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Poll Why Xbox One sells less than Playstation 4? (114 votes)

Bad media press(DRM, ALWAYS ONLINE) 17%
Higher price, weaker console 78%
Kinect 5%

Well is it because of DRM, Always online E3 and then damage media, or just because of high price?

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#51 Merex760
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I'd say it's a combination of all three. Having weaker specs on the actual console so they could shove Kinect in the box also wasn't a good move either.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@shurns said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I think the X1 is doing ok but always room for improvement.

But why does it have less sales than the PS4?

32 countries vs. 8 countries

even in the US and UK, the ps4 sold more than the x1

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@j_assassin said:

I think its because some gamers learned their lesson from the 360, they know m$ will try to earn money with the least effort making exclusives,

this is the real answer. also being $100 cheaper doesn't hurt. Most people don't konw about the differences in power between the consoles.

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#54  Edited By kinectthedots
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@x1ps4life said:

@Evo_nine said:

Because of the e3 disaster.

Sony took advantage of the situation even though they are the ones that first wanted to implement DRM.

The public thinks that sony are their friend and, like the suckers they are, the public has eaten it up.

More power means jack shit, just like the OG xbox had more power than the ps2. It will be all about the games.

Halo, titanfall, quantum break etc etc, xbox is on the right track.

This, I love how the idiots here believe Sony is there "friend"

You guys are the real idiots,

Sony's history of how they handle business with games and gamers is enough to choose them over MS. You numbskulls using the word "friend" to try to downplay that fact doesn't change the actual actions that show Sony has done a better job of supporting their consoles and providing higher quality gaming content than MS has ever done.

This is something people actually care about, you using the word, "friend" doesn't make MS's shitty rip-off policies and lack support for their products go away or any better.

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Mainly, it's the higher price tag combined with the disastrous early PR that screwed the One over.

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Because nobody wants it. Hasn't it been obvious since E3 that everybody is getting PS4?

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@kuu2 said:

Its almost refreshing to see Sony Fan so confident again. This happened during the PS3 era as well except the 36o kicked Sony's teeth in taking more than half their market share and almost sending them into bankruptcy.

For Sony Fan this might be the only time they can talk about being on top we all know last gen they never could.

The PS4 isn't $600 a year latter,is $100 less 1 week before the xbox one..

And is ahead already in the war and japan hasn't even get the unit yet.,is incredible how a company that is in such financial problems is kicking MS behind with all their millions yet again..hahaha

@Evo_nine said:

@Vatusus said:

@Evo_nine said:
they are the ones that first wanted to implement DRM.

Source? or thats just more fanboy bullsh*t?

I'm going for the later

Its common knowledge they were using drm for years. See this thread for example.

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/177209-list-of-ps3-games-with-drm-crap/

Its also common knowledge that sony always planned to have drm on the ps4 until they saw the public outrage with Microsoft, so they quickly dogged it and pretended like they never wanted to implement it.

Microsoft changed their mind too, but the damage was done.

http://ps4daily.com/2013/06/sony-changed-playstation-4-drm-policy-after-xbox-one-outrage/

But don't worry, it wont be long before Sony tries to milk the public for all its worth again. It just makes me laugh at the fanboys who think this big corporation is their friend, they really are a bunch of delusional morons.

Totally unreliable site with no proof what so ever that sony intended to have such a thing,they have no proof and when the whole fiasco exploded for MS it was on close to E3 it would have been impossible for sony to back track all that in just weeks,sony unveiled the PS4 games on February and not a hint of DRM was visible period,they basically muck MS with a video of how to share PS4 games..haha

Face it your arguments about DRM are based on a damn patent sony didn't use,they also file one for dual GPU does the PS4 has dual GPU.?

@Evo_nine said:

Multiplat aye....a multiplat sony wont see for years :`(

Youre talking like sony is releasing something different. If so please enlighten us.

But anyways congrats sony has more sales. I hope you enjoy playing sales while I play fun games. Have you payed dead rising....omg so good.

Its hard to choose between forza, dead rising, ryse, haven't got enough hours in the day to play them all at the momment. And then titanfall comes in march!!!!!!

How is knack and borezone going for you?

I hope your not talking about Titanfall because the sequel basically confirmed for PS4, and we know EA this game will probably start to show like COD son a yearly edition.

Thats funny because for 8 years lemming had play sales,and now sales are some how bad,the PS4 also has game higher rated than the xbox one to,a damn India game has 85% on gameranking higher than any xbox one exclusive.

Forza 79%

DR3 78%

Ryse 63%

Sure is hard when you have nothing but garbage games,the fact that you even name Ryse which is a highly mediocre game says it all,the xbox one line up was beat up by an Indie game its sad,the PS4 doesn't have great games either but i don't pretend they are the best ever like you just did.

Titanfall is not even exclusive i don't need to sped $620 on a damn xbox one with live to play Titanfall,now Infamous and Drive Club are do for early next year,and those 2 you can't get them on any other platform.

knack and borezone are ok they are as good as the garbage games you just mention which non even break the 80% line even Forza..

@always_explicit said:

I dont know where this "focus on media" argument becomes valid. Just because it gives you a huge array of apps and the ability to switch between apps, television and gaming seamlessly...that some how makes it focused on media???

Since when has a wide variety of entertainment and multiple ways to interact with it been a bad thing. The X1 is whatever you want it to be, if you want more than just a games console...it can be more than just a games console. Thats a good thing for those of us who enjoy gaming, watching movies and browsing the internet because now....we can do all of those things at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

Apparently you miss this video with more than 7 million views,how fast you people forget the good times.

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@tormentos said:

@always_explicit said:

I dont know where this "focus on media" argument becomes valid. Just because it gives you a huge array of apps and the ability to switch between apps, television and gaming seamlessly...that some how makes it focused on media???

Since when has a wide variety of entertainment and multiple ways to interact with it been a bad thing. The X1 is whatever you want it to be, if you want more than just a games console...it can be more than just a games console. Thats a good thing for those of us who enjoy gaming, watching movies and browsing the internet because now....we can do all of those things at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

Apparently you miss this video with more than 7 million views,how fast you people forget the good times.

I own the console...sending me youtube videos concerning it is a waste of your time and my own. I can confirm the X1 is no more media focused than any other console. What it does enable you to do is switch seamlessly between different media types giving you an unparalleled level of control over the way you game/interact with your television. Trying to belittle a console because it offers additional features is just a stupid move.

I thought switching between Gaming, television and netflix would be a cool feature but not something I used because "picking up the remote isnt that difficult". Once you start using the voice commands and seeing how quickly the X1 switches between functions you start to realise how silly that sounds. Its fantastic.

Making substitutions and changing tactics in Fifa without pausing the game creates a nice level of immersion. Dropping weapons and attracting zombies in dead rising with voice commands is a sweet touch. I knwo your a Sony fanboy so responding to you directly is futile but having spend several weeks with the console I can honestly say only one of us is missing out on a really interesting and exciting way to play games and interact with media....it isnt me. I wasnt going to buy a Ps4 pre release but now I actually own an X1 I cant think of a single reason to buy a PS4. Its just a console, a very boring console with limited room to develop and evolve. Its a quality machine dont get me wrong, but was I excited to switch one on and play it...No.

