Why won't gamers stand up to SOny and tell them to stop ruining the industry???

[QUOTE="Containmomentum"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Stop comparing this to Cable TV or a cellphone service. It doesn't make sense.

dream431ca

Huh? Did you read the fine print?? If you cancel the service on your 360, MS will charge you a termination fee, so you sign a contract. You really have no option, unless you want to pay more money to cancel it.

Only bad thing Sony did this gen was having an arrogant attitude (arrogance is NOT confidence) and launching an over priced system, also they were partly responsible for the PSN hack fiasco (though most of the blame falls on the hackers). However aside from that they have made great progress for the industry this gen.

You know who I think IS harming the industry though? MS! XBL fees, lack of exclusives, the new crappy Xbox rental program they are coming out with now ect....none of those things are good for the industry. Keep in mind I said they were harming the industry, not ruining it.

I simply think MS is the company that needs to change the most in this business. Because of some of their policies it has encouraged things like day 1 DLC, over priced map packs, online passes ect...However they are competition and it's important that they stay around even if I have no interest in their current or next gen system.

Bad Poll man. Sony is not ruining the industry...but now, on the other hand, if they are destroying anything, it's themsevles.

Why is anyone taking this guy seriously? This is the same guy who made a thread about how underrated Hitler is in OT, so its not like anything he says has any merit.

Plus did you all noticed he never even came back?

Sony is the one ruining gaming ?:shock:

this guys is most likely sitting back laughing at us as we reply to his stupid threads ... sigh.

this guys is most likely sitting back laughing at us as we reply to his stupid threads ... sigh.

rasengan2552

couldn't care less, let him have his "win" it's probably the only thing going on in his life if he cares so much about some forums to spend time spamming them 24/7

I simply think MS is the company that needs to change the most in this business. Because of some of their policies it has encouraged things like day 1 DLC, over priced map packs, online passes ect...However they are competition and it's important that they stay around even if I have no interest in their current or next gen system.

ShadowMoses900

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

Because barely anyone stood up when they added ridiculously draconian DRM to music and even fewer people stood up when they started doing it to games.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I simply think MS is the company that needs to change the most in this business. Because of some of their policies it has encouraged things like day 1 DLC, over priced map packs, online passes ect...However they are competition and it's important that they stay around even if I have no interest in their current or next gen system.

Raymundo_Manuel

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

Ummm....Xbox Live is basically an online pass since if you don't pay for it, you can't play online.

Why is anyone taking this guy seriously? This is the same guy who made a thread about how underrated Hitler is in OT, so its not like anything he says has any merit.

Plus did you all noticed he never even came back?

SPYDER0416

Oh wait was that him? Was he the guy trying to downplay Hitler as a bad person? I just remember getting offended in that thread and never coming back.

I agree, I think it's best if we all try to ignore him from now on.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I simply think MS is the company that needs to change the most in this business. Because of some of their policies it has encouraged things like day 1 DLC, over priced map packs, online passes ect...However they are competition and it's important that they stay around even if I have no interest in their current or next gen system.

Raymundo_Manuel

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

XBL is nothing but an online pass, XBL is really just a glorified rental service. You don't actually own your games, you only own a portion and MS owns the rest. Online pass is kind of the same thing but it's just a one time deal, XBL is a forever online pass. Don't pay it you can't play half (and in some cases more than half) of your game you own.

Like I said, XBL is nothing but a rental service.

As for the TC, you really want to know the reason why we won't stand up to Sony? Because it would be like us standing up to get you to leave SW and never come back. In other words, it would be useless.

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I simply think MS is the company that needs to change the most in this business. Because of some of their policies it has encouraged things like day 1 DLC, over priced map packs, online passes ect...However they are competition and it's important that they stay around even if I have no interest in their current or next gen system.

ShadowMoses900

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

XBL is nothing but an online pass, XBL is really just a glorified rental service. You don't actually own your games, you only own a portion and MS owns the rest. Online pass is kind of the same thing but it's just a one time deal, XBL is a forever online pass. Don't pay it you can't play half (and in some cases more than half) of your game you own.

Like I said, XBL is nothing but a rental service.

So if we're considering XBL an online pass then I suppose we should also note that XBL isn't the first subscription put into place to play games online.

