are? 

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]Yeah, price has nothing to do with it...SilverGamer99

It's not just the price. It's also less desirable than its competitors.

MGS4, 8 days, Killzone 2, FF13,FFV13, White Knight Story, Tekken 6, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, GTA4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Halo 3, Mass Effect, Alan Wake,GTA4, Bioshock, and Gears.

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What do your opinions about game franchises have to do with my post? 

OMG, you make such a great point. Thats what I've been trying to tell these Lemmings, but they're so quick to write off the PS3 when its been out only 5 months and hasn't released its heavy hitting games. I think they're so quick to write it off because they know PS3 will win when it releases its key games and because it has a more international fanbase than 360 does. SilverGamer99

Really, that's the key issue at the heart of it all. Regardless of technical issues, graphical power, or personal preference, it will always boil down to particular games.

I don't know how many people remember the PS2 launch, but I remember it receiving essentially the same criticisms that the PS3 is getting. Particular developers, like whassisname from the Oddworld series, claimed it was too difficult to develop for. Gamers cried out that it was overpriced and that Sony shouldn't be charging more $$ to push DVD.

Once games like Metal Gear Solid 2 hit, all that stuff went out the window in a very short period of time, and Sony wound up dominating last gen. Was it an issue of system power? We all know the PS2 wasn't the most powerful of the bunch. Build quality? As one of the people who waited in line on launch day and wound up with a "Disc Read Error" model, I'd say no. They managed to succeed regardless of all the rumors, conjecture, and problems, because as gamers, we'll always gravitate towards the system that has the games we're dying to play.

It's the same reason that I received a 360 on Christmas, but already have to send it to Texas for repair. As angry as I am about it, as much as I want to sell it and all the games off in protest, i'll probably keep the system because I still want to play games like Gears of War. Sad but true.

That post was way too logical, rational, and concise. Are you sure you know where you are? D_Znuhtz

Heh! Probably not. I usually avoid gaming forums, mostly due to the sheer volume of childish posts, but I figure there must be at least a few people in my age group hanging around who are capable of writing a complete sentence.

Then again, I also figure that plunging myself into debt and getting my degree in my mid-late 20's is a good idea.

Calling it expensive is not dumb...you can have a comparable gaming experience for $300 less if you buy core.......johngmills

Except that a direct comparison is impossible, since each system has different games available. The 360 has stuff like Gears of War, Dead Rising, etc. The PS3 has Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XIII, etc. The Wii has...well, the only one i'm interested in is Trauma Center, but i'm sure they'll have more down the line. Even if every third-party game were multiplatform, you'd still have Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft releasing their own in-house projects like God of War or Metroid or whatever. The allure of these games is wholly subjective, so "comparable gaming experience" is pretty irrelevant.

price.

If the ps3 was selling at $400 this month due to a special online 1-day offer, with the same game library. You'd probably buy it today. The games is only the 2nd reason.

I'm going to base it to an area I know, my school. Most X360 owners at my school are previously PS2 owners who thinks PS3 has nothing else good to offer compared to the X360. Even they say rather going Wii than PS3. gnutuxgnutux

That's the way it is at my school.  *Come to think of it, I don't think ANYONE at my school has a PS3, everyone I know has a Wii or a 360*

Bottom line?  The first year is meaningless in the long run.filterpunk

I'm not saying that's what'll happen to the PS3, but the first year is important, as in many ways it sets the template for the future of the system.