Why Konami won't put it's flagship franchise on a Microsoft Console.

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[QUOTE="fanboy999"]Konami is afraid of making too much money off of MGS4. That is the only reason I can see. It will sell probably 2 million or so copies on the PS3 if they are lucky. If it was multiplatform they would probably sell 2-3 times that many. But the money and success scares them. Also, they seem to be putting really crappy titles out for the 360. That is why they don't sell.CommanderTy

theres no guarantee they make more money. it could be a fail in the long run. for example vf5 went to the 360 a couple of months after the p3 version and that was a fail.

THIS fanboy isn't afraid of anything accept Sony dominance, 360 failing, hd-dvd failing, and blu-ray dominance. Nintendo and Microsoft dominance are ok though.

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what makes you think MGS4 won't make money on PS3 let me guess its not on teh 360 :lol:

Yellow_Rose

That game has to sell 1 million copies on day 1 for them to recoup cost.

No MGS games has ever done that.

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what makes you think MGS4 won't make money on PS3 let me guess its not on teh 360 :lol:

demonik_360

That game has to sell 1 million copies on day 1 for them to recoup cost.

No MGS games has ever done that.

I heard the same thing with Ratchet & Clank: ToD. Didn't happen

With whatMGS4 is costing Konami, selling 1.6 million copies probably isn't even breaking even.

[QUOTE="demonik_360"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

what makes you think MGS4 won't make money on PS3 let me guess its not on teh 360 :lol:

Yellow_Rose

That game has to sell 1 million copies on day 1 for them to recoup cost.

No MGS games has ever done that.

I heard the same thing with Ratchet & Clank: ToD. Didn't happen

With whatMGS4 is costing Konami, selling 1.6 million copies probably isn't even breaking even.

ima believer =p.

1 million on day one is very possible given the worldwide release.

Kojima & his team are one of the best 3rd party dev right now. That`s why exclusivity or profit didn`t bother them. Because they perfection is no.1 for them. And they believe in PS3. They creating MGS4 with PS3 in mind. Not like 3rd class dev ( EA, Ubisoft,....... ). Quantity come first quality later. That`s why they multipat this multiplat that.....

Besides look at last gen. Very large PS2 users didn`t bother Itagaki / Team Ninja to made Ninja Gaiden & DOA3 exclusive for Xbox. Why ? They want their best work to be in the console they prefer. Same with Kojima. That`s why Kojima / Kojima Productions are similar with Itagaki /Team Ninja. Quality first sales later. Except that Itagaki is an @#%$#%$@......

First let's look at all the work Konami has done for Microsoft's consoles compared to Sony's

ALL 360 Konami titles

Rumble Roses XX - FAILED
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 - Multiplatform
Bomberman: Act Zero - FAILED
Dance Dance Revolution Universe - Arcade Port
Hellboy - Multiplatform
Pro Yayku Spirits - Japan Only
Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 - Multiplatform
Silent Hill V - Mulitplatform
Pro Evolution Soccer 7 / PES 2008 - Multiplatform

Live Arcade Stuff

All ports and cheap remakes... Literally!

SOME PSP Konami Titles

MGS: Portable Ops - Exclusive
MGS: Portable Ops Plus - Exculsive
Metal Gear Ac!d - Exclusive
Metal Gear Ac!d 2 - Exclusive
Silent Hill 0rigins - Exclusive
Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles - Exclusive revamped (pun?) remake with extras like SotN and the original Rondo of Blood on the disc.
Gradius Portable - Exclusive enhanced remix of previous games into one package.
Coded Arms - New Exclusive IP

SOME PS3 Konami Titles

MGS4 - EXCLUSIVE
Gradius VI - Exclusive
Coded Arms Assault - Exclusive
Konami PS3 Action Project (untitled) - Exclusive
Konami PS3 RPG (untitled) - Exclusive

So after looking at this we see a trend. But you might say, "But teh MGS series went multiplat!" I would ask you this. How long did it take for them to go mulitplatform? Regarding Substance on XBOX, We still got it first and ended up getting all that the XBOX got and more on PS2, with a better framerate and better sound.

So we have a few reasons now as to why MGS4 stays on Sony's ship.

1-Konami has strong ties with Sony.
2-Sony is a local company to Konami (japan).
3-Because MGS3 totally went multiplatform now didn't it?
4-Same with Ac!d and MGS:PO. What about the Zone of the Enders series? (not counting the GBA strategy game LOL)

vitz3

If MGS 4 going to be multiplatform, it is going to be after 1.5 years at least after launch on the PS3 and it wouldn't be developed by Kojima which make it completely inferior, and that is a big IF.

I just want Konami to announce what this untitled RPG for PS3, Im so excited for the announcement of this game, I wish it is the next Suikoden.

Kojima & his team are one of the best 3rd party dev right now. That`s why exclusivity or profit didn`t bother them. Because they perfection is no.1 for them. And they believe in PS3. They creating MGS4 with PS3 in mind. Not like 3rd class dev ( EA, Ubisoft,....... ). Quantity come first quality later. That`s why they multipat this multiplat that.....

Besides look at last gen. Very large PS2 users didn`t bother Itagaki / Team Ninja to made Ninja Gaiden & DOA3 exclusive for Xbox. Why ? They want their best work to be in the console they prefer. Same with Kojima. That`s why Kojima / Kojima Productions are similar with Itagaki /Team Ninja. Quality first sales later. Except that Itagaki is an @#%$#%$@......

Foxhound_spy

QFT I totally agree. Itagaki is such an @#%$#%$@. I would kick his ass daily if I met him.

I think 3rd party games are a way of the past, but MGS4 is the result of Old money. Things are set in motion that cannot be changed. In the future it will probably be different as development cost will surely keep going up.Darthmatt

definitely, the only way MGS4 is staying exclusive is truckloads of Sony money.

Kojima & his team are one of the best 3rd party dev right now. That`s why exclusivity or profit didn`t bother them. Because they perfection is no.1 for them. And they believe in PS3. They creating MGS4 with PS3 in mind. Not like 3rd class dev ( EA, Ubisoft,....... ). Quantity come first quality later. That`s why they multipat this multiplat that.....

Besides look at last gen. Very large PS2 users didn`t bother Itagaki / Team Ninja to made Ninja Gaiden & DOA3 exclusive for Xbox. Why ? They want their best work to be in the console they prefer. Same with Kojima. That`s why Kojima / Kojima Productions are similar with Itagaki /Team Ninja. Quality first sales later. Except that Itagaki is an @#%$#%$@......

Foxhound_spy

Lol thats a new analogy...Never thought of it but its a good one.

He half-asses everything he does for microsoft...hardly a fair comparision when you consider all of his major titles have historically stuck to playstation.

Konami can keep their powerhouse franchises off of the Xbox 360 as long as they like. It's just going to come back and bite them in the end.

While I couldn't care less whether or not MGS4 makes its way to the 360 (seeing as I have a perfectly goodPS3 to play it on) Konami is the one that suffers here. The Xbox 360 has the highest attach rate of any system out right now boasting nearly twenty games that have sold over a million copies to date. Many have been new IPs as well, Capcom has done quite well with its new IPs Dead Rising and Lost Planet. Here we have MGS 4, cominga well known, much loved and highly popular series of games. If it was on the 360 Konami could be looking at tremendously high sales. And before you say "Well MGS 2 was on the Xbox and didn't do well!" the Xbox 360 is not the Xbox. In just two years on the market, it has more than double the number of million sellers and greater mass market appeal.

No matter how loyal Konami is to Sony, they would be almost foolish not to port MGS 4 considering the potential return on their investment.