Why PC could be the ideal platform for gamers!

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There are no set prices for your hardware. and EVERYTHING is customizable. for example if you are a gamer who plays excessively then it would make sense for you to build a very powerful/expensive system. if you are only in to casual/ Internet arcade games then any PC to your preference of price will do. and if you were casual but want a deeper experience then a simple upgrade of a graphics card will solve the problem. Consoles lack this freedom.now I don't know about other country prices. but go here to see what PC gaming is like in NZ

www.pricespy.co.nz (I assume prices are much cheaper in other countries compared to NZ)

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because there's no preset system all games will be (ideally) available. no more exclusives means gamers wouldn't miss out on experiences. a halo fan will be able to play metroid and MGS4:D

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the gaming market will grow much faster as now there's direct competition in games and hardware. basically all parts of a PC will be in competition. i.e memory cards, graphics cards, hard drives etc etc. more competition is a good thing for gamers btw. and now since motion control is popular there will be others making devices as well. so if you don't like wiimote then you can simply give another manufacture a go! this could also mean cheaper prices for games due to intense competition!

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Multiplayer! no xbox live charges!

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User content! the amount of user contents and mods available are insane.

well that's all I can think about atm. if there's anything else lemme know.btw this is the ideal scenario for gamers. I'm not saying PC's are perfect! PC do have many issues to solve. but IDEALLY all of us gamers should be one community.and shouldn't hate each other like we see today.

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this is not related to gaming but with PC you also can have many many apps as well. therefore its also convienient as a all in one package!

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#1"us" was removed from "us gamers" in the title.

#2 platformer changed to platform

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#4 further spelling and grammar fixes.

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

-GhostMLD-

And that's a ludocrous steroeotype. I live in my mom's attic, not basement. Why do people have to be so rude! :P

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

-GhostMLD-

Society also views gamers in general, apart from the Wii, under that stereotype.

And until the console can produce a game that sells over 40 million, it fails :|

its all about what you're looking for. hence a market of 3 consoles, 2 handhelds, and PC.clone01

the handheld market makes sense. but console market not su much. I mean yes consoles were the leaders of gaming back in the old snes days. but ever since the vast adoption of pc's consoles just seem like a step back.

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

-GhostMLD-

Ouch! but you are just joking so all good :D

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

organic_machine

And that's a ludocrous steroeotype. I live in my mom's attic, not basement. Why do people have to be so rude! :P

Agreed i'm not in the basement i'm on the top floor baby, whocares if i have black sheets on the windows and my computer chair is surrounded my empty coffee cups and cookie bags. that's what real gaming is about ;)

[QUOTE="clone01"]its all about what you're looking for. hence a market of 3 consoles, 2 handhelds, and PC.Great_Ragnarok

the handheld market makes sense. but console market not su much. I mean yes consoles were the leaders of gaming back in the old snes days. but ever since the vast adoption of pc's consoles just seem like a step back.

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

-GhostMLD-

Ouch! but you are just joking so all good :D

technically, yes, a console isn't as powerful as a PC, but a lot of gamers appreciate the plug and play appeal of consoles.

technically, yes, a console isn't as powerful as a PC, but a lot of gamers appreciate the plug and play appeal of consoles.

clone01

you have to plug PC's as well you know. also with PC you don't have get a HD-TV. ofcourse you can but if you can't afford that then you can still enjoy the same resolution on your monitor!! seriously the PC is the ideal platformr for games.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

technically, yes, a console isn't as powerful as a PC, but a lot of gamers appreciate the plug and play appeal of consoles.

Great_Ragnarok

you have to plug PC's as well you know. also with PC you don't have get a HD-TV. ofcourse you can but if you can't afford that then you can still enjoy the same resolution on your monitor!! seriously the PC is the ideal platformr for games.

that's opinion...you can't really say that a PC is easier than a console. it simply isn't. there are still some things more appealing about consoles. please know that i am in no way, shape, or form bashing PC gaming. but as long as there are players like myself, consoles will continue to do very well.

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

-GhostMLD-

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

-GhostMLD-

Console gaming has always been mainstream. Why do you think consoles came into being? To target the audience for whom PCs and the like are too complex. All you have to do to play a console is plug it in and then put a disc in. Far simpler than a PC, no?

Furthermore, the PS1 made console gaming even more mainstream than ever before. The PS2 then followed in its footsteps and now it is the Wii's turn.

[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"][QUOTE="clone01"]

technically, yes, a console isn't as powerful as a PC, but a lot of gamers appreciate the plug and play appeal of consoles.

clone01

you have to plug PC's as well you know. also with PC you don't have get a HD-TV. ofcourse you can but if you can't afford that then you can still enjoy the same resolution on your monitor!! seriously the PC is the ideal platformr for games.

that's opinion...you can't really say that a PC is easier than a console. it simply isn't. there are still some things more appealing about consoles. please know that i am in no way, shape, or form bashing PC gaming. but as long as there are players like myself, consoles will continue to do very well.

dont worry about bashing pc's. if that what u want its ok to say it.lol.

also what do u mean by opinion?? which one are u refering to exactly? if you are refering to plug n' play comment for PC. its true! and also this isn't about whether consoles are succesful or not. its about the ideal platform for gamers!

