Why the Xbox 360 doesn't need many exclusives to outdo the PS3.

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#51 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] your right, people hardly make threads ragging on a console because they got RROD and got the wrong package.1stPlaceWinner

are you new here or something?the 360 has been bashed mercilessly over the RROD issue.

But I'm talking about ragging on the console because of getting the RROD and then complaining over getting the wrong package, ive made that pretty obvious

you responded to me. i'm not talking about receiving the wrong package. i'm talking hardware failure.

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#52 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Um, yes? The exclusives at least have something to do with the system.

Ragging on ps3 because his tv got busted in shipping would be like ragging on 360 because his computer blue screened.

topgunmv

did you not see his mention of ylod?

I did, but the point of my post was to address what you ignored.

i ignored the "broken tv" part of his post...the part that had nothing to do with the system.i don't see what the problem is.

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#53 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

To be fair, the RROD is far more prominent. So much so that MS was forced to extend the warranty and offer free repairs.

Heirren

why should that matter?

Because all electronics have problems. It is pretty obvious that the RROD was a pretty big deal with the 360.

it's a big deal for anybody whose system fails. why would it be okay to complain about RROD happening to you but not YLOD?

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

are you new here or something?the 360 has been bashed mercilessly over the RROD issue.

CaseyWegner

But I'm talking about ragging on the console because of getting the RROD and then complaining over getting the wrong package, ive made that pretty obvious

you responded to me. i'm not talking about receiving the wrong package. i'm talking hardware failure.

But that's what the guy you quoted was talking about, and the part that tc was angry about, getting a tv in the mail, why ignore that part?
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why should that matter?

CaseyWegner

Because all electronics have problems. It is pretty obvious that the RROD was a pretty big deal with the 360.

it's a big deal for anybody whose system fails. why would it be okay to complain about RROD happening to you but not YLOD?

probably due to the fact RROD is more possible to get then YLOD..idk i cant speak for everyone

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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

did you not see his mention of ylod?

CaseyWegner

I did, but the point of my post was to address what you ignored.

i ignored the "broken tv" part of his post...the part that had nothing to do with the system.i don't see what the problem is.

Well, because you asked how that post was different than complaining about something on the 360. Half the post, the broken tv part, is how it was different.

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#57 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] But I'm talking about ragging on the console because of getting the RROD and then complaining over getting the wrong package, ive made that pretty obvious1stPlaceWinner

you responded to me. i'm not talking about receiving the wrong package. i'm talking hardware failure.

But that's what the guy you quoted was talking about, and the part that tc was angry about, getting a tv in the mail, why ignore that part?

because it had nothing to do with the ps3 and was only the second part he mentioned.

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#58 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I did, but the point of my post was to address what you ignored.

topgunmv

i ignored the "broken tv" part of his post...the part that had nothing to do with the system.i don't see what the problem is.

Well, because you asked how that post was different than complaining about something on the 360. Half the post, the broken tv part, is how it was different.

the point was that it was a personal experience being complained about.

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#59 wolverine_97
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All that article did was talk about sales. Good luck playing your sales, statistics and other numbers!
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you responded to me. i'm not talking about receiving the wrong package. i'm talking hardware failure.

CaseyWegner

But that's what the guy you quoted was talking about, and the part that tc was angry about, getting a tv in the mail, why ignore that part?

because it had nothing to do with the ps3 and was only the second part he mentioned.

What does it matter if it's the second part, it's the entire sentence people are talking about here, him ragging on Sony and the PS3.
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http://whatculture.com/gaming/why-the-xbox-360-doesn%e2%80%99t-need-exclusive-titles.php

Personally I think this is because the 360 is used more often as a dedicated gaming machine than the PS3.

