Why is the Wii hated so much?

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#101 AzatiS
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Because

1) Got amazing games , the best of the best this gen , appealing to all gamers and are exclusive to Wii.

2) Great hardware performance ,with no RRoD or "no true HD" problems.

3) Great new controller that make you sweat while playing. Thats totally unique , and makes you look thiner after an hour or two of any game.It can build strong muscles also.If that not an awesome controller then what?

4) Great sales. The other 2 are way down,into the pit. I mean , even my dog found appealing teh casuality of Wii and bought one.

5) Because Wii got GOTY. Yeah man thats it. What if cows says about 10 on MGS4 , what if x360 says 10 about GTA4 , what if they got 20 AAA games , Wii got GOTY!!! GOTY!! GOTY!! So till the next gen , wii gonna say GOTY.GOTY.GOTY.

6) Price. At first was the main reason that was appealing. Now is still appealing. The next 3 years will be even more appealing with this price (250+$$?). Why? Simply because Wii isnt just a joke company that has 100 versions of Wii , 100 different options. Its the Wii. Its like this. And it costs that much. Even in the next 20 years will cost 250 , for sure. Its the Wii..

7)Cause animal crossing is way too realistic. A developer said is a unigue , realistic world.. And then we have cows and lemmings laughing. Animal crossing is way more realistic than GTA4 - MGS4- GeoW2 - RE5 together..Check the videos.. ....Blind fanboys :(

8) Because with Wii , youre a multi-musician. Wii-music is tah best. I always wanted to be the best drummer, my dream comes true. Even if i hit ...air..who cares. Ill be the best,yeaah!!

9) Because nintendo E308 was the best conference ever in the history of E3, its a fact.

10) If you dont beleive it , check my signature. Youll understand why , her name is Shaun White.Check it. Its a FACT that nintendo brings more smiles ( or make you laugh to death) to more faces or whatever... just..just check the #@$@#$@ link.!!

Wow man , after this i think many here will try to kill me.. :)

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#102 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]What made GC so hardcore?Danm_999

From the hardware perspective, t was developed and marketed as a traditional console which was designed to appeal largely to the established crowd. It also had excellent value for its cost (whereas the Wii has terrible value relative to its hardware).

From the software perspective, the system was riskier and friendlier to the old crowd (I think I can speak in general terms, since Nintendo and its subsidiaries make the majority of decent software for their consoles). From the GameCube era we got great new IPs like Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, a revival of Metroid, a fresh Zelda experience and Animal Crossing. It also maintained good third party support, cranking out the definitive version of RE4, Rogue Squadron 2, Viewtiful Joe, Freedom Fighters, Sands of Time, SSX3, THPS 3 and pretty much all the standard sport franchises.

Alternatively, the Wii has taken few risks, its biggest titles are another Mario game (though admittedly, much better than Sunshine), another Zelda game, another Smash Brothers game, another Metroid game, another Wario game and a series of Mii and non-gamer software that in no way appeals to the former GameCube crowd.

The only real breath of fresh air in terms of software so far on the Wii has been No More Heroes and Zack and Wiki, and that's third party, so I can't really credit Nintendo on that one.

you saying SMG took no risks?

It won GOTY for many reasons. Innovative levels was one of them.

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#103 landzvids
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its to childish

nintendo needs to step away from the family thing alittle

and put out some real games

not this mini game crap

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#104 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]The reason is, most people lack vision, and are the sort of people who would probably eat their seed corn. The people who hate the Wii are the people who seem to have forgotten that there was a time when they didn't play video-games.DireToad




lol

I just love these elitist sheep responses like it's because we don't get it that we don't like it.

or the elitist hardcore mentality that if its not a hardcore game and it doesnt appeal to them then its trash...

see, it works both ways... they feed off of each other




Or maybe it's just that the games that aren't hardcore (whatever that means I could care less about the status) aren't all that good? Ever thought of that?



or maybe you and those hardcore elitist cant comprehend that people have different tastes. ever thought of that.... probably not seeing as you are having trouble understanding opinions...

