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#1 pminooei
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k alot of ppl say wii isn't next gen because it has ps2 graphics but thats not the only excuse to use, there more to a game that Graphics, there are ai, physics, number of ai in game. now if you look at Wii all those are almost the same as xbox,GC,and PS2 not bashing Wii it has a great controler but the only thing new Wii Has is the controller and yes the controller brings new gameplay in the console so gameplay for Wii is next gen, which is why most ppl say it's next gen. but just a reminder the gameplay is effect by many things and not only the controller.
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#2 HeedleGlavin
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The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.
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#3 pminooei
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The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.HeedleGlavin

the wii did came after GC and wii is twice as powerful as gc, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

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#4 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.pminooei

the wii did came after GC and it's twice as powerful as Wii, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

It's the next in line of generations, so that makes it next-gen. Don't take any of that "new-gen" crap Nintendo makes up on the spot.
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#5 SmashBrosLegend
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The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.HeedleGlavin
No, it's current-generation, and so are the PS3 and Xbox 360. Nothing more needs to be said on the subject.
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#6 Riviera_Phantom
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The idea is next gen but so far the execution has been half baked at best. Mario Galaxy needs to be released to show what the wii is really about, they also need to launch a new and better online system for their games. Wii is touted "new gen" not next gen by nintendo anyway.
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#7 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.SmashBrosLegend

No, it's current-generation, and so are the PS3 and Xbox 360. Nothing more needs to be said on the subject.

We need time before we can adjust to this!
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#8 pminooei
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[QUOTE="pminooei"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.nyoroism

the wii did came after GC and it's twice as powerful as Wii, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

It's the next in line of generations, so that makes it next-gen. Don't take any of that "new-gen" crap Nintendo makes up on the spot.

thats not call next gen thats called next console

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#9 phatkav
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You do realize that the Wii came after GC so it's called next-gen, right? Anyway Wii, 360, and PS3 are current gen so no need to call them next-gen anymore.
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#10 palaric8
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The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.HeedleGlavin
original xbox can beat the wii in hardware,it has some things the wii doesn't have.
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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.nyoroism

No, it's current-generation, and so are the PS3 and Xbox 360. Nothing more needs to be said on the subject.

We need time before we can adjust to this!

Most of the lemmings here probably have 360s, but there are many sheep/cows that don't have a PS3 or a Wii, due to price or unavailability.  But even that shouldn't stop a gen from being. 

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#12 TrueReligion_
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*Yawn* Trolls need to come up with better stuff.
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#13 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.pminooei

the wii did came after GC and it's twice as powerful as Wii, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

It's the next in line of generations, so that makes it next-gen. Don't take any of that "new-gen" crap Nintendo makes up on the spot.

thats not call next gen thats called next console

Call it what you want, the premise is the same.
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If 3 couples each have a kid, and two of the kids are great athletes (better than the parents) and the 3rd kid has one arm, he's not as good, but he is still the next generation. Yes, I compared the Wii to a one-armed child, and yes it was a horrible analogy.
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#15 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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The Wii is current gen.If you say it's last gen,then you are undeniably a fanboy.
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#16 HeedleGlavin
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.pminooei

the wii did came after GC and wii is twice as powerful as gc, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

Who defines what is "next-gen"?
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#17 Blackbond
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Can Wii haters think of anything else these days. Seriously come up with something new instead of these tired old beaten down trolling arguments.
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="pminooei"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.pminooei

the wii did came after GC and it's twice as powerful as Wii, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

It's the next in line of generations, so that makes it next-gen. Don't take any of that "new-gen" crap Nintendo makes up on the spot.

thats not call next gen thats called next console

Look it up in a dictionary, you are making yourself look silly.
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Can Wii haters think of anything else these days. Seriously come up with something new instead of these tired old beaten down trolling arguments.Blackbond
Yeah. At least use one of the new talking points, like that "Wii will destroy gaming" crapola. >_>
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#20 amtentori
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you are assuming that next gen means a leap in power... who decided that???? ask the casual consumer what seems more different wii from gamecube or 360 from xbox.... the wii will win....

 

i just beat gears of war yesterday... no one could tell that it was a new system i was playing oon.... 

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#21 Anxz
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wii is last gen
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#22 HeedleGlavin
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wii is last genAnxz
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#23 ko_threat
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Yeah, there is a reason why wii isn't next gen, because its current gen! Wii came after the GC, so therefore it is the gen after last gen, meaning this gen. PS3 and Xbox360 are also this gen, and their successors are next gen, so is wii's successor.
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People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES    PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation.
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People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES    PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation. wapahala
the difference between NES-SNES ,ps1-ps2 was abysmal there no difference between gamecube-wii apart from the "new controller"of course.
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#26 The_Game21x
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You're exactly right. The Wii isn't next gen.

