Why Should Uncharted2 even win GOTY??

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#1 scarface_dm
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I recently went to a couple of electronic stores and walmarts and I noticed games like the new Mario game ,MW2, and ODST were all sold out, yet in every store I went too, I saw a bunch of Uncharted2 copies just sitting there, WTF......I thought GOTY games were massive hits in sales and in quality, and we all know UC2 has quality on lock but is lacking in overal public appeal!

I think if sales should/would be counted than this title should be awarded to MW2 , even though I hate Activision, those sales are mindblowing :shock:

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#2 RadecSupreme
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You just answered your question.

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#3 Silverbond
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Why would sales determine the game of the year? :|

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#4 Cloud_765
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Personally speaking I'm not sure why Uncharted 2 seems to be the one to win it... there's a lot of great games that have been released this year that deserve it just as much.
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#5 GeneraIMLD
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I recently went to a couple of electronic stores and walmarts and I noticed games like the new Mario game ,MW2, and ODST were all sold out, yet in every store I went too, I saw a bunch of Uncharted2 copies just sitting there, WTF......I thought GOTY games were massive hits in sales and in quality, and we all know UC2 has quality on lock but is lacking in overal public appeal!

I think if sales should/would be counted than this title should be awarded to MW2 , even though I hate Activision, those sales are mindblowing :shock:

scarface_dm
I'm sure MW2 will win GOTY
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#6 Candy-Star
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You just answered your question.

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Yeah you just said sales don't count in your post. What was the point of this?
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#7 scarface_dm
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Why would sales determine the game of the year? :|

Silverbond

I dont completely think they should but atleast be considered...

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#8 Johnny-n-Roger
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It won't.

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#9 Cloud_765
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[QUOTE="scarface_dm"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Why would sales determine the game of the year? :|

I dont completely think they should but atleast be considered...

They ought to be a part of it. Certainly, the combination of how long-lasting the game is, the quality, and the sales should determine the GOTY, I would think. Since sales and quality mean the game is a success not only in popularity but it also being a good game.
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#10 Crazyguy105
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It shouldn't.

To me it seems like just another third person shooter/platformer.

Everyone praises ONE THING.

The graphics of course.

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#11 Lionheart08
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So...GOTY should be determined by whether or not the game flies off the shelves. I guess that makes Titanic the greatest movie of all time.

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#12 ActicEdge
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Sales don't determine GOTY. Popularity and appeald etermines sales, two elements that don't factor into the quality of a game.

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#13 finalfantasy94
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GOTY is not judge by the sales but by how good it is.

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#14 lundy86_4
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Why would should sales be counted towards GOTY?

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#15 Gxgear
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Quality over sales?

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Wii fit is the best game of all time.

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#17 scarface_dm
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So...GOTY should be determined by whether or not the game flies off the shelves. I guess that makes Titanic the greatest movie of all time.

Lionheart08

no Titanic is not the greatest movie of all time :roll:

but it was the movie of that year, duh

And why shouldnt sales be considered, if the game is of quality and people still choose another game to get, why is it GOTY :question:

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#18 taj7575
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[QUOTE="scarface_dm"]

I recently went to a couple of electronic stores and walmarts and I noticed games like the new Mario game ,MW2, and ODST were all sold out, yet in every store I went too, I saw a bunch of Uncharted2 copies just sitting there, WTF......I thought GOTY games were massive hits in sales and in quality, and we all know UC2 has quality on lock but is lacking in overal public appeal!

I think if sales should/would be counted than this title should be awarded to MW2 , even though I hate Activision, those sales are mindblowing :shock:

GeneraIMLD

I'm sure MW2 will win GOTY

No it won't. There are so many games that came out after MW2 that are much, much better than it. Don't forget the ones that came before it this year too..

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#19 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So...GOTY should be determined by whether or not the game flies off the shelves. I guess that makes Titanic the greatest movie of all time.

scarface_dm

And why shouldnt sales be considered, if the game is of quality and people still choose another game to get, why is it GOTY :question:

Because GOTY has nothing to do with popularity or which game is the bigger cash cow.

