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#51 DaVillain  Moderator
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@GarGx1 said:

There's nothing past tense about Star Citizen or Squadron 42, nor has it stopped growing having recently passed 2 million backers and over $183 million in funding. It now has the second highest development budget of any game, behind Star Wars the Old Republic (another PC exclusive).

Thanks for mentioning that, I need to get back into The Old Republic only because Solo is right near the corner. (I'm just a Star Wars fan drone lol)

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Because the PC isn't a company you can hold misguided allegiance to. The only reason people hype up exclusives is because it validates their chosen company, and choice.

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#53 UnrealGunner
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Last PC exclusive that was massive was SWTOR

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#54 onesiphorus
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How many PC games deserve the hype compared to the many console games?

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#55  Edited By nethernova
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@MirkoS77 said:

The only reason people hype up exclusives is because it validates their chosen company, and choice.

And system. Trying to deny that makes you look silly.

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@tgob89 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

They were hyping Star Citizen as if it was ever going to come out.

They want so bad to have a graphically superior cinematic gameplay experience to call there own.

Will be funny when it releases on consoles, PS5 will be better than most current hermits rigs beta testing the game now.

*cough* The Last Guardian *cough*

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#57 Ant_17
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Cause PC doesn't have a PR company to hype up games.

Phil Spencer could start hyping them in a few months.

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#58  Edited By Epak_
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Star Citizen is being hyped to hell and back. That's about it. The last game was probably Crysis. Maybe SC is the game that finally forces me to build a new PC.

Edit: Oh and while SC is still being developed as a PC exclusive the multimillion AAA scene seems to be dead on PC.

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@i_p_daily said:
@davillain- said:
@zaryia said:

1. PC games don't run off of hype and mass marketing, for the most part. It's more about word of mouth, high retention, and actually being good (Hence destroying consoles at MC and GS on an endless yearly basis.)

2. Huh? CiV, Total War, Divinity, XCOM2, etc. were hyped.

3. As mentioned in number #1, hype means little for PC. The most played games on the planet are a huge list of PC exclusives (LoL, Dota2, Legion,Hearthstone) or PC version of multiplats that were primarily built with PC in mind (CS, Overwatch, PubG, Fortnite). Some Single PC Exclusives alone have more users than XBL or PSN entirely. Hype doesn't matter with those kind of numbers.

And 4. There are so many PC exclusive games and hyping them each and every one of them would be problematic.

For someone who calls themselves a Hermit when exactly was the last PC game you made a hype thread for???

You seemed to entirely skip my post.

PC doesn't need hype threads. That isn't how the system works.

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#60 IvanGrozny
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Because hype threads are for man-children who want to justify the purchase of their cheap plastic boxes.

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#61  Edited By NoodleFighter
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@tgob89 said:

@calvincfb:

You're wrong my friend, the last game hermits hyped was Kingdom Come Deliverance because they thought it was PC exclusive.

Then the hype died a bit when they found that it was multiplat on consoles.

Then they went silent when the game released with no showers of praise because it was a mediocre title and nothing special.

Kingdom Come Deliverance

76 MC

with only 56 critics reviews...and hermits were hyping this as the next coming lol

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/kingdom-come-deliverance

That said:

Generally the reason why PC fans don't hype PC exclusives isn't because they, "get so many amazing games" it's because most of their exclusives are low budget basement projects of 2d indies or some shabby attempt at AAA titles that are unfinished, full of glitches and defects and far below console exclusive quality.

When hermits hype games 98% of the time it bites them in the ass or the games just aren't worth talking about.

Even when Hermits hype exclusive PC games that do end up being good like Divinity Original Sin II or Xcom II....They end up multiplats on consoles shortly after.

lol and I think hermits are slowly beginning to realize that when Star Citizen does finaly release, it's also going to be a multiplat on consoles.

"It'll come to consoles if they're actually any good!"

lol is this consolites new way of discrediting PC exclusives? They're only good if they come to consoles?

If that means games like Rising Storm 2: Vietnam, ArmA 3, Day Of Infamy, Atlas Reactor, Total War: Warhammer 2, Planet Coaster, League Of Legends and etc are garbage then I think most PC gamers would be more than glad to have more of this garbage.

Even if the games listed above do come to consoles they'll still be better on PC and PC has so many games that losing a couple as exclusives doesn't really hurt it. CSGO being on consoles sure as hell didn't stop it from selling over 30 million+ on PC and 99.99% of the playerbase being on PC.

