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#51 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"]
[QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]didnt you read the article guys... its almost completely different from the console counterparts to fit a handheld, its not because wii is weak, they just wanted to do one on a handheldArisShadows

The point is there is no excuse! The wii version will sell better, MUCH better than the psp version!

I disagree,the Elder scrolls is a franchise for mature gamers,it would sell very poorly on the Wii.

Oh excuse me, I go suck on my binkie since it obvious all Wii owners are children.. Mature gamers? I like that.. Explain to me what different from 20 year olds playing Mario, and 20 year olds playing Elders? As one of both, I don't understand this statement.

Look at the Wii/Nintendo's game library,then look at Ps3's/Sony's game library and Xbox 360's/Microsofts game library. This is why it wouldnt sell well on the Wii.

You said Elders Scrolls were for Mature gamers, so that imply those on a Wii are not of that catagory, that what I was trying to show you.

It has to do with the games and image.Nintendo have created an image for themselves whereby their consoles represent "Fun for you and your family",whereas the competition dont even care if your family approves of videogames. This is why 3rd party developers are releasing games on Wii aimed at a younger audience.

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#52 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]

Wii can play GC games perfectly because it's hardware is outdated just like the Gamecube's hardware.

So, if your logic is correct, you would fit in perfectly with a preschool class because you are on their level?

No,my logic is this:Wii can run GC games simply because it's hardware abilities/limitations are exactly the same as hardware released 6 years ago. The main point is:Wii cannot run the latest Elder Scrolls game.

And what I am saying is that you could go to preschool simply because your abilities/limitations are exatly the same as children born 6 years ago. The main point: You are incorrect to believe that the Wii can't and the PSP can.

No,by that logic then Nintendo would be a console for kids then. And we all know how hot this issue is among Nintendo fans :)

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#53 Dualshockin

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"It isnt geared towards the type of people that Nintendo is targetting." ^ That's exactly what i'm saying,Nintendo have adverts whereby a whole family(Including grandfather and grandmother) are playing games. I very much doubt the games they are playing are Rated Teen/Mature.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]No,my logic is this:Wii can run GC games simply because it's hardware abilities/limitations are exactly the same as hardware released 6 years ago. The main point is:Wii cannot run the latest Elder Scrolls game.

And what I am saying is that you could go to preschool simply because your abilities/limitations are exatly the same as children born 6 years ago. The main point: You are incorrect to believe that the Wii can't and the PSP can.

No,by that logic then Nintendo would be a console for kids then. And we all know how hot this issue is among Nintendo fans :)

Ellaborate how a console that has near flawless BC makes it kiddy (note: all 3 have BC, N's is just the best). Yes indeed it is hot.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]"It isnt geared towards the type of people that Nintendo is targetting." ^ That's exactly what i'm saying,Nintendo have adverts whereby a whole family(Including grandfather and grandmother) are playing games. I very much doubt the games they are playing are Rated Teen/Mature.

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Super Smash Bro. Brawl, Project H.A.M.M.E.R., Sadness, and Resident Evil (Whatever the sub. title is called) are all examples of Teen/Mature rated games (unless the pending rating ones prove to be otherwise) on the Wii.

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#56 jessmo30_basic

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"] Wii can play GC games perfectly because it's hardware is outdated just like the Gamecube's hardware.Gamer46

So, if your logic is correct, you would fit in perfectly with a preschool class because you are on their level?

No,my logic is this:Wii can run GC games simply because it's hardware abilities/limitations are exactly the same as hardware released 6 years ago. The main point is:Wii cannot run the latest Elder Scrolls game.

Even if it could, it wouldn't matter, the game wouldn't sell on the Wii, just like a GTA or MGS game wouldn't sell on the Wii. It isn't geared towards the type of people that Nintendo is targetting.