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#20 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So...GOTY should be determined by whether or not the game flies off the shelves. I guess that makes Titanic the greatest movie of all time.

scarface_dm

no Titanic is not the greatest movie of all time :roll:

but it was the movie of that year, duh

And why shouldnt sales be considered, if the game is of quality and people still choose another game to get, why is it GOTY :question:

Simple, unlike say high school for example, game of the year isn't a popularity contest. The best game wins, not the one that the most people buy. FYI, people don't buy games in large quantities with the idea that its the best game of the year, they most likely don't care.

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#21 tonitorsi
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If you play the game you'd know exactly whyit isthe #1 runner up for Game of The Year...but its obviously the latter in your case.

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#22 Microdevine
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Well its common knowledge that ps3 exclusives always sell mediocre at best. But that doesnt mean its a bad game.

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Because UC2 was all hype. No one cared, but Sony kept plugging at the exclusive because it's 'what we got' The exclusives are increasing, but none of them have even come close to finding a niche like Halo did, which is why people say KZ2 is this much better than that, or MGS4 is better than this because it's 'what we got' None of them will hit the niche.
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#24 HavocV3
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Well its common knowledge that ps3 exclusives always sell mediocre at best. But that doesnt mean its a bad game.

Microdevine
better say I agree before someone gets mad at my above post. No harm done.
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#25 ActicEdge
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Because UC2 was all hype. No one cared, but Sony kept plugging at the exclusive because it's 'what we got' The exclusives are increasing, but none of them have even come close to finding a niche like Halo did, which is why people say KZ2 is this much better than that, or MGS4 is better than this because it's 'what we got' None of them will hit the niche.HavocV3

The hype ws Uncharted 2 would be a great game. It obtained that praise. The idea that a PS3 exclusive must hit Halo numbers is insane. Should I just start holding every game to pokemone standards now? "The 360 will not be good enough until it has a game that sells like pokemon". Do u know how silly this argument sounds?

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#26 Cheesehead9099
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Wii fit is the best game of all time.

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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So...GOTY should be determined by whether or not the game flies off the shelves. I guess that makes Titanic the greatest movie of all time.

scarface_dm

no Titanic is not the greatest movie of all time :roll:

but it was the movie of that year, duh

And why shouldnt sales be considered, if the game is of quality and people still choose another game to get, why is it GOTY :question:

Exclusives don't sell as well as multiplats. If Uncharted 2 was on the PS3, 360, PC, and Wii, it would sell A LOT more than it does just on the PS3. You can't even deny that Uncharted 2 is a high quality game and is worthy of GOTY

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#28 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Wii fit is the best game of all time.

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OF ALL TIME

I don't understand this argument either. Are you guys trying to say Wii fit is not a quality piece of software?

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#29 taj7575
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[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Wii fit is the best game of all time.

ActicEdge

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I don't understand this argument either. Are you guys trying to say Wii fit is not a quality piece of software?

No, he is imitating Kanye West. Turn your sarcasm detector on :P

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#30 tonitorsi
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Well its common knowledge that ps3 exclusives always sell great at best. But that doesnt mean its a bad game.

Microdevine

F'xed

LittleBIGplanet, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, Resistance 1 & 2, GT: Prologue, Killzone, MLB 09 The Show, Socom, Drake's Fortune, inFAMOUS, ect...almost all of Sony's 1st party games, if not all of them have surpassed the 1 million mark. Plus not including multiplats such as GTA 4 that has sold the moston the PS3 with 7 million copies sold. And buddy that's massive.

And if I go with the little biased response you gave me from the first sentence...you're making it out as if 1 million is terrible and passing it off as a fact.

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#31 Silverbond
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Well its common knowledge that ps3 exclusives always sell mediocre at best. But that doesnt mean its a bad game.

Microdevine

No. That's not common knowledge. Mostly because what you said is worng.

1 million and up is hardly mediocre.

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#32 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] OF ALL TIMEtaj7575

I don't understand this argument either. Are you guys trying to say Wii fit is not a quality piece of software?

No, he is imitating Kanye West. Turn your sarcasm detector on :P

I got the Kanye reference (I'd have to be living under a rock not too lol) but the idea is always brought up that Wii fit is some piece of trash because it isn't some multi million dollar epic game. I dislike that reasoning, it is a solid game, it shouldn't be treated as lesser because it doesn't appeal to gamespotters.