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#105 DireToad
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[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]The reason is, most people lack vision, and are the sort of people who would probably eat their seed corn. The people who hate the Wii are the people who seem to have forgotten that there was a time when they didn't play video-games.ogvampire




lol

I just love these elitist sheep responses like it's because we don't get it that we don't like it.

or the elitist hardcore mentality that if its not a hardcore game and it doesnt appeal to them then its trash...

see, it works both ways... they feed off of each other




Or maybe it's just that the games that aren't hardcore (whatever that means I could care less about the status) aren't all that good? Ever thought of that?



or maybe you and those hardcore elitist cant comprehend that people have different tastes. ever thought of that.... probably not seeing as you are having trouble understanding opinions...



Ha yes, teh opinion. The SW fail-safe by excellence.

Don't know what to say, find yourself in a rut? Just throw in this buzz word in a sentence and you're all set.
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#106 MangoLlamas
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It's gimmicky controller, underpowered hardware and awful online are the main reasons, I think.Panzer_Zwei
you're way off in my eyes. Bad online maybe but thats it. I think that because Nintendo is a little bit less mature is the real reason. Gamespot only allows 13+ which is why you see so much hate for it.
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#107 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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There's a plethora of reasons to dislike the Wii - a lot of people here, including me, were Nintendo fans even before the Wii.
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#108 zyasun
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#110 flazzle
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There's a plethora of reasons to dislike the Wii - a lot of people here, including me, were Nintendo fans even before the Wii.Stevo_the_gamer

So if you were in charge of Nintendo when designing Wii and launching it, what would you do different? I'm not asking this in an attacking way, just curious.

Like, sure, I wish it had a more advanced graphics card and processor, but if that was necessary to keep the costs down for the motion control technology, I can accept it then.

One thing I wish they would do different is not allow so much shovelware to be released, or have some standard of quality.

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#111 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]The reason is, most people lack vision, and are the sort of people who would probably eat their seed corn. The people who hate the Wii are the people who seem to have forgotten that there was a time when they didn't play video-games.DireToad




lol

I just love these elitist sheep responses like it's because we don't get it that we don't like it.

or the elitist hardcore mentality that if its not a hardcore game and it doesnt appeal to them then its trash...

see, it works both ways... they feed off of each other




Or maybe it's just that the games that aren't hardcore (whatever that means I could care less about the status) aren't all that good? Ever thought of that?



or maybe you and those hardcore elitist cant comprehend that people have different tastes. ever thought of that.... probably not seeing as you are having trouble understanding opinions...



Ha yes, teh opinion. The SW fail-safe by excellence.

Don't know what to say, find yourself in a rut? Just throw in this buzz word in a sentence and you're all set.

QFT

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#112 ogvampire
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Ha yes, teh opinion. The SW fail-safe by excellence.

Don't know what to say, find yourself in a rut? Just throw in this buzz word in a sentence and you're all set.DireToad

you think opinions are something thats used here in SW to save yourself in an argument? wow! :lol:

you really need to get out more... seriously. this is just sad...

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#113 ogvampire
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Eddie-Vedder

um... where's the truth?

pretty any thread except for 'sales' threads are all opinion here... 'game reviews', and 'which system is the best' is all opinion. people that dont realize that seriously make me think that they are still in elementary school.

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#114 DireToad
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[QUOTE="DireToad"]

Ha yes, teh opinion. The SW fail-safe by excellence.

Don't know what to say, find yourself in a rut? Just throw in this buzz word in a sentence and you're all set.ogvampire

you think opinions are something thats used here in SW to save yourself in an argument? wow! :lol:

you really need to get out more... seriously. this is just sad...




