Why we pay 60$ for live.

For the "services" that not much people use. Most subscribers just want to play the damn games.

Mr_BillGates

Oh. If you could just link me to the set of usage and consumer behavior stats for Xbox Live, I'd love to take a look this data you have.

[QUOTE="pimpog"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

No. I have a choice. I always have a choice. I have both systems and use them regularly. When I want to go online, I choose Xbox Live Gold even though it's free on my PS3.

Nothing's stopping me from cancelling or letting my subscription just run out. I just like the features, services and conveniences that Xbox Live Gold offers. If you want specifics, you'll have to check my posting history. I've repeated myself in at least a dozen threads like this, two of them in the past day or so.

VoodooHak

That's your experience and that's fine. I find value not only in cross game chat. I also use cross game invites on a daily basis. I use the party system all the time. These speaks to the level of integration since they exist at the OS level and run in the background no matter what I'm doing. I also like the community-focused events like game with fame and game with devs and my personal fave, Community Play Date. These things are right there on the dash in a dedicated My Community section. It's right there. No need to launch separate apps to find them. Again, it's integrated in a way that's easy and makes sense.

Speaking of community, the staff is really good at responding quickly and publicly Example: javelin glitch in MW2. The director of policy enforcement responded right away and his staff suspended exploiters until IW fixed it. Sony went on record that they weren't going to do anything, statement given my an anonymous rep. I also have a wife and daughter who really dig the GamerChix. With elections just happening and the supreme court considering video game issues, I find MS's Play Smart Play Safe campaign invaluable. Just as valuable as their work with other minority groups to shape Xbox Live policy locally, nationally and globally. What's Sony doing? They have a small digital version of their parental controls on the website... and that's pretty much it.

To a lesser extent, I like the direction Xbox Live is going in terms of breadth of services. The Zune marketplace isn't just movies anymore. It includes their entire music library. so my points and my Zune Social friends list, MSN messenger contact list, and Windows Live list are all together now on the My Friends part of the dash.

These are all things that are that are relevent to me. Unfortunately, Sony either doesnt' do these things or they don't do them nearly as well.

Like I've been saying for ages, these are my reasons and everyone's reasons will be different.

You know... we can both the right.

It is cool I just get online game for a hour or 2 then get off. I forgot to write about the party chat and invites good features bot not 60 dollars good.pimpog

They're $60 good for me.

My time is very finite. The more convenience, integration and features I can get for that limited time, the better.

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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

No. I have a choice. I always have a choice. I have both systems and use them regularly. When I want to go online, I choose Xbox Live Gold even though it's free on my PS3.

Nothing's stopping me from cancelling or letting my subscription just run out. I just like the features, services and conveniences that Xbox Live Gold offers. If you want specifics, you'll have to check my posting history. I've repeated myself in at least a dozen threads like this, two of them in the past day or so.

VoodooHak

You dont have a choice. You JUST stated that you like certain features in XBL. In order to access those features you HAVE NO CHOICE but to pay for said features. When there's no need. ALl other systems are free. That should have been the end of the discussion right there. ALl the otehr systems are free, XBL live is a rip off. Just because you are willing to pay for it doesn't make that untrue. Then they go and say that you HAVE to pay them more money because of their exclusives? LMFAO, what exclusives? They dont have Halo anymore which leaves 360 owners with Forza and Gears as exclusive titles. That does NOT justify a $10 a year price hike.

It's still a choice. If the price outweighed the features, I wouldn't pay for it. But the price is reasonable for reasons I stated just a couple posts up.

There is always a choice.

*sight* Here's another one thinking that his word is unrefutable truth that no one's allowed to disagree with.

If you don't like it, that's fine. Xbox Live isn't the right fit for you. I get that. But it IS the right fit for me. And there you have it. We've both made our decisions for our own reasons, neither of which are right or wrong.

Not a logic fail on my part, just a maturity fail on yours.

You said you always have a choice. But on the 360 you dont. It's either pay and play online, getting the most out of your games and money or you refuse to pay for live and only play single player. That doesn't seem like much of a choice to me. Sure, YOU have both XBL and PSN so you can choose which system to play. Sadly that's not the same as whether or not you have the choice to pay for XBL because you simply dont have a choice. 90% of games these days are based around their multiplayer component, without live you're SOL.

