Why Konami won't put it's flagship franchise on a Microsoft Console.

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#1 vitz3
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First let's look at all the work Konami has done for Microsoft's consoles compared to Sony's

ALL 360 Konami titles

Rumble Roses XX - FAILED
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 - Multiplatform
Bomberman: Act Zero - FAILED
Dance Dance Revolution Universe - Arcade Port
Hellboy - Multiplatform
Pro Yayku Spirits - Japan Only
Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 -
Multiplatform
Silent Hill V - Mulitplatform
Pro Evolution Soccer 7 / PES 2008 - Multiplatform

Live Arcade Stuff

All ports and cheap remakes... Literally!

SOME PSP Konami Titles

MGS: Portable Ops - Exclusive
MGS: Portable Ops Plus - Exculsive
Metal Gear Ac!d - Exclusive
Metal Gear Ac!d 2 - Exclusive
Silent Hill 0rigins - Exclusive
Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles - Exclusive revamped (pun?) remake with extras like SotN and the original Rondo of Blood on the disc.
Gradius Portable - Exclusive enhanced remix of previous games into one package.
Coded Arms - New Exclusive IP

SOME PS3 Konami Titles

MGS4 - EXCLUSIVE
Gradius VI - Exclusive
Coded Arms Assault - Exclusive
Konami PS3 Action Project (untitled) - Exclusive
Konami PS3 RPG (untitled) - Exclusive

So after looking at this we see a trend. But you might say, "But teh MGS series went multiplat!" I would ask you this. How long did it take for them to go mulitplatform? Regarding Substance on XBOX, We still got it first and ended up getting all that the XBOX got and more on PS2, with a better framerate and better sound.

So we have a few reasons now as to why MGS4 stays on Sony's ship.

1-Konami has strong ties with Sony.
2-Sony is a local company to Konami (japan).
3-Because MGS3 totally went multiplatform now didn't it?
4-Same with Ac!d and MGS:PO. What about the Zone of the Enders series? (not counting the GBA strategy game LOL)

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#2 Darthmatt
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I think 3rd party games are a way of the past, but MGS4 is the result of Old money. Things are set in motion that cannot be changed. In the future it will probably be different as development cost will surely keep going up.
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#3 Panzer_Zwei
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Isn't Castlevania coming to the 360?
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#4 Kaosed
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because sony paid to get MGS exclusive/timed exclusive perhaps

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#5 fanboy999
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Konami is afraid of making too much money off of MGS4. That is the only reason I can see. It will sell probably 2 million or so copies on the PS3 if they are lucky. If it was multiplatform they would probably sell 2-3 times that many. But the money and success scares them. Also, they seem to be putting really crappy titles out for the 360. That is why they don't sell.
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#6 WuTangG
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Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)
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#7 Swift_Boss_A
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Sony & Konami are like really tight, you get me :D

Konami is a loyal games company and they are aware that the Playtation platform has been very good to them for the past decade.

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#8 JiveT
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Dance Dance is Konami's biggest franchise and they have already put out two exclusive titles in the series for 360.

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Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)WuTangG
konami=/=Capcom

STOP :cry:

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#10 locopatho
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They already did lol. MGS2 on Xbox. (Im not saying MGS4 will come to 360)
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#11 Video_Game_King
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Oh, don't forget Konami saying that they won't do it. That's a good reason too.
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Konami is afraid of making too much money off of MGS4. That is the only reason I can see. It will sell probably 2 million or so copies on the PS3 if they are lucky. If it was multiplatform they would probably sell 2-3 times that many. But the money and success scares them. Also, they seem to be putting really crappy titles out for the 360. That is why they don't sell.fanboy999

theres no guarantee they make more money. it could be a fail in the long run. for example vf5 went to the 360 a couple of months after the p3 version and that was a fail.

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#13 vitz3
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Dance Dance is Konami's biggest franchise and they have already put out two exclusive titles in the series for 360.