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Be sure to attack the other user's IRL situation to make him seem like he takes SW too seriously while at the same time making yourself look cool and uncaring. Hope that he or other people won't notice your 3500 post count and user level 17 or remember you from previous heated discussions.
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#115 Shielder7
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Nintendo failed me this gen, and what they're doing now will determine what I think about buying their console next-gen. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that is thinking this way about them...

sargentbotk

How could it fail you? You knew what you were buying when you bought it a Wii is not a next genation system its about as powerfull as an xbox. You want better 3ed party games get an 360

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#116 DireToad
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

QFT

ogvampire

um... where's the truth?

pretty any thread except for 'sales' threads are all opinion here... 'game reviews', and 'which system is the best' is all opinion. people that dont realize that seriously make me think that they are still in elementary school.




SW fail-safe #3

Question the other user's age and/or education level.
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#117 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

QFT

DireToad

um... where's the truth?

pretty any thread except for 'sales' threads are all opinion here... 'game reviews', and 'which system is the best' is all opinion. people that dont realize that seriously make me think that they are still in elementary school.




SW fail-safe #3

Question the other user's age and/or education level.

SW fail-safe #4

make fail-safe arguments to attempt to negate the other persons respones....OH GOD I'VE CREATED A PARADOX!!!! =p

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#118 BumFluff122
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Most Wii fantacis are those people with friends and lives away from posting on gaming forums and away from addiction to consoles. They are people with plenty of real life friends who enjoy hanging out with them and then coming home and playing a few games of Smarty Pants because it's fun to play with friends and laugh and joke around with eachother instead of yelling at that 14 year old who called you a noob at the other end of the microphone who just mowed you down because he's glitching.
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#119 TAKE_IT_BACK
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its to childish

nintendo needs to step away from the family thing alittle

and put out some real games

not this mini game crap

landzvids

Lets break this down for ya:

Wii nintendo minigame collections

WarioWare

Mario Party

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

nintendo Hardcore games

Zelda TP

mario strikers charged

SMG

Metroid prime 3

Battalion wars 2

Fire emblem radiant dawn

Brawl

Super Paper Mario

MKWii

Hmmm? you were saying?

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#120 mlbslugger86
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maybe because Nintendo completely forgot about regular gamers??

why oh why do we need a wii fit or wii music??

seriously..the system is for non-gamers

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#121 flazzle
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maybe because Nintendo completely forgot about regular gamers??

mlbslugger86

These are the regular games that are regulary on the past Nintendo systems:

Zelda , mario strikers charged, SMG, Metroid prime 3, Battalion wars 2, Fire emblem radiant dawn, Brawl, Super Paper Mario

MKWii, Mario Party, and coming soon Pikman, AC, and Sluggers.

These are ALL games on the GC and/or N64 and/or SNES and/or NES

Isn't 'completely forgot' a bit of an exaggeration?

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#122 mistervengeance
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Mostly just haters who want dumbed down console shooter number 8 million and not something innovative. Most of these people probably think halo is actually a good fps.

The wii is the only console that can actually do things last gen machines couldn't. Other than a fresh coat of paint nothing has changed in 360/ps3 world.

Vriess12

*sigh*, what wii fanboys will say to themselves to justify their purchase.

please note, the bolded/italicized part is in no means true.

the ps3 and the 360 are much more ahead of their predecessors than the wii is ahead of the gamecube.

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#123 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"]

Ha yes, teh opinion. The SW fail-safe by excellence.

Don't know what to say, find yourself in a rut? Just throw in this buzz word in a sentence and you're all set.DireToad

you think opinions are something thats used here in SW to save yourself in an argument? wow! :lol:

you really need to get out more... seriously. this is just sad...




SW fail-safe #2
To be used whenever someone calls you upon your previous fail-safe attempt.

Be sure to attack the other user's IRL situation to make him seem like he takes SW too seriously while at the same time making yourself look cool and uncaring. Hope that he or other people won't notice your 3500 post count and user level 17 or remember you from previous heated discussions.

