Why steam isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Hey look it;s dog again.

Hey look it;s dog again.

Cloud567kar

http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-new-vegas-using-steam-as-its-drm-175845.phtml and theres other games that do it too spent 50$ on call of duty modern warfare 2 didnt like it? TOO BAD, YOUR STUCK FOR LIFE WITH A GAME YOU HATE Also it aint so cheap. Just cause 2 is going for 50$ ON STEAM! When the 360 version is like 30$ now and YOU CAN TRADE IT in to sites like goozex.TeamDogFortress

if you buya game by the pure seat of your pants impulse buy then its rather silly imo.

Steam owns everything right now tbh...PSN and live dont even come close to how good it is.Integration and service wise it tops both in a heartbeat.

I haven't got a mainstream gamers attention span, I don't feel the need to constantly exchange old games to get the new ones.

I actually take pride in the fact that I still own every game I have ever purchased, even the pre 2000 ones. It's nice to be able to go back and play old games, their game play doesn't deteriate with their graphics.

Very weak arguments from you, TC.

It is up to the user to decide whether they want a game or not. They would usually have knowledge on the game beforehand. Websites like Youtube help with gameplay videos and such and other sites like Gamespot are designed to review them. A gamer of any system should not buy a game on impulse without any knowledge of it.

I bought Just Cause 2 for $25 a few months ago when it went on sale. On Steam, most blockbuster and popular indie games go on sale at some time, even MW2 did some time ago. Through PC, the developer usually sees money because the preowned market for PC is really small.

Fallout: New Vegas using only Steam can be seen as a good and somewhat bad thing. It forces those that do not like Steam to use it if they wish to play it, but at the same time it allows the fastest way for the game to be updated (considering how many bugs it is filled with). No need to search for patches online.

One last thing: Steam isn't the end all of PC game shopping. Steam is usually the last shop to drop their prices correctly.

Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

Steam owns. If you're buying games you know nothing about then that's you're own fault. As for DRM...who cares? It's built into Steam as you need Steam running to run the game as well as an internet connection. And really...if you don't have a PC with an internet connection at this point then you have serious issues. Steam is the best, by far.

After I clicked the link I realized this thread fails harder than the crowd at a grocery store at the 1st of the month :lol:

oh great dog is back, with yet another riveting tale

Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

hd5870corei7

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Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

_Pedro_

Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

hd5870corei7

And that's exactly why I save up for the sales. Because I know I'm going to get incredible deals that can't be found anywhere else than Steam.

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Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

_Pedro_

Well in the uk and here in Australia you cannot trade pc games anyway, boxed or not so can't see why that us even an issue. As for price, I got just cause 2 for $12 I think on a steam sale. I could list countless games here that I bought cheap on steam sales. Also even full price games can be cheap, depending where you live. Here most new big games are $80 - $100 in shops. I can often get them on steam for half that. Some as you say are more expensive though, for these I buy retail or just wait for the inevitable sale. Steam us awsome and let's face it, it isn't like you have to use it if you don't want. Frozzik

I am in the US and I cant trade them in here where I live either.

If you live in the UK,then Steam is a disgusting rip-off 90% of the time.

Thats a fact.

I paid 2 dollars for Major League Baseball 2K10 on Steam. Retail price 39.99. Try again TC.

Oh yeah and Overlord, Overlord: Raising Hell, and Overlord 2 for 7.50. Retail price 47 dollars for all three.

Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

hd5870corei7

I'll never understand why UK prices for anything gaming is so terrible.

I'll never understand why UK prices for anything gaming is so terrible.

Mystic-G

Steam is only good for holiday sales when it comes to game prices.haresimo

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I'll never understand why UK prices for anything gaming is so terrible.

Frozzik

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Well in the uk and here in Australia you cannot trade pc games anyway, boxed or not so can't see why that us even an issue. As for price, I got just cause 2 for $12 I think on a steam sale. I could list countless games here that I bought cheap on steam sales. Also even full price games can be cheap, depending where you live. Here most new big games are $80 - $100 in shops. I can often get them on steam for half that. Some as you say are more expensive though, for these I buy retail or just wait for the inevitable sale. Steam us awsome and let's face it, it isn't like you have to use it if you don't want. Advid-Gamer

I am in the US and I cant trade them in here where I live either.

I haven't got a mainstream gamers attention span, I don't feel the need to constantly exchange old games to get the new ones.

