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#1 n1ntendorevO
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It is amazing, everytime I get on here there are a couple new Wii/Nintendo bashing threads.  Of course this is system wars and you should expect some hate but come on most of these threads are unbelievable.

Like

Wii's demand is going down its doomed the novelty has wore off

Wii's graphics are junk

Wii cost too much for what you get

Wii's games suck

etc.

I guess I'm part of the few that says "Why not get a Wii?"

Only 250 dollars.  An awesome online program. Awesome 1st party.  Growing 3rd party.  A new way to play. 

Everyones arguements are opinions.  Omg I happen to see 3 Wiis sitting at my local target so with my judgement Nintendo knows about these 3 Wiis and are going to come out with a new system ASAP.

Reggie "Iwata are you awake? I'm sorry its 4am over in Japan but I just had to talk to you.  ******* from the gamespot forums has posted that there are 3 Wiis sitting at his local target."

Iwata " Ok ok give me a second. I need to calm down after hearing that devastating news."

Seriously do you know how dumb that sounds.  No one cares that you found X amount of anything anywhere. 

Nintendo just tryed to come up with a new way to play.  They are trying to bring more people into gaming.  Is that a bad thing? 

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#2 hockeyruler12
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i like the Wii, i own one, but it is collecting dust next to my 360...

...the 360 keeps coming out with great games, and the Wii hasnt had a good game since launch...im not counting WarioWare because everybody knows that the review was sympathy for zelda

i cant wait for Mario Party 8 though
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#3 psypher22_basic
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Bro, its System Wars. People will bash your systemm even if its a technical marvel, has awesome first party games, owns all third party support, and comes out with a AAA title every week. thats just how it is. Live with it. And judge a console on your own terms, not ours.
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#4 SportsFanatic10
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There is WAY MORE PS3 bashing then there is Wii bashing.
At least from what i have seen.
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#5 nintendofreak_2
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The main reason is that everybody is afrai of how great the Wii is doing and wants to bash it as much as possible while it's still behind the 360.
 
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#6 Led_poison
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You forget to mention, you lose weight
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#7 AvinashTyagi
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Wiinis envy :P
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#8 n1ntendorevO
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Bro, its System Wars. People will bash your systemm even if its a technical marvel, has awesome first party games, owns all third party support, and comes out with a AAA title every week. thats just how it is. Live with it. And judge a console on your own terms, not ours.psypher22_basic
Dude its not My system, I own multiple. Its just funny some of the trash I read. Maybe some people should get a job or a second one instead of posting on here so they can buy a second console. Im fine with systems wars, just more facts and less opinions would be nice.
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#9 sniperd00de
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i dont hate the wii...i think the wii is great. It's just that the most of the wii's games are less than spectacular. plus 360's games got blood and violence in them, and they're awesome. but i do like zelda.....
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#10 tonywilsn
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why so much wii hating because the 360/ps3 people feel like they got burnt by the companies they bought into . Only a manitcore can say that of course .
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#11 n1ntendorevO
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There is WAY MORE PS3 bashing then there is Wii bashing.
At least from what i have seen.
SportsFanatic10
Because everyone is jealous of the ps2s success. The ps2 was awesome and I dont see the ps3 being any different.
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because the wii is marketed toward kids and adults who don't play games.  I am neither of those, and the games don't appeal to me. 

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#13 HeedleGlavin
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because the wii is marketed toward kids and adults who don't play games.  I am neither of those, and the games don't appeal to me. 

skullkrusher13
Yep, you nailed it. Zelda is for kids and adults who don't play games. :roll:
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#14 poopinloop32
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Because Sheep act like Sales>Games

It happend with the DS and its going to happen with the Wii
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#15 lilrush
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Nintendo is cool =)
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#16 AvinashTyagi
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Because Sheep act like Sales>Games

It happend with the DS and its going to happen with the Wiipoopinloop32
So Wii is going to be a monstrous success, with massive sales WW? Good.
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#17 ArisShadows
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I don't, I love their games.
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#18 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="SportsFanatic10"]There is WAY MORE PS3 bashing then there is Wii bashing.
At least from what i have seen.
n1ntendorevO
Because everyone is jealous of the ps2s success. The ps2 was awesome and I dont see the ps3 being any different.