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#59 tormentos
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@shurns said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

I think the X1 is doing ok but always room for improvement.

But why does it have less sales than the PS4?

32 countries vs. 8 countries

Totally irrelevant when both have just about the same number of units to sell,the PS4 could have release world wide in all countries and the xbox one just in NA if sony has 1.3 million and MS has 1 million that is all they will sell.

The PS4 is selling faster and doesn't last much on store the xbox one is quite easier to find,even i saw them at Walmart yesterday when Christmas was 4 days ago,no PS4 are available on the walmart close to my house,a few days ago they god a shipment and all are gone,yet they have xbox one..

But but but 32 countries vs 8..

The PS4 launched in NA with 1 million units and in 24 hours they were all sold out,it took MS 10 days to sell 1 million in NA..

@Jacobistheman said:

Again, where are the sales numbers to back this up?

It seems that the PS4 is outselling the xbox one because the one is selling at a higher price in fewer countries and has had one fewer week of sales, but again where is your sales data?

People on here are deceived by availability of both consoles (with the xbox one having slightly more availability). According to most speculation, Microsoft is kicking the crap out of Sony supply chain wise and is able to pump out a lot more Xbox Ones (I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft has built half a million more consoles at this point). The only retailer that has released information is Ebay who's numbers are skewed because people only buy a new console on ebay when they can't get one elsewhere.

So you downplay other people opinion and bring in your own rumors about the xbox one having more shipments without any proof.?

Dude more countries is irrelevant,the xbox one sold 1 million in 1 day,next day units still on shelves,even day 1 edition backed by news sites with photos.

Sony sold 1 million in 1 day to,but unlike MS sony sold 1 million in NA alone while MS sold 1 million in 13 countries,so how is MS been affected by having smaller number of countries when the PS4 launched first in US and Canada,while MS launched in US Canada and 11 other countries and still they sold the same.

No matter how many countries they sell what matter is how many units they have to sell,it is clear they have just about the same units to sell,Sony just have more countries to fee with almost the same amount of units.

Breaking 1 million units in 13 countries is not the same as 1.1 or 1.2 between 32 countries,sony has more countries so each country get less units,which lead people to believe that MS has more units to sell,when in reality is not like that,also the demand for the PS4 is higher than the xbox one,this is a fact not an opinion,even Ebay sales back this up,the PS4 is more wanted.

Exactly and since there are xbox one to get because the demand is lower less people get their units on Ebay,on the PS4 side things are different,MS isn't kicking sony's ass in the supply chain,sony has more countries to give units than MS,so more countries to feed with the same amount of units mean less units for each countries.

1 million divided by 13 countries = 76923 per country.

1 million divided by 32 countries = 31250 per country.

Same million units but if you go into US the xbox one get almost 77,000 units,while the PS4 only gets 31,000+ that is more than 2 xbox one per PS4,this is where all the sh** argument about the xbox one having more supply comes from.

1,300,000 divided by 32 countries = 40,625

Sony could actually be producing more units than MS and if you go by the numbers of units on shelves,it will appear than MS has more units to sell,when in fact is not real or truth feed 32 countries is not even close to be the same as feeding 13 32 countries is almost 3 times as many countries,wake up dude sony is producing PS4 fast they just have more countries to feed.

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@always_explicit said:

I own the console...sending me youtube videos concerning it is a waste of your time and my own. I can confirm the X1 is no more media focused than any other console. What it does enable you to do is switch seamlessly between different media types giving you an unparalleled level of control over the way you game/interact with your television. Trying to belittle a console because it offers additional features is just a stupid move.

I thought switching between Gaming, television and netflix would be a cool feature but not something I used because "picking up the remote isnt that difficult". Once you start using the voice commands and seeing how quickly the X1 switches between functions you start to realise how silly that sounds. Its fantastic.

Making substitutions and changing tactics in Fifa without pausing the game creates a nice level of immersion. Dropping weapons and attracting zombies in dead rising with voice commands is a sweet touch. I knwo your a Sony fanboy so responding to you directly is futile but having spend several weeks with the console I can honestly say only one of us is missing out on a really interesting and exciting way to play games and interact with media....it isnt me. I wasnt going to buy a Ps4 pre release but now I actually own an X1 I cant think of a single reason to buy a PS4. Its just a console, a very boring console with limited room to develop and evolve. Its a quality machine dont get me wrong, but was I excited to switch one on and play it...No.

For 500 points name the only consoles that.

Has HDMI in.

Serves as a redundant remote control for cable box.

And its reserve 10% of the GPU power for using a camera that server you as remote and a Snap feature that let you watch TV while you game.?

Once you start using your voice and command only work 68% of the time you start to look like an idot talking into the air.

If i want to watch netflix i quite gaming i can't do both at once and actually focus on both things.

To do that on Fifa you don't need the crappy kinect sh** all you need is a damn Mic,Socom for PS2 had voice command yeah welcome to 2002,and i am sure than games on PC had them to even before Socom,voice command is old as hell and the fact that the best Kinect can do is voice command is a damn joke you can do that with a mic,hell you can do voice control on PS4 without the camera..lol

You can't think of a single reason to get a PS4 because you are a die hard lemming,the fact that you pay more for less say it all but but voice commands welcome to 2002..

The experience of playing SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs with the headset on--which allows you to hear your teammates through the earpiece and issue orders by speaking commands--is a highly immersive one. When using the headset online, you can use it to communicate with your human teammates. When using it in the single-player mode, you can give your teammates a variety of orders by specifying who you're speaking to, what you want done, and where you want them to do it. The "who" can be either the whole team or just half of it, the "what" can be actions like deploying grenades or moving to certain locations, and the "where" can be specific waypoints or even where your crosshairs are pointing. The speech recognition works extremely well--all you have to do is use the game's specific vocabulary. For instance, you can say, "Team, run to, crosshairs," in order to have your team run to the location where your crosshairs are pointed. Occasionally the game won't recognize what you're trying to say, but it's usually because you just didn't say it very clearly.

http://www.gamespot.com/socom-u-s-navy-seals/

Welcome to 2002 mate that crap you did with Kinect i was doing it with a head set on the PS2 on socom 11 years ago,the fact that the best Kinect does is voice commands show how crappy and gimmick it is.

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@tormentos said:

@always_explicit said:

I own the console...sending me youtube videos concerning it is a waste of your time and my own. I can confirm the X1 is no more media focused than any other console. What it does enable you to do is switch seamlessly between different media types giving you an unparalleled level of control over the way you game/interact with your television. Trying to belittle a console because it offers additional features is just a stupid move.

I thought switching between Gaming, television and netflix would be a cool feature but not something I used because "picking up the remote isnt that difficult". Once you start using the voice commands and seeing how quickly the X1 switches between functions you start to realise how silly that sounds. Its fantastic.