I did PC gaming from the early 90s to the about 2004. Its great, and yes upgrading to have the most advanced hardware sure is nice. But it gets a little too expensive and laborious (Im not a PC mechanic). As nice as it is over console, I like the "buy it once" and not having to upgrade the hardware aspect even if you loose a little in the graphics dept.Darthmatt

well thats the thing.PC's give u that freedom. like you said if you don't mind graphics that much you can very well buy a cheap pc or not upgrade. but you still wont missout on games like COD4, HL2 etc. because you can just play on low settings.

I can think of so many reasons why so many people prefer to play games on a console and use their PC for internet games.

1. Prefer using a Television (a PC in the living room doesn't look good)

2. plug and play - not everyone has the time or interest in putting a PC together

3. Cost - you buy the console and can play every single game that comes out for it for years with good graphics

4. some people don't like playing games with keyboard and mouse.

5. multi-player with friends and family

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]I did PC gaming from the early 90s to the about 2004. Its great, and yes upgrading to have the most advanced hardware sure is nice. But it gets a little too expensive and laborious (Im not a PC mechanic). As nice as it is over console, I like the "buy it once" and not having to upgrade the hardware aspect even if you loose a little in the graphics dept.Great_Ragnarok

well thats the thing.PC's give u that freedom. like you said if you don't mind graphics that much you can very well buy a cheap pc or not upgrade. but you still wont missout on games like COD4, HL2 etc. because you can just play on low settings.

I can think of so many reasons why so many people prefer to play games on a console and use their PC for internet games.

1. Prefer using a Television (a PC in the living room doesn't look good)

2. plug and play - not everyone has the time or interest in putting a PC together

3. Cost - you buy the console and can play every single game that comes out for it for years with good graphics

4. some people don't like playing games with keyboard and mouse.

5. multi-player with friends and family

Deihmos

I can think of so many reasons why so many people prefer to play games on a console and use their PC for internet games.

1. Prefer using a Television (a PC in the living room doesn't look good)

You can chose what sort of case you want. and there are some gorgeous cases! so issue solved :)

http://aspireusa.net/default.php my favourite!

http://www.casedesigns.net/mini/hfx-micro-miniature-and-fanless/ (very console looking)

http://www.casedesigns.net/mini/kapsel-media-center-trendy-design-minded-and-different/

http://www.casedesigns.net/mini/psile-extremely-welldesigned-in-white-or-black/ (gamecube look a like)

http://www.casedesigns.net/mini/shuttle-m-series-beautiful-small-black-htpc/ (nice home theatre look)

http://www.casedesigns.net/desktop/shuttle-x-series-small-homemultimedia-pc-with-nice-design/ (nice Wii look)

http://www.casedesigns.net/media-center/zalman-hd135-blacksilver-big-htpc-with-vfd/ (more home theatre looks)

2. plug and play - not everyone has the time or interest in putting a PC together

well its quite easy to put a pc together. if not you can ask the supplier to put it together. but if the specific parts and jargons are too hard then you can buy preset hardware from local electronic shop. or you can buy from dell if you want to have some level of customization.

3. Cost - you buy the console and can play every single game that comes out for it for years with good graphics

cost is the advantage for PC's. Its completely up to you! and the vast majority of games are playable assuming your PC will be somewhat modern. i.e if your pc is still on windows 95 and is over 5 years old then not good.

4. some people don't like playing games with keyboard and mouse.

fine use the X360 controller or anyother controller then. btw keyboard is amazing for fighting games. guilty gear XX is brilliant for that.

5. multi-player with friends and family

you can use more than one controller! but yeah for FPS this is bad. but if everyone makes games for PC's then allowing split screen is not difficult!

Deihmos

A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Deihmos

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Vandalvideo

It's called preference. Do you expect everyone to like what you like?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Deihmos

It's called preference. Do you expect everyone to like what you like?

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Tiefster

I know aye. thats one of the most annoying aspects of life! the feeling of "I can't do it! Im too dumb or someother thing".*sigh*

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Tiefster

The truth is most people just don't care. They are satisfied with using their PC to do other things rather than play games. Trying to convince some people to play games on the PC is just a waste of time.

The only thing I can knock pc gaming for is spiltscreen........Bring it back!!!

It was in lots of older games.

Other then that PC>all.. Its like debating about a salade buffet or choosing dressing

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Great_Ragnarok

I know aye. thats one of the most annoying aspects of life! the feeling of "I can't do it! Im too dumb or someother thing".*sigh*

Everyone is guilty of it, just with different things.Tiefster

Gamers are people too.....who knew. I thought they where some kind of animal or a monk.

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Deihmos

The truth is most people just don't care. They are satisfied with using their PC to do other things rather than play games. Trying to convince some people to play games on the PC is just a waste of time.

