Why the freak is this called system wars, if the PC beats everything?

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#51 JiveT
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It would be interesting to see an open platform console. I don't know why third party console developers don't get together with somebody like Toshiba or Philips to make one.

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#52 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The reason the PC beats consoles is because you can upgrade a PCevery year. So hermits win by cheating. :lol:

PS3_3DO

Hey that's not fair. In '06 I gave the PS3 an F- but in 2007 I gave it a C+. If that's not an upgrade I don't know what is.

That has nothing to do with the hardware.PCgames never get better by using the same hardware.

... thats quite possibly the dumbestthing I've ever heard... Crysis on a 7800 GTX looks better than previous games on a 7800 GTX would have... More efficient usage of hardware isn't exclusive to consoles...

So playing on a videocard that came out the same time as the 360 is the same as playing as one that came out last month? :| PC games require more power every year and more Ram is required. This year you need 2gigs to run games smoothly. Next year it's going to be 3gigs I bet. Yeah that is using hardware efficient. :roll:

... of course hardware is going to advance... thats an advantage, but usage of the olderhardware improves over time still.... Thing is, thenewer hardware enables further max settings. And3GB may end up being therecommended in 2 years but for now, its gonna stay at 2GB because thats a lot of RAM. Crysis is only using 1.5GB of RAM even on absolute max settings.

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#53 sonic_rusher
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Can we stop with the fakeboy stuff...

You are just trying to make every PC gamer look bad here...

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so true... im laughing at PC fanboys
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#54 sHaDyCuBe321
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PC doesnt have Mario, Zelda, and Metroid......and I love those three franchises, plus I'm a Mac guy....
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#55 usmcjdk6
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LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

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#56 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The reason the PC beats consoles is because you can upgrade a PCevery year. So hermits win by cheating. :lol:

horrowhip

Hey that's not fair. In '06 I gave the PS3 an F- but in 2007 I gave it a C+. If that's not an upgrade I don't know what is.

That has nothing to do with the hardware. PCgames never get better by using the same hardware.

... thats quite possibly the dumbestthing I've ever heard... Crysis on a 7800 GTX looks better than previous games on a 7800 GTX would have... More efficient usage of hardware isn't exclusive to consoles...

Um Crysis on a 7800gtx runs like absoute crap on high settings. Id rather play UT3 on a 7800gtx on high settings then Crysis on mid UT3 will simply look better unless you are playing on the high settings. PC's simply do not get optmized as well as consoles later down the line.

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#57 Meu2k7
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PC doesnt have Mario, Zelda, and Metroid......and I love those three franchises, plus I'm a Mac guy....sHaDyCuBe321

Surely you can afford a Wii along side a PC? Oh and about the mac bit ... my condolenses :P

LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

usmcjdk6

MEGALOLZ?

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#58 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]The pc doesnt beat anything especially since every pc is differnt. nyoroism
I could change that to "The PC beats everything especially because every PC is different" and it would be just as true.

Um no it wouldnt. Does the pc gamer with 7800gt get to enjoy the same gaming experince as the pc gamer with a 8800gtx? Um no of course notwhich is biggest flaw in the hermit argument about pc gaming owning everything .

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[QUOTE="sHaDyCuBe321"]PC doesnt have Mario, Zelda, and Metroid......and I love those three franchises, plus I'm a Mac guy....Meu2k7

Surely you can afford a Wii along side a PC? Oh and about the mac bit ... my condolenses :P

LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

usmcjdk6

MEGALOLZ?

You don't get any more generic exclusives than the PC market.

That's LOL worthy.

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#60 princeofshapeir
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Classic console fanboy response to this: "But teh PC Gamers are nerds!! All they do is play World of Warcrap and talk about their new GFX Cards!!!"
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#61 horrowhip
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Um Crysis on a 7800gtx runs like absoute crap on high settings. Id rather play UT3 on a 7800gtx on high settings then Crysis on mid UT3 will simply look better unless you are playing on the high settings. PC's simply do not get optmized as well as consoles later down the line.Polaris_choice

... never said that, just said that the hardware does get used more efficiently down the line... Its not like better hardware usage is exclusive to consoles... thing, PC's can be upgraded.

Also, I was just using Crysis as an example, but UT3 is an even better example. UT3 on a 7800 GTX runs at max with like 70 FPS and looks great.

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#62 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]The pc doesnt beat anything especially since every pc is differnt. Polaris_choice

I could change that to "The PC beats everything especially because every PC is different" and it would be just as true.

Um no it wouldnt. Does the pc gamer with 7800gt get to enjoy the same gaming experince as the pc gamer with a 8800gtx? Um no of course notwhich is biggest flaw in the hermit argument about pc gaming owning everything .