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Well, I totally disagree with this. First of all Nintendo was the E3 this year and last year. Sony really didn't have many surprises. The Vita is nice, but we all knew about it many, many months before it was shown at the E3. Heck, we even knew it would be called the Vita. Sony had a few exclusive game surprises, but nothing like GTA IV exclusive content on the XBox 360 or DKC, 007 and Kirby on the Wii last year. They were still missing key titles like Last Guardian and FF XIII vs for a second year in a row. So no, Sony didn't win. They did beat Microsoft however and it was mainly because they didn't show any new exclusives and too much Kinect stuff. No price cut. No handheld announcements. Only surprise was Minecraft on XBox 360 and that's not even exclusive. Everyone was disappointed at what M$ showed.
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[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

http://whatculture.com/gaming/why-the-xbox-360-doesn%e2%80%99t-need-exclusive-titles.php

Personally I think this is because the 360 is used more often as a dedicated gaming machine than the PS3.

blackace
Well, I totally disagree with this. First of all Nintendo was the E3 this year and last year. Sony really didn't have many surprises. The Vita is nice, but we all knew about it many, many months before it was shown at the E3. Heck, we even knew it would be called the Vita. Sony had a few exclusive game surprises, but nothing like GTA IV exclusive content on the XBox 360 or DKC, 007 and Kirby on the Wii last year. They were still missing key titles like Last Guardian and FF XIII vs for a second year in a row. So no, Sony didn't win. They did beat Microsoft however and it was mainly because they didn't show any new exclusives and too much Kinect stuff. No price cut. No handheld announcements. Only surprise was Minecraft on XBox 360 and that's not even exclusive. Everyone was disappointed at what M$ showed.

Sony crushed Nintendo at E3 this year and last year. Last year the only thing Nintendo had was the 3ds and the 3DS has been a total failure up untill now. And this year Nintendo's E3 was just facepalm after facepalm. The Wii U showing was the biggest failure ever. And no Wii at all. Just a big fail. Sony showed exclusives, multiplats, features, the Vita looked amazing and had an amazing price.
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#63 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] But that's what the guy you quoted was talking about, and the part that tc was angry about, getting a tv in the mail, why ignore that part?1stPlaceWinner

because it had nothing to do with the ps3 and was only the second part he mentioned.

What does it matter if it's the second part, it's the entire sentence people are talking about here, him ragging on Sony and the PS3.

so what? he complained about it and that's what i made my comparison to as it's the part that's, ya know, relevant to this forum.

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[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Plain and Simple, Microsoft Marketing.

I agree Microsoft could probably sell ice in the North Pole. That's why they have become one of the richest companies in the world while selling low quality products.

Same thing for Sony. ever bought a Vaio? And what about peole who paid for PSN+ and then were down for a month. Besides, Microsoft's Windows isn't used by millons of people and buisinesses because its LOW quality, its because it is the best PC OS. I'd even be willing to bet that your computer that you are using right now runs Windows, unless you buy into overpriced Aplle crap.

Paud for PSN+ and then it was down for a month, yeah it sucked.. and guess what.. We were reimbursed for it fully. Imagine that.
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#65 blackace
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]That's all perfectly fine and dandy, but as a gamer my PS3-PC combo is better then any 360-something combo imo.dipsetboy17
this is the only correct answer.

You mean this is the only correct opinion in your eyes. Because it's not a fact. Not everyone feels this way. For me I'll take XBox 360, PS3 and Wii over anything that's on a PC. Not everyone cares for PS3 games (even their exclusives).
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because it had nothing to do with the ps3 and was only the second part he mentioned.

CaseyWegner

What does it matter if it's the second part, it's the entire sentence people are talking about here, him ragging on Sony and the PS3.

so what? he complained about it and that's what i made my comparison to as it's the part that's, ya know, relevant to this forum.

He also is mad at something not related to the gaming forum, and ragged on Sony and the PS3 about it, I don't see how thats the same as complaining about exclusives.
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#67 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Plagueless"]

http://whatculture.com/gaming/why-the-xbox-360-doesn%e2%80%99t-need-exclusive-titles.php

Personally I think this is because the 360 is used more often as a dedicated gaming machine than the PS3.

DrWin
Well, I totally disagree with this. First of all Nintendo was the E3 this year and last year. Sony really didn't have many surprises. The Vita is nice, but we all knew about it many, many months before it was shown at the E3. Heck, we even knew it would be called the Vita. Sony had a few exclusive game surprises, but nothing like GTA IV exclusive content on the XBox 360 or DKC, 007 and Kirby on the Wii last year. They were still missing key titles like Last Guardian and FF XIII vs for a second year in a row. So no, Sony didn't win. They did beat Microsoft however and it was mainly because they didn't show any new exclusives and too much Kinect stuff. No price cut. No handheld announcements. Only surprise was Minecraft on XBox 360 and that's not even exclusive. Everyone was disappointed at what M$ showed.