I also said that just beacuse you are willing to pay for a service doesn't make it a rip off. How many people here pay for cable, then complain about the cable bill every month? Same deal with XBL. Get over it, You were proven wrong.

It is a simple answer why I pay 60$ for xbox live, its so I can play online on a 360 because I dont want a ps3. So is it worth it to pay 60$? yes it is because I get to play on my 360. Now you may say im a fanboy which I am but think about it if you cows were in the same position we are you would have the same belief and feelings, its your ps3 thats what you like thats why you pay for it.AustyBosty

Xbox Live isn't even that good. I owned, played (a lot) and paid for numerous accounts and for Xbox Live for 3 years. Even though I no longer own an Xbox, I still have two accounts running on Gold and others that just recently expired. The only thing I miss is private/party chats, but in terms of actual gameplay and the experience? Nothing makes me miss XBL. It's the same thing, only you pay to unlock content you already bought.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]I meant services in other systems.Arach666

Other systems that he doesn't own.

because you are a blind sheep you must be milked by the shepphard. The shepphard is called Microsoft

blaznwiipspman1

So are you saying that you paid 60.00after paying 299.00 to play your 360? So if I read OP post correctly, in order to play online , you have to fork out 60.00, on a machine you forked 299.00 for. wow Great logic OPspike6566

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Other systems that he doesn't own.

Funconsole

:P

I pay for Live because most of my buddies have an Xbox 360 and it's the only way to game with them...

...Which is BS.

As a gold member the price increase doesn't bother me. It's 10 bucks...and I have a job...

I dont understand why most lemmings over rate XBL's features. People pay for XBL Live because they "have" to, so that they can play their Halo, MW2, Gears2 etc online. NOT because of the features Xbox offers.

If online multiplayer is available in silver membership, nobody would pay for gold.

If you had both you'd see things differently.tomarlyn

pretty much this. It's just not acceptable

M$ has got everyone by the wallets it seems, luckily i have used both and didnt see any point in paying to play online. I dont care for things like dashboard integration and party chat, i just want to load a game and play some online. PC is free and destroys Live so why do you lemmings accept that you have to pay to unlock your multiplayer content?

So are you saying that you paid 60.00after paying 299.00 to play your 360? So if I read OP post correctly, in order to play online , you have to fork out 60.00, on a machine you forked 299.00 for. wow Great logic OPspike6566

[QUOTE="AustyBosty"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]I dont know why paying 60$ a year for XBL offends so many SW users :lol: I have a gold cubsciption and play the best console online game on the market (Halo reach. Halo 3) with my buddies so its money well spent.Iantheone

Then don't pay for it. It's really that easy.

It still strikes me as odd that people are so hung up on Live when they have no intention of buying it. I don't like Apple products but I don't harp on about it for days on end. It only ever comes up when ever someone asks me "how do you feel about Apple" to which I reply "not really interested" and then we move on to other topics. But here? Every few days a new post is brought up where some supposedly unbiased nonfanboy (pfft, haha, right. . ) says that Live is either terrible or that people who have live are in denial and then go on to point out how PCs or PSN or whatever is free. Okay? Why are you here ranting like a lunatic instead of playing on your free crap? I would if I was so against Live. I'd say "sucks to be them" and play on. But no. They latch onto the issue like jealous housewives and refuse to let go. They are compelled to give commentary and I just don't understand why. I mean, seriously, who are they to say others are in denial? Internet nobodies who want to pee in peoples cheerios because, well, it seems like they are petty, vindictive, bitter, and jealous. Why? I haven't a clue because I was almost certain they said paying for it was bad.AncientDozer

I'm the same. I won't speak unless asked. The only exception are like OP. Where you try to justify it with stupid reasoning.

If you want to pay for and you enjoy XBL, go ahead. Just don't create threads saying "THIS IS WHY WE PAY FOR XBL!" because it never works. Everything you pay for is done on a different FREE service, the same or better.