"Generally the reason why PC fans don't hype PC exclusives isn't because they, "get so many amazing games" it's because most of their exclusives are low budget basement projects of 2d indies or some shabby attempt at AAA titles that are unfinished, full of glitches and defects and far below console exclusive quality."

Mindsets like this one of major reasons why PC will always have many games coming to it and most developers preferring it. Most of you console gamers just ride on hype trains for whatever is being mass marketed towards you and has a flashy cinematic appearance/gameplay style. It is one of the main reasons why the AAA industry has been stagnating because you guys keep buying the same shit. It has been stated by many developers that PC gamers are generally much more open to trying new experiences than console gamers. Housemarque is a pretty recent example, they've made nearly nothing but Playstation exclusives for the past decade but now their next title is going to be a PC game because they've noticed that the audience willing to try different experiences is much larger on PC than Playstation.

If a game is good and has potential despite its bugs most PC gamers are willing to overlook its technical flaws. Most of us would rather have a flawed gem like STALKER than a polished turd like COD. Half of Kingdom Come: Deliverance's sales are from PC so I don't see how exactly the hype died down and we went silent. Most reviewers say its a good game only being held back by mostly bugs which are being ironed out with patches. I don't see 76 as a mediocre score either. You can laugh at Kingdom Come Deliverance and Warhorse Studios now but once they improve over time and end up becoming the next CD Projekt Red/popular AAA dev in the industry then you and all the other console gamers will come out of the wood works praising them as the greatest thing ever. Reminds me of when console gamers trash talked The Witcher for being "overly complex" and boring. Makes me realize how many games and developers wouldn't be here right now if they started on consoles.

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PC gamers don't hype shit because their is no hardware loyalty. When you are a console gamer your a prone to hardware loyalty.

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#63  Edited By GarGx1
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@NoodleFighter said:
@tgob89 said:

@calvincfb:

You're wrong my friend, the last game hermits hyped was Kingdom Come Deliverance because they thought it was PC exclusive.

Then the hype died a bit when they found that it was multiplat on consoles.

Then they went silent when the game released with no showers of praise because it was a mediocre title and nothing special.

Kingdom Come Deliverance

76 MC

with only 56 critics reviews...and hermits were hyping this as the next coming lol

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/kingdom-come-deliverance

That said:

Generally the reason why PC fans don't hype PC exclusives isn't because they, "get so many amazing games" it's because most of their exclusives are low budget basement projects of 2d indies or some shabby attempt at AAA titles that are unfinished, full of glitches and defects and far below console exclusive quality.

When hermits hype games 98% of the time it bites them in the ass or the games just aren't worth talking about.

Even when Hermits hype exclusive PC games that do end up being good like Divinity Original Sin II or Xcom II....They end up multiplats on consoles shortly after.

lol and I think hermits are slowly beginning to realize that when Star Citizen does finaly release, it's also going to be a multiplat on consoles.

"It'll come to consoles if they're actually any good!"

lol is this consolites new way of discrediting PC exclusives? They're only good if they come to consoles?

If that means games like Rising Storm 2: Vietnam, ArmA 3, Day Of Infamy, Atlas Reactor, Total War: Warhammer 2, Planet Coaster, League Of Legends and etc are garbage then I think most PC gamers would be more than glad to have more of this garbage.

Even if the games listed above do come to consoles they'll still be better on PC and PC has so many games that losing a couple as exclusives doesn't really hurt it. CSGO being on consoles sure as hell didn't stop it from selling over 30 million+ on PC and 99.99% of the playerbase being on PC.

"Generally the reason why PC fans don't hype PC exclusives isn't because they, "get so many amazing games" it's because most of their exclusives are low budget basement projects of 2d indies or some shabby attempt at AAA titles that are unfinished, full of glitches and defects and far below console exclusive quality."

Mindsets like this one of major reasons why PC will always have many games coming to it and most developers preferring it. Most of you console gamers just ride on hype trains for whatever is being mass marketed towards you and has a flashy cinematic appearance/gameplay style. It is one of the main reasons why the AAA industry has been stagnating because you guys keep buying the same shit. It has been stated by many developers that PC gamers are generally much more open to trying new experiences than console gamers. Housemarque is a pretty recent example, they've made nearly nothing but Playstation exclusives for the past decade but now their next title is going to be a PC game because they've noticed that the audience willing to try different experiences is much larger on PC than Playstation.

