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#1 EllieStranger
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Somebody explain to me why in the heck would you waste $10 to $15 dollars on map packs. Unless of course it's a terrible game that locks you out of playlists until you buy the DLC(Halo 3).

Playerbases can fluctuate rapidly as well. How many people are playing Brink. Or Kane & Lynch 2. Or Duke Nukem Forever. Or other multiplayer games with map packs that aren't popular at all?

Finding games when a game becomes less popular is even more troublesome when you own a specific map pack and are only allowed to play with people with that map pack. What if the map pack wasn't popular and you're stuck playing with 80 players that are in tune with your configuration? Sure you could delete it. Then you'd be admitting you wasted money on a map pack and are admitting I'm right.

Not to mention. What if EA, Microsoft or SONY shut down the servers for XBL or PSN or EA's game to game culling? Money down the drain again. Especially if the game doesn't have LAN or split screen(Battlefield 3).

I don't get why you'd waste that money when you could spend that same money towards a GREAT game like say Journey or Shadow Complex or Dishwasher the Dead Samurai. You know. Games without DLC.

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#2 ShadowMoses900
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I got Killzone3 map packs, I got like 8 or 10 maps all for $10. Pretty good deal to me, and they are all well designed with and big like most Killzone levels.

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#3 Zonned87
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I don't use maps in videogames, a real man finds his destination on his own.

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#4 Pikachu69er
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i have no idea why

i spent $70 on cod elite and i barly play the game once a month, and i have spent $30 on the uncharted 3 map packs so far :(

i would rather buy an arcade game

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#5 -Unreal-
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We didn't have to years ago before these current consoles. People on PC would make their own maps. Devs these days don't release map tools because they want to milk everyone for every penny. It's right beside the other kick in the balls: DLC.

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#6 R3FURBISHED
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Unless of course it's a terrible game that locks you out of playlists until you buy the DLC(Halo 3).

EllieStranger

disregarding the playlists that created especially for the new maps and the old maps

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Why would people buy new maps? Probably because they want to play on new maps. That is my guess at least.

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#7 EllieStranger
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disregarding the playlists that created especially for the new maps and the old maps

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Well yeah of course. If you buy DLC you deserve a lobby to play the maps. However. I shouldn't be forced out of playing fun game modes that were available before the DLC because the designers of the game are stupid and that's the only way they can segregate us.

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#8 dotWithShoes
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What happens if the developer shuts the servers down for a game that doesn't have map packs? Then you're out $60.. well, sure you got $60 of enjoyment out of it before that.. but it doesn't matter since you can no longer enjoy the game. What does it matter how much you've played it.
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#9 MLBknights58
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Because someone wants to play on new maps and feels the enjoyment that would be brought by doing so justifies the price of entry? I don't know, something like that...
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#10 Microsoft1234
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if you enjoy the game and don't want to play the same maps............. I only bought DLC for Cod4, Halo 3, and gears of war this gen.
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#11 Valentino07
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We didn't have to years ago before these current consoles. People on PC would make their own maps. Devs these days don't release map tools because they want to milk everyone for every penny. It's right beside the other kick in the balls: DLC.

-Unreal-

Those were the good days....

*sighs*

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#12 DragonfireXZ95
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i have no idea why

i spent $70 on cod elite and i barly play the game once a month, and i have spent $30 on the uncharted 3 map packs so far :(

i would rather buy an arcade game

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#13 SPYDER0416
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Yeah TC, why would ANYONE want access to new content to games they like?

Like, so dumb amirite?

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#14 wis3boi
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if it's a lot of content for a decent price I might get it, but then again, I don't really own many games that sell 'maps'

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#15 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I don't know maybe people want to get more content for a game they like.

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#16 daveg1
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all dlc should be avoided! gives the companies more room for milking us. if everyone stopped being milked we'd see more of this stuff on the already expensive games we buy.
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#17 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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if it's a lot of content for a decent price I might get it, but then again, I don't really own many games that sell 'maps'

wis3boi

TF2 is the best example of what you said. I mean, even at full price the game was amazing value, but NOW WHEN IT"S FREE

It's like Christmas everyday

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

if it's a lot of content for a decent price I might get it, but then again, I don't really own many games that sell 'maps'

OB-47

TF2 is the best example of what you said. I mean, even at full price the game was amazing value, but NOW WHEN IT"S FREE

It's like Christmas everyday

I laugh when I look back at how many maps the game shipped with, and then I load it up and see all the ones I got for free, plus custom ones. Poor console version is still vanilla with no tweaks
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#19 Master_ShakeXXX
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I'd buy them for a reasonable price, ie, $5. Paying $10-15 for a few maps is ridiculous.