It's current gen, juat like the PS3 and Xbox 360.

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#27 Vadrick
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.pminooei

the wii did came after GC and wii is twice as powerful as gc, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

The Wii isnt next gen because I havent seen one game that couldnt be done visually on a Gamecube .  Some people argue SMG is better then anything gamecube could do but I disagree.  Regardless the fact many of the games coming to it are Gamecube ports with Wii controls show what a gimiky peace of crap the Wii really is.

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#28 Hungry_Homer111
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Of course it's not "next gen." It's current gen, just like teh PS3 and 360. ;)
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k alot of ppl say wii isn't next gen because it has ps2 graphics but thats not the only excuse to use, there more to a game that Graphics, there are ai, physics, number of ai in game. now if you look at Wii all those are almost the same as xbox,GC,and PS2 not bashing Wii it has a great controler but the only thing new Wii Has is the controller and yes the controller brings new gameplay in the console so gameplay for Wii is next gen, which is why most ppl say it's next gen. but just a reminder the gameplay is effect by many things and not only the controller. pminooei

SO if I go by your logic.....than the controler makes a system a next gen system? In that case I go out and buy a driveing weel and and got a next gen system. Then the next day I go out and buy some other crazy stuff...another next gen system!!

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#31 Norg
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All i know the lack of games for the Wii is kinda sad hopefully Paper mario can get a good score and turn that around
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#32 HeedleGlavin
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[QUOTE="pminooei"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.Vadrick

the wii did came after GC and wii is twice as powerful as gc, but really does it count as next gen? isn't next gen suppose to be a big leap and not a small one? 

The Wii isnt next gen because I havent seen one game that couldnt be done visually on a Gamecube .  Some people argue SMG is better then anything gamecube could do but I disagree.  Regardless the fact many of the games coming to it are Gamecube ports with Wii controls show what a gimiky peace of crap the Wii really is.

The GC couldn't run SMG. Sorry.
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k alot of ppl say wii isn't next gen because it has ps2 graphics but thats not the only excuse to use, there more to a game that Graphics, there are ai, physics, number of ai in game. now if you look at Wii all those are almost the same as xbox,GC,and PS2 not bashing Wii it has a great controler but the only thing new Wii Has is the controller and yes the controller brings new gameplay in the console so gameplay for Wii is next gen, which is why most ppl say it's next gen. but just a reminder the gameplay is effect by many things and not only the controller. pminooei
Nothing but BS. Next gen is nothing but the next batch of successors to the current consoles, or first entries for new companies. Next has nothing to do with hardware, software or generally anything to do with a console's capabilities, it's only a product thing. And the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 are not next-gen, they're current gen.
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#34 HeedleGlavin
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Anxz"]wii is last genAnxz



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[QUOTE="wapahala"]People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES    PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation. palaric8

the difference between NES-SNES ,ps1-ps2 was abysmal
there no difference between gamecube-wii apart from the "new controller"of course.

No, but you don't understand! It's a new console! It automaticaly becomes next gen because it's the next console. Say whatever you like the Wii is current gen, and so is 360 and PS3.

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[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="wapahala"]People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES    PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation. wapahala


the difference between NES-SNES ,ps1-ps2 was abysmal
there no difference between gamecube-wii apart from the "new controller"of course.

No, but you don't understand! It's a new console! It automaticaly becomes next gen because it's the next console. Say whatever you like the Wii is current gen, and so is 360 and PS3.

I have yet to see a wii game that looks better than the gamecube counterpart,sorry.
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The way I see it, "next-gen" is something that is on the horizon, "current-gen" is something that's out today, and "previous-gen" is, well, previous. Blu-Ray isn't really next-gen because there's already something better (HVD), though it's not commerically available. The Cell is pretty amazing, but Intel already created an 80-core processor. IBM developed a processor that uses light to aid in data transmission (think 160Gb/sec). That stuff is cutting edge and not currently available. I would consider that more "next-gen" than something that is already on the market. I mean... 1080p isn't even the king of high def anymore (except for TV). Someone could slap some dirt on some Fruit of the Looms, call it "the next-generation of underwear," and there would be an idiot out there who would believe it.