Making substitutions and changing tactics in Fifa without pausing the game creates a nice level of immersion. Dropping weapons and attracting zombies in dead rising with voice commands is a sweet touch. I knwo your a Sony fanboy so responding to you directly is futile but having spend several weeks with the console I can honestly say only one of us is missing out on a really interesting and exciting way to play games and interact with media....it isnt me. I wasnt going to buy a Ps4 pre release but now I actually own an X1 I cant think of a single reason to buy a PS4. Its just a console, a very boring console with limited room to develop and evolve. Its a quality machine dont get me wrong, but was I excited to switch one on and play it...No.

For 500 points name the only consoles that.

Has HDMI in.

Serves as a redundant remote control for cable box.

And its reserve 10% of the GPU power for using a camera that server you as remote and a Snap feature that let you watch TV while you game.?

Once you start using your voice and command only work 68% of the time you start to look like an idot talking into the air.

If i want to watch netflix i quite gaming i can't do both at once and actually focus on both things.

To do that on Fifa you don't need the crappy kinect sh** all you need is a damn Mic,Socom for PS2 had voice command yeah welcome to 2002,and i am sure than games on PC had them to even before Socom,voice command is old as hell and the fact that the best Kinect can do is voice command is a damn joke you can do that with a mic,hell you can do voice control on PS4 without the camera..lol

You can't think of a single reason to get a PS4 because you are a die hard lemming,the fact that you pay more for less say it all but but voice commands welcome to 2002..

The experience of playing SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs with the headset on--which allows you to hear your teammates through the earpiece and issue orders by speaking commands--is a highly immersive one. When using the headset online, you can use it to communicate with your human teammates. When using it in the single-player mode, you can give your teammates a variety of orders by specifying who you're speaking to, what you want done, and where you want them to do it. The "who" can be either the whole team or just half of it, the "what" can be actions like deploying grenades or moving to certain locations, and the "where" can be specific waypoints or even where your crosshairs are pointing. The speech recognition works extremely well--all you have to do is use the game's specific vocabulary. For instance, you can say, "Team, run to, crosshairs," in order to have your team run to the location where your crosshairs are pointed. Occasionally the game won't recognize what you're trying to say, but it's usually because you just didn't say it very clearly.

http://www.gamespot.com/socom-u-s-navy-seals/

Welcome to 2002 mate that crap you did with Kinect i was doing it with a head set on the PS2 on socom 11 years ago,the fact that the best Kinect does is voice commands show how crappy and gimmick it is.

I shouldnt have to "think of a reason" to get a PS4. I should just "want one". I dont. Again I played Socom too. You didnt have to dig out a review to show me that it had voice commands. You stated the X1 was a media device. I stated that its a multi functional device with multiple ways to interact with media. It works very very well.

Again stating that kinect only works 68% of the time is totally ridiculous. I have one sitting in front of me now and it recognises me 95% of the time and im not exaggerating. It may have some trouble understanding you if you talk anything like how you type however. I have owned every Sony console excluding the PS4 and every MS console. If that makes me a die hard lemming then by all means tar me with that brush.

I pull no punches when it comes to my dislike of the PS4, thats because its just as dull and uninspiring as the PS3 was when that was released. The PS4 is a decent gaming machine but there is absolutely nothing exciting or innovative about it. You can bash voice commands and motion gestures as much as you like but the fact remains the X1 is a far more interesting product with far more room to evolve.

The X1 has features that developers can use to push the boundaries of how we interact with our entertainment. The PS4 does 1080. I know which I am more excited about. Do you even own a PS4???

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@always_explicit said:

I shouldnt have to "think of a reason" to get a PS4. I should just "want one". I dont. Again I played Socom too. You didnt have to dig out a review to show me that it had voice commands. You stated the X1 was a media device. I stated that its a multi functional device with multiple ways to interact with media. It works very very well.

Again stating that kinect only works 68% of the time is totally ridiculous. I have one sitting in front of me now and it recognises me 95% of the time and im not exaggerating. It may have some trouble understanding you if you talk anything like how you type however. I have owned every Sony console excluding the PS4 and every MS console. If that makes me a die hard lemming then by all means tar me with that brush.

I pull no punches when it comes to my dislike of the PS4, thats because its just as dull and uninspiring as the PS3 was when that was released. The PS4 is a decent gaming machine but there is absolutely nothing exciting or innovative about it. You can bash voice commands and motion gestures as much as you like but the fact remains the X1 is a far more interesting product with far more room to evolve.

The X1 has features that developers can use to push the boundaries of how we interact with our entertainment. The PS4 does 1080. I know which I am more excited about. Do you even own a PS4???

Because you are a blind fanboy and that is OK,if you don't feel like getting one don't get it,but everything you say is your own personal bias opinion,i don't want an xbox one because it cost more while is weaker and centers its resources into doubling as a cable box,i already have 1 cable box i don't need console to use 2 devices to do what i can do with 1,and game wise the xbox one is a chore it has less than the PS4 has now and its next big game can be have in multiple platforms,so i get titanfall on 360 and save $560 dollars.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/gamespot-cnet-rips-on-the-kinect-2-0-vs-ps4-cam-30995125/?page=1

Oh look the first post justifying that crap is yours..hahahaa

The xbox one is the only console that needs a camera to do voice commands..hahaha

Is a chore of a console with boring garbage games,both consoles don't have great games now,the highest rated game on both is an Indie game that has 85%,is sad.

Voice commands are old and the PS4 does them without a camera.

Please dude shut up go shill in other place you sound like Albert Panello when talking about that crappy console.

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@tormentos: Haha you know you cant defend the PS4's pathetic launch lineup of games so you just tar the X1 with the same brush. All of the games out for the X1 are fantastic with the exception of Ryse which some people still love. Your right though, the PS4 games so far are crap.

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I wouldnt think to buy a Nintendo product ... Wii U lacking massive games i would love to play with. I wont pay 500$ just for 2-3 games.period. I prefer to spend those 500$ to buy around 50-60 titles from steam and play for 5 years straight.

Anyways if i had to choose PS4 vs X1 , as i said before , Sony proved with every single console they released under any circumstance ( profits or losses ) they value their products and their customers like no other company by releasing high quality games for last gen consoles even when they releasing their next-gen products. Who else would have done that or ever did especially if they would be on a huge loss or dead last ? Noone.

TLOU and GT6 are out for PS3 , the dead last of last gen.. Where is X360 let alone Wii ? Where is the support? Where are the games considering both won vs Sony and PS3 with Nintendo and why not M$ being on the profits unlike Sony which ended up with billions of losses the last 7 years ? Where are you lems/sheeps? Where?

I dont care about launch up titles nor is the main factor which console ill buy. I care about what ill get after 2-3-4-5-6 years more than just the first month or 2 or 5. And Sony beat the hell out of M$ and Nintendo combined in that matter , therefore PS4 all the way.

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kinect

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#67  Edited By Telekill
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Well said @TheShensolidus

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@kuu2 said:

No proof and no links yet this turd of a thread stays open.