SegaNet, for instance, pre-dated XBL, and on top of that there were plenty of MMOs before XBL that charged monthly to play.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

Like Sony hasn't milked anyone before with PS1, PS2, & now, PS Vita...:roll:

Containmomentum

Sony doesn't charge for online play, nor do they do "subscription" deals (the new Xbox deal, which is terrible). You buy a Sony console *ONCE* unless it has a hardware issue, but that should not count because all consoles have hardware issues now and then which is a part of owning a gaming console, or even a PC. You don't buy a Microsoft console just once, you have to keep on paying for online. Microsoft doesn't need to come to your house to rob you, you let them in willingly to rob you.

I'll wait.;)

[QUOTE="santoron"]If only they would charge for online and deliver fewer exclusives... blackace

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

Raymundo_Manuel

XBL is nothing but an online pass, XBL is really just a glorified rental service. You don't actually own your games, you only own a portion and MS owns the rest. Online pass is kind of the same thing but it's just a one time deal, XBL is a forever online pass. Don't pay it you can't play half (and in some cases more than half) of your game you own.

Like I said, XBL is nothing but a rental service.

So if we're considering XBL an online pass then I suppose we should also note that XBL isn't the first subscription put into place to play games online.

SegaNet, for instance, pre-dated XBL, and on top of that there were plenty of MMOs before XBL that charged monthly to play.

We are debating this same argement in two different threads, so we should just stick to one. I'll let you choose the thread.

Becuase they haven't ruined anything.

This is actually really hypocritcal coming from a lemming.

lx_theo

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I simply think MS is the company that needs to change the most in this business. Because of some of their policies it has encouraged things like day 1 DLC, over priced map packs, online passes ect...However they are competition and it's important that they stay around even if I have no interest in their current or next gen system.

ShadowMoses900

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

XBL is nothing but an online pass, XBL is really just a glorified rental service. You don't actually own your games, you only own a portion and MS owns the rest. Online pass is kind of the same thing but it's just a one time deal, XBL is a forever online pass. Don't pay it you can't play half (and in some cases more than half) of your game you own.

Like I said, XBL is nothing but a rental service.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

DarkOfKnight

XBL is nothing but an online pass, XBL is really just a glorified rental service. You don't actually own your games, you only own a portion and MS owns the rest. Online pass is kind of the same thing but it's just a one time deal, XBL is a forever online pass. Don't pay it you can't play half (and in some cases more than half) of your game you own.

Like I said, XBL is nothing but a rental service.

Lol hey I pay my own internet, no reason to be so sensitive Mr Lem. I know it must be hard getting ripped off with XBL but that's no reason to hate on me, you should be hating on MS instead, mabey then they would make it free.

But I'm not going to mention your mother because I don't like bringing peoples family into debates online, I try to not make it personal. I would appreciate it if you did the same courtesy as well.

They have single handily went from awesome to crap in one gen. ps2 was great, but those are the old days. Ps3 has been a massive failure. SOny is absolutely ruining the gaming industry and gamers and just letting them do it with no reprocussions. From the craptastic Move, overpriced junk Vita, overpriced Ps3, psn credit theft, outdated controller, terrible online.....i mean i could go on and on, what the hell gamers, STNAD UP to this POS company for once. They are ruining the industry I love and I hope the bankrupcy rumors are true, because then gaming might return to the greatness it was last gen

reach3

Lol hey I pay my own internet, no reason to be so sensitive Mr Lem.ShadowMoses900

I know it must be hard getting ripped off with XBL but that's no reason to hate on meShadowMoses900

you should be hating on MS instead, mabey then they would make it free.ShadowMoses900

But I'm not going to mention your mother because I don't like bringing peoples family into debates online, I try to not make it personal. I would appreciate it if you did the same courtesy as well.ShadowMoses900

My answer to Uncharted 2... Mario Galaxy 2

My answer to Little Big Planet... Mario Galaxy

My answer to Metal Gear Solid 4... Zelda Twilight Princess

My answer to God of War 3... Super Smash Bros Brawl

My answer to Uncharted 3... Zelda Skyward Sword

My answer to Little Big Planet 2... XenoBlade Chronicles

My answer to Killzone 2... Metroid Prime 3

Nintendo has more/ better exclusives, get over it

Samus3D

...most of those games aren't even similar. Comparing GOW3 to SSBB? WTF!?