Sony crushed Nintendo at E3 this year and last year. Last year the only thing Nintendo had was the 3ds and the 3DS has been a total failure up untill now. And this year Nintendo's E3 was just facepalm after facepalm. The Wii U showing was the biggest failure ever. And no Wii at all. Just a big fail. Sony showed exclusives, multiplats, features, the Vita looked amazing and had an amazing price.

Sony lost. Even Gamespot said so. I know it's had for cows to accept 2 loses in a row, but it happens.
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[QUOTE="dipsetboy17"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]That's all perfectly fine and dandy, but as a gamer my PS3-PC combo is better then any 360-something combo imo.blackace
this is the only correct answer.

You mean this is the only correct opinion in your eyes. Because it's not a fact. Not everyone feels this way. For me I'll take XBox 360, PS3 and Wii over anything that's on a PC. Not everyone cares for PS3 games (even their exclusives).

I'm pretty sure people say they don't care because they simply don't have access to them. Cause that doesn't make any sense, as a gamer, how can you not be interested in AAA Blockbuster award winning games? If they were on your platform of choice you'd hold a different opinion about them 99% of the time. This goes for all platforms obviously.
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="blackace"] Well, I totally disagree with this. First of all Nintendo was the E3 this year and last year. Sony really didn't have many surprises. The Vita is nice, but we all knew about it many, many months before it was shown at the E3. Heck, we even knew it would be called the Vita. Sony had a few exclusive game surprises, but nothing like GTA IV exclusive content on the XBox 360 or DKC, 007 and Kirby on the Wii last year. They were still missing key titles like Last Guardian and FF XIII vs for a second year in a row. So no, Sony didn't win. They did beat Microsoft however and it was mainly because they didn't show any new exclusives and too much Kinect stuff. No price cut. No handheld announcements. Only surprise was Minecraft on XBox 360 and that's not even exclusive. Everyone was disappointed at what M$ showed.

Sony crushed Nintendo at E3 this year and last year. Last year the only thing Nintendo had was the 3ds and the 3DS has been a total failure up untill now. And this year Nintendo's E3 was just facepalm after facepalm. The Wii U showing was the biggest failure ever. And no Wii at all. Just a big fail. Sony showed exclusives, multiplats, features, the Vita looked amazing and had an amazing price.

Sony lost. Even Gamespot said so. I know it's had for cows to accept 2 loses in a row, but it happens.

Gamers said Sony > Nintendo. You can look at it from various points of view, from the gamer point of view Sony was better. Polls all of the internet agreed. Also link to gamespot saying it was better' I'd love to see their reasoning...
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As a gamer, it's hard for me to justify Sales as the reason I'm not getting and playing 360 exclusives. Times have changed, and after struggling with 3RRODs and one E74, I unfortunately use my 360 a lot more for exclusives these days for the most part, so this lack of exclusives is a bummer for me. It's a bummer thinking that I'm not getting games because marketing is more important than the games themselves. The 360 had such a wonderful GAMING start this generation, I'm not going to justify lack of games because sales, or Kinect.

Is that what it's coming down to? Sales and Marketing is now more important to us, the Gamers?...not for me, I've said it before, I'll say it again. I come to SW to chat about Games with GAMERS.

Besides, that article relies on VGCharts....lol.

Even going with his VGCharts links and VGCharts logic (lol), his examples are BulletStorm (Even I played on 360 for GeoW3 Beta) which came out the same time as Killzone 3...what do you think PS3 owners were going to buy?

L.A. Noire's Sales released in the U.S. first, so it's sales are going to be 360 leaning which the 360 has a huge 10 million install base lead in the U.S.

Many users had a lot to say about this article (at whatculture, I've never heard of them till today), but I will post two :

User "cmon now" : "This article is a little misinfromed.

