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#1 KukicAdo
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First MW2:

Next Borderlands.

The future of PC gaming is peer2peer, less features, no mods.

I guess if you can't meet the superior platform in features, reduce the amount of features.

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#3 KukicAdo
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They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

2-10-08
PS2, Xbox, GC, Wii, Xbox 360 games are never pirated! :roll:
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#5 devious742
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They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

2-10-08

yep.. i have never bought a pc game in my life......sarcasm

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#6 psn8214
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They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

2-10-08

Yes. Every PC gamer pirates. That is most certainly a true statement... :roll:

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#7 Legendaryscmt
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That's why I'm getting the game for the SP. :D

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#8 PannicAtack
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MW2, MW2, MW2. Why should I be mad about a game I never cared about?
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#9 -Tretiak
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That's why I'm getting the game when it goes on sale next year after the next CoD release. :D

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#10 AdamPA1006
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Ya this really pisses me off. Atleas CODWAW was good and had all the good stuff
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#11 Brownesque
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They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

2-10-08

Pirated servers:
Servers - 141
Max players - 3646

Legitimate servers:
Servers - 13245
Max players - 266326

Total amount of servers: 141+13245=13386
Percentage of pirated servers: 141/13386*100=1.05%

Total amount of players: 3646+266326=269972
Percentage of pirated players: 3646/269972*100=1.35%

http://www.private-servers.info/CallOfDuty4.html
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/"

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#12 KukicAdo
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That's why I'm getting the game for the SP. :D

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$60 for a 5-6hr campaign?
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#13 cdav89
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MW2, MW2, MW2. Why should I be mad about a game I never cared about?PannicAtack

If you don't care about it why the hell are you even bothering posting here?

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#14 fail_baby
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How is both games having Lan play bad?

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#15 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]MW2, MW2, MW2. Why should I be mad about a game I never cared about?cdav89

If you don't care about it why the hell are you even bothering posting here?

Never seen that before.
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[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

Brownesque

Pirated servers:
Servers - 141
Max players - 3646

Legitimate servers:
Servers - 13245
Max players - 266326

Total amount of servers: 141+13245=13386
Percentage of pirated servers: 141/13386*100=1.05%

Total amount of players: 3646+266326=269972
Percentage of pirated players: 3646/269972*100=1.35%

http://www.private-servers.info/CallOfDuty4.html
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/"

They really do blow the pirating issue out of proportion. This is very unfair for PC gamers.

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#17 KukicAdo
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How is both games having Lan play bad?

fail_baby
COD4 Lan option to customize the game (points, perks, etc.) MW2 Lan no options.
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#18 glez13
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How is both games having Lan play bad?

fail_baby

I was thinking almost the same thing.

Me-Why is it bad on MW2?

TC-Because MW2 is evil:twisted:

Me- :roll:

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They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

2-10-08
*facepalms* really now?
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#20 KukicAdo
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[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

How is both games having Lan play bad?

glez13

I was thinking almost the same thing.

Me-Why is it bad on MW2?

TC-Because MW2 is evil:twisted:

Me- :roll:

As i said before COD4 LAN - Options MW2 LAN - NO Options
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#21 bphan
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Activison seems to be taking a stance that "it doesn't really matter what PC gamers think, they don't make the majority of our sales, we can do what we want" type of mentality.

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#22 aroxx_ab
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Looks like this only matter to people that play multiplayer, good i buy MW2 for its amazing/stunning singleplay :D

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#23 MadVybz
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The future of PC gaming is peer2peer, less features, no mods.

I guess if you can't meet the superior platform in features, reduce the amount of features.

KukicAdo

So, this automatically means that all other developers will follow right? You DO realise that you can easily show no love to Activision by not buying MW2. If all (or most...or even a big enough number) you PC gamers united in your community and boycotted MW2, then a change should happen. But, if MW2 still reaches a good amount of sales on PC, well then you have no one to blame but your own community.

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#24 PannicAtack
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The future of PC gaming is peer2peer, less features, no mods.

I guess if you can't meet the superior platform in features, reduce the amount of features.

KukicAdo

Yes, because of one stupid game.

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#25 Bebi_vegeta
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They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

2-10-08

And this is going to help the PC version to be less pirated?