The Wii is current generation. Why is that so hard to grasp? It may not have as advanced hardware as the PS3 or 360, but it is the next iteration from Nintendo, and it isn't just some "overclocked Gamecube with a gimmicky controller." It surpasses the hardware of last generation, and it does it in an incredibly small package. Try reading up on the Wii's hardware before you make blanket statements about it: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

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#38 curono
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The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.HeedleGlavin
Agreed. If the hardwar is more powerful, goes to next gen stock.
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#39 Anxz
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[QUOTE="Anxz"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Anxz"]wii is last genHeedleGlavin



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[QUOTE="wapahala"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="wapahala"]People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES    PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation. palaric8


the difference between NES-SNES ,ps1-ps2 was abysmal
there no difference between gamecube-wii apart from the "new controller"of course.

No, but you don't understand! It's a new console! It automaticaly becomes next gen because it's the next console. Say whatever you like the Wii is current gen, and so is 360 and PS3.


I have yet to see a wii game that looks better than the gamecube counterpart,sorry.

It doesn't have anything to do with graphics! It's a simple fact that the Wii is the next Nintendo console.

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#42 liljon546
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360 > Xbox

PS3 > PS2

Wii > GameCube

The 360, PS3, and Wii are all CURRENT-gen. /thread.

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#43 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.curono

Agreed. If the hardwar is more powerful, goes to next gen stock.

That's not even a requirement. hell, the console can be weaker than its predecessor and still be caled next gen by the virtue of it being the successor to a previous generation of consoles.

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If the wii was released with just straight gamecube graphics but you played the game in a virtual reality suit, would haters still call the wii "last gen"
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[QUOTE="wapahala"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="wapahala"]People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation. palaric8


the difference between NES-SNES ,ps1-ps2 was abysmal
there no difference between gamecube-wii apart from the "new controller"of course.

No, but you don't understand! It's a new console! It automaticaly becomes next gen because it's the next console. Say whatever you like the Wii is current gen, and so is 360 and PS3.

I have yet to see a wii game that looks better than the gamecube counterpart,sorry.

Sorry, but you fail to realize trhat graphics mean nothing when defining generations in gaming. It's defined by the product's existance, not what they can do.
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#46 Anxz
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360 > Xbox

PS3 > PS2

Wii > GameCube

The 360, PS3, and Wii are all CURRENT-gen. /thread.

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PS2>Xbox>Wii

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#47 The_Game21x
Member since 2005 • 26440 Posts
[QUOTE="liljon546"]

360 > Xbox

PS3 > PS2

Wii > GameCube

The 360, PS3, and Wii are all CURRENT-gen. /thread.

Anxz

PS2>Xbox>Wii

In terms of power, you've got that backwards

Wii>Xbox>PS2

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#48 palaric8
Member since 2006 • 2246 Posts
[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="wapahala"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="wapahala"]People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation. ithilgore2006


the difference between NES-SNES ,ps1-ps2 was abysmal
there no difference between gamecube-wii apart from the "new controller"of course.

No, but you don't understand! It's a new console! It automaticaly becomes next gen because it's the next console. Say whatever you like the Wii is current gen, and so is 360 and PS3.

I have yet to see a wii game that looks better than the gamecube counterpart,sorry.

Sorry, but you fail to realize trhat graphics mean nothing when defining generations in gaming. It's defined by the product's existance, not what they can do.

wii hardware is outdated,If you want to buy a wii thats fine,but is not next gen .
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#49 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]The Wii came after the GC, and is more powerful than last generation's consoles. It's next-gen.The_Game21x


Agreed. If the hardwar is more powerful, goes to next gen stock.

That's not even a requirement. hell, the console can be weaker than its predecessor and still be caled next gen by the virtue of it being the successor to a previous generation of consoles.

Thank you!
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="wapahala"]

[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="wapahala"]People don't know what next gen is. "Next Generation": I have some examples: NES - SNES PS1 - PS2. Humanly examples: Father generation and he passes it on to son generation = the next generation of the family. Its a new/next step. It automaticaly becomes a next generation. Gamecube was it's own generation, and Wii is the next generation. So the Wii is next generation. palaric8


the difference between NES-SNES ,ps1-ps2 was abysmal
there no difference between gamecube-wii apart from the "new controller"of course.

No, but you don't understand! It's a new console! It automaticaly becomes next gen because it's the next console. Say whatever you like the Wii is current gen, and so is 360 and PS3.


I have yet to see a wii game that looks better than the gamecube counterpart,sorry.

Sorry, but you fail to realize trhat graphics mean nothing when defining generations in gaming. It's defined by the product's existance, not what they can do.


wii hardware is outdated,If you want to buy a wii thats fine,but is not next gen .

It does not matter! Doesn't your puny mind understand? Fanboys drive me crazy!