I actually take pride in the fact that I still own every game I have ever purchased, even the pre 2000 ones. It's nice to be able to go back and play old games, their game play doesn't deteriate with their graphics.

AnnoyedDragon

hermits hype steam a little too much. But its still a great service for what it is. The one size fits all mentality of steam being cheaper is a bit off though.

If you like to buy new releases, or sell old games you never plan on playing again... i imagine consoles are quite a bit cheaper.

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[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Well in the uk and here in Australia you cannot trade pc games anyway, boxed or not so can't see why that us even an issue. As for price, I got just cause 2 for $12 I think on a steam sale. I could list countless games here that I bought cheap on steam sales. Also even full price games can be cheap, depending where you live. Here most new big games are $80 - $100 in shops. I can often get them on steam for half that. Some as you say are more expensive though, for these I buy retail or just wait for the inevitable sale. Steam us awsome and let's face it, it isn't like you have to use it if you don't want. HuusAsking

I am in the US and I cant trade them in here where I live either.

Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

hd5870corei7

Depends on where you live, for me Steam is always cheaper than retail. Steam has been my gaming sliced bread, I can't imagine what I'll do without it.

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Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

hypoty

Depends on where you live, for me Steam is always cheaper than retail. Steam has been my gaming sliced bread, I can't imagine what I'll do without it.

always? what if you sold old games you never planned on playing again?

i was really surprised for how much i was able to sell a 6 month old console game for.

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Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

markinthedark

Depends on where you live, for me Steam is always cheaper than retail. Steam has been my gaming sliced bread, I can't imagine what I'll do without it.

always? what if you sold old games you never planned on playing again?

i was really surprised for how much i was able to sell a 6 month old console game for.

I can't return PC games here, it's store policy everywhere. I also haven't sold a console game before, I've been like that since as far back as I can remember.

always? what if you sold old games you never planned on playing again?

i was really surprised for how much i was able to sell a 6 month old console game for.markinthedark

Console gamers who sell their games after finishing them are freaking weird. Do they not offer rentals where you live?

I've never sold a game in my collection. I keep what I buy on both consoles and PC.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]always? what if you sold old games you never planned on playing again?

i was really surprised for how much i was able to sell a 6 month old console game for.Velocitas8

Console gamers who sell their games after finishing them are freaking weird. Do they not offer rentals where you live?

I've never sold a game in my collection. I keep what I buy on both consoles and PC.

same i probably have about 30+ console games but ive only sold 2 of them. Which is why i said i was surprised by how much i could sell them for. I think if you made a habit of selling games it would really make you quite a bit of cash... and probably cost you quite a bit less than buying steam games. I used to never even consider selling console games up until splinter cell conviction, i had got every achievement point and played the hell out of it... and still sold it for $25 when i bought the game at release for i think $45.... and this was through amazon. If you ebayed your old games, you can get near full retail price for them. I prefer a collection but there are some games i know i will never play again.

for someone like me, who prefers to hang onto their old games, i think steam might be quite a bit cheaper... but for someone that likes to sell their old games, i think consoles might be quite a bit cheaper.

If I want some specific game I won't even look at Steam because the prices are usually so high. But I still buy tons of games there because of the deals. It's always exciting to see what they have as special offers.

As for it being DRM..what form of DRM would you prefer then? With Steam I get to play Fallout New Vegas without a disc, install and play it on any PC, I get automatic updates, achievements, chat, web browser and whatnot. Steam actually makes the experience better, whereas other forms of DRM at best do nothing, and in some cases become a hindrance to legit customers.

I haven't got a mainstream gamers attention span, I don't feel the need to constantly exchange old games to get the new ones.

I actually take pride in the fact that I still own every game I have ever purchased, even the pre 2000 ones. It's nice to be able to go back and play old games, their game play doesn't deteriate with their graphics.

AnnoyedDragon

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Outside of a few rare sales --- Steam is extremely expensive and absolute garbage they charge €50 for games that can be bought for €15-20

_Pedro_

If you don't like the "ownership" of a downloaded product then just get it retail. Major games on Steam are available at stores too, you can just get them there and sell them if you are done. Not a big deal, just don't use Steam if you don't like the negatives associated with it, though you would miss out on some small time Steam only games.

digital games are awful they better be far cheaper .

digital games are awful they better be far cheaper .

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