Why Too Human is better than you think

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#51 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="stepat201"]Same thread over and over again. It's like we're not allowed to have an opinion on this game unless it's a good one! stepat201

Kinda hard to formulate an opinion when all you've played are 1% of the overall game, if even.

I'm tired of this excuse too. I hated the gameplay. That's it. End of story. I'm not going to like it magically if I play the rest of the game.

You haven't SEEN very much of the gameplay. From what we've heard, it changes quite considerably over the course of the game.
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#52 thepwninator
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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]you shouldn't have to play a game through to like it. it should be fun to play the first time through, and that is something it is not IMO. this game is severely flawed.stepat201

We're saying you should play through the demo a few times to get a feel for it, as is the article.

Gamers these days-they want instant gratification. Back in ye oldenne days-my heyday-you had games like Baldur's Gate 2, in which you didn't even level up the first time or get decent equipment for over an hour, you had games like System Shock 2 that didn't even give you a chance to viably customize your character until almost three hours in (the stuff before that was just token survivability stuff like endurance and standard weapons), you had games like Half-Life in which you didn't even fight an enemy for over fifteen minutes, and, of course, games like Fallout 2 in which your first hour was spent killing geckos and ants with spears. Instant gratification isn't the only way to enjoy games.

IT's not about instant gratification... it's about making a good first impression... which TH does not.

None of the games I mentioned did that either, with the exception of BG2-Half-Life's beginning had my brother and I thinking the game would be rather boring, Fallout 2's had me thinking that if the rest of the game were as boring as that, the money I had spent was well-wasted, and SS2's had me wondering how the hell I could possibly not make a broken character. Some games don't draw you in well or even give decent first impressions, but end up being truly amazing. And I have seen many people say something along the lines of "I played it for ten minutes and immediately deleted it", and if that's not indicative of a generation of gamers that knows nothing but instant gratification, I don't know what is.

Actually both Half-Life and System Shock 2 had great intros that really sucked me into the games. Half-Life is still the best opening sequence of all time IMO.

Fallout 2 was boring in the start and it never stopped being boring. *puts up anti-nostalgia flameshield*

I never particularly saw how the entire ride on a tram then waltz through the laboratory gave a great first impression, though on subsequent playthroughs I saw how it contributed to the entire atmosphere of the game. System Shock 2 may have had a good intro, but the first level could easily be a grueling affair, especially for the very, very, very many of us who chose broken builds, which forced many to start over. It may have had a good intro, but it definitely did not leave a good first impression. Fallout 2 is debatable-my brother played through about half of it and thought "wow-why on earth did I do that?"while I thoroughly enjoyed it. The point is, though, that first impressions aren't always the end impressions-every single one of the aforementioned games is in my top ten list right now, even though I thoroughly disliked them in their first sections.

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#53 Mandingo101
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i think the game will get mixed reviews, and the average on gamerankings might hover around the high 7, low 8 mark, maybe around LO score(considering the low amount and mixed reviews it has now). i think you guys should be hyping fable 2 instead. this doesnt look to have killer app written all over it.
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#55 thepwninator
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i think the game will get mixed reviews, and the average on gamerankings might hover around the high 7, low 8 mark, maybe around LO score(considering the low amount and mixed reviews it has now). i think you guys should be hyping fable 2 instead. this doesnt look to have killer app written all over it.Mandingo101

I, for one, am not looking for a killer app-I am looking for a game I think I'll love.

To be honest, in case you haven't noticed, the lemmings are the biggest haters on this game; the cows, in general, couldn't care less, while the lemmings care more about being owned than getting a unique game in a largely underrepresented genre that they, consequently, don't get to play as much as PC gamers. For the most part, those of us hyping it are, at the very least, PC-360 gamers who are (with the exceptions of Dur_Rocky and yours truly ;) ) largely level-headed posters.

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#56 foxhound_fox
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When I cannot make it through the demo once I don't try to go back for more... I can tell when I don't enjoy something pretty quickly.
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#57 thepwninator
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When I cannot make it through the demo once I don't try to go back for more... I can tell when I don't enjoy something pretty quickly.foxhound_fox

I barely made it through the first time myself. However, this is definitely one of those games that grows on you the more you play it. It's like wine (I'm not saying it's fine wine, just wine)-on anyone's first try, it tastes absolutely horrid, but, as time passes, you get accustomed to it and come to enjoy it and appreciate its nuances and depth of flavor (or, in this case, RPG mechanics and combat).

I would strongly suggest you give it another shot. I'm glad I did.

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#58 foxhound_fox
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I barely made it through the first time myself. However, this is definitely one of those games that grows on you the more you play it. It's like wine (I'm not saying it's fine wine, just wine)-on anyone's first try, it tastes absolutely horrid, but, as time passes, you get accustomed to it and come to enjoy it and appreciate its nuances and depth of flavor (or, in this case, RPG mechanics and combat).

I would strongly suggest you give it another shot. I'm glad I did.

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Sorry. I disliked it so much it left a bad taste in my mouth.
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#59 BioShockOwnz
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i think the game will get mixed reviews, and the average on gamerankings might hover around the high 7, low 8 mark, maybe around LO score(considering the low amount and mixed reviews it has now). i think you guys should be hyping fable 2 instead. this doesnt look to have killer app written all over it.Mandingo101

It doesn't need to have "killer app" written all over it. Honestly, I'm a gamer, not someone who buys into the killer app nonsense. No single game is a killer app, imho.

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#60 VideoGameRosado
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Quite simple, the game....just flat out **bleep**ing sucks. The animations are horrible!, the graphics suck, controls are horrid, and the combat is WAY! to stiff. The game, based on the demo....sucks. Period. and dont you DARE!reference "Diablo" to "Too Human". *sigh*
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#61 thepwninator
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Quite simple, the game....just flat out **bleep**ing sucks. The animations are horrible!, the graphics suck, controls are horrid, and the combat is WAY! to stiff. The game, based on the demo....sucks. Period. and dont you DARE!reference "Diablo" to "Too Human". *sigh*VideoGameRosado

Animations are stellar for a game like this, graphics are amazing, especially the artistic styIe used, controls successfully emulate the point'n'click gameplay of PC A-RPG's like Nox and Titan Quest, and the combat is, once you get the hang of it, unsurpassed. The game, based on the demo....pwns. Period.

See? Two can play at the game of gross hyperbole.

In all seriousness, though, there was definitely some merit to the game, meaning it didn't "flat out **bleep**ing suck". Otherwise, people like myself would not have enjoyed it and we wouldn't be having this conversation now, would we?