As an owner and lover of the PS2, I can say I quite disappointed with the third system.
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#19 WildTurkey00
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Sorry the Wii does nothing for me. I prefer a high-end console.
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#20 marvelfan
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It is amazing, everytime I get on here there are a couple new Wii/Nintendo bashing threads. Of course this is system wars and you should expect some hate but come on most of these threads are unbelievable.

Like

Wii's demand is going down its doomed the novelty has wore off

Wii's graphics are junk

Wii cost too much for what you get

Wii's games suck

etc.

I guess I'm part of the few that says "Why not get a Wii?"

Only 250 dollars. An awesome online program. Awesome 1st party. Growing 3rd party. A new way to play.

Everyones arguements are opinions. Omg I happen to see 3 Wiis sitting at my local target so with my judgement Nintendo knows about these 3 Wiis and are going to come out with a new system ASAP.

Reggie "Iwata are you awake? I'm sorry its 4am over in Japan but I just had to talk to you. ******* from the gamespot forums has posted that there are 3 Wiis sitting at his local target."

Iwata " Ok ok give me a second. I need to calm down after hearing that devastating news."

Seriously do you know how dumb that sounds. No one cares that you found X amount of anything anywhere.

Nintendo just tryed to come up with a new way to play. They are trying to bring more people into gaming. Is that a bad thing?

n1ntendorevO


Well it looks like the Wii is going to be the leader this Gen in sales, and the leader always gets Bashed the most.
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#21 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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I don't think any gamer can hate Nintendo.
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#22 oldskooler79
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I think some are starting to realise that the Wii could possibly not only win this gen, but dominate like the PS2 did.  Folks gets jealous of this and particularly if they dont want to see 'teh kiddy' system on top, fearing this may cause a shift for the worst in the industry (for cows/lems).

I personally don't care either way because cows/lems spawned after the Nin/Sega boom anyway so it won't make a difference.  I think it's time for Nintendo to shine again.  If anything, sheep can bash the cows/lems harder due to the fact that the Wii is (for the most part) doing everything right.
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#23 Redmoonxl2
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Because Sheep act like Sales>Games

It happend with the DS and its going to happen with the Wiipoopinloop32


What does fanboy rhetoric have to do with hating the system itself?

Also, face the facts, every fanboy uses sales to their advantage if it favors them. The sheep doing it is nothing new, especially among the fanboys.
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You forget to mention, you lose weightLed_poison

Any nerd that does nothing but plays game could do that easily. *Failed*

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#25 Tylendal
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i like the Wii, i own one, but it is collecting dust next to my 360...

...the 360 keeps coming out with great games, and the Wii hasnt had a good game since launch...im not counting WarioWare because everybody knows that the review was sympathy for zelda

i cant wait for Mario Party 8 though
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Wario-Ware was awesome. Besides, what sympathy. The only sight that didn't give TP rave reviews was Gamespot. You cannot hope to argue that Wario Ware isn't an awesome game.
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#26 FoamingPanda
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Check my profile.

I love the Wii-mote, it obliterates analog controllers (mouse and keyboard still own it though).  Wii is a poor peice of hardware, lacks 3rd party developer support, and is attempting to dramatically change the industry in a horrible way.

Fans of Nintendo frequently worship franchises in ways that exceed the value of the current games being made for franchise, ignore the fact that Wii is an entire generation behind other consoles in terms of functionality and power, and are oblivious to Nintendo's anti-consumers/gamer marketing campaign.

But Nintendo uses horrible marketing practices.  See profile for more details. 