I was introduced to UT2004 back in the day when I was PC savvy, on Family PCs ... struggled to get 35 FPS on compeltely lowest settings yet it sparked my love for the game , a few months later ( as this was towards the end of the PCs life 5 years ) when I built my own PC and played it at max, it breathed new life into the game, this also applied to Half-Life 2 & CS and many others.

I can play Crysis on High/Very High (some) at a steady framerate now, and still havea great experiance, then ... 2 years later, everything maxxed effortlessly is just as rewarding, gives you an excuse to play through it again aswell.

But then again im ahead of the curve this time, only Crysis has given my PC a run for its money everything else has beena joke to max ( 16x AA in mind. )

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#63 horrowhip
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You don't get any more generic exclusives than the PC market.

That's LOL worthy.

usmcjdk6

wanna test that statement to the list of AAA and AA games on the PC when compared to each individual console and see who has a more diverse library?

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#64 princeofshapeir
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LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

usmcjdk6

So, you're calling MMORPGs Lol-worthy? These make the PC so awesome!

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#65 Lakers20004life
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PC blows

there are no exclusives that i want. crysis looks cool but ive cool with Gears for the last year, Halo 3 now and COD and UT3 coming up soon. plus they will probably port crysis to 360 just like they did with far cry.

two words mass effect. ill take my PS360Wii over the PC and they cost about the same too.

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#66 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

You don't get any more generic exclusives than the PC market.

That's LOL worthy.

horrowhip

wanna test that statement to the list of AAA and AA games on the PC when compared to each individual console and see who has a more diverse library?

The PC has Crysis.

The 360 has Halo 3.

The PS3 has Resistance.

The Wii has... uh... Red Steel?

In terms of FPS games, we all know which consoles is teh pwnz...

/thread

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#67 cobrax25
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PC blows

there are no exclusives that i want. crysis looks cool but ive cool with Gears for the last year, Halo 3 now and COD and UT3 coming up soon. plus they will probably port crysis to 360 just like they did with far cry.

two words mass effect. ill take my PS360Wii over the PC and they cost about the same too.

Lakers20004life

farcry was never ported....Ubisoft created a spinoff of the game...that was completly different then the original.....

because they couldnt put the open levels unto consoles.

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#68 Meu2k7
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PC blows

there are no exclusives that i want. crysis looks cool but ive cool with Gears for the last year, Halo 3 now and COD and UT3 coming up soon. plus they will probably port crysis to 360 just like they did with far cry.

two words mass effect. ill take my PS360Wii over the PC and they cost about the same too.

Lakers20004life

My PC cost less thanthe 3 consoles combined and the games are nearly 50% less in price :D

But then, your just going to end up calling us dumb and have a tantrum :o

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#69 princeofshapeir
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PC blows

there are no exclusives that i want. crysis looks cool but ive cool with Gears for the last year, Halo 3 now and COD and UT3 coming up soon. plus they will probably port crysis to 360 just like they did with far cry.

two words mass effect. ill take my PS360Wii over the PC and they cost about the same too.

Lakers20004life

So... You don't want Far Cry 2, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, Diablo 2 (it's old, but still awesome), Counter-Strike, Guild Wars, or Hellgate: London?

I feel sorry for you, buddy. :(

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#70 usmcjdk6
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[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

princeofshapeir

So, you're calling MMORPGs Lol-worthy? These make the PC so awesome!

LOL.

Ok.

Start naming the AAA non FPS/RTS games the PC has.

You phail automatically.

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#71 Lakers20004life
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maybe if you love world of war craft and RTS games the PC wins.

but sport games (madden 08, NBA 2k8 are better or for consoles or arent even on PC), racing games (Forza and GT), fighting games (SSBB, Virtual Fighter, Soul Caliber, Tekken etc etc), action adventure games (Ninja Gaiden, GOW), and even RPG ill take on the console. PC never got games like Mario, MG, Zelda, Final Fantasy and now Mass Effect so I give RPG. All the top exclusive franchises are for the consoles.

RTS and MMORPGs are my least favorite games and that is all they offer that they have better than consoles.

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#72 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

usmcjdk6

So, you're calling MMORPGs Lol-worthy? These make the PC so awesome!

LOL.

Ok.

Start naming the AAA non FPS/RTS games the PC has.

You phail automatically.

GTR2. (racer)....

I can just go on and on.