Ahh.. you say "most people," but do you actually KNOW?? For the longest time, I was never a PC gamer. I thought it was too complex for me. If I saw the threads that people made, constructing a 600 dollar computer, I would have been THRILLED. And I think there are MANY who would also be THRILLED at the idea that building a computer is more simple than what was thought. So you know what, keep these threads going. Because there are plenty of people who want to know. You can't assume everyone who doesn't play PC games thinks like you do, pal.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. organic_machine

The truth is most people just don't care. They are satisfied with using their PC to do other things rather than play games. Trying to convince some people to play games on the PC is just a waste of time.

Ahh.. you say "most people," but do you actually KNOW?? For the longest time, I was never a PC gamer. I thought it was too complex for me. If I saw the threads that people made, constructing a 600 dollar computer, I would have been THRILLED. And I think there are MANY who would also be THRILLED at the idea that building a computer is more simple than what was thought. So you know what, keep these threads going. Because there are plenty of people who want to know. You can't assume everyone who doesn't play PC games thinks like you do, pal.

Check the PC hardware forum. it's dedicated to that sort of thing.

The truth is most people just don't care. They are satisfied with using their PC to do other things rather than play games. Trying to convince some people to play games on the PC is just a waste of time.

Deihmos

Its not forcing it on everyone ppl. Its spreading the word ppl need to know that there is the option to use a gaming platform with by far the most options.

I met a 17 yearold who was the child of upper class parents and he thought WoW was the 1st pc online game....

Check the PC hardware forum. it's dedicated to that sort of thing.

Deihmos

Don't post in the threads you don't like :|

If I knew nothing about PC gaming, I would never be on that board. I know NOW that it's dedicated to building good and cheap PCs. But I never would have known that if I didn't use it. And I never would have used it if I didn't think I was able to build a PC.:|

I went from pc exclusive to pretty much just console when hitman bloodmoney came out. It had been only two years since I last built a pc for some shooter, and I have never been able to get hitman to look better than the 360 version. I eventually just gave up when all the game releases were exceeding what I had for recommended requirements. I may get back into it if better exclusive games were released.

I think most of this blame could be placed on the game makers for just doing a poor job releasing games that require patches before they even hit the shelves, and making deals with nvidia to exceed the majority of their users hardware specs. pixel shader 2, 3, wtf, it is like trying to tell the difference between 720p and 1080i.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Vandalvideo

It's called preference. Do you expect everyone to like what you like?

key phrase: "more so than consoles." and yes, for some it does make a difference.

Only in a perfect world would consoles ever become open platforms like the PC. Microsoft has even tried to close the PC platform with Games For Windows but fortunately that failed.

I couldn't imagine a world where all there was was PC's and every single console title was freely available to everyone. That would be utter gaming bliss. Not having to spend $1200 on console/handheld hardware on top of the price of PC hardware to play all the games would be fantastic.
foxhound_fox

exactly!! being able to have all games under one system is gaming heaven! :D

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

-GhostMLD-

I could stero type console gamers as big fat guys sitting on the couch eatting their potato chips.

I don't know any pc gamer that lives in a basement

A console does these things conveniently out of the box hence the reason they are so popular with the masses. Deihmos

hymm. when I bought my dell xps laptop there was nothing to be installed before it could be used, same with my old toshiba laptop. even if you build you own you install windows, then the drives (which takes no more than 10mins for all of them) and your done. what take lots of time is installing word, photoshop and all your other apps. games take like 5-10mins max and then they load faster than cosnole games and ps3 install games now anyway.

So, what happens to all of the more casual game players? This idea seems rather regressive to me.

consoles only last about 3 years so thats kinda like upgrading

So, what happens to all of the more casual game players? This idea seems rather regressive to me.

dewmandew7

theres aboslutely no aggression. thats the beauty of PC gaming. Its all up to you whether you want to be hardcore or casual. and your choice doesn't effect another person negatviely! remember there's quite large market for online arcade games etc.

consoles only last about 3 years so thats kinda like upgrading

Riki101

yeah except with that "upgrade" you are replacing all the components! in PC if theres very modern game that you'd like to play with better graphics then the choice exists for all components of a PC. for an example if a new game like assasin creed says the minimum requiremnt is a dual core processor. then all you have to do is change that component. you don't have to buy a whole new PC. btw I have the minimum requirements for Assasin creed. if you'd like to see screens ill post some :)

im sorry but console gaming is becoming more mainstream, with much of that because of the Wii. Console gaming is becoming more mass market then ever b4.

no offense, cause this is how larger society sees it, but society views PC gamers as shut-ins who game all night in dark basements. hence the name "hermit"

-GhostMLD-

Anyone who thinks that a SW name = what the gamer is actually like, obviously takes system wars too seriously :|

Speaking of which, if 263 million PC gamers world are 'basement dwellers' then how come there isnt a demmand for such accomidation? Or are the paddocks too full of cows and sheep, and cliffs have been blocked off to stop wandering lemmings?

2006 General Mills.

That's right, I've been eating year old Scooby Doo fruit snacks.

Dammit.