Welcome to CowSpot.

PS4 sold 1 million in one day in north america. It took xboxone 9 days.

I think its safe to say that the PS4 is winning the first month but its only the first month.

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Damn, Tormentos is slaying the lems in this thread lol.

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It's all of that. Xbone has a lot of haters. It is weaker in terms of power yet more costly. And some people just don't like kinect but honestly it's usually more than that. But the biggest difference is the price.

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@always_explicit said:

@tormentos: Haha you know you cant defend the PS4's pathetic launch lineup of games so you just tar the X1 with the same brush. All of the games out for the X1 are fantastic with the exception of Ryse which some people still love. Your right though, the PS4 games so far are crap.

Yeah fantastic piece of sh**...hahaha

DR 78%

Forza 79%

Ryse 60+%...

Resogun 85%...lol

No i actually know both units failed to deliver something great period,the highest score game is an Indie game period,you can hide all you want on gamespot reviews fact is outside this side every single exclusive flopped for both the xbox one and PS4.

@kuu2 said:

Actually we know that both consoles have sold 2million. Outside of that we don't know much more.

The PS4 is selling more deal with it..

The PS4 sold in 15 days more than what the xbox one sold in 18 days.

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@tormentos said:

@always_explicit said:

@tormentos: Haha you know you cant defend the PS4's pathetic launch lineup of games so you just tar the X1 with the same brush. All of the games out for the X1 are fantastic with the exception of Ryse which some people still love. Your right though, the PS4 games so far are crap.

Yeah fantastic piece of sh**...hahaha

DR 78%

Forza 79%

Ryse 60+%...

Resogun 85%...lol

No i actually know both units failed to deliver something great period,the highest score game is an Indie game period,you can hide all you want on gamespot reviews fact is outside this side every single exclusive flopped for both the xbox one and PS4.

@kuu2 said:

Actually we know that both consoles have sold 2million. Outside of that we don't know much more.

The PS4 is selling more deal with it..

The PS4 sold in 15 days more than what the xbox one sold in 18 days.

Im not hiding anywhere, behind any review. DR3 being at 78% doesnt mean a thing to me. Im playing it and its one of the most fun games I have played. Not because its a technical marvel, its just an awful lot of fun. Resogun is a great game but comparing indie titles with small scope to full blown launch titles is silly. Dont tell me reviewers use exactly the same criteria to judge Resogun and DR3. All you can comment on is statistics and sales figures all of which is meaningless to people who already own these consoles. The X1 is by far the superior console thus far. At present it has a better set of games and its an incredibly competent multimedia device. You keep saying both MS and Sony failed to deliver but the truth is Xboxers have more than their fair share of titles to play.

Gaming is all about the subtle differences that make the user feel integrated and part of the experience, this is were the X1 really has the PS4 trumped. Today I walked into my living room, was recognised and greeted by my Xbox, I opened netflix with my voice, browsed the selection of British comedy with hand gestures. Then when my wife went to the shop I switched seamlessly to a game of FIFA I started hours previously. Then after enjoying one of the songs I heard on FIFA I switched seamlessly again to the internet browser to find some more tracks to purchase at a later date. Whilst playing fifa I could change tactics and make substitutions with my voice...no need to enter the menu's whatsoever during the vast majority of games which is great particularly with more than one player in the room.

These, whilst not ground breaking revelations are all wonderful subtle differences that make the X1 an absolute pleasure to use, and this is just the beginning. So yeah....stick your statistics. Im a gamer, not a analyst.

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@kuu2 said:

@tormentos said:


@kuu2 said:

Actually we know that both consoles have sold 2million. Outside of that we don't know much more.

The PS4 is selling more deal with it..

The PS4 sold in 15 days more than what the xbox one sold in 18 days.

In other words you are agreeing with me. Next up Tormy will tell us that The One has the best games and act like it is a surprise.

Poor little Tormy, his WobbleS4 is not decimating a console that is $100 more expensive.

This year is going to be awesome!

Is that why PSN was down for like 2 days almost on the ps4 (Christmas day- 26 Dec) while it worked fine on ps3. Its obvious Sony's servers were seeing a large amount of traffic (probably new accounts and new people trying to log on). More people obviously got a ps4 under thier tree than xbox one. Only delusional lems believe that Sony only has 100,000 unit lead on MS.....

(before you come up with the lame excuse of "PSN sucks" PSN worked just fine for PS3 during that period....

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The price mostly. If this baby was $300 or $350 it would have outsold the PS4. Especially if they included a game bundle as well.

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@tormentos said:

@always_explicit said:

@tormentos: Haha you know you cant defend the PS4's pathetic launch lineup of games so you just tar the X1 with the same brush. All of the games out for the X1 are fantastic with the exception of Ryse which some people still love. Your right though, the PS4 games so far are crap.

Yeah fantastic piece of sh**...hahaha

DR 78%

Forza 79%

Ryse 60+%...

Resogun 85%...lol

No i actually know both units failed to deliver something great period,the highest score game is an Indie game period,you can hide all you want on gamespot reviews fact is outside this side every single exclusive flopped for both the xbox one and PS4.

@kuu2 said:

Actually we know that both consoles have sold 2million. Outside of that we don't know much more.

The PS4 is selling more deal with it..

The PS4 sold in 15 days more than what the xbox one sold in 18 days.

Haha youre such a loser.

Do you always let others dictate what you enjoy and what you don't enjoy? The fact that you have to rely on game reviews as opposed to actually playing the game yourself is a true indication of how petty you are.

You are so blinded by fanboy rage that you cant appreciate the fact that xbox has a better exclusive lineup. I loved ryse, should I hate it now that some guy didn't. Maybe in your world.

Im sure PS4 will release something worthwhile one day.

ANyways have fun with your indy games, im sure they are a blast.

Back to dead rising 3 I go. What....a.....game, hands down best game on the next gen consoles.

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@kuu2 said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@kuu2 said:

In other words you are agreeing with me. Next up Tormy will tell us that The One has the best games and act like it is a surprise.

Poor little Tormy, his WobbleS4 is not decimating a console that is $100 more expensive.

This year is going to be awesome!

Is that why PSN was down for like 2 days almost on the ps4 (Christmas day- 26 Dec) while it worked fine on ps3. Its obvious Sony's servers were seeing a large amount of traffic (probably new accounts and new people trying to log on). More people obviously got a ps4 under thier tree than xbox one. Only delusional lems believe that Sony only has 100,000 unit lead on MS.....

(before you come up with the lame excuse of "PSN sucks" PSN worked just fine for PS3 during that period....

Actually I don't know what or who is ahead. I do know that each console (The One and WobbleS4) have shattered previous sales launch records. Only Sony Fan pretends to know how these consoles have sold since launch other than what has been reported. We will see what has been happening when the reports come out later in January.

My One has been awesome so far and is the most innovative console ever created. I will buy a WobbleS4 when it is redesigned, actually doesn't wobble, and has games that matter.