If a game is good and has potential despite its bugs most PC gamers are willing to overlook its technical flaws. Most of us would rather have a flawed gem like STALKER than a polished turd like COD. Half of Kingdom Come: Deliverance's sales are from PC so I don't see how exactly the hype died down and we went silent. Most reviewers say its a good game only being held back by mostly bugs which are being ironed out with patches. I don't see 76 as a mediocre score either. You can laugh at Kingdom Come Deliverance and Warhorse Studios now but once they improve over time and end up becoming the next CD Projekt Red/popular AAA dev in the industry then you and all the other console gamers will come out of the wood works praising them as the greatest thing ever. Reminds me of when console gamers trash talked The Witcher for being "overly complex" and boring. Makes me realize how many games and developers wouldn't be here right now if they started on consoles.

Bugs aside the biggest problem Kingdom Come suffers from is not conforming to mainstream expectations. The combat is very hard to master, especially early on (it gets a lot easier later when you have good armour and more skills), archery is also very difficult. Then you have the furore certain media outlets tried to create for the lack of coloured people in 15th century Bohemia and Warhorse's refusal to change history to appease the idiot agenda rife in the U.S. today.

Warhorse are off to a better start than CDPR had with the Witcher. Although the latter does have a higher MC score, it was rife with actual game breaking bugs and an extremely clunky QT type combat. If Warhorse can improve the way CDPR have then they will be a legendary developer in the coming years but they need to keep doing things their way and not conform to the mainstream media's demands. I would love for them to do a feudal Japanese game next and have no non Japanese nationalities, just to see if they get the same complaints about perceived racism (and it would fit really well into the combat system they have already pioneered).

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@tgob89 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

They were hyping Star Citizen as if it was ever going to come out.

They want so bad to have a graphically superior cinematic gameplay experience to call there own.

Will be funny when it releases on consoles, PS5 will be better than most current hermits rigs beta testing the game now.

Calm down Cow, the shitty PS5 will be outdated by PC the day it releases. You know like every playstation console that comes out.

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Cause PC Gamers actually play games.

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#66 NoodleFighter
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@GarGx1Oh yeah I forgot about the SJW journalist giving the game bad reviews because the devs didn't bow down to their stupid agenda and the game isn't very casual friendly. I assume most of them came in expecting the game to be Skyrim without dungeons and dragons.

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#67  Edited By Theproof
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Because PC gaming is irrelevant compared to consoles. Nobody gets hyped for boring exclusive RTS games and snoozefest space flight simulators. Real gamers want cinematic, action oriented, epic games which the PC clearly lacks.

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#68 freedomfreak
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None worth hyping.

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@theproof said:

Because PC gaming is irrelevant compared to consoles. Nobody gets hyped for boring exclusive RTS games and snoozefest space flight simulators. Real gamers want cinematic, action oriented, epic games which the PC clearly lacks.

Uhh what?? I remember being super hyped for SC2 and Total Warhammer 2, DOS II, Warcraft 3, Plague Inc, Torchlight 2. I remember being so excited for Grim Dawn that I actually pre-ordered it and I rarely do that.


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#70  Edited By Enragedhydra
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@theproof said:

Because PC gaming is irrelevant compared to consoles. Nobody gets hyped for boring exclusive RTS games and snoozefest space flight simulators. Real gamers want cinematic, action oriented, epic games which the PC clearly lacks.

Also who the hell are you to say who a real gamer is and is not, real gamers want good games period.

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#71 Theproof
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@freedomfreak: So true. PC gamers are too busy beefing up their PC's than actually playing games. They don't realize there's not much out there they're going to use all of that power for.

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@theproof said:

@freedomfreak: So true. PC gamers are too busy beefing up their PC's than actually playing games. They don't realize there's not much out there they're going to use all of that power for.

Your so busy playing games capped at 30 FPS you don't know what 100+ fps even is.

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#73  Edited By Theproof
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@Enragedhydra said:
@theproof said:

Because PC gaming is irrelevant compared to consoles. Nobody gets hyped for boring exclusive RTS games and snoozefest space flight simulators. Real gamers want cinematic, action oriented, epic games which the PC clearly lacks.

