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#51 KungfuKitten
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They have to fund the adservers.

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#52 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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dgf.

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#53 Duckyindiana
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Being that you're a cow why do you give a sh!t?
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#54 pc-ps360
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bill gates want gamers to pay for the 300 000 cloud computing servers:question:

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dgf.

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#56 themajormayor
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It's bigger  =>

 

Bigger ~> More massive(maybe)?

 

Mass = Stuff

 

Stuff = money

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#57 tormentos
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Kinect+ Bad yields+ MS huge design+ cutting losses to a minimun.

 

I can't believe how the PS4 is so small and still has an internal PSU when it stronger than the xbox one,and i can't believe how MS even with the huge console it has doesn't have an internal PSU,i guess the heat is to great on that chip.

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#58 metal_zombie
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It's bigger  =>

 

Bigger ~> More massive(maybe)?

 

Mass = Stuff

 

Stuff = money

themajormayor
but it's just plastic and it has unwanted government surveillance equipment it should cost less because you have to put up with it
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#59 trugs26
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The PS Eye is $60, so if included, PS4 is $460. I guess the Kinect tech is much better than the Eye which might explain the $40 difference. 

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#60 The_Gaming_Baby
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I'd imagine it is because of the Kinect camera and the television capabilities

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#61 tdkmillsy
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Cos it can do more than PS4, including some cool and maybe overlooked features. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/10-overlooked-xbox-one-features-you-should-know-about-1160781 PS4 may have better graphics on the odd game, but the Xbox One will give more people a better experience, but you have to pay for it.
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#62 parkurtommo
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Same reason the PS3 was at launch...gago-gago
Nope.
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#63 parkurtommo
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bill gates want gamers to pay for the 300 000 cloud computing servers:question:

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Bill Gates has no influence on the Xbone or it's policies.
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dgf.

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Can't wait to play that on my PC.
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#65 Jack-Burton
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You're are paying for a slice of heaven... i.e The Cloud.
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#66 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

dgf.

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Can't wait to play that on my PC.

 

I know me too, it's going to be awesome :oops:

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#67 rell84
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its not because of the hardware thats for sure never owned any ms consoles and wont start now :lol:

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#68 tormentos
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Cos it can do more than PS4, including some cool and maybe overlooked features. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/10-overlooked-xbox-one-features-you-should-know-about-1160781 PS4 may have better graphics on the odd game, but the Xbox One will give more people a better experience, but you have to pay for it.tdkmillsy

 

What a pathetic list of things,by the way number 2 was reveal by sony before MS even releal its console on February,why do you think the DS has now colors.:lol:

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#69 CallOfDutyRulez
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Kinect hardware, R&D costs to improve kinect, and poor manufacturing yields.

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#70 Mozelleple112
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Same reason the PS3 was at launch...gago-gago
Are you serious? The PS3 launched with a Blu-ray back when dedicated blu-ray players cost the same as a console did. PS3s cost $800 to manufacture, while an Xbox One costs less than half. A blu-ray player today costs about $50 from LG or Philips. If Sony invented a 4K / Dolby Atmos format the PS4 would cost $700++ and still sell at a loss, but instead they chose to go the cheap route and stick with old blu-ray tech.
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#71 timbers_WSU
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Wow. Even in a top 10 XB1 list they still managed to make sure everyone knows the Wii U is irrelevant.

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#72 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]Cos it can do more than PS4, including some cool and maybe overlooked features. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/10-overlooked-xbox-one-features-you-should-know-about-1160781 PS4 may have better graphics on the odd game, but the Xbox One will give more people a better experience, but you have to pay for it.tormentos

 

What a pathetic list of things,by the way number 2 was reveal by sony before MS even releal its console on February,why do you think the DS has now colors.:lol:

There is nothing Microsoft or Nintendo can do to impress you because of your fanboy crush on Sony. So nothing you say matters.
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#73 freedomfreak
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I'm not bothered with it. I bought a ps3 at launch. It was 100euros more and it had pretty much nothing to offer.
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#74 WeepsForFools
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$599
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#75 FPSfan1985
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sdram + kinect. Remove kinect and you have a $400 console. Remove both you have a $300 console.
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#76 SKaREO
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Because they know anyone stupid enough to buy one is stupid enough to overpay for it.
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#77 WeepsForFools
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

dgf.

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Can't wait to play that on my PC.

I see cows still need 2 systems vs 1 all these years later. And they're complaining the xbox1 is too expensive when they pay for 2 systems to get xbox games.
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#78 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"][QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

dgf.

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Can't wait to play that on my PC.

 

I know me too, it's going to be awesome :oops:

>__< I thought it was a bail out gif.

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#79 killzowned24
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Because M$ are known to be greedy? Just look at the 360 where they designed the system on purpose without a hard drive and made the hard drive proprietary which cost like$100 for just 20gb.
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#80 Alucard_Prime
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500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$. 

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#81 Bruin1986
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Something that nobody was asking for.

Kinect.

Cyberdot

Actually, quite a few xbox owners ARE interested in the Kinect and its potential games, even if the "uber hardcore" System Warriors tend to not care for it.

These people just don't blog about because they have things like jobs and families which take priority.

Or do you operate under the delusion that video game forums are indicative of the entire xbox consumer base?

 

As for the original question asked by the OP:  

 

The Xbox One is "so expensive" because it can be.  Same reason an Apple laptop can be "so expensive".  Because people buy a satisfactorily high amount of the product at that price.  If the Xbox One doesn't sell enough, they will lower it.  The market determines the price of a good that the public will tolerate, not some magical pricing machine under the product falls under federal price control laws.  