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#20 Pug-Nasty
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The main problem with map packs is they split the playerbase, so whether or not you buy them, you are still forced to play with a smaller pool of players. This makes all online games irrelevant as soon as they release a map pack in my opinion.

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#21 ShadowsDemon
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People pay $100 for a new map every year called Call of Duty. I don't see your problem.
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#22 PatchMaster
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Umm, because they're not free.

We're not entitled to map packs and devs aren't obligated to even make them in the first place. So unless the maps were finished prior release and held back or something I don't see the problem.

And while I love indie/arcade games, I tend to only get 5-10 hours out of them for the same cost as a map pack. Seeing as I've already gotten hundreds of hours out of Gears 3 map packs I'm pretty content.

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#23 StrongDeadlift
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In games like CoD, those map packs are basically an entire game's worth of content. I never understood the crying about map packs. If you dont like them, dont buy them. Nobody will miss you. ;)

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#24 Pikachu69er
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People pay $100 for a new map every year called Call of Duty. I don't see your problem.ShadowsDemon

same could be said for halo

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#25 StrongDeadlift
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People pay $100 for a new map every year called Call of Duty. I don't see your problem.ShadowsDemon
y

This reasoning doesnt make sense.

Black Ops for instance (a game with hundreds/thousands of hours of replay value) shipped with 15 maps on the disk, and if you buy all of the map packs you end up getting 20 MORE maps than the game shipped with. That is literally an entire game worth of content.

People cry about this all day, when at the end of the day, most FULL games dont even ship with that much content as CoD's map packs, nor do they have the replay value.

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To get more maps.

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#27 Arbiterisl33t69
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I don't use maps in videogames, a real man finds his destination on his own.

Zonned87
Do you even know what TC is talking about? He's talking about real multiplayer maps/levels, not maps as in radars. Are you this ancient of a gamer that you seriously don't know what people mean by maps? Oh wait, sheep.. Never mind.
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#28 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Zonned87"]

I don't use maps in videogames, a real man finds his destination on his own.

Arbiterisl33t69
Do you even know what TC is talking about? He's talking about real multiplayer maps/levels, not maps as in radars. Are you this ancient of a gamer that you seriously don't know what people mean by maps? Oh wait, sheep.. Never mind.

Sarcasm meter: yours is broken
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#29 Arbiterisl33t69
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[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"][QUOTE="Zonned87"]

I don't use maps in videogames, a real man finds his destination on his own.

wis3boi
Do you even know what TC is talking about? He's talking about real multiplayer maps/levels, not maps as in radars. Are you this ancient of a gamer that you seriously don't know what people mean by maps? Oh wait, sheep.. Never mind.

Sarcasm meter: yours is broken

Huh. Probably is. Still, some people surprise me.
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#30 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]People pay $100 for a new map every year called Call of Duty. I don't see your problem.StrongDeadlift

y

This reasoning doesnt make sense.

Black Ops for instance (a game with hundreds/thousands of hours of replay value) shipped with 15 maps on the disk, and if you buy all of the map packs you end up getting 20 MORE maps than the game shipped with. That is literally an entire game worth of content.

People cry about this all day, when at the end of the day, most FULL games dont even ship with that much content as CoD's map packs, nor do they have the replay value.

Because CoD doesn't nothing to change the forumla. I didn't meanm a literal new map, but rather the same game in a new locale.
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#31 RoslindaleOne
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Map packs is a beast.
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#32 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

if it's a lot of content for a decent price I might get it, but then again, I don't really own many games that sell 'maps'

wis3boi

TF2 is the best example of what you said. I mean, even at full price the game was amazing value, but NOW WHEN IT"S FREE

It's like Christmas everyday

I laugh when I look back at how many maps the game shipped with, and then I load it up and see all the ones I got for free, plus custom ones. Poor console version is still vanilla with no tweaks

The lack of hats is painful

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#33 ninjapirate2000
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No one ever played the map packs on uc2 and kill zone 2 I've learned my lesson, what a waste.
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#34 Meinhard1
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If you really like a game and it's in your budget than... why not?