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#73 naval
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PC blows

there are no exclusives that i want. crysis looks cool but ive cool with Gears for the last year, Halo 3 now and COD and UT3 coming up soon. plus they will probably port crysis to 360 just like they did with far cry.

two words mass effect. ill take my PS360Wii over the PC and they cost about the same too.

Lakers20004life

seeing that halo 3 and ME will come to the pc there is not even 1 exclusive on 360 that you want

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#74 usmcjdk6
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[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

cobrax25

So, you're calling MMORPGs Lol-worthy? These make the PC so awesome!

LOL.

Ok.

Start naming the AAA non FPS/RTS games the PC has.

You phail automatically.

GTR2. (racer)....

I can just go on and on.

Good job.

That's one.

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#75 Lakers20004life
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and when is GTA 4 coming for PC.

series if i only had a PC with no consoles i wouldnt even like games.

over the last 2 years they have had 5 exclusive AAAs. 2 are expansions to RTS games, 1 is an expansion to a MMORPG game, 1 is a RTS game and then the only other one is a racing game.

no thanks and then you look down and their highest rated AA games since then a lot more RTS for ya.

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#76 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

usmcjdk6

So, you're calling MMORPGs Lol-worthy? These make the PC so awesome!

LOL.

Ok.

Start naming the AAA non FPS/RTS games the PC has.

You phail automatically.

GTR2. (racer)....

I can just go on and on.

Good job.

That's one.

fine, World Soccer Winning Eleven 9, Oblivion, WOW: BC, galacatic Civ...and thats just since the 360 launch

coincidently the only AAA non-FPS games on the 360 are Oblivion and Forza 2.

being mostly represented by 2 generes is a lot beter then being represented by one.

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#77 horrowhip
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maybe if you love world of war craft and RTS games the PC wins.

but sport games (madden 08, NBA 2k8 are better or for consoles or arent even on PC), racing games (Forza and GT), fighting games (SSBB, Virtual Fighter, Soul Caliber, Tekken etc etc), action adventure games (Ninja Gaiden, GOW), and even RPG ill take on the console. PC never got games like Mario, MG, Zelda, Final Fantasy and now Mass Effect so I give RPG. All the top exclusive franchises are for the consoles.

RTS and MMORPGs are my least favorite games and that is all they offer that they have better than consoles.

Lakers20004life

Actually... racing game has been on the PC so far this gen... GTR2 is an AMAZING Racing Sim.

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#78 Meu2k7
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maybe if you love world of war craft and RTS games the PC wins.

but sport games (madden 08, NBA 2k8 are better or for consoles or arent even on PC), racing games (Forza and GT), fighting games (SSBB, Virtual Fighter, Soul Caliber, Tekken etc etc), action adventure games (Ninja Gaiden, GOW), and even RPG ill take on the console. PC never got games like Mario, MG, Zelda, Final Fantasy and now Mass Effect so I give RPG. All the top exclusive franchises are for the consoles.

RTS and MMORPGs are my least favorite games and that is all they offer that they have better than consoles.

Lakers20004life

And Adventures , FPS , TBS , OStrategies , Puzzles , Arcade Games ( Muhahahhaaha I mean ... errr I dont do that kinda thing .... I dont play Majoras Mask as we speak )

*Giggles like a school girl*

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

LOL @ PC fighting games.

LOL @ PC platforming games.

LOL @ any PC game that's not an FPS or RTS.

LOL.

usmcjdk6

So, you're calling MMORPGs Lol-worthy? These make the PC so awesome!

LOL.

Ok.

Start naming the AAA non FPS/RTS games the PC has.

You phail automatically.

GTR2. (racer)....

I can just go on and on.

Good job.

That's one.

Good Job, you can count! I can count to 3 personally but it gets difficult from there :(

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#79 blahzor
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Answer to the topic title: Because it does not.

the best system is not determined by the number of AAA and AA games as given by gamespot. If it was, option 1 would have won.. but option 3 did. Therefore, other factors matter(ie; diversity of library, unique games, that is to say that sometimes games that don't score incredible may actually be EXTREMELY important to a library still; ie hotel dusk for the ds)

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#80 Meu2k7
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and when is GTA 4 coming for PC.

series if i only had a PC with no consoles i wouldnt even like games.

over the last 2 years they have had 5 exclusive AAAs. 2 are expansions to RTS games, 1 is an expansion to a MMORPG game, 1 is a RTS game and then the only other one is a racing game.

no thanks and then you look down and their highest rated AA games since then a lot more RTS for ya.

Lakers20004life

GTA4 will be o nthe PC 7 months later, as it is written since SONY bought away GTA3 ... scums.

Whos needs GTA4? I havnt finished with all the mods for GTA : SA yet :lol: I can wait.