Did Re4 sell well on the GC? did metal gear sell well? what about Re:make, RE:0 Starwars RS2,3? arnt they all either million sellers or close to it. your being annoying. and i will be happy when the wii passes the 360 and the ps3. developers will have no choice. Your Logic isnt Logical.

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#57 lone_wolf911

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[QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"] Wii can play GC games perfectly because it's hardware is outdated just like the Gamecube's hardware.Dualshockin

So, if your logic is correct, you would fit in perfectly with a preschool class because you are on their level?

No,my logic is this:Wii can run GC games simply because it's hardware abilities/limitations are exactly the same as hardware released 6 years ago. The main point is:Wii cannot run the latest Elder Scrolls game.

neither can psp...they are changing the game to fit on a handheld...

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#58 Dualshockin

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Did Re4 sell well on the GC? did metal gear sell well? what about Re:make, RE:0 Starwars RS2,3? arnt they all either million sellers or close to it. your being annoying. and i will be happy when the wii passes the 360 and the ps3. developers will have no choice. Your Logic isnt Logical.jessmo30_basic

1)RE4 sold well on GC because it couldnt be found anywhere else when it released,and from the reviews it was getting,it was clearly one of the best games out on any system at that time.Even I bought it on GC. 2)Wii will pass 360 and Ps3 in the short run,2 years from now I assure you,the sales figures will be very different. Edit:Misread the quote chain.

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Im an xbox360 owner but all this fanboys attacking the wii graphics are pathetic they dont even know what the wii can do graphically numbers mean nothing just give it time, remember some xbox360 launch games? most of those games were ports and the graphics were crap and look now xbox360 has the best graphic in almost all multiplataform and exclusive games. the same is happening to the wii's getting just crappy ports when the exclusive games comes out we will see that the wii is capable of good graphics, not good as xbox360 or ps3 but it will make u change ur mind about wii graphics.I hope that the lazy developers stop just porting crappy ps2 or psp games to wii.

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[QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"]Did Re4 sell well on the GC? did metal gear sell well? what about Re:make, RE:0 Starwars RS2,3? arnt they all either million sellers or close to it. your being annoying. and i will be happy when the wii passes the 360 and the ps3. developers will have no choice. Your Logic isnt Logical.Dualshockin

1)RE4 sold well on GC because it couldnt be found anywhere else when it released,and from the reviews it was getting,it was clearly one of the best games out on any system at that time.Even I bought it on GC. 2)Wii will pass 360 and Ps3 in the short run,2 years from now I assure you,the sales figures will be very different. Edit:Misread the quote chain.

If I had the persistance to allow a quote to stay in my sig for 2 years...

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#61 lone_wolf911

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i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fps

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#62 jessmo30_basic

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[QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"]Did Re4 sell well on the GC? did metal gear sell well? what about Re:make, RE:0 Starwars RS2,3? arnt they all either million sellers or close to it. your being annoying. and i will be happy when the wii passes the 360 and the ps3. developers will have no choice. Your Logic isnt Logical.Dualshockin

1)RE4 sold well on GC because it couldnt be found anywhere else when it released,and from the reviews it was getting,it was clearly one of the best games out on any system at that time.Even I bought it on GC. 2)Wii will pass 360 and Ps3 in the short run,2 years from now I assure you,the sales figures will be very different. Edit:Misread the quote chain.

Dude No console has ever came back from a 10 million point lead. If ps3 continues to sell bad it will lose exclusives like devil may cry and ace combat. The sales will get lower and the exodus of developers will grow. Once you start lagging in this industry your in alot of trouble.

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#63 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]No,my logic is this:Wii can run GC games simply because it's hardware abilities/limitations are exactly the same as hardware released 6 years ago. The main point is:Wii cannot run the latest Elder Scrolls game.

And what I am saying is that you could go to preschool simply because your abilities/limitations are exatly the same as children born 6 years ago. The main point: You are incorrect to believe that the Wii can't and the PSP can.

