Why should Nintendo continue to make consoles?

Great software, mediocre hardware.

Nintendo isn't advancing consoles at this point they only facilitate a way to play Nintendo games. I would love to see N games continue third party but I can't think of a compelling reason to purchase a machine that only does N games.

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I know this Doom and Gloom thing is done to death, sorry. But I'm genuinely curious if the system brings something to the market that couldn't be accomplished by the software on other systems.

They continue to have games I want to play, thus they should continue making hardware.

Because they're the only console maker looking to maintain all aspects of what makes a console a console?

They do advance hardware. The Wii U will not be the weakest next gen console.ActionRemix

Yes it most certainly will

Microsoft and Sony are going to stomp on it's poor little neck when they release theirs

Apparently, they are one of those companies that like to make money.

I know, companies and money? Who knew! Wasn't the point of the video game companies to earn credibility amongst forum dwellers?

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]They do advance hardware. The Wii U will not be the weakest next gen console.Jaysonguy

Yes it most certainly will

Microsoft and Sony are going to stomp on it's poor little neck when they release theirs

so let me get this right. Nintendo makes just one weaker console and now they have apparently only ever made weaker consoles...wait???

Why not? As long as people are willing to buy them to play Nintendo games they can continue making them.

I can understand some criticism regarding the Wii being underpowered (which it is) and relying too much on motion controllers (which it does) and consequently missing out on many multi-plats and not stepping in the "HD era" but that's what the Wii U will try to fix.

*Preemptive post before the mandatory NINTENDO HAD A RELATIVELY BAD YEAR LAST YEAR THAT MAKES THEM AUTOMATICALLY BANKRUPT NEVERMINDL ALL THE MONEY THEY MADE BEFORE THAT NINTENDO IS DOOMED post*

So Nintendo can continue to dominate the video game market?

And keep pumping out great software?

And make dat moneyz?

Let's not forget that Nintendo hardware seems to be the most reliable as well. How many Wii consoles have suffered catastrophic failure? Yet we've heard about countless RRODs. Oh, and there are way more Wii's out there than 360s. Plus, there's that game boy that survived a freaking bombing.

I think Nintendo is doing just fine with their hardware. As an above poster or two has already said, Wii is their first "weakest" home console. They have been historically at the forefront until then.

Nintendo will always make hardware.

so let me get this right. Nintendo makes just one weaker console and now they have apparently only ever made weaker consoles...wait???

vtbob88

Why not? As long as people are willing to buy them to play Nintendo games they can continue making them.

I can understand some criticism regarding the Wii being underpowered (which it is) and relying too much on motion controllers (which it does) and consequently missing out on many multi-plats and not stepping in the "HD era" but that's what the Wii U will try to fix.

nameless12345

[QUOTE="vtbob88"]

so let me get this right. Nintendo makes just one weaker console and now they have apparently only ever made weaker consoles...wait???

fadersdream

N64 was still more powerful than the PS1. It was a tradeoff, though yes cartridges were stupid. The gamecube however, is more powerful than the PS2.

So Nintendo can continue to dominate the video game market?

And keep pumping out great software?

And make dat moneyz?

MLBknights58

SNES was weaker than the Genesis N64 was cartridge vs. CD Rom Gamecube Weaker than PS2 and Xbox Gameboy weaker than Lynx, Game Gear and Nomad Gameboy advance and DS were weaker than PSP Wii weaker than 360 and PS3 I'm not Bashing Nintendo, just don't see how it would hurt the industry for them to go third party and would like to see reasons not based on Nostalgia or an undefinable "Nintendo"-ness.fadersdream

Few sights are as admirable as that of the brave imbecile.

I salute you, sir.

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]SNES was weaker than the Genesis N64 was cartridge vs. CD Rom Gamecube Weaker than PS2 and Xbox Gameboy weaker than Lynx, Game Gear and Nomad Gameboy advance and DS were weaker than PSP Wii weaker than 360 and PS3 I'm not Bashing Nintendo, just don't see how it would hurt the industry for them to go third party and would like to see reasons not based on Nostalgia or an undefinable "Nintendo"-ness.LordQuorthon

Few sights are as admirable as that of the brave imbecile.