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#26 KukicAdo
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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]

The future of PC gaming is peer2peer, less features, no mods.

I guess if you can't meet the superior platform in features, reduce the amount of features.

MadVybz

So, this automatically means that all other developers will follow right? You DO realise that you can easily show no love to Activision by not buying MW2. If all (or most...or even a big enough number) you PC gamers united in your community and boycotted MW2, then a change should happen. But, if MW2 still reaches a good amount of sales on PC, well then you have no one to blame but your own community.

Once MW or another HUGE IP succeeds at this, others will follow. This is a fact.
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#27 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

Bebi_vegeta

And this is going to help the PC version to be less pirated?

Well, if anything it's going to make the PC version more pirated, and lose Activision more money. Of course, I get the sense 2-10-08's critical thinking skills aren't great if he believes PC gamers pirate all their games, and this move is a method to stop piracy.
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#28 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

Danm_999

And this is going to help the PC version to be less pirated?

Well, if anything it's going to make the PC version more pirated, and lose Activision more money. Of course, I get the sense 2-10-08's critical thinking skills aren't great if he believes PC gamers pirate all their games, and this move is a method to stop piracy.

I think it's more along the lines of "PC gamers all pirate, they don't deserve to have their every whim catered to."
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#29 Sonwhy
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IW on crack = pirate spree

Looks like some other pc devs are tyring to *** about free dlc

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#30 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

Dante2710

*facepalms* really now?

You should just ignore him, because everything he says here in SW is anti-PC it seems.

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#31 Espada12
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Don't bother with 2-10-08's comments. He always trolls like that when it comes to PC topics.

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#32 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="2-10-08"]

They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

JangoWuzHere

*facepalms* really now?

You should just ignore him, because everything he says here in SW is anti-PC it seems.

beat me to it.

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#33 EvanTheGamer
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Why continue to try to please a dishonest userbase?

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#34 Bebi_vegeta
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Why continue to try to please a dishonest userbase?

EvanTheGamer

I'm sure banned Xbox live user were very honnest.

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#35 Danm_999
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Why continue to try to please a dishonest userbase?

EvanTheGamer

Because pirates will simply download the game for free, and play on cracked servers?

Because to continue to please that userbase, you don't have to go to any specific effort?

Because other userbases are similarly dishonest?

Because attempting to punish the actions of a few who probably wouldn't buy the game anyway only unjustifiably punishes honest customers?

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#36 MadVybz
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[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]

The future of PC gaming is peer2peer, less features, no mods.

I guess if you can't meet the superior platform in features, reduce the amount of features.

KukicAdo

So, this automatically means that all other developers will follow right? You DO realise that you can easily show no love to Activision by not buying MW2. If all (or most...or even a big enough number) you PC gamers united in your community and boycotted MW2, then a change should happen. But, if MW2 still reaches a good amount of sales on PC, well then you have no one to blame but your own community.

Once MW or another HUGE IP succeeds at this, others will follow. This is a fact.

Like I said, if they do succeed, you have no one to blame but your fellow PC users.

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#37 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

And this is going to help the PC version to be less pirated?

PannicAtack

Well, if anything it's going to make the PC version more pirated, and lose Activision more money. Of course, I get the sense 2-10-08's critical thinking skills aren't great if he believes PC gamers pirate all their games, and this move is a method to stop piracy.

I think it's more along the lines of "PC gamers all pirate, they don't deserve to have their every whim catered to."

Since Activision is actively removing features, they aren't refusing to cater to whims, they're punishing. They could have done nothing new over COD4 and it wouldn't have been an issue.

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#38 waffle57
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Basically, every PC user who buys this game is a traitor, and should be burned at the stake?
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#39 MadVybz
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Basically, every PC user who buys this game is a traitor, and should be burned at the stake?waffle57

More or less, yeah. Because every PC elitist is throwing a fit about it, and (forgive my n00bness if I'm wrong) MW2 goes against what traditional PC gaming is. (When it comes to the online FPS genre, of course.)

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#40 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="waffle57"]Basically, every PC user who buys this game is a traitor, and should be burned at the stake?MadVybz

More or less, yeah. Because every PC elitist is throwing a fit about it, and (forgive my n00bness if I'm wrong) MW2 goes against what traditional PC gaming is. (When it comes to the online FPS genre, of course.)