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I stopped reading when you said that it had an awesome online system. I'm a wii fan......and even I have to admit that the online is not up to snuff..........yet.
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#28 ps3-nikita
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Nintendo deserve the hate, well actually the deserve alot more then they get.
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#29 Cpt_Meh
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Because Sheep act like Sales>Games

It happend with the DS and its going to happen with the Wiipoopinloop32
Well, Cows currently have neither. And last time I checked, DS had alot of great games. PSP didn't. That translated into sales. And just because GS deems that the Wii only has one AAA title, the public plays and enjoys what they want.
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#30 venture00
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Nintendo deserve the hate, well actually the deserve alot more then they get.ps3-nikita


u deserve to stop posting and wtf ''ps3 nikita'' :lol:
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#31 Shinobishyguy
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Check my profile.

I love the Wii-mote, it obliterates analog controllers (mouse and keyboard still own it though).  Wii is a poor peice of hardware, lacks 3rd party developer support, and is attempting to dramatically change the industry in a horrible way.

Fans of Nintendo frequently worship franchises in ways that exceed the value of the current games being made for franchise, ignore the fact that Wii is an entire generation behind other consoles in terms of functionality and power, and are oblivious to Nintendo's anti-consumers/gamer marketing campaign.

But Nintendo uses horrible marketing practices.  See profile for more details. 

FoamingPanda
it's a horrible market practice...because it's working? I fail to see the logic.
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Nintendo deserve the hate, well actually the deserve alot more then they get.ps3-nikita
Yeah, because they don't hype their systems to levels they can't acheive, use CGI to show all their games, screw over their customers, etc? Yep, we should all hate Nintendo.
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#33 Blue-Sphere
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Wiinis envy :PAvinashTyagi
:lol:

On a serious note, like some others have said, Sony and the PS3 get a lot more bashing, but the Wii does sometimes probably because it's an easy target.

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I don't think any gamer can hate Nintendo. Tsug_Ze_Wind
I'm a gamer and I HATE... Nin.... NINTEN....nintend....nin..... I can't do it.
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[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

Check my profile.

I love the Wii-mote, it obliterates analog controllers (mouse and keyboard still own it though).  Wii is a poor peice of hardware, lacks 3rd party developer support, and is attempting to dramatically change the industry in a horrible way.

Fans of Nintendo frequently worship franchises in ways that exceed the value of the current games being made for franchise, ignore the fact that Wii is an entire generation behind other consoles in terms of functionality and power, and are oblivious to Nintendo's anti-consumers/gamer marketing campaign.

But Nintendo uses horrible marketing practices.  See profile for more details. 

Shinobishyguy

it's a horrible market practice...because it's working? I fail to see the logic.

Read my blog post on game complexity.

Basically, Nintendo wants to expand the market by appealing to casuals on the premise, "hey, play these simple fun video games, they're just like pac-man, but better."  90% of Wii games are first party.  What do you think will happen to complex games if Wii gains an enormous casual market share?  See the post.

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#36 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

Check my profile.

I love the Wii-mote, it obliterates analog controllers (mouse and keyboard still own it though).  Wii is a poor peice of hardware, lacks 3rd party developer support, and is attempting to dramatically change the industry in a horrible way.

Fans of Nintendo frequently worship franchises in ways that exceed the value of the current games being made for franchise, ignore the fact that Wii is an entire generation behind other consoles in terms of functionality and power, and are oblivious to Nintendo's anti-consumers/gamer marketing campaign.

But Nintendo uses horrible marketing practices.  See profile for more details. 

Shinobishyguy
it's a horrible market practice...because it's working? I fail to see the logic.

Changing the industry in a horrible way? Please do tell me how?
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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]I don't think any gamer can hate Nintendo. coreygames
I'm a gamer and I HATE... Nin.... NINTEN....nintend....nin..... I can't do it.

It's actually pretty simple.

I hate Nintendo.