I salute you, sir.

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]SNES was weaker than the Genesis N64 was cartridge vs. CD Rom Gamecube Weaker than PS2 and Xbox Gameboy weaker than Lynx, Game Gear and Nomad Gameboy advance and DS were weaker than PSP Wii weaker than 360 and PS3 I'm not Bashing Nintendo, just don't see how it would hurt the industry for them to go third party and would like to see reasons not based on Nostalgia or an undefinable "Nintendo"-ness.LordQuorthon

Few sights are as admirable as that of the brave imbecile.

I salute you, sir.

I was thinking the same thing. Just because you don't like their systems as much doesn't mean they werent more powerful. Yeah, N64 was cartridges..doesn't mean it wasn't a more powerful system. Also, wasn't gamecube the most powerful during its gen, I thought PS2 was the least powerful and xbox was relatively similar to gamecube.

Because they're the only one of the big three that I don't dislike now.

Uh, because they can. Profit margins on each unit moved, peripherials, third-party licenses (and a portion of each sale they make), first-party software profits? It's all green. As we know, the fail-safe is going third-party on other platforms but Nintendo is still a long ways off from that happening (if ever at all).

[QUOTE="vtbob88"]

so let me get this right. Nintendo makes just one weaker console and now they have apparently only ever made weaker consoles...wait???

fadersdream

I'm pretty sure SNES could produce better graphics than Genesis, N64 better than PS1 and GC better than PS2.

Besides, who the heck played the SNES because of hardware power?

If you wanted power you got the Neo-Geo not some weak 16-bit console.

They appeal the casual audience. Microsoft and Sony try (Kinect and Move, and actually Microsoft is managing to do it) but Nintendo owns the casual market.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Why not? As long as people are willing to buy them to play Nintendo games they can continue making them.

I can understand some criticism regarding the Wii being underpowered (which it is) and relying too much on motion controllers (which it does) and consequently missing out on many multi-plats and not stepping in the "HD era" but that's what the Wii U will try to fix.

fadersdream

I don't think Nintendo games would sell as well on other systems as they do on Nintendo's own.

Sure, in an ideal world there would be just one gaming machine and everyone would make games for it.

Unfortunately, the world isn't ideal.

due to the influx of smart phones that play games, Nintendo doesn't have a sharp a hold on the handheld gaming market as before, so they need to keep a strong focus on consoles as well.

The gaming world is better when there are dedicated gaming devices, and that is what Nintendo provides. If you notice, and may people in this thread have, the other companies have stumbled over themselves to copy Nintendo. It will most likely happen again.

[QUOTE="vtbob88"]

so let me get this right. Nintendo makes just one weaker console and now they have apparently only ever made weaker consoles...wait???

fadersdream

Gamecube Weaker than PS2

This isn't a 'fanboy bashing the other system' thread.

I'm looking for an actual reason why they shouldn't be third party.

Also Gamecube had a weaker CPU but produced higher color contrast and tighter polygons. It was a single purpose design which allowed it to boost higher rates. Xbox was stronger than both.

This isn't a 'fanboy bashing the other system' thread.

I'm looking for an actual reason why they shouldn't be third party.

Also Gamecube had a weaker CPU but produced higher color contrast and tighter polygons. It was a single purpose design which allowed it to boost higher rates. Xbox was stronger than both.

fadersdream

This isn't a 'fanboy bashing the other system' thread.

I'm looking for an actual reason why they shouldn't be third party.

Also Gamecube had a weaker CPU but produced higher color contrast and tighter polygons. It was a single purpose design which allowed it to boost higher rates. Xbox was stronger than both.

fadersdream

So why should Sony and MS keep making consoles then? Why not just make games for PC? It's the ultimate gaming platform so what's keeping Sony and MS from scraping their consoles and starting making games only for the PC?

And GC was better than PS2 technically ("tighter" polygons? :P ).

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Why not? As long as people are willing to buy them to play Nintendo games they can continue making them.