Firstly when comparing Bulletstorm on each console i would ask that you remember what cam out on the same day, KILLZONE 3, one of the ps3′s big release's. Both were FPS and Killzone had alot more hype and in my opinion was the better game. Bulletstorm alos had included a Gears 3 beta, which is big news to xbox gamers. La Noir's numbers provided were for North America, where Xbox has a 10 million hardware lead, and this number does not included Europe or Japan where the game is being released next week. Also third party games wont sell as well on the PS3 becuase of the slew of exlcusives that are coming out. what should i buy, Killzone, Infamous, Dc Universe, LBP, Yakuza or Brink. hmm, i will choose Brink. Remember PS3 fanboys beleieve that console exclusives play and look better (i would agree in some cases). So when writing a story such as this look at the big picture."

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User "Chris" :"Sure games do sell slightly better on 360 but that is because of 2 reasons.

1) Ps3 owners buy the Sony exclusives instead, thus detracting from most multiplatform game sales

2) The 360 still has a larger userbase, more people = more games sold. It has a much larger userbase in America which alot of game sales are procured from.

Additionally, Bulletstorm came out on the same day as Killzone 3, (nice choice there epic!) So of course every PS3 user got Killzone, (which outsold Bulletstorm on 360). Alternatively very few Ps3 users got Bulletstorm. Nice cherry picking on that one.And despite the larger user base and less competing exclusives, there are some 3rd party game which have sold better on PS3."

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Just remember, it's great that both machines are doing well, but I think it's with all the raw profits and millions, if not billions that Xbox LIVE is raking in...it would be more admirable if we saw some more Xbox exclusives. The money is there, why not make some games for us Xbox Gamers? Ironically, Sony, the company that is seemingly having a rough time financially this generation is pumping out quality games for us to play.

As a gamer, I'm thankful that games are literally being created so I can play them...even if sadly, my favorite games don't bring the Madden/COD/Halo/Mario/Gran Turismo types of sales, it's okay. It's all about the games FOR ME, and I would hope it would be about the games for US gamers. Obviously, it's all about the sales for the companies.



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[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="dipsetboy17"] this is the only correct answer.

You mean this is the only correct opinion in your eyes. Because it's not a fact. Not everyone feels this way. For me I'll take XBox 360, PS3 and Wii over anything that's on a PC. Not everyone cares for PS3 games (even their exclusives).

I'm pretty sure people say they don't care because they simply don't have access to them. Cause that doesn't make any sense, as a gamer, how can you not be interested in AAA Blockbuster award winning games? If they were on your platform of choice you'd hold a different opinion about them 99% of the time. This goes for all platforms obviously.

Well, that's probably part of it. Some gamers just to like Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo and will never buy their platform, no matter what game is on it. Same goes for the PC obviously. That's my point. Not everyone has the same opinion. There are great exclusives on all 4 platforms, but gamers may now like them all. I'm not interested in ever "AAA" Blockbuster. I didn't care for MGS IV or KZ2 much. Even if they were on another platform, I'd still feel the same.
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#72 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] What does it matter if it's the second part, it's the entire sentence people are talking about here, him ragging on Sony and the PS3.1stPlaceWinner

so what? he complained about it and that's what i made my comparison to as it's the part that's, ya know, relevant to this forum.

He also is mad at something not related to the gaming forum, and ragged on Sony and the PS3 about it, I don't see how thats the same as complaining about exclusives.

faulty hardware = personal for him

not liking exclusives = personal for anybody complaining about them

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

so what? he complained about it and that's what i made my comparison to as it's the part that's, ya know, relevant to this forum.

CaseyWegner

He also is mad at something not related to the gaming forum, and ragged on Sony and the PS3 about it, I don't see how thats the same as complaining about exclusives.

faulty hardware = personal for him

not liking exclusives = personal for anybody complaining about them

its not that people dont like exclusives its that there is less coming out for the 360, two different things
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[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="DrWin"] Sony crushed Nintendo at E3 this year and last year. Last year the only thing Nintendo had was the 3ds and the 3DS has been a total failure up untill now. And this year Nintendo's E3 was just facepalm after facepalm. The Wii U showing was the biggest failure ever. And no Wii at all. Just a big fail. Sony showed exclusives, multiplats, features, the Vita looked amazing and had an amazing price.

Sony lost. Even Gamespot said so. I know it's had for cows to accept 2 loses in a row, but it happens.