Gamer =/ Thoughtless Consumer (I hope!).  Nintendo has given mindful consumers more than enough reasons to take offense in their current marketing strat this gen.  

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#38 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

Check my profile.

I love the Wii-mote, it obliterates analog controllers (mouse and keyboard still own it though).  Wii is a poor peice of hardware, lacks 3rd party developer support, and is attempting to dramatically change the industry in a horrible way.

Fans of Nintendo frequently worship franchises in ways that exceed the value of the current games being made for franchise, ignore the fact that Wii is an entire generation behind other consoles in terms of functionality and power, and are oblivious to Nintendo's anti-consumers/gamer marketing campaign.

But Nintendo uses horrible marketing practices.  See profile for more details. 

FoamingPanda

it's a horrible market practice...because it's working? I fail to see the logic.

Read my blog post on game complexity.

Basically, Nintendo wants to expand the market by appealing to casuals on the premise, "hey, play these simple fun video games, they're just like pac-man, but better."  90% of Wii games are first party.  What do you think will happen to complex games if Wii gains an enormous casual market share?  See the post.

I read the blog post...and all I translated from that is a person that fears the wii because it's different. "OMG......It's not a drastic graphical upgrade!?" IT IZ TEH BANE OF TEH GAMING INDUSTRY!!!11"
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#39 LosDaddie
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Why the Wii-hate?

Because the PS3 is dead last in sales.

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[QUOTE="ps3-nikita"]Nintendo deserve the hate, well actually the deserve alot more then they get.Cpt_Meh
Yeah, because they don't hype their systems to levels they can't acheive, use CGI to show all their games, screw over their customers, etc? Yep, we should all hate Nintendo.

Sorry but the 360 is delivering. Other then that I think you must have me confused with someone else. As far as I am concerened, Nintendo deserved the hate all the way from the 8/16 bit and gameboi era. I dont care that a different person is in charge. They still dont want an open and fair competition market. The only difference this time is they are using legally means. Nintendo are the kind of company that will hold up progress, just so they can rip the customer for even more money. They did this in the handheld space, tried to do it with the N64 and more successfully with the Wii. I am talking business practises in the console and handheld gaming space and nothing else.
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#41 FoamingPanda
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Why the Wii-hate?

Because the PS3 is dead last in sales.

LosDaddie

Sadly, this is somewhat the truth.  People need to start hating Wii for the correct reasons, =/.

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#42 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="coreygames"][QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]I don't think any gamer can hate Nintendo. FoamingPanda

I'm a gamer and I HATE... Nin.... NINTEN....nintend....nin..... I can't do it.

It's actually pretty simple.

I hate Nintendo.

Gamer =/ Thoughtless Consumer (I hope!).  Nintendo has given mindful consumers more than enough reasons to take offense in their current marketing strat this gen.  

QFT
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#43 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Why the Wii-hate?

Because the PS3 is dead last in sales.

FoamingPanda

Sadly, this is somewhat the truth.  People need to start hating Wii for the correct reasons, =/.

just because those the the reasons why you hate nintendo....they are the "correct" reasons? you honestly need to get off of your high- horse.
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#44 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"] 

Read my blog post on game complexity.

Basically, Nintendo wants to expand the market by appealing to casuals on the premise, "hey, play these simple fun video games, they're just like pac-man, but better."  90% of Wii games are first party.  What do you think will happen to complex games if Wii gains an enormous casual market share?  See the post.

Shinobishyguy

I read the blog post...and all I translated from that is a person that fears the wii because it's different. "OMG......It's not a drastic graphical upgrade!?" IT IZ TEH BANE OF TEH GAMING INDUSTRY!!!11"

That was my impression of his blog.

"Teh Wii will destroy gaming as we know it!!!  Boycott the NIntendo Wii"

The blog was laughable at best. Zelda: TP is as deep and engrossing as any x360 game I've played so far.......and PS3, IMO, has nothing that can touch Zelda: TP.