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JiveT

Like I said. Both are Arcade ports. All the songs on those games can be found in arcades.

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[QUOTE="WuTangG"]Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)flashattackfina

konami=/=Capcom

STOP :cry:

Capcom had just a strong relationship. But oh yeah

Bathesda=/=Capcom

Thats why when Bathesda said Oblivion isnt going to PS3...it kinda did:lol:

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#15 Yellow_Rose
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Sony & Konami are like really tight, you get me :D

Konami is a loyal games company and they are aware that the Playtation platform has been very good to them for the past decade.

Swift_Boss_A

Loyalty+ an empty wallet - an empty wallet

I'm quite sure just like the Sony fanboys in this forum, they thought the PS3 would be selling a lot better than it is.

I'm sure they thought it would have a bigger software attach rate than it does.

And i'm sure they didn't thinking MGS4 would cost so much to make.

.....and again, Sony is not the market leader anymore. ;)

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#16 locopatho
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Sony & Konami are like really tight, you get me :D

Konami is a loyal games company and they are aware that the Playtation platform has been very good to them for the past decade.

Swift_Boss_A

Meh Square were exclusively with Nintendo only for years, then went to Playstation. The guy who made Resident Evil 4 said he'd cut off his headif itwent to PS2, it did anyway. Anything can happen.

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#17 Mad_Rhetoric
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so your saying bomberman is combarable to MGS4?

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#18 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Sony & Konami are like really tight, you get me :D

Konami is a loyal games company and they are aware that the Playtation platform has been very good to them for the past decade.

locopatho

Meh Square were exclusively with Nintendo only for years, then went to Playstation. The guy who made Resident Evil 4 said he'd cut off his headif itwent to PS2, it did anyway. Anything can happen.

But Capcom =/= Konami:lol:

I mean Capcom wants to make money, Konami doesnt:lol:

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#19 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]

[QUOTE="WuTangG"]Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)WuTangG

konami=/=Capcom

STOP :cry:

Capcom had just a strong relationship. But oh yeah

Bathesda=/=Capcom

Thats why when Bathesda said Oblivion isnt going to PS3...it kinda did:lol:

Konami=/=Bathesda

did it ever occur that SONY MAY HAVE PAID FOR MGS4 TO BE PS3 EXCLUSIVE

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cant wait when they announce the official game of castlevania for 360 x)
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[QUOTE="fanboy999"]Konami is afraid of making too much money off of MGS4. That is the only reason I can see. It will sell probably 2 million or so copies on the PS3 if they are lucky. If it was multiplatform they would probably sell 2-3 times that many. But the money and success scares them. Also, they seem to be putting really crappy titles out for the 360. That is why they don't sell.jessie5788

theres no guarantee they make more money. it could be a fail in the long run. for example vf5 went to the 360 a couple of months after the p3 version and that was a fail.

you know what i think more fanboyz just want it on the 360 just cuz it will boost sales or so they hope most just want a hot title so they can rub it in other ppls faces i for one will buy it for my ps3 and if it comes to 360 who cares but if it goes to pc ill buy it then too
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]

[QUOTE="WuTangG"]Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)flashattackfina

konami=/=Capcom

STOP :cry:

Capcom had just a strong relationship. But oh yeah

Bathesda=/=Capcom

Thats why when Bathesda said Oblivion isnt going to PS3...it kinda did:lol:

Konami=/=Bathesda

did it ever occur that SONY MAY HAVE PAID FOR MGS4 TO BE PS3 EXCLUSIVE

I thoughtSony doesn't pay for exclusives. they earn them. ;)

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#24 c_smithii
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Wait didn't MGS2 (the best of the series imo) get ported to both Gamecube and Xbox last gen?

