I just dont get why MS thinks it's a good value. Is it bcuz of kinect? The ps4 is $100 cheaper and is more powerful and has eyetoy included. Why is kinect so important to M$?
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but to answer your question, its because of build in Kinect 2.0 and the fact that MS wants alot of proft for each console sold.
none of that is even remotely accurateIt takes money to fund a web cam you can't disable linked to the prism program :D
no-scope-AK47
M$ got arrogant and want to shove kinect hardware down their fanbase's thick throats.i dont think the eyetoy is included with ps4.
ZoomZoom2490
Alot of people forget that Sony is a hardware company and Microsoft is a software company, Sony knows how to design/build/produce hardware better and cheaper than other companies.
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Has it been confirmed PS eye wont be included with every ps4? Either way, the ps4 is the better value.Kaszilla
PS Eye is not included with the PS4 - its is a $59 add-on
[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]Has it been confirmed PS eye wont be included with every ps4? Either way, the ps4 is the better value.R3FURBISHED
PS Eye is not included with the PS4 - its is a $59 add-on
yeah and Tretton said that they arent focusing on that but that it is there for those who want that type of experienceBecause it's better.
Michael0134567
Better you say?
PS4 has superior GDDR5 RAM, has 150% better GPU, includes a mic, can upgrade HDD with any brand HDD, and doesn't force Kinect on it's gamers.Â
MS just tried to screw it's gamers over with DRM, online checks, no renting, used game fees.Â
Sony & the media saved your lame butts. I wish you lame Lems had to put up with it.Â
eyetoy is not included in $400 ps4... kinect being 1080p camera it can be $100 more
60 bones for 720p camera then you going have to spend other $30-50 on getting the move controller.Â
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pick your poisonÂ
I really wish Sony & the media would've not made a laughing stock of MS. Then these stupid Lems would have to put up with MS's BS.Â
I really don't get how anyone can still come on SW and say xbox is better than PS4? What a load of crap!Â
Still defend a company that wanted to screw it's gamers over so badly?!
[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]none of that is even remotely accurateIt takes money to fund a web cam you can't disable linked to the prism program :D
R3FURBISHED
What the web cam can't be disabled and microsoft has been proven to be linked to the prism program. So all of a sudden ms is going to have your best interest at heart. If you believe that I have some high quality swamp land to sell you brah.
Not sure if serious. Sony hasn't built quality hardware in over a decade. This isn't the 80's or 90's anymore. Sony and quality are no longer synonymous.Alot of people forget that Sony is a hardware company and Microsoft is a software company, Sony knows how to design/build/produce hardware better and cheaper than other companies.
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crimsonman1245
Because it's an opinion you dipsh!t. Your opinion is NOT going to match what everyone else thinks. Why are you stupid cows so ignorant?I really wish Sony & the media would've not made a laughing stock of MS. Then these stupid Lems would have to put up with MS's BS.Â
I really don't get how anyone can still come on SW and say xbox is better than PS4? What a load of crap!Â
Still defend a company that wanted to screw it's gamers over so badly?!
clr84651
none of that is even remotely accurate[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]
It takes money to fund a web cam you can't disable linked to the prism program :D
no-scope-AK47
What the web cam can't be disabled and microsoft has been proven to be linked to the prism program. So all of a sudden ms is going to have your best interest at heart. If you believe that I have some high quality swamp land to sell you brah.
The web CAN be disabled. You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]
Because it's better.
clr84651
Better you say?
PS4 has superior GDDR5 RAM, has 150% better GPU, includes a mic, can upgrade HDD with any brand HDD, and doesn't force Kinect on it's gamers.Â
MS just tried to screw it's gamers over with DRM, online checks, no renting, used game fees.Â
Sony & the media saved your lame butts. I wish you lame Lems had to put up with it.Â
Lol now I'm a lem.
[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"] none of that is even remotely accuratekingtito
What the web cam can't be disabled and microsoft has been proven to be linked to the prism program. So all of a sudden ms is going to have your best interest at heart. If you believe that I have some high quality swamp land to sell you brah.
The web CAN be disabled. You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? Link please last I heard at the e3 was that the x1 will NOT work without the web cam.It's because Microsoft can get away with everything, if they charge lems for air, Lems will pay the bills
HDMI input Kinect 2.0 (Kinect 1.0 was $149 when it first came out I think.) The Xbox One controller has extra rumble. The controller also connects to the Xbox One via Wi-Fi Direct, rather than Bluetooth. This method opens up a theoretical throughput of 250Mbps compared to Bluetooth's 3Mbps. 32MB ESRAM GravityX
extra rumble lol sorta funny. what is that going add to the cost? 50 cent?
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the controller is connected through the wifi in the xbox? Â sounds like money saving to me. Â Â
Most likely the license fees for the tv service is what did it. The hardware is 350 tops. Sony has better hardware for 400. There is no way a web cam is going to cost 150 beans.Kinect, voice recognition, NFL and FIFA enhancements.
timbers_WSU
Most likely the license fees for the tv service is what did it. The hardware is 350 tops. Sony has better hardware for 400. There is no way a web cam is going to cost 150 beans. v service license? for what? you still need a cable box. instead plugging cable box into the t.v it goes into the X1. it's a fancy remote.[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]
Kinect, voice recognition, NFL and FIFA enhancements.
no-scope-AK47
show me a webcam with a IR/depth in it and can do what the Kinect can do then you can compare it to one
until you work for MS/sony or a developer Wouldn't really talk about how much stuff cost thats inside either console.
maybe you didnt hear about the DRM and the used game debacle. Xbox fans were jumping ship to the PS4 and the X1 was going to die because Lems revolted against it. I swear cows get dumber by the minute!It's because Microsoft can get away with everything, if they charge lems for air, Lems will pay the bills
Davekeeh
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