Gamers said Sony > Nintendo. You can look at it from various points of view, from the gamer point of view Sony was better. Polls all of the internet agreed. Also link to gamespot saying it was better' I'd love to see their reasoning...

Done: Nintendo: Grade A- http://www.gamespot.com/features/6318101/e3-2011-nintendo-press-conference-report-card Sony: Grade B http://www.gamespot.com/features/6317488/e3-2011-sony-press-conference-report-card Even gamers agreed on here. lol!! http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28596378 Like I said, Sony lost this E3 again..
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="blackace"] Sony lost. Even Gamespot said so. I know it's had for cows to accept 2 loses in a row, but it happens.

Gamers said Sony > Nintendo. You can look at it from various points of view, from the gamer point of view Sony was better. Polls all of the internet agreed. Also link to gamespot saying it was better' I'd love to see their reasoning...

Done: Nintendo: Grade A- http://www.gamespot.com/features/6318101/e3-2011-nintendo-press-conference-report-card Sony: Grade B http://www.gamespot.com/features/6317488/e3-2011-sony-press-conference-report-card Even gamers agreed on here. lol!! http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28596378 Like I said, Sony lost this E3 again..

thats an old poll before e3
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#76 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] He also is mad at something not related to the gaming forum, and ragged on Sony and the PS3 about it, I don't see how thats the same as complaining about exclusives.1stPlaceWinner

faulty hardware = personal for him

not liking exclusives = personal for anybody complaining about them

its not that people dont like exclusives its that there is less coming out for the 360, two different things

first you said people don't complain about RROD and now you say they don't complain about the quality of 360 exclusives? :|

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

faulty hardware = personal for him

not liking exclusives = personal for anybody complaining about them

CaseyWegner

its not that people dont like exclusives its that there is less coming out for the 360, two different things

first you said people don't complain about RROD and now you say they don't complain about the quality of 360 exclusives? :|

i did not say either of those, it's the lack of them that i said
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Plain and Simple, Microsoft Marketing.

kuraimen

I agree Microsoft could probably sell ice in the North Pole. That's why they have become one of the richest companies in the world while selling low quality products.

I think it's more in their lack of competition, at least at the onset of DOS and Windows, and about their aggressive (and often times unethical) business practices (bundling software with their OS).

When Windows came out as a GUI, their only real competition was OS/2, which stunk. Apple will never be overly competitive in the PC arena until their prices come down. Who, other than dorks that want to be trendy and graphic artists, would spendtwice as muchon an Apple vs. a Windows machine? Now, everyone is familiar with Windows and won't switch to MAC OS or Linux.

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#79 DrWin
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="blackace"] Sony lost. Even Gamespot said so. I know it's had for cows to accept 2 loses in a row, but it happens.

Gamers said Sony > Nintendo. You can look at it from various points of view, from the gamer point of view Sony was better. Polls all of the internet agreed. Also link to gamespot saying it was better' I'd love to see their reasoning...

Done: Nintendo: Grade A- Sony: Grade B Even gamers agreed on here. lol!! Like I said, Sony lost this E3 again..

That poll was asking who "WILL" win. It's from before E3. A simple "Who won E3" search. Even here on this very forum they said Sony won, and judging by the lack of Microsoft votes and the hate I see 360 fans give to Sony fans, I'm pretty sure the poll is only so close because 360 fans rather make Nintendo look good just so Sony doesn't clean house and they get more flak. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28699191/official-e3-discussion-thread---keep-it-here---new-poll-who-won-e3 http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/117/1175199p1.html http://www.digitalbusstop.com/who-won-e3-2011-microsoft-vs-sony-vs-nintendo/ http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/06/07/actually-sony-won-e3-with-the-vita/
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#80 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] its not that people dont like exclusives its that there is less coming out for the 360, two different things1stPlaceWinner

first you said people don't complain about RROD and now you say they don't complain about the quality of 360 exclusives? :|

i did not say either of those, it's the lack of them that i said

okay. there has been no lack in complaints about RROD and there has been no lack in complaints about the quality and number of exclusives.