It still strikes me as odd that people are so hung up on Live when they have no intention of buying it. I don't like Apple products but I don't harp on about it for days on end. It only ever comes up when ever someone asks me "how do you feel about Apple" to which I reply "not really interested" and then we move on to other topics. But here? Every few days a new post is brought up where some supposedly unbiased nonfanboy (pfft, haha, right. . ) says that Live is either terrible or that people who have live are in denial and then go on to point out how PCs or PSN or whatever is free. Okay? Why are you here ranting like a lunatic instead of playing on your free crap? I would if I was so against Live. I'd say "sucks to be them" and play on. But no. They latch onto the issue like jealous housewives and refuse to let go. They are compelled to give commentary and I just don't understand why. I mean, seriously, who are they to say others are in denial? Internet nobodies who want to pee in peoples cheerios because, well, it seems like they are petty, vindictive, bitter, and jealous. Why? I haven't a clue because I was almost certain they said paying for it was bad.AncientDozer

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] If you don't need to justify it, why are you in every single thread about paying for XBL? Shouldn't be that important to you, right?tomarlyn

I was just trying to answer people's questions about why I pay for it. It just seems that no cows want to hear it. Especially if you have PSN as well.

XBL is better than PSN there's no doubt about it. Whether its worth €50 more than PSN? i dont think so but there's not much choice in the matter if you want to use Xbox Live.

it's just rip off fee....anyway MS is smart, that itsells cheap consoles (fat 360) but once you start to play it, you gotta pay more, such as wifi and fee to enable multiplayers feature.

If you had both you'd see things differently.tomarlyn

If you had both you'd see things differently.tomarlyn

It is a simple answer why I pay 60$ for xbox live, its so I can play online on a 360 because I dont want a ps3. So is it worth it to pay 60$? yes it is because I get to play on my 360. Now you may say im a fanboy which I am but think about it if you cows were in the same position we are you would have the same belief and feelings, its your ps3 thats what you like thats why you pay for it.AustyBosty

HAHAHA! You are joking right. Please do not lie in an attempt to prove a point. From here forth, your credibility is now gone.ImprovedMind

[QUOTE="Flame-Eternal"] a.) Microsoft has to balance the books...and LIVE is one of the few things that is helping keep them in the green. kuraimen

http://kotaku.com/5026559/xbox-division-finally-reports-profitable-year

You should not have needed extra help to understand there was context to the point. Come on, guys. I know it's early, but you guys are acting like you need your hands held. Do better.

Whether either of you like it or not, the bottom line here is that Xbox Live is one of the key factors helping them become profitable for the first time ever. Sorry if it hurts?

It is a simple answer why I pay 60$ for xbox live, its so I can play online on a 360 because I dont want a ps3. So is it worth it to pay 60$? yes it is because I get to play on my 360. Now you may say im a fanboy which I am but think about it if you cows were in the same position we are you would have the same belief and feelings, its your ps3 thats what you like thats why you pay for it.AustyBosty

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]If you had both you'd see things differently.ImprovedMind

[QUOTE="AustyBosty"]It is a simple answer why I pay 60$ for xbox live, its so I can play online on a 360 because I dont want a ps3. So is it worth it to pay 60$? yes it is because I get to play on my 360. Now you may say im a fanboy which I am but think about it if you cows were in the same position we are you would have the same belief and feelings, its your ps3 thats what you like thats why you pay for it.XanderZane

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="AustyBosty"]It is a simple answer why I pay 60$ for xbox live, its so I can play online on a 360 because I dont want a ps3. So is it worth it to pay 60$? yes it is because I get to play on my 360. Now you may say im a fanboy which I am but think about it if you cows were in the same position we are you would have the same belief and feelings, its your ps3 thats what you like thats why you pay for it.Flame-Eternal

U mad?

[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"] You do know we're talking about the entertainment division, right? You're aware that said division has only recently turned a pofit for the first time in the existence of the Xbox brand? Maybe you didn't, so I'll let it slide. Otherwise, your credibility will have vaporized secondary to a lack of knowledge and misplaced aggressiveness.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Flame-Eternal"] a.) Microsoft has to balance the books...and LIVE is one of the few things that is helping keep them in the green. Flame-Eternal

http://kotaku.com/5026559/xbox-division-finally-reports-profitable-year

You should not have needed extra help to understand there was context to the point. Come on, guys. I know it's early, but you guys are acting like you need your hands held. Do better.

Whether either of you like it or not, the bottom line here is that Xbox Live is one of the key factors helping them become profitable for the first time ever. Sorry if it hurts?

Poor multibillion dollar company, they need our help to keep being one of the richest companies in the world. You know, I think I'll donate half of my salary to oil companies today so I can contribute, I bet their CEOs yachts are probably one month too old or something.kuraimen