Again.....boring RTS games. You where hyped for them? Cool. Unfortunately the masses don't give a flying **** about these type of games to give them hype such as games like GOW and Spiderman. I'm just telling it how it is.

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@Enragedhydra: Again.....boring RTS games. You where hyped for them? Cool. Unfortunately the masses don't give a flying **** about these type of games to give them hype such as games like GOW and Spiderman. I'm just telling it how it is.

what more 3rd person games?? Yawn, dime a dozen. You do realize the amount of hype around Grim Dawn there was on the PC, or the hype of Starcraft 2? Your perspective boring, I consider 3rd person action games boring. Whats the difference of me going back and playing Dead Space (3rd person) and GoW 4? (3rd person)

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There's been plenty of hyped PC games on here. This thread is just wrong

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@calvincfb said:

@babyjoker1221: I'm like Mariah Carey

I don't know this game.

CRINGE

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@Enragedhydra: LMAO! Starcraft 2? See that's the problem. Consoles pump out AAA games every month. You, an obvious PC gamer has to resort to name dropping a game that came out almost a decade ago to support your argument. Face the facts son, PC gaming is irrelevant. All those games you mentioned would be nothing more than shovelware, indie type games on the PS4 and Xbox one.

The hype you see for games like grim dawn is only hype amongst the hardcore PC crownd. You will see nothing from PC that would get hype like GOW.

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#78  Edited By Theproof
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@Enragedhydra A clear PC elitist. I'm not gonna even bother responding again to someone who can't open their eyes and stop being so ignorant. Have a good night sir.

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@theproof said:

@Enragedhydra: LMAO! Starcraft 2? See that's the problem. Consoles pump out AAA games every month. You, an obvious PC gamer has to resort to name dropping a game that came out almost a decade ago to support your argument. Face the facts son, PC gaming is irrelevant. All those games you mentioned would be nothing more than shovelware, indie type games on the PS4 and Xbox one.

The hype you see for games like grim dawn is only hype amongst the hardcore PC crownd. You will see nothing from PC that would get hype like GOW.

The only reason games like GOW are hyped is because everyone has heard of them, doesn't make them good games, just another generic 3rd person game.
Divinity Original Sin II was very hyped, Total War Warhammer 2. Battletech seems to be getting lots of hype around it. Frostpunk is another one.
The PC has so many good games that we don't have time to hype them, for every Triple AAA game the consoles get we get a pile of great Indie games in the same span and at a cheaper price.

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@theproof said:

@Enragedhydra: LMAO! Starcraft 2? See that's the problem. Consoles pump out AAA games every month. You, an obvious PC gamer has to resort to name dropping a game that came out almost a decade ago to support your argument. Face the facts son, PC gaming is irrelevant. All those games you mentioned would be nothing more than shovelware, indie type games on the PS4 and Xbox one.

The hype you see for games like grim dawn is only hype amongst the hardcore PC crownd. You will see nothing from PC that would get hype like GOW.

Why do console users piss themselves like an excited dog every time they manage to get a game that's worth playing?

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@theproof said:

@Enragedhydra A clear PC elitist. I'm not gonna even bother responding again to someone who can't open their eyes and stop being so ignorant. Have a good night sir.

Yes clearly I am a PC elitist, frigging idiot


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@jereb31 said:
@theproof said:

@Enragedhydra: LMAO! Starcraft 2? See that's the problem. Consoles pump out AAA games every month. You, an obvious PC gamer has to resort to name dropping a game that came out almost a decade ago to support your argument. Face the facts son, PC gaming is irrelevant. All those games you mentioned would be nothing more than shovelware, indie type games on the PS4 and Xbox one.

The hype you see for games like grim dawn is only hype amongst the hardcore PC crownd. You will see nothing from PC that would get hype like GOW.

Why do console users piss themselves like an excited dog every time they manage to get a game that's worth playing?

I have no idea

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#83  Edited By Theproof
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@Enragedhydra said:
@theproof said:

@Enragedhydra A clear PC elitist. I'm not gonna even bother responding again to someone who can't open their eyes and stop being so ignorant. Have a good night sir.

Yes clearly I am a PC elitist, frigging idiot
Yes clearly I am a PC elitist, frigging idiot

I AM NO FANBOY

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#84 Enragedhydra
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@theproof Than stop acting like one

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I guess it's because hyping, screaming and claiming ownage about games on forums isn't as fun for PC gamers. They're usually more mature.