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#82 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

because MS learned alot from its user base? they race to the line to bend over:lol:

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Good answer

...so online gaming is free on the PS4 you say?
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#83 SKaREO
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[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

because MS learned alot from its user base? they race to the line to bend over:lol:

OhSnapitz
Good answer

...so online gaming is free on the PS4 you say?

Online gaming is free everywhere that isn't a shithole on this Earth.
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#84 killzowned24
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500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$. 

Alucard_Prime
A phone is a portable device.$500 is not fine in comparison,especially if you don't want kinect or tv crap.Lemmings are basically paying for things they never asked for and that money could have gone to make a better gpu.
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#85 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Kinect, voice recognition, NFL and FIFA enhancements.

k2theswiss

Most likely the license fees for the tv service is what did it. The hardware is 350 tops. Sony has better hardware for 400. There is no way a web cam is going to cost 150 beans.

v service license? for what? you still need a cable box. instead plugging cable box into the t.v it goes into the X1. it's a fancy remote.

show me a webcam with a IR/depth in it and can do what the Kinect can do then you can compare it to one

until you work for MS/sony or a developer Wouldn't really talk about how much stuff cost thats inside either console.

You can buy a watch with a 1080p cam with IR and 8gb of flash for about 60 bucks but the cam in the x1 cost 100 on what planet ??

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#86 tdkmillsy
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[QUOTE="Alucard_Prime"]

500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$. 

killzowned24
A phone is a portable device.$500 is not fine in comparison,especially if you don't want kinect or tv crap.Lemmings are basically paying for things they never asked for and that money could have gone to make a better gpu.

I want Kinect and TV crap as you put it so I want Xbox One, its innovation and offers something different. I suppose the sony fanboys must have asked for the same games with better graphics cos that's all they going to get and that's pretty sad.
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#87 tdkmillsy
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"] Most likely the license fees for the tv service is what did it. The hardware is 350 tops. Sony has better hardware for 400. There is no way a web cam is going to cost 150 beans.

no-scope-AK47

v service license? for what? you still need a cable box. instead plugging cable box into the t.v it goes into the X1. it's a fancy remote.

show me a webcam with a IR/depth in it and can do what the Kinect can do then you can compare it to one

until you work for MS/sony or a developer Wouldn't really talk about how much stuff cost thats inside either console.

You can buy a watch with a 1080p cam with IR and 8gb of flash for about 60 bucks but the cam in the x1 cost 100 on what planet ??

Have you got any idea what's in Kinect and what it can do. Your comparison actually makes Kinect look cheap.
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#88 themajormayor
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It's bigger  =>

 

Bigger ~> More massive(maybe)?

 

Mass = Stuff

 

Stuff = money

metal_zombie
but it's just plastic and it has unwanted government surveillance equipment it should cost less because you have to put up with it

Plastic costs money
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#89 dommeus
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150% better GPU

clr84651

Proof?

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#90 GOGOGOGURT
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You get what you pay for.

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#91 CallOfDutyRulez
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[QUOTE="clr84651"]

150% better GPU

dommeus

Proof?

It's actually 50% better, not 150%.

Also, we know the GPU has 768 cores, which puts it at around the 7750 ~ 7770 level, which is 1.2 TF.

1.8/1.2 = 1.5.

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#92 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]

It's bigger  =>

 

Bigger ~> More massive(maybe)?

 

Mass = Stuff

 

Stuff = money

themajormayor
but it's just plastic and it has unwanted government surveillance equipment it should cost less because you have to put up with it

Plastic costs money

well its not the worth the plastic that it's made from
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#93 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

What the web cam can't be disabled and microsoft has been proven to be linked to the prism program. So all of a sudden ms is going to have your best interest at heart. If you believe that I have some high quality swamp land to sell you brah.

no-scope-AK47

The web CAN be disabled. You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Link please last I heard at the e3 was that the x1 will NOT work without the web cam.

You can shut it off in the options. It's a well known fact and has been said several times.
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Because M$ are known to be greedy? Just look at the 360 where they designed the system on purpose without a hard drive and made the hard drive proprietary which cost like$100 for just 20gb.killzowned24
So Sony, which charged $600+ for a console, is not known for being greedy? Cows == lame
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#95 kingtito
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[QUOTE="Alucard_Prime"]

500$ is fine for all the stuff we are getting, a smart phone at full retail price goes more than that these days. The question I'm asking myself is how come the PS4 is so cheap at 399$. 

killzowned24
A phone is a portable device.$500 is not fine in comparison,especially if you don't want kinect or tv crap.Lemmings are basically paying for things they never asked for and that money could have gone to make a better gpu.

A phone is something that will get replaced 3-4 times in the span of 5-7 years. You're right you can't compare because you'll spend a hell of a lot more on a replaceable phone than you would a console. Thanks for making our point true dipsh!t.
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#96 always_explicit
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I really dont get it....its not THAT much more expensive. and the kinnect is the explanation for that price.

All the people saying you didnt ask for a kinect....that argument is ridiculous. Dont like it dont buy it is the only logical argument.

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#97 clone01
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Just to piss you off.

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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"] but it's just plastic and it has unwanted government surveillance equipment it should cost less because you have to put up with it

Plastic costs money

well its not the worth the plastic that it's made from

Maybe it's extremely luxurious plastic. Handpicked by midgets in Nepal.
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#100 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Plastic costs money

well its not the worth the plastic that it's made from

Maybe it's extremely luxurious plastic. Handpicked by midgets in Nepal.

lol