Sure you dont know who is ahead....... ( My discussion on psn on ps4 being down for about 2 days kinda explains it all.) But you are right we will see when numbers are reported again ( I hope MS reports first, cuz I doubt they would report if Sony reports first and I'm sure everyone knows why lol).

The One being so innovative (voice commands are so innovative huh?). Most innovative ever console? Dont leave much room for Xbox 2 does it? lol

By the way your pun of WobbleS4 sounds stupid, why dont you say wobblestation? (Lems ridiculousness of this issue is kind of funny..., I'd be more worried about your diskdrive grinding your disks....)

As for games, Xone doesnt have a better lineup :

Gt6 >Forza 5 ( I realize GT6 is a ps3 game, if I wanted to play a racer on my ps4 I would rather play NFS) GT6 got higher score on metacritic score and has more cars and tracks

Knack=Ryse (except that knack is almost twice as long in play time)

killzone=DR3

Killer instinct = terrible pricing structure, this game was suppose to be free. I have seen reports of people playing online and if lag is too great the game will kick the other player out swapping with AI.... (If i wanted to play a fighter I could play Injustice on next gen

-Not to mention that pretty much all multiplats look better on PS4 while a lot of multiplats in 720p on the ONE lol

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@Evo_nine said:

Haha youre such a loser.

Do you always let others dictate what you enjoy and what you don't enjoy? The fact that you have to rely on game reviews as opposed to actually playing the game yourself is a true indication of how petty you are.

You are so blinded by fanboy rage that you cant appreciate the fact that xbox has a better exclusive lineup. I loved ryse, should I hate it now that some guy didn't. Maybe in your world.

Im sure PS4 will release something worthwhile one day.

ANyways have fun with your indy games, im sure they are a blast.

Back to dead rising 3 I go. What....a.....game, hands down best game on the next gen consoles.

So this s your sad excuse to justify the horrible scores.?

So lemming claims the line up is great,but when confronted with score,some how score doesn't matter and cow let people dictated what they like..hahaha

This is the worst damage control i have ever seen.scores are an opinion,nothing more nothing less,they are use as measurement and has always been.when a game is good on PS or when is bad period.

Wait how the xbox one line up is better based on what.? You sorry ass opinion.? Because scores doesn't say that all the contrary and if we by sales Killzone SF >>>>>>> xbox one exclusive,so what metric system you used to determine the xbox one has better games you sad troll.?

Oh so is your opinion ok then, love Knack Enjoy your crappy Kinect games,one day the xbox one may get something good,back to Killzone I go ,What ... a game hands down best game on next gen consoles.

Yeah i could be like you ^^^ and pretend crappy games are great,fact is that Indie walked all over any xbox one exclusive and is killing you lemmings..hahaha

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Im not hiding anywhere, behind any review. DR3 being at 78% doesnt mean a thing to me. Im playing it and its one of the most fun games I have played. Not because its a technical marvel, its just an awful lot of fun. Resogun is a great game but comparing indie titles with small scope to full blown launch titles is silly. Dont tell me reviewers use exactly the same criteria to judge Resogun and DR3. All you can comment on is statistics and sales figures all of which is meaningless to people who already own these consoles. The X1 is by far the superior console thus far. At present it has a better set of games and its an incredibly competent multimedia device. You keep saying both MS and Sony failed to deliver but the truth is Xboxers have more than their fair share of titles to play.

Gaming is all about the subtle differences that make the user feel integrated and part of the experience, this is were the X1 really has the PS4 trumped. Today I walked into my living room, was recognised and greeted by my Xbox, I opened netflix with my voice, browsed the selection of British comedy with hand gestures. Then when my wife went to the shop I switched seamlessly to a game of FIFA I started hours previously. Then after enjoying one of the songs I heard on FIFA I switched seamlessly again to the internet browser to find some more tracks to purchase at a later date. Whilst playing fifa I could change tactics and make substitutions with my voice...no need to enter the menu's whatsoever during the vast majority of games which is great particularly with more than one player in the room.

These, whilst not ground breaking revelations are all wonderful subtle differences that make the X1 an absolute pleasure to use, and this is just the beginning. So yeah....stick your statistics. Im a gamer, not a analyst.

I don't care if you enjoy it i know many people enjoyed even Ryse which is a piece of sh** game,regardless the game scored bad period is not a game that scream get this console for it.

A game is a game period,Journey beat Halo 4 here for Goty how the fu** did that happen an indie game beating a full game oh and Halo 4.

Mine craft is another testament to how good indie games are,wait what is the most played game out there.? Angry Birds.? Is that a full launch game.? Is a damn Indie game that stormed the industry,and it has more people playing than the top 20 games combined for all consoles.

That second bold part show how delusional you really are,so please show me what metric are you using to say those games are better,score.? Sales? or your biased ass opinion.?

The PS4 has even more games to play,several that like Titanfall are on other platform but not o xbox one,for example Injustice Gods among us,is a fighting game higher rated than KI and is not on xbox one,but is on PS4.

What about Trines2.? Not on xbox one higher rated than any xbox one exclusive to.

Top 10 xbox one games on GR.

1. FIFA 1490.90%
2. NBA 2K1487.83%
3. Madden NFL 2580.70%
4. Forza Motorsport 579.43%
5. Dead Rising 378.96%
6. Need for Speed: Rivals78.55%
7. Call of Duty: Ghosts77.40%
8. Peggle 276.88%
9. Killer Instinct73.59%
10. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - Freedom Cry72.00%

Top 10 PS4 games.

1. flower95.00%
2. FIFA 1487.97%
3. Trine 2: Complete Story86.00%
4. Resogun85.61%
5. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag85.47%
6. Injustice: Gods Among Us - Ultimate Edition85.00%
7. Battlefield 485.00%
8. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes84.75%
9. NBA 2K1484.10%
10. Need for Speed: Rivals

81.29%

Lets do math..

Xbox one.

1-90+ game

2-80+ games

7-70+ games.

PS4.

1-90+ game

11-80+ games.

Yeah i say 11 b ecause sound shapes and escape plan are not on the top 10,but also have 80 or more score.

Flower,Trines 2,Resogun,and Injustice Gods are not on xbox one,all are rated higher than any xbox one exclusive.

Does the xbox one has escape plan.? It has few entries but is at 80%.

What about Sound Shapes it even has a 9 score from this site,and is not on PC,only PS3 and PS4,it has 85% on GR..

So tell me what is your metric for saying the xbox one has better games,because GR scores just destroyed that notion and sales wise Killzon SF is scorching xbox one exclusives including DR3.

And here we go again with voice commands,is old tech dude and you don't need a damn camera to do those,i already proved that,welcome to 2002.

Funny thing i just press a button to open netflix,which is superior on PS4 by the way,and is not hidden under a damn paywall,like only MS consoles do,free of any walls like on PC,like on cell phones and tables only idiots pay for those free apps.

You are not a gamer if you were you owned a PS4.. ; -)

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@Vatusus said:

> More expensive

> Less powerfull

> Weaker 1st party

> (justifiable) bad press

These are the main reasons why I probably will never get a X1

Dat truth.