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@theproof said:

@Enragedhydra A clear PC elitist. I'm not gonna even bother responding again to someone who can't open their eyes and stop being so ignorant. Have a good night sir.

The Irony of this comment is amazing. Your lack of self awareness is impressive.

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@Enragedhydra: Don't rise to someone who has obviously made an alt account to troll with.

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@Litchie said:

I guess it's because hyping, screaming and claiming ownage about games on forums isn't as fun for PC gamers. They're usually more mature.

OR... indies tend to look a bit crap when compared to the big console exclusives :P

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#89  Edited By Litchie  Online
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@Epak_ said:
@Litchie said:

I guess it's because hyping, screaming and claiming ownage about games on forums isn't as fun for PC gamers. They're usually more mature.

OR... indies tend to look a bit crap when compared to the big console exclusives :P

Yeah, slap the AAA stamp on something and make it look shiny and console gamers will gobble it up while calling PC gamers' actual good games crap. Too true.

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#90 Epak_
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@Litchie said:
@Epak_ said:
@Litchie said:

I guess it's because hyping, screaming and claiming ownage about games on forums isn't as fun for PC gamers. They're usually more mature.

OR... indies tend to look a bit crap when compared to the big console exclusives :P

Yeah, slap the AAA stamp on something and make it look shiny and console gamers will gobble it up while calling PC gamers' actual good games crap. Too true.

Yes, I'm sure most indies are truly superior to the big console exclusives...

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#91  Edited By Litchie  Online
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@Epak_ said:
@Litchie said:
@Epak_ said:
@Litchie said:

I guess it's because hyping, screaming and claiming ownage about games on forums isn't as fun for PC gamers. They're usually more mature.

OR... indies tend to look a bit crap when compared to the big console exclusives :P

Yeah, slap the AAA stamp on something and make it look shiny and console gamers will gobble it up while calling PC gamers' actual good games crap. Too true.

Yes, I'm sure most indies are truly superior to the big console exclusives...

It's a little bit sad that you're sarcastic.

But you're far from alone in calling the shiniest things the best.

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#92 Theproof
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@Epak_: Exactly.

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@calvincfb said:

The last PC hyped exclusive was half life 2 and that was ages ago.

Why do we never see threads hyping PC exclusives?

because PC gamers do not fall for hype marketing tactics.

hype is generated by marketing companies

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#94 UnrealGunner
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Casual (console) gamers only hype up games that are heavily marketed to them. It's not down to the quality of the games.

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#95  Edited By Zaryia
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@Epak_: Take out Indy games and PC still wins at GS and MC. Find new material.

Pc indy are great btw even if you don't think so.

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@zaryia said:

@Epak_: Take out Indy games and PC still wins at GS and MC. Find new material.

Pc indy are great btw even if you don't think so.

Well obviously, PC has the biggest library, some of the greats are over 10 years old though. More concerned 'bout recent games, that are not indies.

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@Epak_ said:
@zaryia said:

@Epak_: Take out Indy games and PC still wins at GS and MC. Find new material.

Pc indy are great btw even if you don't think so.

Well obviously, PC has the biggest library, some of the greats are over 10 years old though. More concerned 'bout recent games, that are not indies.

and there is the Achilles heal

PC indies blow the friggin socks off of AAA games. sorry but its true, not opinion.

absolutely a billion times better.

I am thinking of adding Ark Survival Evolved to my collection

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#98  Edited By Fairmonkey
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@babyjoker1221: because lems have nothing to hype

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@tryit: Yeah I know you despise AAA games, enjoy the indies friend.

I also find it funny, that graphics only matter when were talking about 3rd party games, but when the game happens to be a PC exclusive it can look like a game from the early 00's and it's still okay, because obviously it's so deep and unique that it doesn't really matter.

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#100  Edited By TryIt
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@Epak_ said:

@tryit: Yeah I know you despise AAA games, enjoy the indies friend.

I also find it funny, that graphics only matter when were talking about 3rd party games, but when the game happens to be a PC exclusive it can look like a game from the early 00's and it's still okay, because obviously it's so deep and unique that it doesn't really matter.

there are likely right now more indies that look as good as AAA titles then there are AAA titles released this year.

The Forest, Ark, Rust come to mind for starters, but you are right, graphics are secondary to game play