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Kinect+ Bad yields+ MS huge design+ cutting losses to a minimun.
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I can't believe how the PS4 is so small and still has an internal PSU when it stronger than the xbox one,and i can't believe how MS even with the huge console it has doesn't have an internal PSU,i guess the heat is to great on that chip.
but it's just plastic and it has unwanted government surveillance equipment it should cost less because you have to put up with itIt's bigger  =>
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themajormayor
Bill Gates has no influence on the Xbone or it's policies.bill gates want gamers to pay for the 300 000 cloud computing servers:question:
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]Can't wait to play that on my PC.
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GamingGod999
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I know me too, it's going to be awesome :oops:
Cos it can do more than PS4, including some cool and maybe overlooked features. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/10-overlooked-xbox-one-features-you-should-know-about-1160781 PS4 may have better graphics on the odd game, but the Xbox One will give more people a better experience, but you have to pay for it.tdkmillsy
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What a pathetic list of things,by the way number 2 was reveal by sony before MS even releal its console on February,why do you think the DS has now colors.:lol:
Same reason the PS3 was at launch...gago-gagoAre you serious? The PS3 launched with a Blu-ray back when dedicated blu-ray players cost the same as a console did. PS3s cost $800 to manufacture, while an Xbox One costs less than half. A blu-ray player today costs about $50 from LG or Philips. If Sony invented a 4K / Dolby Atmos format the PS4 would cost $700++ and still sell at a loss, but instead they chose to go the cheap route and stick with old blu-ray tech.
Wow. Even in a top 10 XB1 list they still managed to make sure everyone knows the Wii U is irrelevant.
[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]Cos it can do more than PS4, including some cool and maybe overlooked features. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/10-overlooked-xbox-one-features-you-should-know-about-1160781 PS4 may have better graphics on the odd game, but the Xbox One will give more people a better experience, but you have to pay for it.tormentos
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What a pathetic list of things,by the way number 2 was reveal by sony before MS even releal its console on February,why do you think the DS has now colors.:lol:
There is nothing Microsoft or Nintendo can do to impress you because of your fanboy crush on Sony. So nothing you say matters.[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]Can't wait to play that on my PC. I see cows still need 2 systems vs 1 all these years later. And they're complaining the xbox1 is too expensive when they pay for 2 systems to get xbox games.GamingGod999
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Can't wait to play that on my PC.[QUOTE="GamingGod999"][QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]
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HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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I know me too, it's going to be awesome :oops:
>__< I thought it was a bail out gif.500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$.Â
Actually, quite a few xbox owners ARE interested in the Kinect and its potential games, even if the "uber hardcore" System Warriors tend to not care for it.Something that nobody was asking for.
Kinect.
Cyberdot
These people just don't blog about because they have things like jobs and families which take priority.
Or do you operate under the delusion that video game forums are indicative of the entire xbox consumer base?
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As for the original question asked by the OP: Â
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The Xbox One is "so expensive" because it can be. Â Same reason an Apple laptop can be "so expensive". Â Because people buy a satisfactorily high amount of the product at that price. Â If the Xbox One doesn't sell enough, they will lower it. Â The market determines the price of a good that the public will tolerate, not some magical pricing machine under the product falls under federal price control laws. Â
[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]Good answer ...so online gaming is free on the PS4 you say? Online gaming is free everywhere that isn't a shithole on this Earth.because MS learned alot from its user base? they race to the line to bend over:lol:
OhSnapitz
A phone is a portable device.$500 is not fine in comparison,especially if you don't want kinect or tv crap.Lemmings are basically paying for things they never asked for and that money could have gone to make a better gpu.500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$.Â
Alucard_Prime
Most likely the license fees for the tv service is what did it. The hardware is 350 tops. Sony has better hardware for 400. There is no way a web cam is going to cost 150 beans. v service license? for what? you still need a cable box. instead plugging cable box into the t.v it goes into the X1. it's a fancy remote.[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]
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Kinect, voice recognition, NFL and FIFA enhancements.
k2theswiss
show me a webcam with a IR/depth in it and can do what the Kinect can do then you can compare it to one
until you work for MS/sony or a developer Wouldn't really talk about how much stuff cost thats inside either console.
You can buy a watch with a 1080p cam with IR and 8gb of flash for about 60 bucks but the cam in the x1 cost 100 on what planet ??[QUOTE="Alucard_Prime"]A phone is a portable device.$500 is not fine in comparison,especially if you don't want kinect or tv crap.Lemmings are basically paying for things they never asked for and that money could have gone to make a better gpu. I want Kinect and TV crap as you put it so I want Xbox One, its innovation and offers something different. I suppose the sony fanboys must have asked for the same games with better graphics cos that's all they going to get and that's pretty sad.500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$.Â
killzowned24
v service license? for what? you still need a cable box. instead plugging cable box into the t.v it goes into the X1. it's a fancy remote.[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]
[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"] Most likely the license fees for the tv service is what did it. The hardware is 350 tops. Sony has better hardware for 400. There is no way a web cam is going to cost 150 beans.
no-scope-AK47
show me a webcam with a IR/depth in it and can do what the Kinect can do then you can compare it to one
until you work for MS/sony or a developer Wouldn't really talk about how much stuff cost thats inside either console.
You can buy a watch with a 1080p cam with IR and 8gb of flash for about 60 bucks but the cam in the x1 cost 100 on what planet ?? Have you got any idea what's in Kinect and what it can do. Your comparison actually makes Kinect look cheap.[QUOTE="themajormayor"]but it's just plastic and it has unwanted government surveillance equipment it should cost less because you have to put up with it Plastic costs moneyIt's bigger  =>
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Bigger ~> More massive(maybe)?
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metal_zombie
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150% better GPU
dommeus
Proof?
It's actually 50% better, not 150%.
Also, we know the GPU has 768 cores, which puts it at around the 7750 ~ 7770 level, which is 1.2 TF.
1.8/1.2 = 1.5.
[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]but it's just plastic and it has unwanted government surveillance equipment it should cost less because you have to put up with it Plastic costs money well its not the worth the plastic that it's made fromIt's bigger  =>
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Bigger ~> More massive(maybe)?
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Mass = Stuff
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themajormayor
The web CAN be disabled. You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? Link please last I heard at the e3 was that the x1 will NOT work without the web cam. You can shut it off in the options. It's a well known fact and has been said several times.[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]
What the web cam can't be disabled and microsoft has been proven to be linked to the prism program. So all of a sudden ms is going to have your best interest at heart. If you believe that I have some high quality swamp land to sell you brah.
no-scope-AK47
Because M$ are known to be greedy? Just look at the 360 where they designed the system on purpose without a hard drive and made the hard drive proprietary which cost like$100 for just 20gb.killzowned24So Sony, which charged $600+ for a console, is not known for being greedy? Cows == lame
[QUOTE="Alucard_Prime"]A phone is a portable device.$500 is not fine in comparison,especially if you don't want kinect or tv crap.Lemmings are basically paying for things they never asked for and that money could have gone to make a better gpu. A phone is something that will get replaced 3-4 times in the span of 5-7 years. You're right you can't compare because you'll spend a hell of a lot more on a replaceable phone than you would a console. Thanks for making our point true dipsh!t.500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$.Â
killzowned24
I really dont get it....its not THAT much more expensive. and the kinnect is the explanation for that price.
All the people saying you didnt ask for a kinect....that argument is ridiculous. Dont like it dont buy it is the only logical argument.
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