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@kuu2 said:

@tormentos said:


@kuu2 said:

Actually we know that both consoles have sold 2million. Outside of that we don't know much more.

The PS4 is selling more deal with it..

The PS4 sold in 15 days more than what the xbox one sold in 18 days.

In other words you are agreeing with me. Next up Tormy will tell us that The One has the best games and act like it is a surprise.

Poor little Tormy, his WobbleS4 is not decimating a console that is $100 more expensive.

This year is going to be awesome!

No i am not you claim both have sold 2 million that is a lie,the PS4 sold 2.1 million in 15 days,the xbox one 2.0 million in 18 days.

The xbox one even that accounted more days failed to do more than the PS4 did.

1. FIFA 1490.90%
2. NBA 2K1487.83%
3. Madden NFL 2580.70%
4. Forza Motorsport 579.43%
5. Dead Rising 378.96%
6. Need for Speed: Rivals78.55%
7. Call of Duty: Ghosts77.40%
8. Peggle 276.88%
9. Killer Instinct73.59%
10. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - Freedom Cry72.00%

Top 10 PS4 games.

1. flower95.00%
2. FIFA 1487.97%
3. Trine 2: Complete Story86.00%
4. Resogun85.61%
5. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag85.47%
6. Injustice: Gods Among Us - Ultimate Edition85.00%
7. Battlefield 485.00%
8. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes84.75%
9. NBA 2K1484.10%
10. Need for Speed: Rivals

81.29%

http://www.gamerankings.com/

The xbox has the best game,hahahaha pretend time is over time to face reality...hahaha

@kuu2 said:

Actually I don't know what or who is ahead. I do know that each console (The One and WobbleS4) have shattered previous sales launch records. Only Sony Fan pretends to know how these consoles have sold since launch other than what has been reported. We will see what has been happening when the reports come out later in January.

My One has been awesome so far and is the most innovative console ever created. I will buy a WobbleS4 when it is redesigned, actually doesn't wobble, and has games that matter.

What records MS shatter.? Those set by the xbox 360 i guess,because the 360 didn't have a record for the best launch,the PS4 is breaking all records,it broke records in US,it broke records in EU to.

The only thing the xbox one broke was xbox 360 numbers,records per say are all broken by the PS4.

I wonder what excuse you will use then when sony keep announcing higher numbers than MS.

The fact that you use the name wobble station basically show how bitter and sad you are,i prefer the wobble station to that crappy and weak 80's VCR that you call console..haha

@blackace said:

The price mostly. If this baby was $300 or $350 it would have outsold the PS4. Especially if they included a game bundle as well.

And if my grand mother haven't die she would still alive..

Funny thing is MS is not giving anything free,and is charging you $100 more for a weaker console,it is selling now because we are at the holidays were sales spike,lets see for how long the xbox one sales keep up,i don't think the xbox one will have the same legs the PS4 has now.

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@tormentos: Haha you know you cant defend the PS4's pathetic launch lineup of games so you just tar the X1 with the same brush. All of the games out for the X1 are fantastic with the exception of Ryse which some people still love. Your right though, the PS4 games so far are crap.


Once again i quoted both consoles top 10 games enjoy...hahahaha...

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#84 always_explicit
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@tormentos said:

@Evo_nine said:

Haha youre such a loser.

Do you always let others dictate what you enjoy and what you don't enjoy? The fact that you have to rely on game reviews as opposed to actually playing the game yourself is a true indication of how petty you are.

You are so blinded by fanboy rage that you cant appreciate the fact that xbox has a better exclusive lineup. I loved ryse, should I hate it now that some guy didn't. Maybe in your world.

Im sure PS4 will release something worthwhile one day.

ANyways have fun with your indy games, im sure they are a blast.

Back to dead rising 3 I go. What....a.....game, hands down best game on the next gen consoles.

So this s your sad excuse to justify the horrible scores.?

So lemming claims the line up is great,but when confronted with score,some how score doesn't matter and cow let people dictated what they like..hahaha

This is the worst damage control i have ever seen.scores are an opinion,nothing more nothing less,they are use as measurement and has always been.when a game is good on PS or when is bad period.

Wait how the xbox one line up is better based on what.? You sorry ass opinion.? Because scores doesn't say that all the contrary and if we by sales Killzone SF >>>>>>> xbox one exclusive,so what metric system you used to determine the xbox one has better games you sad troll.?

Oh so is your opinion ok then, love Knack Enjoy your crappy Kinect games,one day the xbox one may get something good,back to Killzone I go ,What ... a game hands down best game on next gen consoles.

Yeah i could be like you ^^^ and pretend crappy games are great,fact is that Indie walked all over any xbox one exclusive and is killing you lemmings..hahaha

@always_explicit said:

Im not hiding anywhere, behind any review. DR3 being at 78% doesnt mean a thing to me. Im playing it and its one of the most fun games I have played. Not because its a technical marvel, its just an awful lot of fun. Resogun is a great game but comparing indie titles with small scope to full blown launch titles is silly. Dont tell me reviewers use exactly the same criteria to judge Resogun and DR3. All you can comment on is statistics and sales figures all of which is meaningless to people who already own these consoles. The X1 is by far the superior console thus far. At present it has a better set of games and its an incredibly competent multimedia device. You keep saying both MS and Sony failed to deliver but the truth is Xboxers have more than their fair share of titles to play.

Gaming is all about the subtle differences that make the user feel integrated and part of the experience, this is were the X1 really has the PS4 trumped. Today I walked into my living room, was recognised and greeted by my Xbox, I opened netflix with my voice, browsed the selection of British comedy with hand gestures. Then when my wife went to the shop I switched seamlessly to a game of FIFA I started hours previously. Then after enjoying one of the songs I heard on FIFA I switched seamlessly again to the internet browser to find some more tracks to purchase at a later date. Whilst playing fifa I could change tactics and make substitutions with my voice...no need to enter the menu's whatsoever during the vast majority of games which is great particularly with more than one player in the room.

These, whilst not ground breaking revelations are all wonderful subtle differences that make the X1 an absolute pleasure to use, and this is just the beginning. So yeah....stick your statistics. Im a gamer, not a analyst.

I don't care if you enjoy it i know many people enjoyed even Ryse which is a piece of sh** game,regardless the game scored bad period is not a game that scream get this console for it.

A game is a game period,Journey beat Halo 4 here for Goty how the fu** did that happen an indie game beating a full game oh and Halo 4.

Mine craft is another testament to how good indie games are,wait what is the most played game out there.? Angry Birds.? Is that a full launch game.? Is a damn Indie game that stormed the industry,and it has more people playing than the top 20 games combined for all consoles.

That second bold part show how delusional you really are,so please show me what metric are you using to say those games are better,score.? Sales? or your biased ass opinion.?

The PS4 has even more games to play,several that like Titanfall are on other platform but not o xbox one,for example Injustice Gods among us,is a fighting game higher rated than KI and is not on xbox one,but is on PS4.