For alot of people 15 dollars isn't that much.

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#35 Pug-Nasty
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If you really like a game and it's in your budget than... why not?

For alot of people 15 dollars isn't that much.

Meinhard1

It's not the money, it's the breaking of the online game at it's fundamental core. Every online game that gets DLC that splits the community is no longer a game worth playing due to the fact that an already ass online game will be more ass because there are less people to play with.

I'd buy SP content ina heart beat, and I'd pay more than $15 for it. But, developers can make a map for practically nothing, wheras SP content would actually be a risk.

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Because someone wants to play on new maps and feels the enjoyment that would be brought by doing so justifies the price of entry? I don't know, something like that...MLBknights58
Back in the golden days, map packs were a way to say thank you to the fans and customers.
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#37 metal_zombie
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DLC for fallout were good they added to game and were worth it too me....map packs for COD not so much
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]People pay $100 for a new map every year called Call of Duty. I don't see your problem.StrongDeadlift

y

This reasoning doesnt make sense.

Black Ops for instance (a game with hundreds/thousands of hours of replay value) shipped with 15 maps on the disk, and if you buy all of the map packs you end up getting 20 MORE maps than the game shipped with. That is literally an entire game worth of content.

People cry about this all day, when at the end of the day, most FULL games dont even ship with that much content as CoD's map packs, nor do they have the replay value.

MW2 came with 12 maps. Call of Duty 4 came with 16 maps. Paying the same prices for the games every year and getting less. I will not support Activision's shady business practices.
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I dont..
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#40 cainetao11
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Hell I can't figure out why people pay for water! It comes out of any faucet in my room and is easily drinkable, yet people spend money on it. Its all good. If you find value in what you spend money on who am I to say there isn't for anybody but me?
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If you play the game a lot, you can easily get you're money's worth out of a $15 map pack. It's not like you can get more content any other ways in most cases.

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#42 Arach666
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I would pay for some map packs if they were all something like Scourge of Armagon or Dissolution of Eternity,but sadly most of them these days are simply garbage not worth paying money for.
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#43 cain006
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

if it's a lot of content for a decent price I might get it, but then again, I don't really own many games that sell 'maps'

wis3boi

TF2 is the best example of what you said. I mean, even at full price the game was amazing value, but NOW WHEN IT"S FREE

It's like Christmas everyday

I laugh when I look back at how many maps the game shipped with, and then I load it up and see all the ones I got for free, plus custom ones. Poor console version is still vanilla with no tweaks

It's too bad that every new map is crap compared to badlands, or hell even granary..

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[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]Because someone wants to play on new maps and feels the enjoyment that would be brought by doing so justifies the price of entry? I don't know, something like that...lucky_star
Back in the golden days, map packs were a way to say thank you to the fans and customers.

*scratches head* considering the fact just last generation we hardly had any mappacks on the consoles and the fact on pc developers would often sell add on content in the store either via goty editions *you could buy the original game cheaper then the goty* or map pack releases which usually had far more then 20 maps but the concept is still the same. charging for extra content is not new.
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#45 ohgeez
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No one ever played the map packs on uc2 and kill zone 2 I've learned my lesson, what a waste.ninjapirate2000
Really? After i downloaded the uc2 maps, i pretty much exclusively found games on those maps to the point where i had to change the matchmaking back to original only. Did you check off dlc matchmaking in the options?
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#46 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

TF2 is the best example of what you said. I mean, even at full price the game was amazing value, but NOW WHEN IT"S FREE

It's like Christmas everyday

OB-47

I laugh when I look back at how many maps the game shipped with, and then I load it up and see all the ones I got for free, plus custom ones. Poor console version is still vanilla with no tweaks

The lack of hats is painful

my sniper has an argyle sweater and an animated smoke pipe. Your argument is valid :)
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#47 Chrome-
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I've never paid for any maps and don't plan too either.
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To extend the life of play of their favorite game.
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#49 SOedipus
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Perhaps they play a certain game(s) a lot so it would be worth it to them as it would add something to a game they enjoy. I for one play a lot of games and don't think it's worth it.

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#50 Demonjoe93
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I bought KZ3's but only because it was a pretty good deal.