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="santoron"]If only they would charge for online and deliver fewer exclusives... Chutebox

Last I checked, Sony was fine and made quality hardware and software. Please stop this crusade against Sony and have fun with PC games.

arto1223

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Last I checked, Sony was fine and made quality hardware and software. Please stop this crusade against Sony and have fun with PC games.

blackace

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Sony has been supporting DLC and map packs this whole gen right alongside MS

And Sony is the one putting online passes on all their first party games....

Raymundo_Manuel

XBL is nothing but an online pass, XBL is really just a glorified rental service. You don't actually own your games, you only own a portion and MS owns the rest. Online pass is kind of the same thing but it's just a one time deal, XBL is a forever online pass. Don't pay it you can't play half (and in some cases more than half) of your game you own.

Like I said, XBL is nothing but a rental service.

So if we're considering XBL an online pass then I suppose we should also note that XBL isn't the first subscription put into place to play games online.

SegaNet, for instance, pre-dated XBL, and on top of that there were plenty of MMOs before XBL that charged monthly to play.

OT, Nothin much to say cept.. oh my !! :P

If only they would charge for online and deliver fewer exclusives... santoron

... and release a peripheral that makes the gamer the controller.

$6.7 billion loss is not only in the PS brand. When are people going to understand that?

Only bad thing Sony did this gen was having an arrogant attitude (arrogance is NOT confidence) and launching an over priced systemShadowMoses900

They have single handily went from awesome to crap in one gen. ps2 was great, but those are the old days. Ps3 has been a massive failure. SOny is absolutely ruining the gaming industry and gamers and just letting them do it with no reprocussions. From the craptastic Move, overpriced junk Vita, overpriced Ps3, psn credit theft, outdated controller, terrible online.....i mean i could go on and on, what the hell gamers, STNAD UP to this POS company for once. They are ruining the industry I love and I hope the bankrupcy rumors are true, because then gaming might return to the greatness it was last gen

reach3

How do you get away with constantly spamming these crap threads?

[QUOTE="reach3"]

They have single handily went from awesome to crap in one gen. ps2 was great, but those are the old days. Ps3 has been a massive failure. SOny is absolutely ruining the gaming industry and gamers and just letting them do it with no reprocussions. From the craptastic Move, overpriced junk Vita, overpriced Ps3, psn credit theft, outdated controller, terrible online.....i mean i could go on and on, what the hell gamers, STNAD UP to this POS company for once. They are ruining the industry I love and I hope the bankrupcy rumors are true, because then gaming might return to the greatness it was last gen

tenaka2

How do you get away with constantly spamming these crap threads?

The new ToU bro....

Too stupid; didn't read.

Frostbite24

Sony is the best one right now in terms of the big three. The one who is ruining gaming is MS :P.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

Last I checked, Sony was fine and made quality hardware and software. Please stop this crusade against Sony and have fun with PC games.

-ArchAngeL-777-

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

Too stupid; didn't read.

nini200

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="blackace"] Losing 6.7 billion in 2011 is fine? lol!! I guess you haven't been keeping up on current events. I don't know about them hurting the industry. I think they are hurting their own company more then anything else. When you are losing billions every quarter it's time to change your strategy. Having FREE online service isn't making them any money. Their digital magazine got terminated a month ago. Is anyone still using the major failed HOME? Sony doesn't even talk about that anymore. I wonder why? lmao. Not talking about the PSP Go anymore either. Another failed attempt to take Nintendo's market shares. At least gamers and warned them not to release that thing. PSVita is better, but still too expensive. Poor launch. So.. no, Sony isn't fine like you say. blackace

Sony should re-release the PS2. It'll sell again, alot.

$6.7 billion loss is not only in the PS brand. When are people going to understand that?

DeadMan1290

How is releasing products that you dont approve of ruining the industry?

[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

$6.7 billion loss is not only in the PS brand. When are people going to understand that?

blackace

Sony is the best one right now in terms of the big three. The one who is ruining gaming is MS :P.

NaveedLife

btw does anybody know what the poll results are ?

I wanna know but I refuse to contribute a vote to reach3 thread.:P

Replace Sony with Nintendo and your thread will actually make sense. We direct too much hate on MS, Nintendo started this whole casual crap movement.