What about Trines2.? Not on xbox one higher rated than any xbox one exclusive to.

Top 10 xbox one games on GR.

1. FIFA 1490.90%
2. NBA 2K1487.83%
3. Madden NFL 2580.70%
4. Forza Motorsport 579.43%
5. Dead Rising 378.96%
6. Need for Speed: Rivals78.55%
7. Call of Duty: Ghosts77.40%
8. Peggle 276.88%
9. Killer Instinct73.59%
10. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - Freedom Cry72.00%

Top 10 PS4 games.

1. flower95.00%
2. FIFA 1487.97%
3. Trine 2: Complete Story86.00%
4. Resogun85.61%
5. Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag85.47%
6. Injustice: Gods Among Us - Ultimate Edition85.00%
7. Battlefield 485.00%
8. LEGO Marvel Super Heroes84.75%
9. NBA 2K1484.10%
10. Need for Speed: Rivals

81.29%

Lets do math..

Xbox one.

1-90+ game

2-80+ games

7-70+ games.

PS4.

1-90+ game

11-80+ games.

Yeah i say 11 b ecause sound shapes and escape plan are not on the top 10,but also have 80 or more score.

Flower,Trines 2,Resogun,and Injustice Gods are not on xbox one,all are rated higher than any xbox one exclusive.

Does the xbox one has escape plan.? It has few entries but is at 80%.

What about Sound Shapes it even has a 9 score from this site,and is not on PC,only PS3 and PS4,it has 85% on GR..

So tell me what is your metric for saying the xbox one has better games,because GR scores just destroyed that notion and sales wise Killzon SF is scorching xbox one exclusives including DR3.

And here we go again with voice commands,is old tech dude and you don't need a damn camera to do those,i already proved that,welcome to 2002.

Funny thing i just press a button to open netflix,which is superior on PS4 by the way,and is not hidden under a damn paywall,like only MS consoles do,free of any walls like on PC,like on cell phones and tables only idiots pay for those free apps.

You are not a gamer if you were you owned a PS4.. ; -)

Flower....Trine....Resogun haha. You can keep em buddy.

Your "a game is a game" argument is ridiculous. Indies are obviously judged by a different set of criteria because they have a far smaller scope.

Its beyond me that you can look at those two lists and still claim the PS4 has superior games.

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Counting indie titles as a basis to purchase one console over another is just stupid. It was stupid when the lems did it on the 360 and its stupid to see Cows cling on to Resogun and flower now.

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#86  Edited By tormentos
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@always_explicit said:

Flower....Trine....Resogun haha. You can keep em buddy.

Your "a game is a game" argument is ridiculous. Indies are obviously judged by a different set of criteria because they have a far smaller scope.

Its beyond me that you can look at those two lists and still claim the PS4 has superior games.

An yet you love Ryse...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

You are insane...

The “indie” powerhouse Minecraft is now the most played game on Xbox Live, according to Xbox Live’s Major Nelson. It marks another milestone for the unlikely Swedish megahit. What’s more, this implies the amount of time spent playing Minecraft is actually much, much higher than its closest competitor, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 — Xbox Live probably isn’t even the most popular platform for Minecraft.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/10/29/minecraft-beats-call-of-duty-to-become-most-played-game-on-xbox-live/

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GTA IV
Borderlands 2
Gears of War 3
Halo: Reach
Forza Motorsport 4
Forza Horizon
EA SPORTS NHL 13

http://majornelson.com/2013/01/09/live-activity-for-week-of-december-31st/

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa........... But but but Indies are crap but but but Indies suck...

What better testament to you been full of sh** that xbox live on activity list,Minecraft actually beat MW3 and called top spot on xbox live,not only that after blacks ops 2 and Halo 4 came out,Minecraft even that it was older was able to beat Halo 4 online as well,when Halo 4 was a damn month old...hahaha

Fast forward to 2013..

December 5 2013 list..

Grand Theft Auto V
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition
FIFA 14
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Battlefield 4
Skyrim
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Madden NFL 25
EA Sports FIFA Soccer 13
NBA 2K14
Halo 4
Assassin’s Creed IV Black Flag
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Battlefield 3
NBA 2K13
Halo: Reach
Iron Brigade
GTA IV

http://majornelson.com/2013/12/05/live-activity-for-week-of-november-25/

What what what.... Minecraft still there on the 4th spot and on top of new games like Fifa 14 and Halo4.?

As you can see your whole argument of Indies is poor crap,xbox live and the xbox 360 are a testament to how great indies can be,and how they will go toe to toe with any big game,you sir had been owned by your own user base lemmings who love Indies even more than Halo 4..hahahaa

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#87 always_explicit
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@tormentos said:

@always_explicit said:

Flower....Trine....Resogun haha. You can keep em buddy.

Your "a game is a game" argument is ridiculous. Indies are obviously judged by a different set of criteria because they have a far smaller scope.

Its beyond me that you can look at those two lists and still claim the PS4 has superior games.

An yet you love Ryse...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

You are insane...

The “indie” powerhouse Minecraft is now the most played game on Xbox Live, according to Xbox Live’s Major Nelson. It marks another milestone for the unlikely Swedish megahit. What’s more, this implies the amount of time spent playing Minecraft is actually much, much higher than its closest competitor, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 — Xbox Live probably isn’t even the most popular platform for Minecraft.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/10/29/minecraft-beats-call-of-duty-to-become-most-played-game-on-xbox-live/

LIVE Activity for week of December 31st

Xbox 360 Top LIVE Titles (based onUU’s)

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Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition
Halo 4
EA Sports FIFA Soccer 13
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
NBA 2K13
Skyrim
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Assassin’s Creed III
Madden NFL 13
Far Cry 3
Battlefield 3
Modern Warfare 2
GTA IV
Borderlands 2
Gears of War 3
Halo: Reach
Forza Motorsport 4
Forza Horizon
EA SPORTS NHL 13

http://majornelson.com/2013/01/09/live-activity-for-week-of-december-31st/

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa........... But but but Indies are crap but but but Indies suck...

What better testament to you been full of sh** that xbox live on activity list,Minecraft actually beat MW3 and called top spot on xbox live,not only that after blacks ops 2 and Halo 4 came out,Minecraft even that it was older was able to beat Halo 4 online as well,when Halo 4 was a damn month old...hahaha

Fast forward to 2013..

December 5 2013 list..

Grand Theft Auto V

Call of Duty: Ghosts

Call of Duty: Black Ops II

Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition

FIFA 14

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Battlefield 4

Skyrim

Call of Duty: Black Ops

Madden NFL 25

EA Sports FIFA Soccer 13

NBA 2K14

Halo 4

Assassin’s Creed IV Black Flag

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Battlefield 3

NBA 2K13

Halo: Reach

Iron Brigade

GTA IV

http://majornelson.com/2013/12/05/live-activity-for-week-of-november-25/

What what what.... Minecraft still there on the 4th spot and on top of new games like Fifa 14 and Halo4.?

