Why on Earth are Bethesda's games so buggy?

How can they get away with this garbage? They're a big-name developer. Do they not even bug test their games at all? Seriously. It's like they slap them together and ship them out without testing for bugs. Every game past Morrowind has been a buggy mess. Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, Brink, and now Skyrim. It's unbelievable. And there are GAME-BREAKING bugs. Escortees in an escort mission that just vanish, NPCs not doing what they need to to complete a quest, extreme model clipping, texture issues, falling through objects, and crashing. Oh man, crashing. You thought Source was bad with alt-tabbing? Play a Bethesda game. Hope you like hearing a sound effect on loop for 5 minutes. It's like they spent all the development time on graphics. And even then, the graphics are trash, with horrible models, low-res and pop-in textures, and just overall ugliness. Bethesda games only look good at a distance while squinting.

It's inexcusable, and I honestly don't know how people try to justify buying a Bethesda game at launch.

Well thank god for patches then

Because they have s***ty programmers.

Well thank god for patches then

ImSwordMan

New Vegas was Obsidian (Bethesda published and was in charge of patches I think).

I've only run into a few bugs in Skyrim so far, so it's not too bad. I can justify it easily though... The games they release are awesome.

That picture made me chuckle. :lol:

Just wanted to comment on that.

Well thank god for patches then

ImSwordMan

Is this another copy+pasted/stole article you got from somewhere else? Anyone who would actually try to argue this would know not to include Brink.

Also that picture isn't buggy. It's intended. The Gamebyro engine was a PoS which led to multiple problems. It's hard to create a fully open world like Elder Scrolls and be able to nail every bug.

Is this another copy+pasted/stole article you got from somewhere else? Anyone who would actually try to argue this would know not to include Brink.

Also that picture isn't buggy. It's intended. The Gamebyro engine was a PoS which led to multiple problems. It's hard to create a fully open world like Elder Scrolls and be able to nail every bug.

ChubbyGuy40

People don't excuse the bugs? Skyrim got a 9 and in negatives it specifically says there are bugs. Really though People are willing to excuse them because Bethesda games are good enough in other ways.

I don't see how the picture is indicative of a bug. I think guards should do their duty even when they are in water ...

Eh, it doesn't bother me. I loved Fallout 3, one of my favorite games this gen, despite the bugs. I was playing the PS3 version too.

Eh, it doesn't bother me. I loved Fallout 3, one of my favorite games this gen, despite the bugs. I was playing the PS3 version too.

AmayaPapaya

Why do people get so pissy about bugs all the time? I didn't even find New Vegas all that irritating.

my guess is the dvd limitations of the 360, a game that big just isnt meant for 1 dvd disc.ConsoleCounsla_

So, compressing a game onto a disk causes in-engine/game bugs? Could you explain exactly how?

Could you also explain, if what you say is the case, how games released before the 360 were also bg filled.

Bethesda is a PC dev so bugs are to be expected in their games

Bethesda is a PC dev so bugs are to be expected in their games

Harisemo

Are you implying that in-game bugs are inherent to the PC?

Will you shut up about copying and pasting? I write all of my original articles all the time.TankBusterJenn

No, because that's all you've been doing when creating new threads. What's the matter? Can't write your own material?

I have yet to encounter any major bugs in any Bethesda developed game. All I ever came across were wierd ones, like flying 100feet into the air after getting hit by a giant...

Colour me lucky, I suppose. :?

The only logical reason is the game is too large to bug test thoroughly. hensothor

It's more likely to happen in sandbox games, as eventually the player will do something that the developer hadn't anticipated. But yeah, Bethesda tend to push it to the limit when it comes to bugs.

Skyrim isn't too buggy where you can't play the game though. that's good enough for me.

I have yet to encounter any major bugs in any Bethesda developed game. All I ever came across were wierd ones, like flying 100feet into the air after getting hit by a giant...

Colour me lucky, I suppose. :?

LORD_BLACKGULT

Thanks god we can fix this by allowing mods and community made patches. I feel with console gamers.

Game of the Year is.................. SKYRIM!!!!!!!!

not actually more like that:

Glitchfest of the year is......... SKYRIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFL:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

Bethesda is a PC dev so bugs are to be expected in their games

lundy86_4

Are you implying that in-game bugs are inherent to the PC?

Funniest thing is, Skyrim is a console port.

Bethesda has crappy programmers/bug testers I would imagine. A friend of mine is loving Skyrim but he had to make a new character because towards the end of the main quest the NPC he had to talk to randomly became hostile no matter what he did. He reloaded a save an hour beforehand and they still became hostile and attacked him immediately. Plenty of graphical glitches when I watched him play, too. Most people give them a pass on bugs because they find the games really enjoyable. I can understand that I think, even though I feel that just about everything in their games is lacking.

All games of TES series are buggy (Daggerfall was probably the most buggy of them all) because they are open-world games that are trying to emulate real world, and thats a goal that is incredibely difficult to achieve in a singleplayer game. Skyrim is actually pretty well polished. The screenshot you posted is not even a problem for me considering the scaleof the game.

game brio is the engine marrowind-new vegas were built on. its notorious for being terrible.

also, when you've got games that are as huge as bethesda's ther are bound to be bugs.

People don't excuse the bugs? Skyrim got a 9 and in negatives it specifically says there are bugs. Really though People are willing to excuse them because Bethesda games are good enough in other ways.

Vaasman

my guess is the dvd limitations of the 360, a game that big just isnt meant for 1 dvd disc.ConsoleCounsla_

I fail to see how this could possibly make Bethesda's games buggy...

Because they take bigger chances and are more ambitious then more devs.

Its not a linear corridor game its games wher eyou can go ANYWHERE you want.

Skyrim is very well optimized though, I have played 25 hours and no issues. I almost cnat belive its a Bethesda game heheh.

This is part of what is just so great about mods.

Because the games are so...

Big.

Hey?

QQ.

Besides, you think Bethesda is bad with bugs, go look at ANY Obsidian game to see how bad bugs and glitches can really get.

Ive only run into a few very minor bugs so far after 20 hours sooo

and bioware is far more guilty of this than bethesda