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#33 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Microdevine"]

Well its common knowledge that ps3 exclusives always sell great at best. But that doesnt mean its a bad game.

tonitorsi

F'xed

LittleBIGplanet, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, Resistance 1 & 2, GT: Prologue, Killzone, MLB 09 The Show, Socom, Drake's Fortune, inFAMOUS, ect...almost all of Sony's 1st party games, if not all of them have surpassed the 1 million mark. Plus not including multiplats such as GTA 4 that has sold the moston the PS3 with 7 million copies sold. And buddy that's massive.

And if I go with the little biased response you gave me from the first sentence...you're making it out as if 1 million is terrible and passing it off as a fact.

Where'd you get that GTA stat from, I'm might interested in that one.

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#34 Ribnarak
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It shouldn't.

To me it seems like just another third person shooter/platformer.

Everyone praises ONE THING.

The graphics of course.

Crazyguy105

oh really now?

do i count as everyone too?

Im sure i admire the graphics...alot. But the gameplay, the scripting, the voice acting, the story line are just as good. Plus with an added mp, i mean its a good package. My favourite game so far, even more than mw2.

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what made MW2 so much better than Modern Warfare 1? Uncharted 2 had bigger, better, longer story, more characters, better soundtrack, better graphics, added multiplayer which is quite nice. I pretty sure it should go to Uncharted 2, because of its quality. Not to MW2 because it sells a lot. Also, my friend just bought a PS3 in Indy, and He bought AC2, and MW2, but couldnt buy UC2 because it was sold out, as was my Gamestop in the mall. (my best buy still had about 20 tho)
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#36 aroxx_ab
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Ucharted 2 is good but Modern Warfare2 will be GOTY 2009, it is even best game ever made and best selling game on top of that :D

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#37 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't understand this argument either. Are you guys trying to say Wii fit is not a quality piece of software?

ActicEdge

No, he is imitating Kanye West. Turn your sarcasm detector on :P

I got the Kanye reference (I'd have to be living under a rock not too lol) but the idea is always brought up that Wii fit is some piece of trash because it isn't some multi million dollar epic game. I dislike that reasoning, it is a solid game, it shouldn't be treated as lesser because it doesn't appeal to gamespotters.

I think it's just because it's a "wii fit"..It's just easy to make fun off.

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#38 bearbones
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It shouldn't.

To me it seems like just another third person shooter/platformer.

Everyone praises ONE THING.

The graphics of course.

Crazyguy105
In System Wars, perhaps. But in the real world, everyone praises the gameplay, story, characters, sound, controls, animation, voice acting... you know, pretty much everything a game is composed of. That is why it deserves GOTY.
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#39 scarface_dm
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You guys seem to fail to see that MW2 is getting rave reviews from critics everywhere, and I believe got a 9 here on gamespot

So you cant denyboth are of quality, Sales will determine the outcome, you just wait and see :D

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#40 Silverbond
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You guys seem to fail to see that MW2 is getting rave reviews from critics everywhere, and I believe got a 9 here on gamespot

So you cant denyboth are of quality, Sales will determine the outcome, you just wait and see :D

scarface_dm

How come MW didn't win GOTY in 2007?

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#41 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="Microdevine"]

Well its common knowledge that ps3 exclusives always sell great at best. But that doesnt mean its a bad game.

ActicEdge

F'xed

LittleBIGplanet, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, Resistance 1 & 2, GT: Prologue, Killzone, MLB 09 The Show, Socom, Drake's Fortune, inFAMOUS, ect...almost all of Sony's 1st party games, if not all of them have surpassed the 1 million mark. Plus not including multiplats such as GTA 4 that has sold the moston the PS3 with 7 million copies sold. And buddy that's massive.

And if I go with the little biased response you gave me from the first sentence...you're making it out as if 1 million is terrible and passing it off as a fact.

Where'd you get that GTA stat from, I'm might interested in that one.

It was 6 million at the begining 0f 2009...if we go by VG charts [yes I know :roll:]and they haven't updated its sales numbers for the PS3 version since last year. Is currently listed as 5.98...a 1 and almost a half year old number. So go figure.

GTA is well known on the PS brand. And it launched in the begining of 2008...by now PS3 console sales have done nothing but increased in overall sales.

But of course this is VGCharts...