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#81 blackace
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] its not that people dont like exclusives its that there is less coming out for the 360, two different things1stPlaceWinner

first you said people don't complain about RROD and now you say they don't complain about the quality of 360 exclusives? :|

i did not say either of those, it's the lack of them that i said

They definitely need more exclusives. Microsoft is concentrating to much on Kinect and Live T.V. They need to hire Ed Fries back. He was all about exclusive games.
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#82 blackace
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[QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="DrWin"] Gamers said Sony > Nintendo. You can look at it from various points of view, from the gamer point of view Sony was better. Polls all of the internet agreed. Also link to gamespot saying it was better' I'd love to see their reasoning...

Done: Nintendo: Grade A- Sony: Grade B Even gamers agreed on here. lol!! Like I said, Sony lost this E3 again..

That poll was asking who "WILL" win. It's from before E3. A simple "Who won E3" search. Even here on this very forum they said Sony won, and judging by the lack of Microsoft votes and the hate I see 360 fans give to Sony fans, I'm pretty sure the poll is only so close because 360 fans rather make Nintendo look good just so Sony doesn't clean house and they get more flak. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28699191/official-e3-discussion-thread---keep-it-here---new-poll-who-won-e3 http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/117/1175199p1.html http://www.digitalbusstop.com/who-won-e3-2011-microsoft-vs-sony-vs-nintendo/ http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/06/07/actually-sony-won-e3-with-the-vita/

*********************************************************************************************** Did you read the Report Cards? http://www.readyuplive.com/showthread.php/7034-So-who-won-E3-2011http://www.qj.net/pov/wii/pov-who-won-e3-2011.htmlhttp://nintendo3dsblog.com/nintendo-won-e3-says-famitsu-pollhttp://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=2317942
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#83 DrWin
Member since 2011 • 217 Posts
[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="DrWin"][QUOTE="blackace"] Done: Nintendo: Grade A- Sony: Grade B Even gamers agreed on here. lol!! Like I said, Sony lost this E3 again..

That poll was asking who "WILL" win. It's from before E3. A simple "Who won E3" search. Even here on this very forum they said Sony won, and judging by the lack of Microsoft votes and the hate I see 360 fans give to Sony fans, I'm pretty sure the poll is only so close because 360 fans rather make Nintendo look good just so Sony doesn't clean house and they get more flak. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28699191/official-e3-discussion-thread---keep-it-here---new-poll-who-won-e3 http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/117/1175199p1.html http://www.digitalbusstop.com/who-won-e3-2011-microsoft-vs-sony-vs-nintendo/ http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/06/07/actually-sony-won-e3-with-the-vita/

*********************************************************************************************** Did you read the Report Cards?

Dude no offense but my links are way more credible, your first link is a 2 page forum thread with a poll wit like 20 votes. Your second link is a forum thread with 3 pages, your third link is a nintendo fan site... Saying that Nintedo won because of the Wii U is just faceplam. The Vita has a way better showing. And even if one nulifies the other, Sony showed other games, for other platforms, Nintendo didn't.
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#84 Masenkoe
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To quote Super Size Me, the most advertised foods are the ones most consumed.

Microsoft and Nintendo do a lot more advertising than Sony... therefore their consoles sell better.

/thread

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#85 guardofdead
Member since 2008 • 284 Posts

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Plain and Simple, Microsoft Marketing.

Plagueless

I agree Microsoft could probably sell ice in the North Pole. That's why they have become one of the richest companies in the world while selling low quality products.

Same thing for Sony. ever bought a Vaio? And what about peole who paid for PSN+ and then were down for a month. Besides, Microsoft's Windows isn't used by millons of people and buisinesses because its LOW quality, its because it is the best PC OS. I'd even be willing to bet that your computer that you are using right now runs Windows, unless you buy into overpriced Aplle crap.

i own a new vaio, i have beat the hell out of my laptop and it still ticks. its performance is second to none. so i dont see where your coming from saying my vaio is low quality. i have run out of space on my ps3 from all the games i have downloaded from being a ps+ member so i dont see how this is low quality... windows is used by millions because it is simple, so it wont matter if its low quality or not. your think fred working at the quicky mart down the street is going to be able to use fedora or ubuntu? i dont think so.

