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#1 Second_Hokage
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They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile.

Steam? A service where you can buy games from other (better) developers?:?

I don't understand how Valve is considered top tier...

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#2 GamerwillzPS
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They make good games.

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#3 Inconsistancy
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People love them as a dev, people love the service they provide, and they have 'great' PR.
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#4 parkurtommo
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They make good games.

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#5 Michael0134567
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They create amazing games.

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#7 SuperFlakeman
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Short answer is because the are a private company, they're not an EA or Activision who pump out crap or ruin franchises we love to increase sales.

Blizz was in the top tier aswell but since they became Blizzard-Activision all their games, while still great, have been disappointing.

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#8 psymon100
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I don't understand how Valve is considered top tier...Second_Hokage
It's true, they've done a bunch of good stuff. But I wouldn't label them 'top tier' either. I've seen on the internet many typing about how Valve is #1, feel free - they're an understandable and respectable choice. Just not mine.
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#9 skipper847
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because its better then EA Origin and cheaper and faster and got more deals and alot of games. I like Steam. If everything went digital download for games i would want steam to do it as also very easy to pay as it got paypal too.

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#10 linkyshinks
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Orange Box, Left 4 Dead, not worthwhile, lol
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#11 Second_Hokage
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Orange Box, Left 4 Dead, not worthwhile, lollinkyshinks
Those games are ancient, not even classics, what are you smoking?
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#12 Sword-Demon
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they make great games and have a great service that offers amazing deals.. that's a hell of a lot more than you can say about most devs
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#13 linkyshinks
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[QUOTE="linkyshinks"]Orange Box, Left 4 Dead, not worthwhile, lolSecond_Hokage
Those games are ancient, not even classics, what are you smoking?

"They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile." Someone else laugh at him. edit: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/orange-box-earns-more-than-100-awards
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#14 Second_Hokage
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"][QUOTE="linkyshinks"]Orange Box, Left 4 Dead, not worthwhile, lollinkyshinks
Those games are ancient, not even classics, what are you smoking?

"They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile." Someone else laugh at him.

Left 4 dead and the orange box are not top-notch or worthwhile, you never see them in peoples top list of games this gen. Maybe it comes down to personal opinions, but whats funny is that you thought you were clever and stumped me in my own words, idiot.

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#15 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="linkyshinks"][QUOTE="Second_Hokage"] Those games are ancient, not even classics, what are you smoking?Second_Hokage

"They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile." Someone else laugh at him.

Left 4 dead and the orange box are not top-notch or worthwhile, you never see them in peoples top list of games this gen. Maybe it comes down to personal opinions, but whats funny is that you thought you caught me in some sort of clever way, idiot.

portal, just a small part of the orange box, is in plenty of people's top games of this gen lists. what are you talking about?
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"][QUOTE="linkyshinks"][QUOTE="Second_Hokage"] Those games are ancient, not even classics, what are you smoking?

"They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile." Someone else laugh at him.

Left 4 dead and the orange box are not top-notch or worthwhile, you never see them in people top list of games this gen. Maybe it comes down to personal opinions, but whats funny is that you thought you caught me in some sort of clever way, idiot.

1) http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/orange-box-earns-more-than-100-awards 2) Left 4 Dead received recognition as one of the best multiplayer and PC games of 2008 from various organizations and gaming publications. The game was named the Best Multiplayer Game of 2008 by IGN, GameSpy Spike TV, NoFrag and the prestigious BAFTA. It was also voted Computer Game of the Year by the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences (AIAS). Other awards include Outstanding Achievement in Online Gameplay from the AIAS, Best Use of Sound for the PC and Best Shooting game overall from IGN, Father of All FPS from Nofrag, and the best Cooperative Multiplayer and Shooter of 2008 from GameSpot who also nominated it for Game of the Year.
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#17 campzor
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best pc service free dlc , great fan service. Great games
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#18 Arach666
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They have some of the best games ever made under their belt and the best gaming service in the world,why wouldn´t they be popular?
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#19 Lucianu
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So how big was that rocked you just came under from?

They have some of the best games ever made under their belt and the best gaming service in the world,why wouldn´t they be popular?Arach666

Thus the thread has ben answered.

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#20 Masenkoe
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if Team Fortress 2 is so old and ancient (implying this means it's bad) why do so many people still play it?

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#21 cfstar
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They have some of the best games ever made under their belt and the best gaming service in the world,why wouldn´t they be popular?Arach666

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#22 parkurtommo
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if Team Fortress 2 is so old and ancient (implying this means it's bad) why do so many people still play it?

Masenkoe
It's free. That's why.
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#23 crimsonman1245
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-Steam is a great service

-They make good games

-The treatment of their employee's is incredibly good, basically the opposite of every other big publisher.

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#24 GamerEye
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They just are.

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#25 DragonfireXZ95
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TF2, L4D2 and Portal 1/2 aren't top tier? You're an idiot TC.
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#26 Jebus213
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They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile.

Steam? A service where you can buy games from other (better) developers?:?

I don't understand how Valve is considered top tier...

Second_Hokage
There are better developers that sell games on Steam other then Valve? Who are they? I want to know...
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#27 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="linkyshinks"]Orange Box, Left 4 Dead, not worthwhile, lolSecond_Hokage
Those games are ancient, not even classics, what are you smoking?

Ancient but not classics......lol
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#28 Masenkoe
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[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

if Team Fortress 2 is so old and ancient (implying this means it's bad) why do so many people still play it?

parkurtommo

It's free. That's why.

People don't keep playing something that's bad even if it's free. Tf2 keeps it's player base because it's a good game.