No,by that logic then Nintendo would be a console for kids then. And we all know how hot this issue is among Nintendo fans :)

Ellaborate how a console that has near flawless BC makes it kiddy (note: all 3 have BC, N's is just the best). Yes indeed it is hot.

No,we were talking about logic I believe?And by your logic,Nintendo would be a console maker for the kids. I really dont see why Wii BC is being used as a defending point,imo,the only games on GC worth owning are Resi4,Metroid Prime,Eternal Darkness,Smash Brothers,and LOZ:WW.(I own Resi4,Metroid,and LOZ:WW)

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#65 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"]Did Re4 sell well on the GC? did metal gear sell well? what about Re:make, RE:0 Starwars RS2,3? arnt they all either million sellers or close to it. your being annoying. and i will be happy when the wii passes the 360 and the ps3. developers will have no choice. Your Logic isnt Logical.jessmo30_basic

1)RE4 sold well on GC because it couldnt be found anywhere else when it released,and from the reviews it was getting,it was clearly one of the best games out on any system at that time.Even I bought it on GC. 2)Wii will pass 360 and Ps3 in the short run,2 years from now I assure you,the sales figures will be very different. Edit:Misread the quote chain.

Dude No console has ever came back from a 10 million point lead. If ps3 continues to sell bad it will lose exclusives like devil may cry and ace combat. The sales will get lower and the exodus of developers will grow. Once you start lagging in this industry your in alot of trouble.

Wait a minute,didnt GC sell 20 million?And Xbox 25 million?My point:10 million in sales is absolutely nothing to boast about,Ps2 sold 120 million consoles( to date) DMC and Ace Combat arent mega selling games(They sell the same as Dead Rising and Lost Planet),these are games Sony can afford losing.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]No,by that logic then Nintendo would be a console for kids then. And we all know how hot this issue is among Nintendo fans :)

Ellaborate how a console that has near flawless BC makes it kiddy (note: all 3 have BC, N's is just the best). Yes indeed it is hot.

No,we were talking about logic I believe?And by your logic,Nintendo would be a console maker for the kids. I really dont see why Wii BC is being used as a defending point,imo,the only games on GC worth owning are Resi4,Metroid Prime,Eternal Darkness,Smash Brothers,and LOZ:WW.(I own Resi4,Metroid,and LOZ:WW)

Here are 3 things we need to discuss: 1. You need to own Melee. 2. I still don't get what you are saying 3. Why is your name Dualshockin but User Icon a sixaxis,which niether shocks or rumbles?

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#67 Dualshockin

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i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpslone_wolf911

Strangely enough,MGS on PsP looks similar if not better than most Wii games..............

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#68 jessmo30_basic

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[QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"]
[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="jessmo30_basic"]Did Re4 sell well on the GC? did metal gear sell well? what about Re:make, RE:0 Starwars RS2,3? arnt they all either million sellers or close to it. your being annoying. and i will be happy when the wii passes the 360 and the ps3. developers will have no choice. Your Logic isnt Logical.Dualshockin

1)RE4 sold well on GC because it couldnt be found anywhere else when it released,and from the reviews it was getting,it was clearly one of the best games out on any system at that time.Even I bought it on GC. 2)Wii will pass 360 and Ps3 in the short run,2 years from now I assure you,the sales figures will be very different. Edit:Misread the quote chain.

Dude No console has ever came back from a 10 million point lead. If ps3 continues to sell bad it will lose exclusives like devil may cry and ace combat. The sales will get lower and the exodus of developers will grow. Once you start lagging in this industry your in alot of trouble.

Wait a minute,didnt GC sell 20 million?And Xbox 25 million?My point:10 million in sales is absolutely nothing to boast about,Ps2 sold 120 million consoles( to date) DMC and Ace Combat arent mega selling games(They sell the same as Dead Rising and Lost Planet),these are games Sony can afford losing.

Dude even square enix is taking a second look at the ps3, that is the kind of attitude thats killing sony.

