Why should we care about Star Fox with Ratchet releasing in the same month?

Nintendo is hell bent on selling and forcing their crappy WiiU Pad features in every game. Mario 3D World was awesome except for the moments where the game designer was forced to implement stupid gimmicks in a few of their levels. Why don't they accept failure and stop mandating motion controls?

@jcrame10: That doesn't seem to be like an actual comparison though. It's already skewed in Ratchet and Clank's favor being $20 cheaper AND being on a Platform that has WAY more units sold than the WiiU.

I think a more justifiable suggestion would be to see how well each game does CRITICALLY not commercially cause I think it's already decided that Ratchet is going to get more sales regardless.

This. You might as well ask, "Why buy Mortal Kombat when you could get Witcher 3? Both are gory, violent, combat heavy action games with scantily clad women, but one is a remake of a 90s arcade game that you can play through in one sitting and the other is a 200 hour RPG".

Sure, one is clearly longer and has more variety, but sometimes all you want to do is punch. And some just want to fly.

@LegatoSkyheart: well, the motion controls could end up being an annoyance that reviewers take off of, which wouldn't really reflect actual gameplay. Star fox will be hard to judge.

yeah pretty much. It'll be hard to compare these games either way.

Motion controls are enough to make me lose all interest in this game. Nintendo really needs to cut it out with that nonsense!

Never played any of the PS2 games, I would like to see more remakes of great old games. I may have to give Ratchet a go. I also always wanted to play Jax and Daxter...give us HD remakes of that series please.

Nintendo didnt go back on their word, you can still turn motion controls off, just not completely. Im guessing they couldnt get it to work in certain areas.

I actually think Star Fox Zero will sell more copies. I also think Sony will have to discount this game to $19.99 to help it sell. Star Fox Zero i dont think will ever see a discount, once shes gone, shes gone.

@pimphand_gamer: There is an HD collection of Jak.

SFZ gameplay

R&C gameplay

@pimphand_gamer: they exist, on the ps3

why ? Because youre fanboys ! :P

I still don't understand why should I care about both games being released the same month.

Starfox is a better rail shooter than Ratchet has been a platformer in years.

That and I'll take Platinum Games working with THE GOAT (Miyamoto for you heathens) over Insomniac games any day of the week. Initially I was bummed out about the control scheme, but **** it, now I'm genuinely curious to see how it all works.

I would pick Star Fox over Ratchet and Clank any day, but I'm not planning to play either unless they were given to me.

@iandizion713: why would star fox sell and never become discounted but you think ratchet will have to be 20 dollars or less to sell?

I'm not particularly psyched for either. Kind of disappointed in what Nintendo had to show in their last Direct, didn't do anything to wet my appetite for the game.

I guess I'll make do with Star Fox 64 3D.

I don't know how much each game will sell, but I think the assumption that Star Fox will hold its price better is not unreasonable, if only because Nintendo games take very long to get meaningful price drops.

Cause Star Fox Zero is a very hardcore game.Some of Nintendos hardcore games sell a majority when they release, then slowly sell out their remaining stock. But its so slow that its not worth replenishing say 250k copies again. It would take way too long to sell that amount. The games also dont sell enough to get a discount. Nintendo rewards gamers discounts after the game sells good. Then they drop the price and send out shipments.

Not saying Ratchet and Clank will be bad and not sell. Im a big fan of Ratchet and Clank and almost own all. But Ratchet and Clank has been away for awhile and i dont think Into the Nexus did as good as they hoped. Most Ratchet and Clank fans already know the story also and from the gameplay not much has changed from their modern games. It all looks like more of the same Ratchet and Clank, just pretty graphics this time.

Also kids dont seem to be buying kids games on PS4 like crazy. Not saying this is a kids game, but they help with sales a lot. This is also a problem, cause many kids and other gamers will not really be in a rush to get the game i dont think. So much stuff to play, it makes it easier to wait for a price drop. And we all know price drops come, its Sony's philosophy.

I think the game will do ok, but not enough, and Sony will mark it down to $19.99 in hopes it will get them a profit for the next games.

I beat the first Ratchet and Clank on the PS2, and it might be my favorite game on that system. I don't own a PS4, but I hope Ratchet is a good game and sells well on the PS4. I have Star Fox Zero on preorder, and I am pretty excited for it. I think the motion controls for Star Fox Zero will work well like they do for Splatoon. I expect that the motion controls for Star Fox Zero will be easy enough for children to play the game, but still challenging for adults. Both Ratchet and Clank, and Star Fox are good franchises.

Star Fox looked like absolute shit when they showed it the first time. I still cant believe they even showed it like that. I'm going to need to see a lot more after release to see if its even worth renting, Which sucks too, because I have fond memories of that IP.

Both completely irrelevant to me

That's nice but pretty sure I was referring to bringing them to PS4.

Man, as much as R and C games bore me to tears, star fox looks worse. It looks so underwhelming.

perhaps you just dont like these styles of games?

HD remakes of HD remakes is kind of overkill. Your best bet is to hope that the Jak games will be put in the PS2 section of the playstation store, like the GTA games and Parappa. Won't be in HD unfortunately, though they still look great tbh. Hard to believe the first Jak and Daxter really released in 2001, it looks terrific still.

More SFZ footage

I'm getting both, Ratchet & Clank is only €40

A playable retro Arwing? That's like playing retro Lara Croft in Tomb Raider: Anniversary or G1 Optimus Prime in the Transformers game based on the first Bay film. Paying tribute, yes, but looks out of place. XD

It's a tradition for me to have atleast 1 Ratchet game, so i guess i might grab this one.

As for the OP - Ratchet is getting a movie, so that might help it's sales, and Star Fox will do good, not sure how, but i'm sure of it.

Why is Ratchet only $40. is it gonna be a smaller game like Into the Nexus?

Anyways the idea of only staying in a ship doesn't appeal to me much, I'd prefer them trying an Assault 2 or something. So Ratchet all the way for me