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#86 LOXO7
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Good read. I guess MS makes the most at what they have, third party games. I couldn't see Sony doing this in MS's position. They would probably just leave gaming if it would ever happen. Good job MicroSoft!
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#87 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"] What does it matter if it's the second part, it's the entire sentence people are talking about here, him ragging on Sony and the PS3.1stPlaceWinner

so what? he complained about it and that's what i made my comparison to as it's the part that's, ya know, relevant to this forum.

He also is mad at something not related to the gaming forum, and ragged on Sony and the PS3 about it, I don't see how thats the same as complaining about exclusives.

Funny, i dont see you get this bent out of shape when the usual "all things MS" hate posts start flying, its ok to hate on MS for any reason on SW but you can only express disapointment in Sony's gaming division while on these forums ?.

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#88 TheMoreYouOwn
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Exclusives have, and always will matter so long as there are competing consoles. If a system suffers from lack of quantity or quality exclusives, the brand suffers as a whole.
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#89 soulitane
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I don't care about it outdoing the PS3, just give me more games.
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#90 -ArchAngeL-777-
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Funny this article points at a couple of games like Bulletstorm and LA Noire. So far that I have seen, its hit or miss as to which game sells better on which platform. The shooters usually do sell better on 360. Other genres...not so much. Games like Burnout Paradise, Batman AA, FIFA Soccer, Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe, etc. sell better on PS3. Others are basically even like the last two Assassins Creed games and the NFS series. Then there are games like Mirror's Edge and Portal 2 that sell better on 360. Honestly I would expect multiplatform games to sell better on 360 for two reasons: 1) There still is a larger gamer install base on 360. Many of the early PS3s were sold to people wanting to mainly use it for Blu-ray since it was the cheapest and best blu-ray player at the time. 2) With long stretches between major exclusive releases, what else is a 360 owner going to buy? Look at this year. OK Bulletstorm and LA Noire sold better on 360 (actually LA Noire was just barely). But when you consider Bulletstorm was released around the time Little Big Planet 2 and Killzone 3, is it really surprising 360 sold more copies? Same with LA Noire (Socom 4, Motorstorm Apocalypse and Infamous 2 releasing close).
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#91 Silverbond
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360 doesn't need to outdo the PS3. It just has to give me the games.

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#92 ZombieKiller7
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If you put out exclusive : A

People buy multiplats : B C D E F

If you put out exclusives : A B C D E F

People don't buy : G H I J K L M

Bulletstorm came out almost at the same time as KZ3, what you gonna buy? KZ3 of course.

360 users didn't have KZ3 so they bought Bulletstorm.

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#93 nervmeister
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MS doesn't need them because they are very good at advertising multiplats as if they were exclusive to their console.
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#94 Vaultl101egend
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Too bad I cant play "Sales"...Its the exclusives that matter and the Xbox hasn't got many games coming out in the future. Whilst the PS3 does.Moon__Light

Ohhh, I guess that means Alan Wake Night Springs, Too Human 2,Geow 3, Halo remake, Halo 4, Steel Bat:Heavy armour, Forza 4, pgr5, And Demons of Mercy arn't coming out. I am Dissapoint.... :(

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#95 Floppy_Jim
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Holy cherry-picked cat crap, Batman! Western games/shooters selling better on 360.

Funny thing is they like using VGC so much yet that very site has PS3 selling more software in 2011 than 360 and ruining the point they were trying to make.

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#96 KevinPlanet
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That article is completely asinine..

1. Basically every multiplatform game that comes out on the 360 is available for the PS3

2. Many of those multiplats sell only marginally better than the PS3. The 360 is not selling (total) 50% more multiplatform games than the PS3, if that were the case, and it isn't, Sony would be working aggressively harder to fix that disparity

3. Microsoft only collects $10 off of every multiplat sold on their system, that isn't going to pad their proverbial wallets all that much more than Sony's

4. Vgchartz? Really...

Did Microsoft win the last generation doing this tactic? No. Just because Microsoft doesn't feel the need to make exclusives doesn't mean that they're all of a sudden dead...since when did they become the authority of gaming? Nintendo and Sony have been making exclusives for more than a decade and have done great. What will Microsoft do in the next generation if Sony launches with a cheaper price point than Microsoft? People are gonna buy the system that's cheaper and if there are exclusive games at launch those games will sell very well. Microsoft shouldn't be able to skate by without giving people a reason to buy their system.