I can understand some criticism regarding the Wii being underpowered (which it is) and relying too much on motion controllers (which it does) and consequently missing out on many multi-plats and not stepping in the "HD era" but that's what the Wii U will try to fix.

nameless12345

I don't think Nintendo games would sell as well on other systems as they do on Nintendo's own.

Sure, in an ideal world there would be just one gaming machine and everyone would make games for it.

Unfortunately, the world isn't ideal.

due to the influx of smart phones that play games, Nintendo doesn't have a sharp a hold on the handheld gaming market as before, so they need to keep a strong focus on consoles as well.

The gaming world is better when there are dedicated gaming devices, and that is what Nintendo provides. If you notice, and may people in this thread have, the other companies have stumbled over themselves to copy Nintendo. It will most likely happen again.

jimkabrhel

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

due to the influx of smart phones that play games, Nintendo doesn't have a sharp a hold on the handheld gaming market as before, so they need to keep a strong focus on consoles as well.

The gaming world is better when there are dedicated gaming devices, and that is what Nintendo provides. If you notice, and may people in this thread have, the other companies have stumbled over themselves to copy Nintendo. It will most likely happen again.

fadersdream

[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

due to the influx of smart phones that play games, Nintendo doesn't have a sharp a hold on the handheld gaming market as before, so they need to keep a strong focus on consoles as well.

The gaming world is better when there are dedicated gaming devices, and that is what Nintendo provides. If you notice, and may people in this thread have, the other companies have stumbled over themselves to copy Nintendo. It will most likely happen again.

ActionRemix

Oh Jesus, are we really going to start this PS2 > Gamecube crap again?

Everyone just read this whole thread, you'll save a lot of time.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/27354461/so-was-gamecube-more-powerful-than-ps2-or-not

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="fadersdream"]SNES was weaker than the Genesis N64 was cartridge vs. CD Rom Gamecube Weaker than PS2 and Xboxfadersdream

I suppose you know nothing about console hardware? Here is a list how they compare in graphical capabilites:

Atari 2600 < NES < Genesis/MD < SNES < Atari Jaguar < Sega Saturn < PS1 < N64 < Dreamcast < PS2 < GameCube < Xbox < Wii < 360 < PS3

Game Boy < Game Gear < Atari Lynx < Game Boy Advance < DS < PSP < 3DS < Vita

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="fadersdream"]SNES was weaker than the Genesis N64 was cartridge vs. CD Rom Gamecube Weaker than PS2 and Xboxfadersdream

If they didn't, we'd only have one console. It's nice to have another option besides Playstation.

Nintendo is the only one of the three that are staying true to what a console truly means. PS3/360 are no more than dumbed down PC's now and are now more of all around entertainment devices than actual consoles. Where PS3/360 just goes for hardware upgrades and copying the trends, Nintendo IS THE ONE SETTING MAJORITY OF THE TRENDS. Simply look at how controllers have evolved, some better for or worse. Look at Nintendo controllers and look how they have progressed. Then look at the dualshock and how it's pretty much stayed the same for the past 15+ years.

If you define consoles as to be gimped media machines that require online passes, installations, updates, copying trend setters and otherwise doing everything that a PC does for a cheap gamer, then sure why does Nintendo bother?

If you think of consoles where you can find vastly different experiences in gaming like no other, with evolving control schemes and being the trend setter, then the only logical answer is NINTENDO.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] But would something fundamental be lost if they became third party? Nintendo systems facilitate Nintendo games but they actually bar other games from being played on them because of being outdated.fadersdream

I don't think Nintendo games would sell as well on other systems as they do on Nintendo's own.

Sure, in an ideal world there would be just one gaming machine and everyone would make games for it.

Unfortunately, the world isn't ideal.

again, you are taking only one of nintendo's consoles and saying that therefore Nintendo is not a comparable company. You could look at the ps2 and say "it was the weakest of the consoles that gen, don't you think sony should go third party so I can only have a 2 console market" It makes no sense. They had one generation with weaker system and yet still some very highly rated exclusives, and all of a sudden you think they would be better off as a third party. Lets ignore their sales (i know wii isn't selling as well now but still, look at their total sales) and just say that they will drop all of that money to go third party...wheres the reason in that