Wii 2 Controller Details, Publishers Have Dev Kits + AMD Trinity in Wii HD?

Source:http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/85621/rumor-wii-successor-controller-details-publishers-have-dev-kits/

"Sources have confirmed toEDGE Magazinethat third-party studios including those of Electronic Arts, Activision and Ubisoft have had development kits of the Wii successor for months.

The sources also claim that the unit will retain motion-control with capabilities that "better than Move" - speaking of course about the PlayStation 3's own motion-controller. They speak of higher fidelity but no word if this controller solution uses a camera.

The new console might not even have the Wii name, as Nintendo is actively pursuing the Western market and will most likely launch a whole new brand with its new system.

IGN has new details regarding the controller, it says from theirreportthat the controller's display will be far more complex than what we've seen from the Dreamcast and its VMU, and that "working simultaneously with the console to bring interactive elements and even stream full games to the controller."

IGN also have a mock-up of the rumored controller, which you can check out at theirsite."

IGN's concept Project Cafe controller:

This is all really cool, like the article stated IGN has an entire article dedicated to talking about the Wii 2 controller:http://gear.ign.com/articles/116/1162204p1.html

Check it out :) and before people get angry at me for me calling it the Wii 2, that's the only name we have for it right now so that's what it'll be called until there's an official name. Also, the Wii 2 is pretty much a given because these "rumors" are everywhere and we're getting constant information. I find it interesting how they're aiming for the western market with this new system. This looks to be the console I've wanted Nintendo to release for some time now.

Rumor from NeoGAF: The Wii HD is powered by the AMD Trinity

"The folks atNeoGAFhave done some detective work and determined that the Wii HD will supposedly be released in Fall 2012 and will be powered by the AMD Trinity."

In the past NeoGAF members have been correct such as the Mass Effect 2 on PS3 rumor that started up there, so this is questionable, but also pretty cool if true.

So it's basically a portable Version of OnLive with the server in your house?

im calling it, the controller will cost 100$ :P

Amazing if true, nintendo will own the market once again.G-O-M-J

They made a ton of profit from Wii and DS, so they had a lot to spend on their new console, and this could surely capture many gamers that weren't fond of the Wii such as myself.

I like the idea of the controller, but it won't look like that at all.

and it'd be great if nintendo used the amd trinity, it's around the 5750 level in power but is super compact and energy effecient.

huge jump from the ps3 and 360 :P

oh man- i'm gettin hyped for this... its really starting to sound amazing!!

Nintendo really going after a more core audience this gen would really be great.

im calling it, the controller will cost 100$ :P

VensInferno

but I want to play console games on a big screen HDTV, not a 6" screen on a controller.

but I want to play console games on a big screen HDTV, not a 6" screen on a controller.

CwlHeddwyn

I like the idea of the controller, but it won't look like that at all.

and it'd be great if nintendo used the amd trinity, it's around the 5750 level in power but is super compact and energy effecient.

huge jump from the ps3 and 360 :P

theuncharted34

Exactly :D and I can see a lot of developers moving on to the Wii 2 since we've heard complaints about hardware restrictions on current gen consoles. I'd love to see what they'll do with the screen on the controller. Maybe we can have the game screen mostly empty, online including a health bar and ammo or stamina/mana for RPG's, and all the menu stuff or inventory stuff will be kept on the screen on the controller. It's a good way of getting rid of clutter, or an Assassins Creed/Elder Scrolls map in controller screen, so you won't need to constantly check it. This is a really great idea that can turn out amazing if used correctly. A 2012 release date would be perfect since they'd be a step ahead of the competition and would rake in the devs and money. My hype just went up 200% :P

oh man- i'm gettin hyped for this... its really starting to sound amazing!!

Nintendo really going after a more core audience this gen would really be great.

Scoob64

That controller there actually wouldn't be too bad, but they're saying the screen is 6". That would take up almost that entire controller. Its gonna be a tablet sort of thing. MrSelf-Destruct

If the rumours are 90 - 100% accurate, which i doubt, otherwise they wouldn't be called rumours. It could still be true that there will a screen of some sort, but at 3".

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]That controller there actually wouldn't be too bad, but they're saying the screen is 6". That would take up almost that entire controller. Its gonna be a tablet sort of thing. Lucianu

If the rumours are 90 - 100% accurate, which i doubt, otherwise they wouldn't be called rumours. It could still be true that there will a screen of some sort, but at 3".