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#42 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

So...GOTY should be determined by whether or not the game flies off the shelves. I guess that makes Titanic the greatest movie of all time.

scarface_dm

no Titanic is not the greatest movie of all time :roll:

but it was the movie of that year, duh

And why shouldnt sales be considered, if the game is of quality and people still choose another game to get, why is it GOTY :question:

You should consider alot of things like the total user base of the PS3 in NA, marketing, brand name for a game like COD, Mario, and Halo.

We are talking about the 6th call of duty game, the 1m mario game and the 4th Halo game.

Sales doesn't always determine quality,McDonald's sells millions of meals everyday I don't remember someone calling them quality, they taste good, thats all.

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#43 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

F'xed

LittleBIGplanet, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, Resistance 1 & 2, GT: Prologue, Killzone, MLB 09 The Show, Socom, Drake's Fortune, inFAMOUS, ect...almost all of Sony's 1st party games, if not all of them have surpassed the 1 million mark. Plus not including multiplats such as GTA 4 that has sold the moston the PS3 with 7 million copies sold. And buddy that's massive.

And if I go with the little biased response you gave me from the first sentence...you're making it out as if 1 million is terrible and passing it off as a fact.

tonitorsi

Where'd you get that GTA stat from, I'm might interested in that one.

It was 6 million at the begining 0f 2009...if we go by VG charts [yes I know :roll:]and they haven't updated its sales numbers for the PS3 version since last year. Is currently listed as 5.98...a 1 and almost a half year old number. So go figure.

GTA is well known on the PS brand. And it launched in the begining of 2008...by now PS3 console sales have done nothing but increased in overall sales.

But of course this is VGCharts...

I basically stopped reading at VGchartz. Regardless of whther or not I believe the number (I don't just for reference) I need something more reliable than VGchartz as evidence.

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#44 urdead18
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Then why didn't Wii Sports win GOTY?

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#45 Johnny-n-Roger
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Then why didn't Wii Sports win GOTY?

urdead18

because the wii isn't a real console.

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#46 scarface_dm
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Then why didn't Wii Sports win GOTY?

urdead18

because it isnt of quality or was this question a joke.. :?

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#47 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Where'd you get that GTA stat from, I'm might interested in that one.

ActicEdge

It was 6 million at the begining 0f 2009...if we go by VG charts [yes I know :roll:]and they haven't updated its sales numbers for the PS3 version since last year. Is currently listed as 5.98...a 1 and almost a half year old number. So go figure.

GTA is well known on the PS brand. And it launched in the begining of 2008...by now PS3 console sales have done nothing but increased in overall sales.

But of course this is VGCharts...

I basically stopped reading at VGchartz. Regardless of whther or not I believe the number (I don't just for reference) I need something more reliable than VGchartz as evidence.

The game's total sales as of Jan 2009 was 13m so if we go according to to the userbase of both consoles worldwide, 5M-5.5M for the PS3 and 7.5m-8m for the 360, this is my guesstimate.

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#48 Ringx55
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So This means New Moon is the best movie this year? :roll:
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#49 fifamessi
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I recently went to a couple of electronic stores and walmarts and I noticed games like the new Mario game ,MW2, and ODST were all sold out, yet in every store I went too, I saw a bunch of Uncharted2 copies just sitting there, WTF......I thought GOTY games were massive hits in sales and in quality, and we all know UC2 has quality on lock but is lacking in overal public appeal!

I think if sales should/would be counted than this title should be awarded to MW2 , even though I hate Activision, those sales are mindblowing :shock:

scarface_dm
ok guys thats it because more toyotas are sold than ferraris so ferraris cant be better... dude, how are sales going to make a game better or worse??? it sold a million already. and why should it win game of the year???? maybe because its the best game this year!
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#50 Eggimannd
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You guys seem to fail to see that MW2 is getting rave reviews from critics everywhere, and I believe got a 9 here on gamespot

So you cant denyboth are of quality, Sales will determine the outcome, you just wait and see :D

scarface_dm

Cool story except MW2 got a 9.0 here and Uncharted 2 got a 9.5. So there's pretty much zero chance MW2 gets GOTY on gamespot.

And Gamenrakings has Uncharted 2 at 96.20% versus MW2 at 93.30% (for 360). a 3% difference is pretty big on gamerankings.