As you can see your whole argument of Indies is poor crap,xbox live and the xbox 360 are a testament to how great indies can be,and how they will go toe to toe with any big game,you sir had been owned by your own user base lemmings who love Indies even more than Halo 4..hahahaa

Firstly I never said I liked Ryse, I actually implied the opposite but stated that "some people" like it. Please read my points properly. I also never said Indie titles dont have their place, I said they are reviewed on a different set of criteria due to their smaller scope. Angry birds is great but how based on a % score can you compare it to GTA or any full retail games. The same can be said for Minecraft. on the 360. Its a great game in its own right but should it be reviewed by the same set of criteria as an open world sandbox when it is never going to experience frame rate issues, nor is it pushing the consoles graphical capabilities.

Im not bashing indie titles, but should they be counted as a solid reason to purchase one console over another??? I dont think so.

Im looking at the X1 list and im seeing multiplats exclusives and indie titles in the top ten you provided. I cant see the same balance in the PS4 list you provided.

Also...your the laughing stock of Sw and you dont even know it.

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#88  Edited By PinkieWinkie
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Wobbles4? Do some ps4s have a balance problem or something? I got mine day 1 and it definitely doesn't wobble.

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#89  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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@PinkieWinkie said:

Wobbles4? Do some ps4s have a balance problem or something? I got mine day 1 and it definitely doesn't wobble.

Lems are ridiculous and are just looking for something to critisize as they dont have much lol. PS4 wobbles only if you press down on the corner, and its not really that big of a wobble

Just having it sit in your entertainment center vertically, it wont wobble, only when you press down on it will it wobble lol

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No, ive played killzone and knack and it wasn't enough to justify a purchase for me. One day sony will release something worthwhile.

But i think its great that you like indy games. Someone has to buy that crap and The PS4 is the perfect platform as that's all it has to offer.

I on the other hand like blockbuster titles so I prefer the xbox.

So yeah, have fun with flower I heard its really great but I think ill pass.

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#91 blackace
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Is anyone reading Tormentos wall of text garbage? Me either. lol!! The reviews on Gamerankings aren't even complete. Many of the XBox One reviews only have 4-5 reviews, while the PS4 has like 20-30 reviews. They need to update their site with the rest of XBox One reviews. The scores on both Gamerankings and Metacrit aren't accurate yet, because all the reviews haven't been posted on the site yet. The sales aren't critical at launch. The Ps2 didn't sell as much as the PS4 or XB1 at launch, yet it still went on to sell over 150 million units. I don't think either the PS4 or XB1 will sell like the Wii or PS2. Sales are going to drop for both systems come Feb & March, unlike the Wii, which was sold out for a complete year.

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#92  Edited By I_can_haz
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@blackace: every gen we have idiots like you saying consoles are dead or sales will drop off, and the number of consoles sold continues to get higher. Gaming is bigger than it has ever been and continues to grow, records are being broken left and right. The only thing outright flopping is the WIiU and mostly due to Nintendo's stupidity and poor marketing and has nothing to do with slowing sales. The market share for Sony and MS will grow while Nintendo's decreases to balance things. The market for console games is totally different from the tablet and phone market. People that like the console experience aren't gonna drop consoles to go play on their tablets and vice versa.

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#93 blackace
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@I_can_haz said:

@blackace: every gen we have idiots like you saying consoles are dead or sales will drop off, and the number of consoles sold continues to get higher. Gaming is bigger than it has ever been and continues to grow, records are being broken left and right. The only thing outright flopping is the WIiU and mostly due to Nintendo's stupidity and poor marketing and has nothing to do with slowing sales. The market share for Sony and MS will grow while Nintendo's decreases to balance things. The market for console games is totally different from the tablet and phone market. People that like the console experience aren't gonna drop consoles to go play on their tablets and vice versa.

Who said anything about tablets? Console sales always drop after the holidays. If you knew anything about the game console trends and launches, you would know this. The Wii is the only console that was an exception. It's the only game console in the history of gaming to be consistently sold out for a full year. Sony will eventually catch up to the PS4 demand and it won't take a year, I can guarantee you that. Mainly the reason why Wii was sold out for so long was because there were millions of casual gamers interested in it. PS4 is more for hardcore gamers and there are a lot less of them. That's why demand will drop off on both systems sometime Feb or March. Sales will start to pick up again as Fall approaches. This is how it works.

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#94 tormentos
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@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

@blackace: every gen we have idiots like you saying consoles are dead or sales will drop off, and the number of consoles sold continues to get higher. Gaming is bigger than it has ever been and continues to grow, records are being broken left and right. The only thing outright flopping is the WIiU and mostly due to Nintendo's stupidity and poor marketing and has nothing to do with slowing sales. The market share for Sony and MS will grow while Nintendo's decreases to balance things. The market for console games is totally different from the tablet and phone market. People that like the console experience aren't gonna drop consoles to go play on their tablets and vice versa.

Who said anything about tablets? Console sales always drop after the holidays. If you knew anything about the game console trends and launches, you would know this. The Wii is the only console that was an exception. It's the only game console in the history of gaming to be consistently sold out for a full year. Sony will eventually catch up to the PS4 demand and it won't take a year, I can guarantee you that. Mainly the reason why Wii was sold out for so long was because there were millions of casual gamers interested in it. PS4 is more for hardcore gamers and there are a lot less of them. That's why demand will drop off on both systems sometime Feb or March. Sales will start to pick up again as Fall approaches. This is how it works.

It make me laugh when people say things like that,if like the Wii was the highest selling console in history and not the PS2,the wii hasn't even beat the PS1 numbers yet,and it is far from the PS2,i don't think the demand will lower by those months all the contrary on early next year the unit launch on Japan so there would be even more demand for it.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Because nobody wants it. Hasn't it been obvious since E3 that everybody is getting PS4?

Lems have to keep their hopes alive.

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#96  Edited By dbtbandit67
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More than price, it still has the mainstream perception that it is an all-media, online-connected, digital console. And while it reversed many of its policies (a lot of casual consumers are still unaware that it did), it's main strengths still lie in being a multi-media, online, digital console. When you go through its OS and play the games, you can just tell thats where its strengths are, and thats just the way it was designed. And it seems that more people just want a simple game console.

I personally like the convenience of not having to cycle through so many different controllers, and not having to cycle through inputs, only depending on One through my Xbox One, but the sales numbers are out, and the majority of Americans don't mind having to do those things. The PS4 does fewer things, but that can also be perceived as being simpler (easier to operate/understand), and the fewer things it does do, it does them better.

But let's wait till Titanfall comes out, that should move some units.

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@PAL360 said:

Too much focus on media

mandatory kinect

mandatory online?

weaker hardware compared to PS4

$500

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MS really asked for it, which is odd, since they did almost everything right with their previous consoles.

Too much focus on media for US if I may add. Not a lot of use for other countries.

It does have mandatory online in the way that it has a mandatory day one patch. PS4 and Wii U have patches these days as well, but I don't know if they are mandatory.