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#45 coreygames
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Why the Wii-hate?

Because the PS3 is dead last in sales.

FoamingPanda

Sadly, this is somewhat the truth.  People need to start hating Wii for the correct reasons, =/.

How can people hate what is non-existant? There is no good reason to hate the Wii unless you are a pure fanboy of the other two sytems or don't play videogames.
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#46 Runningflame570
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....Are you seriously bemoaning Wii bashing? Both of the other systems receive more ****throwing than the Wii does, not to such a large degree here in 360's case but most certainly at places like NeoGAF, IGN, ect, ect.
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#47 Redmoonxl2
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What do you think will happen to complex games if Wii gains an enormous casual market share? FoamingPanda


Easy question: Nothing. Nintendo will simply make a name for themselves in the nongaming/casual market while other companies will cater to the hardcore market. It has already happened. There's nothing wrong with choices within a market. Would you rather have everything to be the same? There's no expansion in the market if that was the case, which is why Nintendo is focusing on that untapped nongaming market.

You worry too much and blow things out of proportion. Just because there's success in one side of field doesn't mean all companies should just completely focus on that one side. That'll just result on a flooding in the market which will do more harm than good. Believe it or not, a flood of complex games can do the same amount of damage as a flood of simple games.

Diversity is key to the survival of the market and I hope that both sides succeed. The more people entering the market with simple games means a higher chance of those same people playing complex games. It all works out in the end.
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#48 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"] 

Read my blog post on game complexity.

Basically, Nintendo wants to expand the market by appealing to casuals on the premise, "hey, play these simple fun video games, they're just like pac-man, but better."  90% of Wii games are first party.  What do you think will happen to complex games if Wii gains an enormous casual market share?  See the post.

LosDaddie

I read the blog post...and all I translated from that is a person that fears the wii because it's different. "OMG......It's not a drastic graphical upgrade!?" IT IZ TEH BANE OF TEH GAMING INDUSTRY!!!11"

That was my impression of his blog.

"Teh Wii will destroy gaming as we know it!!!  Boycott the NIntendo Wii"

The blog was laughable at best. Zelda: TP is as deep and engrossing as any x360 game I've played so far.......and PS3, IMO, has nothing that can touch Zelda: TP.

60 hours of TP versus the 10 hour single player of Gears.....hmm....yeah the wii's games are sooo simplistic :roll: no offence to GEOW fans of course
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#49 coreygames
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"] 

Read my blog post on game complexity.

Basically, Nintendo wants to expand the market by appealing to casuals on the premise, "hey, play these simple fun video games, they're just like pac-man, but better."  90% of Wii games are first party.  What do you think will happen to complex games if Wii gains an enormous casual market share?  See the post.

LosDaddie

I read the blog post...and all I translated from that is a person that fears the wii because it's different. "OMG......It's not a drastic graphical upgrade!?" IT IZ TEH BANE OF TEH GAMING INDUSTRY!!!11"

That was my impression of his blog.

"Teh Wii will destroy gaming as we know it!!!  Boycott the NIntendo Wii"

The blog was laughable at best. Zelda: TP is as deep and engrossing as any x360 game I've played so far.......and PS3, IMO, has nothing that can touch Zelda: TP.

Trust me, beyond that he has no backable evidence. He only rants on and on about speculation and personal feelings. It's all rubbish.
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#50 LosDaddie
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Why the Wii-hate?

Because the PS3 is dead last in sales.

coreygames

Sadly, this is somewhat the truth.  People need to start hating Wii for the correct reasons, =/.

How can people hate what is non-existant? There is no good reason to hate the Wii unless you are a pure fanboy of the other two sytems or don't play videogames.

Read his blog for a couple laughs.

He honestly believes the Wii will destroy gaming as we know it. That all games will end up being like Wii Play. He wants everyone to be a hardcore gamer that spends the majority of their free-time gaming.