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#69 lone_wolf911

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[QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpsDualshockin

Strangely enough,MGS on PsP looks similar if not better than most Wii games..............

wiis launch games, and crappy ports right? edit and you are comparing different genres, portable ops to mini games, how many games does wii have like portable ops

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i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpslone_wolf911

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#71 jessmo30_basic

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[QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpsDualshockin

Strangely enough,MGS on PsP looks similar if not better than most Wii games..............

man you are dieing for ownage

Metal gear psp

Red steel for wii

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpslone_wolf911

Strangely enough,MGS on PsP looks similar if not better than most Wii games..............

wiis launch games, and crappy ports right? edit and you are comparing different genres, portable ops to mini games, how many games does wii have like portable ops

Even at that Wii games looks bounds better than ANY PSP game. Even Wario Ware looks better by a miles. It goes without saying.

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#73 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]No,by that logic then Nintendo would be a console for kids then. And we all know how hot this issue is among Nintendo fans :)

Ellaborate how a console that has near flawless BC makes it kiddy (note: all 3 have BC, N's is just the best). Yes indeed it is hot.

No,we were talking about logic I believe?And by your logic,Nintendo would be a console maker for the kids. I really dont see why Wii BC is being used as a defending point,imo,the only games on GC worth owning are Resi4,Metroid Prime,Eternal Darkness,Smash Brothers,and LOZ:WW.(I own Resi4,Metroid,and LOZ:WW)

Here are 3 things we need to discuss: 1. You need to own Melee. 2. I still don't get what you are saying 3. Why is your name Dualshockin but User Icon a sixaxis,which niether shocks or rumbles?

1)I also have SSB on N64,I grew out of it. 2)We need to debate over something else,we cant seem to understand each other. 3)The dualshock was a revolution in gaming,hence,the name pays homage to Sony's achievement.After this gen,the avatar will be the next Sony controller but with the SixAxis name.

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#74 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpsjessmo30_basic

Strangely enough,MGS on PsP looks similar if not better than most Wii games..............

man you are dieing for ownage

Metal gear psp

Red steel for wii

A good comparison: Tiger Woods Wii:

Tiger Woods PsP:

PsP games look similar if not better than most Wii games.

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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]PSP is more powerful than Wii.Dualshockin

A few months ago I would've said otherwise,but after finding out that the Wii graphic processor cost $29.99,it is highly debatable whether or not the Wii is indeed more powerful.

It doesn't cost much to produce a cpu/gpu.

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#76 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpslone_wolf911

Strangely enough,MGS on PsP looks similar if not better than most Wii games..............

wiis launch games, and crappy ports right? edit and you are comparing different genres, portable ops to mini games, how many games does wii have like portable ops

Wii doesnt have many games like Portable Ops because of the hardware limitations(See Splinter Cell on Wii for example). Ps3 has ports as well,and they seem to look fine?

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#77 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]PSP is more powerful than Wii.Arnalion

A few months ago I would've said otherwise,but after finding out that the Wii graphic processor cost $29.99,it is highly debatable whether or not the Wii is indeed more powerful.

It doesn't cost much to produce a cpu/gpu.

It depends on the GPU in question.Obviously,for outstanding graphics,the amount will be much higher than $30.......

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[QUOTE="lone_wolf911"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpsDualshockin

Strangely enough,MGS on PsP looks similar if not better than most Wii games..............

wiis launch games, and crappy ports right? edit and you are comparing different genres, portable ops to mini games, how many games does wii have like portable ops

Wii doesnt have many games like Portable Ops because of the hardware limitations(See Splinter Cell on Wii for example). Ps3 has ports as well,and they seem to look fine?

U're a complete fanboy , are u saying that the wii isnt capable TO run that crappy looking metal gear for the psp. splinter cell for the wii was a crappy ps2 port with new controls.