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#97 KevinPlanet
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[QUOTE="Moon__Light"]Too bad I cant play "Sales"...Its the exclusives that matter and the Xbox hasn't got many games coming out in the future. Whilst the PS3 does.Vaultl101egend

Ohhh, I guess that means Alan Wake Night Springs, Too Human 2,Geow 3, Halo remake, Halo 4, Steel Bat:Heavy armour, Forza 4, pgr5, And Demons of Mercy arn't coming out. I am Dissapoint.... :(



I wasn't aware Alan Wake Night Springsm, PGR5 and Too Human 2 were coming out....cause they don't exist

Microsoft's lineup is stale, Halo, Halo, Halo, Fable, Fable, Fable, Kinect garbage, and multiplats....their XBL downloadable games however are great but not worth the sales they've been getting.

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#98 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I agree Microsoft could probably sell ice in the North Pole. That's why they have become one of the richest companies in the world while selling low quality products.guardofdead

Same thing for Sony. ever bought a Vaio? And what about peole who paid for PSN+ and then were down for a month. Besides, Microsoft's Windows isn't used by millons of people and buisinesses because its LOW quality, its because it is the best PC OS. I'd even be willing to bet that your computer that you are using right now runs Windows, unless you buy into overpriced Aplle crap.

i own a new vaio, i have beat the hell out of my laptop and it still ticks. its performance is second to none. so i dont see where your coming from saying my vaio is low quality. i have run out of space on my ps3 from all the games i have downloaded from being a ps+ member so i dont see how this is low quality... windows is used by millions because it is simple, so it wont matter if its low quality or not. your think fred working at the quicky mart down the street is going to be able to use fedora or ubuntu? i dont think so.

Oh I think that Fred is perfectly capable of using Ubuntu or Fedora. Linux has become very user-friendly with the years. The only thing keeping Fred from finding it easy is that he is not familiarized enough with it. I'm sure that if he grows up with Linux as he grew up with Windows he would probably end up finding Linux easier than Windows.
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#99 Vaultl101egend
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[QUOTE="Vaultl101egend"]

[QUOTE="Moon__Light"]Too bad I cant play "Sales"...Its the exclusives that matter and the Xbox hasn't got many games coming out in the future. Whilst the PS3 does.KevinPlanet

Ohhh, I guess that means Alan Wake Night Springs, Too Human 2,Geow 3, Halo remake, Halo 4, Steel Bat:Heavy armour, Forza 4, pgr5, And Demons of Mercy arn't coming out. I am Dissapoint.... :(



I wasn't aware Alan Wake Night Springsm, PGR5 and Too Human 2 were coming out....cause they don't exist

Microsoft's lineup is stale, Halo, Halo, Halo, Fable, Fable, Fable, Kinect garbage, and multiplats....their XBL downloadable games however are great but not worth the sales they've been getting.

Alan Wake Night Springs:Confirmed by remedy, Release date Fall 2011 (They'll probably push that back though)

PGR5:Confirmed by Microsoft, release date: ????

Too Human, confirmed by Microsoft AND Silicon nights, release date mid 2012.

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#100 EggHeadMan
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[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="Vaultl101egend"]

Ohhh, I guess that means Alan Wake Night Springs, Too Human 2,Geow 3, Halo remake, Halo 4, Steel Bat:Heavy armour, Forza 4, pgr5, And Demons of Mercy arn't coming out. I am Dissapoint.... :(

Vaultl101egend



I wasn't aware Alan Wake Night Springsm, PGR5 and Too Human 2 were coming out....cause they don't exist

Microsoft's lineup is stale, Halo, Halo, Halo, Fable, Fable, Fable, Kinect garbage, and multiplats....their XBL downloadable games however are great but not worth the sales they've been getting.

Alan Wake Night Springs:Confirmed by remedy, Release date Fall 2011 (They'll probably push that back though)

PGR5:Confirmed by Microsoft, release date: ????

Too Human, confirmed by Microsoft AND Silicon nights, release date mid 2012.

Do you have any links too support your argument?