SW ownage denial rule #1

Create some sort of fake rule set regarding responses from the people that proved you wrong. rinse and repeat until you make yourself look even more ignorant.

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#124 DireToad
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[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"]

Ha yes, teh opinion. The SW fail-safe by excellence.

Don't know what to say, find yourself in a rut? Just throw in this buzz word in a sentence and you're all set.ogvampire

you think opinions are something thats used here in SW to save yourself in an argument? wow! :lol:

you really need to get out more... seriously. this is just sad...




SW fail-safe #2
To be used whenever someone calls you upon your previous fail-safe attempt.

Be sure to attack the other user's IRL situation to make him seem like he takes SW too seriously while at the same time making yourself look cool and uncaring. Hope that he or other people won't notice your 3500 post count and user level 17 or remember you from previous heated discussions.

SW ownage denial rule #1

Create some sort of fake rule set regarding responses from the people that proved you wrong. rinse and repeat until you make yourself look even more ignorant.




Well, that's your opinion.
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#125 Vriess12
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[QUOTE="Vriess12"]

Mostly just haters who want dumbed down console shooter number 8 million and not something innovative. Most of these people probably think halo is actually a good fps.

The wii is the only console that can actually do things last gen machines couldn't. Other than a fresh coat of paint nothing has changed in 360/ps3 world.

Ragnarok1051

I hate the word innovation thanks to Nintendo. Everyone needs to know that everything on the Wii is not "innovative".

Sorry to break this to you but the controls ARE innovative. RE4 is the single biggest step in console action games in 10 years.

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#126 Vriess12
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[QUOTE="Vriess12"]

Mostly just haters who want dumbed down console shooter number 8 million and not something innovative. Most of these people probably think halo is actually a good fps.

The wii is the only console that can actually do things last gen machines couldn't. Other than a fresh coat of paint nothing has changed in 360/ps3 world.

mistervengeance

*sigh*, what wii fanboys will say to themselves to justify their purchase.

please note, the bolded/italicized part is in no means true.

the ps3 and the 360 are much more ahead of their predecessors than the wii is ahead of the gamecube.

In terms of graphics, yes they are farther ahead. In terms of gameplay they are much farther behind (gta4, now that was really innovative gameplay!)

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#127 naruto7777
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its just a bad system
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#128 Syk0_k03r
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cuz all these people are saying its way better than the ps3/ 360 and use its good sales as an excuse...

fact is... it has no interesting games for me, worst online service, worst graphics, and worst amount of features compared to the other systems

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#129 mistervengeance
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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="Vriess12"]

Mostly just haters who want dumbed down console shooter number 8 million and not something innovative. Most of these people probably think halo is actually a good fps.

The wii is the only console that can actually do things last gen machines couldn't. Other than a fresh coat of paint nothing has changed in 360/ps3 world.

Vriess12

*sigh*, what wii fanboys will say to themselves to justify their purchase.

please note, the bolded/italicized part is in no means true.

the ps3 and the 360 are much more ahead of their predecessors than the wii is ahead of the gamecube.

In terms of graphics, yes they are farther ahead. In terms of gameplay they are much farther behind (gta4, now that was really innovative gameplay!)

lol

ok, it seems that nothing i say will change your opinion. i'm happy that you have bought a wii, but you shouldnt' have to lie to yourself to make yourself feel better about buying it over a real current gen system.

games that show this are

dead rising(amount of zombies on screen)

metal gear solid4(environments, immersiveness)

gears of war (graphics and immersiveness)

bioshock(atmosphere)

while all the wii does is take last gen games and add waggle.

the wii's best game, SMG, can be played without any motion sensing use of the wiimote completely. essentially, it's a last gen game. Brawl doesn't even use motion sensing, NMH only uses it as an afterthought...

there are very very few games that actually evolve gameplay around the wiimote, such as warioware and MP3.

you see what i'm getting at here?