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#79 Dualshockin

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpsventure00

U're a complete fanboy , are u saying that the wii isnt capable TO run that crappy looking metal gear for the psp. splinter cell for the wii was a crappy ps2 port with new controls.

What i'm saying is Portable Ops looks equal if not better than most Wii games.

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[QUOTE="venture00"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]i'd like to see psp run mario galaxy at 60 fpsDualshockin

U're a complete fanboy , are u saying that the wii isnt capable TO run that crappy looking metal gear for the psp. splinter cell for the wii was a crappy ps2 port with new controls.

What i'm saying is Portable Ops looks equal if not better than most Wii games.

U said because of the hardware limitations. u're trying to prove that wii is less poweful than psp

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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]PSP is more powerful than Wii.Dualshockin

A few months ago I would've said otherwise,but after finding out that the Wii graphic processor cost $29.99,it is highly debatable whether or not the Wii is indeed more powerful.

Enjoy that comment fanboy, cause the psp less powerfull than the ps2, you know where to go form there.

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#82 the-very-best

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PSP has a bigger userbase?

I suppose that would be it, plus it doesn't have a major selection of great titles so they may think everyone will buy Oblivion.

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ist the wii out selling the psp? whats the problem?
http://psp.ign.com/articles/738/738327p1.html
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its going to be an isometric load of booon probably

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Read the first answer ... " Todd Howard: Different game, different approach"

It aint a fully-fledged port ...

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#85 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc

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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]PSP is more powerful than Wii.xxThyLordxx

Ya, you keep saying that..

cant you tell that I am joking.

:lol:

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#86 lucas_kelly

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The PSP version is a compleatly different game to the 360 and PS3 versions. They wouldn't even be able to sell it at full price on the Wii because its designed for a hand held. To put it on the Wii they would have to make a compleatly new version, which they probably cant be bothered doing.

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#87 EmilioDigsIt

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I think its supposed to be like the Elder Scrolls Travelers (or something) series.

Its more Dungeon Exploring than actual free-roam stuff.

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Because the Wii only gets crappy 3rd party titles. Oblivion is a quality 3rd party title.

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ist the wii out selling the psp? whats the problem?

http://psp.ign.com/articles/738/738327p1.html

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because is a handheld version of elder scroll duh! and the psp is more powerful than the wii.

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It's not going to be like normal Elder Scrolls games. It's going to be mostly made up of dungeons and not really a huge world to explore.

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[QUOTE="Gamer46"]
[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"] Wii can play GC games perfectly because it's hardware is outdated just like the Gamecube's hardware.jessmo30_basic

So, if your logic is correct, you would fit in perfectly with a preschool class because you are on their level?

No,my logic is this:Wii can run GC games simply because it's hardware abilities/limitations are exactly the same as hardware released 6 years ago. The main point is:Wii cannot run the latest Elder Scrolls game.

Even if it could, it wouldn't matter, the game wouldn't sell on the Wii, just like a GTA or MGS game wouldn't sell on the Wii. It isn't geared towards the type of people that Nintendo is targetting.

Did Re4 sell well on the GC? did metal gear sell well? what about Re:make, RE:0 Starwars RS2,3? arnt they all either million sellers or close to it. your being annoying. and i will be happy when the wii passes the 360 and the ps3. developers will have no choice. Your Logic isnt Logical.

If you enjoy "games" like Wario Ware, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Cooking Mama, Nintendogs, etc, you should be thrilled when the Wii wins this gen (a point that I won't argue because I think unless MS and Sony announce significant price drops, they're in trouble) because 90% of games you see will be of that ilk. You won't be seeing real sequels to MGS 4, RE 5, GTA IV, and other big third party franchises though. Nintendo doesn't want these kind of games on their system. They've said it a thousand times before, just look up some old interviews with Reggie and Perrin Kaplan or listen to Miyamoto's speech at GDC again.

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My eyes hurt just trying to imagine the psp version...

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