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#29 freedomfreak
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You make sh!tty threads.

A lot of people like their games.

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#30 Jebus213
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I'm going to translate TC's original post: "Valve doesn't do anything worthwhile on the PS3 other then Portal 1&2. Nothing top-notch from Valve has been released on the PS3 either. Developers who release console ports on Steam are better then Valve."
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#31 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

if Team Fortress 2 is so old and ancient (implying this means it's bad) why do so many people still play it?

Masenkoe

It's free. That's why.

People don't keep playing something that's bad even if it's free. Tf2 keeps it's player base because it's a good game.

I know that but if it weren't free there wouldn't be as many players. Infact the community would probably be halved.
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#32 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"] It's free. That's why.parkurtommo

People don't keep playing something that's bad even if it's free. Tf2 keeps it's player base because it's a good game.

I know that but if it weren't free there wouldn't be as many players. Infact the community would probably be halved.

Even before the F2P model TF2 was,alongside both versions of CS the most played games on steam,the player number now is very similar to what it was before,only in the first few months(F2P) it was bigger but now it´s about the same as it was,certainly not anywhere near as half.

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#33 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

People don't keep playing something that's bad even if it's free. Tf2 keeps it's player base because it's a good game.

Arach666

I know that but if it weren't free there wouldn't be as many players. Infact the community would probably be halved.

Even before the F2P model TF2 was,alongside both versions of CS the most played games on steam,the player number now is very similar to what it was before,only in the first few months(F2P) it was bigger but now it´s about the same as it was,certainly not anywhere near as half.

Must still be like wut 500 players >.> :P
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#34 skrat_01
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They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile.

Second_Hokage
Portal, TF2 and Left 4 Dead are not only three excellent titles this generation, but recognisably influential ones. The rest is easy: They make great games. Their games are often stand out and influential because of their creative angles. They provide the best digital service available to consumers. They give a damn about the consumer (be it Alien Swarm, free content, TF2 comics and media etc.). They give a damn about developers and creators - they support their toolsets. They give a damn about developers with their digital service - providing a very easy system for them and flexible pricing. Now I don't like Valve nearly as much as I used to, I honestly think they have been creatively limited with Portal 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 and I dislike aspects of Steam, but they know how to cultivate a positive culture, attitude and business. Which is why they're so damn admired and fawned over.
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#35 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Sorry to sound like a broken record, but they make good games.

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#36 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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How are you this misinformed about gaming in general? This is common knowledge here. Yet some how this thread exists.

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#37 SPYDER0416
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They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile.

Steam? A service where you can buy games from other (better) developers?:?

I don't understand how Valve is considered top tier...

Second_Hokage

Left 4 Dead? Portal? Team Fortress 2? The Orange Box (which contained Portal and TF2, along with all of Half-Life 2, one of last generation's breakout hits)?

Seriously?

Or wondering why a unified download and social service for PC isn't a big deal?

TC if you are serious and not trolling, then you are dumber then a sack of rocks.

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#38 kaealy
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]

They have not released anything this gen that can be considered top-notch or worthwhile.

Steam? A service where you can buy games from other (better) developers?:?

I don't understand how Valve is considered top tier...

SPYDER0416

Left 4 Dead? Portal? Team Fortress 2? The Orange Box (which contained Portal and TF2, along with all of Half-Life 2, one of last generation's breakout hits)?

Seriously?

Or wondering why a unified download and social service for PC isn't a big deal?

TC if you are serious and not trolling, then you are dumber then a sack of rocks.

Yeah, I have no love for the Half-life series but I don't see how Valve can't be seen as top tier. DOTA 2 and TF2 is enough to make them top tier in my opinion, I don't dare even ask what people see as top tier if Valve isn't one of them.
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#39 soulitane
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They have some of the best games ever made under their belt and the best gaming service in the world,why wouldn´t they be popular?Arach666
Because one guy on a forum doesn't like them, are you stupid or something?
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#40 tjricardo089
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They make good games.

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You spelled brilliant wrong.

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#41 LegatoSkyheart
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Left 4 Dead 2 and the Portal Games are amazing, yo.

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#42 The_Gaming_Baby
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They choose quality over greed

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#43 linkyshinks
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I we're also talking influence, lets please not forget the AI Director in the first Left 4 Dead, that concept has been taken up by numerous developers since L4D's release. In fact Gearbox's Randy Pitchford has openly said their new Aliens: Colonial Marines game benefited a great deal because of the strides Left 4 Dead made in it's AI modelling.
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#45 PublicNuisance
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Valve has always treated me with respect and offered unbeatable deals. A couple years ago I bought 100 games for $300 in the Christmas sale. Some of them still retailed for $50. Where else on the planet can you get that deal ? Sure as hell isn't on the Playstation store, Xbox Live or Gamestop.

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#46 the_mitch28
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The HL2 series and Portal series are both some of the best single player games.

L4D1/2 and Portal 2 are some of the best Co-Op games.

CS/S/GO and TF2 are some of the best multiplayer FPS games.

Add in Dota 2 and all their previous games, it's not hard to see why. Valve has it all.

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[QUOTE="linkyshinks"]Orange Box, Left 4 Dead, not worthwhile, lolSecond_Hokage
Those games are ancient, not even classics, what are you smoking?

1. Team Fortress 2 and Portal are not "ancient." They came out this gen, to widespread critical acclaim.

2. Half-Life 2, a game hailed by many as one of, if not *the*, greatest shooters of all time, is "not even a classic." What?

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#49 Heil68
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They make great games.
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#50 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Because they haven't made a bad game yet and they provide a wonderful service