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#25 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]

[QUOTE="WuTangG"]Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)Yellow_Rose

konami=/=Capcom

STOP :cry:

Capcom had just a strong relationship. But oh yeah

Bathesda=/=Capcom

Thats why when Bathesda said Oblivion isnt going to PS3...it kinda did:lol:

Konami=/=Bathesda

did it ever occur that SONY MAY HAVE PAID FOR MGS4 TO BE PS3 EXCLUSIVE

I thoughtSony doesn't pay for exclusives. they earn them. ;)

and you believe that?
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#26 Gam3smar7
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MGS 4 on 360 is only a pipedream from the lemmings :wink:

well, may be at least not after 6 months the PS 3 version is released if that gives lemmings any hope.

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#28 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]

[QUOTE="WuTangG"]Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)flashattackfina

konami=/=Capcom

STOP :cry:

Capcom had just a strong relationship. But oh yeah

Bathesda=/=Capcom

Thats why when Bathesda said Oblivion isnt going to PS3...it kinda did:lol:

Konami=/=Bathesda

did it ever occur that SONY MAY HAVE PAID FOR MGS4 TO BE PS3 EXCLUSIVE

Umm no they didnt...
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#29 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"]

[QUOTE="WuTangG"]Just like DMC4, another fanboy dev whos putting their flagship title on 360;)WuTangG

konami=/=Capcom

STOP :cry:

Capcom had just a strong relationship. But oh yeah

Bathesda=/=Capcom

Thats why when Bathesda said Oblivion isnt going to PS3...it kinda did:lol:

Konami=/=Bathesda

did it ever occur that SONY MAY HAVE PAID FOR MGS4 TO BE PS3 EXCLUSIVE

Umm no they didnt...

how do you know?
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#30 Yellow_Rose
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and you believe that?flashattackfina

Of course. Only MS lies. Sony always tell the truth. :(

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Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

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#32 WuTangG
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how do you know?flashattackfina

How do you know they did:|

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#33 WuTangG
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Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

micky4889

:lol:

You do realise even 800k in sales is a success? Either way, it came out in 2003, when XBOX userbase was around 10mil, and even then, this was an old game rereleased later when NOBODY cared. If you didnt know, it bombed harder on PS2 and PC;)

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#34 Swift_Boss_A
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*sigh* it always comes down to MGS4 with you lemmings. listen what snake has to say in my sig
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#35 c_smithii
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[QUOTE="micky4889"]

Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

WuTangG

:lol:

You do realise even 800k in sales is a success? Either way, it came out in 2003, when XBOX userbase was around 10mil, and even then, this was an old game rereleased later when NOBODY cared. If you didnt know, it bombed harder on PS2 and PC;)

What are you smoking? MGS2 didn't bomb on the PS2.

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#36 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="micky4889"]

Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

c_smithii

:lol:

You do realise even 800k in sales is a success? Either way, it came out in 2003, when XBOX userbase was around 10mil, and even then, this was an old game rereleased later when NOBODY cared. If you didnt know, it bombed harder on PS2 and PC;)

What are you smoking? MGS2 didn't bomb on the PS2.

Im talking about Substance

Heres what has bombed, gaming, yep its dead, thanks to Sheepkids:cry:

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so your saying bomberman is combarable to MGS4?

Mad_Rhetoric

Dude, swiftboss totally copied your sig :|

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[QUOTE="micky4889"]

Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

WuTangG

:lol:

You do realise even 800k in sales is a success? Either way, it came out in 2003, when XBOX userbase was around 10mil, and even then, this was an old game rereleased later when NOBODY cared. If you didnt know, it bombed harder on PS2 and PC;)

it took over 4 years and yet the ps2 sold twice that much in 6 months
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#39 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="micky4889"]

Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

micky4889

:lol:

You do realise even 800k in sales is a success? Either way, it came out in 2003, when XBOX userbase was around 10mil, and even then, this was an old game rereleased later when NOBODY cared. If you didnt know, it bombed harder on PS2 and PC;)

it took over 4 years and yet the ps2 sold twice that much in 6 months

WTF are you talking about:?
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#40 Yellow_Rose
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Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

micky4889

Xbox =/ Xbox 360

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#41 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="micky4889"]