If the PC version sells.... A) you're all going to troll us relentlessly B) you're going to lecture us on the problem being that we all bought the game despite signing a bunch of petitions C) this will become habitual with game developers, meaning that multiplayer gaming will begin a steady decline It's not even that I'm throwing a fit about it. I'm educating console gamers who don't know what a dedi server is and what its advantages are, and I'm spreading the word to PC gamers. Most of us know this is ridiculous and uncalled for and simply learning about it should be enough to lose a few sales.
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#41 Lethalhazard
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Cool. I'll boycott any other companies willing to remove features such as those including IW/Activision.
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#42 johnny27
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Isn't rage more about SP anyways altough still i don't like this trend p2p on pc fps kills the multiplayer before it has a chance look at Operation flashpoint rising dragon.
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#43 Antikyth3ra
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

That's why I'm getting the game for the SP. :D

KukicAdo
$60 for a 5-6hr campaign?

Why not? I pay 28$ for a BluRay movie that lasts 1hr 30mins and all I can do is sit there and watch it I can barely interact. The way I see it 60$ for 6 hrs of interactive entertainment is a win.
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#44 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"][QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

That's why I'm getting the game for the SP. :D

Antikyth3ra

$60 for a 5-6hr campaign?

Why not? I pay 28$ for a BluRay movie that lasts 1hr 30mins and all I can do is sit there and watch it I can barely interact. The way I see it 60$ for 6 hrs of interactive entertainment is a win.

Or rent it for 5$ for a week.

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#45 Antikyth3ra
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[QUOTE="Antikyth3ra"][QUOTE="KukicAdo"] $60 for a 5-6hr campaign? Bebi_vegeta

Why not? I pay 28$ for a BluRay movie that lasts 1hr 30mins and all I can do is sit there and watch it I can barely interact. The way I see it 60$ for 6 hrs of interactive entertainment is a win.

Or rent it for 5$ for a week.

Why would I rent it? It's quite a deal I'm getting 4 times the length and value for twice the price.
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#46 gamecubepad
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Here's some MW2 features compared to CoD4:

Better SP...check

Better MP...check

Better Co-Op...check

Better Gfx...check

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#47 Midnightshade29
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Screw this gaem, I am getting BAttlefield bad company 2, cant wait for the ps3 beta for bfbc2 on the 17th.. 64 players down to 18? thats pathetic. You would think games like R2 and MAG would make them want to increase player count, not kill it. and on PC 64 players is standard fare... what the hell that is a aweful chart!! And in come the lemmings gloating and blaming pirates... have fun lemmings with your casual crap mp game... BTw there was someone on my friends list playing this on ps3 already... the game must of shipped... I am skipping the day 1 release and will rent the game to play the campaign only.
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#48 Midnightshade29
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Here's some MW2 features compared to CoD4:

Better SP...check

Better MP...check

Better Co-Op...check

Better Gfx...check

gamecubepad
I take it you only own a xbox right? The game doesn't have better gfx its the same engine, mp is lame 18 players is crap with the stupid killstreaks... SP i give you a pass on as I don't know how it is but I bet it won't be as amazing as u2 was. Co-op i could care less about.
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#49 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Antikyth3ra"] Why not? I pay 28$ for a BluRay movie that lasts 1hr 30mins and all I can do is sit there and watch it I can barely interact. The way I see it 60$ for 6 hrs of interactive entertainment is a win.Antikyth3ra

Or rent it for 5$ for a week.

Why would I rent it? It's quite a deal I'm getting 4 times the length and value for twice the price.

Well if your just including single player... renting a game is much cheaper, just like renting a movie.

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#50 dc337
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

They had it coming, with every PC gamer pirating all their games and such.

xXTalismanXx



Total amount of players: 3646+266326=269972
Percentage of pirated players: 3646/269972*100=1.35%

http://www.private-servers.info/CallOfDuty4.html
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/"

They really do blow the pirating issue out of proportion. This is very unfair for PC gamers.

That doesn't measure initial piracy rates which is what IW was offended by.

http://kotaku.com/344848/piracy-makes-call-of-duty-4-devs-sad

But yea keep the piracy denial forces going, that seems to be working. We'll just pretend that we haven't seen all these pc devs complain about piracy.