Metal gear solid 2 on the xbox FLOPED

The xbox had over 24 million unints out at the time and the game never got past the 2 million mark just face it 90% of xbox owers just dont like metal gear game this is why konami wont bring metal gear solid 4 to the 360 and why metal gear solid 3 stayed exclusive to the ps2

c_smithii

:lol:

You do realise even 800k in sales is a success? Either way, it came out in 2003, when XBOX userbase was around 10mil, and even then, this was an old game rereleased later when NOBODY cared. If you didnt know, it bombed harder on PS2 and PC;)

What are you smoking? MGS2 didn't bomb on the PS2.

He meant substance

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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Sony & Konami are like really tight, you get me :D

Konami is a loyal games company and they are aware that the Playtation platform has been very good to them for the past decade.

WuTangG

Meh Square were exclusively with Nintendo only for years, then went to Playstation. The guy who made Resident Evil 4 said he'd cut off his headif itwent to PS2, it did anyway. Anything can happen.

But Capcom =/= Konami:lol:

I mean Capcom wants to make money, Konami doesnt:lol:

EVERY company wants to make money :|

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#43 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Sony & Konami are like really tight, you get me :D

Konami is a loyal games company and they are aware that the Playtation platform has been very good to them for the past decade.

Mercenary343

Meh Square were exclusively with Nintendo only for years, then went to Playstation. The guy who made Resident Evil 4 said he'd cut off his headif itwent to PS2, it did anyway. Anything can happen.

But Capcom =/= Konami:lol:

I mean Capcom wants to make money, Konami doesnt:lol:

EVERY company wants to make money :|

According to Cows, Konami are going to let Kojimas fanboyism destroy their company
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[QUOTE="Mercenary343"][QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Sony & Konami are like really tight, you get me :D

Konami is a loyal games company and they are aware that the Playtation platform has been very good to them for the past decade.

WuTangG

Meh Square were exclusively with Nintendo only for years, then went to Playstation. The guy who made Resident Evil 4 said he'd cut off his headif itwent to PS2, it did anyway. Anything can happen.

But Capcom =/= Konami:lol:

I mean Capcom wants to make money, Konami doesnt:lol:

EVERY company wants to make money :|

According to Cows, Konami are going to let Kojimas fanboyism destroy their company

what makes you think MGS4 won't make money on PS3 let me guess its not on teh 360 :lol:

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#45 WuTangG
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what makes you think MGS4 won't make money on PS3 let me guess its not on teh 360 :lol:

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Because gaming is dead and good games dont sell:cry:
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#46 Blue-Sphere
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They can if they choose too do so.
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#47 Big_T-Mac
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its because konami simply doesn't understand that japan isn't the be all end all gaming universe; they are very much stuck in their old, introverted ways. if it wasn't for ddr konami would've died in this worldwide scene by now. mgs series isn't enough to sustain a major publishing company the way konami stands now.
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#48 manicfoot
Member since 2006 • 2670 Posts
Out of the gamers in my social group (there's 8 of us) only 2 of us have PS3's and the rest have 360's/Wii. However, ALL of my friends are planning on buying a PS3 specifically for MGS4. I'm sure that isn't exactly uncommon. MGS4 should sell relatively well.
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#49 locopatho
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its because konami simply doesn't understand that japan isn't the be all end all gaming universe; they are very much stuck in their old, introverted ways. if it wasn't for ddr konami would've died in this worldwide scene by now. mgs series isn't enough to sustain a major publishing company the way konami stands now.Big_T-Mac

Pro Evolution Soccer too. I know Americans prob don't care cos it's soccer but it sells tons.

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#50 Yellow_Rose
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what makes you think MGS4 won't make money on PS3 let me guess its not on teh 360 :lol:

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That game has to sell 1 million copies on day 1 for them to recoup cost.

No MGS games has ever done that.