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]Amazing if true, nintendo will own the market once again.XVision84

They made a ton of profit from Wii and DS, so they had a lot to spend on their new console, and this could surely capture many gamers that weren't fond of the Wii such as myself.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]Amazing if true, nintendo will own the market once again.yellonet

They made a ton of profit from Wii and DS, so they had a lot to spend on their new console, and this could surely capture many gamers that weren't fond of the Wii such as myself.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]That controller there actually wouldn't be too bad, but they're saying the screen is 6". That would take up almost that entire controller. Its gonna be a tablet sort of thing. MrSelf-Destruct

If the rumours are 90 - 100% accurate, which i doubt, otherwise they wouldn't be called rumours. It could still be true that there will a screen of some sort, but at 3".

My 'rumours' are just as good as theirs. Who leaked it? What sources? And 50%, at least, is basic speculation using what little they may have. I'm not gonna jump on anything like that, but rather just go with the flow and speculate my self using logic and the little that may be something, 'till E3.

Anyway, here's some well tought speculation, using raw logic.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28550974/project-cafe-logical-thought-out-specs-based-on-facts.?tag=topics%3Btitle

I gotta say, this man put thought into it. Well worth the read (something that is uncommon on these forums).

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]Amazing if true, nintendo will own the market once again.yellonet

They made a ton of profit from Wii and DS, so they had a lot to spend on their new console, and this could surely capture many gamers that weren't fond of the Wii such as myself.

I'm sure they have a strategy to keep those who were fond of the Wii, but also bring in their N64/Game Cube fans. Nintendo wouldn't just abandon their Wii fanbase. It will be a cross breed between Wiimote and Dreamcast controller probably, maybe when it's vertical it's wiimote, but if it's horizontal, it's a dreamcast controller. Something like that only more complicated.

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

They made a ton of profit from Wii and DS, so they had a lot to spend on their new console, and this could surely capture many gamers that weren't fond of the Wii such as myself.

MrSelf-Destruct

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I like the idea of the controller, but it won't look like that at all.

and it'd be great if nintendo used the amd trinity, it's around the 5750 level in power but is super compact and energy effecient.

huge jump from the ps3 and 360 :P

XVision84

Exactly :D and I can see a lot of developers moving on to the Wii 2 since we've heard complaints about hardware restrictions on current gen consoles. I'd love to see what they'll do with the screen on the controller. Maybe we can have the game screen mostly empty, online including a health bar and ammo or stamina/mana for RPG's, and all the menu stuff or inventory stuff will be kept on the screen on the controller. It's a good way of getting rid of clutter, or an Assassins Creed/Elder Scrolls map in controller screen, so you won't need to constantly check it. This is a really great idea that can turn out amazing if used correctly. A 2012 release date would be perfect since they'd be a step ahead of the competition and would rake in the devs and money. My hype just went up 200% :P

my hype is up 500% :P

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

If the rumours are 90 - 100% accurate, which i doubt, otherwise they wouldn't be called rumours. It could still be true that there will a screen of some sort, but at 3".

Lucianu

My 'rumours' are just as good as theirs. Who leaked it? What sources? And 50%, at least, is basic speculation using what little they may have. I'm not gonna jump on anything like that, but rather just go with the flow and speculate my self using logic and the little that may be something, 'till E3.

Anyway, here's some well tought speculation, using raw logic.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28550974/project-cafe-logical-thought-out-specs-based-on-facts.?tag=topics%3Btitle

I gotta say, this man put thought into it. Well worth the read (something that is uncommon on these forums).

but I want to play console games on a big screen HDTV, not a 6" screen on a controller.

CwlHeddwyn

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

but I want to play console games on a big screen HDTV, not a 6" screen on a controller.

nethernova

I hope information keeps coming through, E3seems so far away and if this all turns out to be bull then Im gonna cry.

[QUOTE="nethernova"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

but I want to play console games on a big screen HDTV, not a 6" screen on a controller.

deadesa

i havent heard of AMD trinity. all i could gather is that its the next gen replacement for the current Llant fusion APUs and will have bulldozer tech. fusion APUs dont tend to clock high at the mo (though clocks dont tell us everything of course) so one wont be offering 360/PS3 beating performance on its own by the looks of it....i think. again my info is very sketchy at the mo..if anyone has a good link handy on AMD trinity then id love to have a look. still even if one is not good enough ninty could be thinking of having 2 or 3 and a lump of ram (assuming the rumour holds up of course..there is a conflicting rumour regarding specs). 3 trinities for example could offer much more umph. basically 6 bulldozer modules and 3 DX11 GPUs with 80+ stream processors a piece. mutli GPU can be a bit of a pain for PCs as drivers have to basically guess at dishing out the workload (though the latest is its much better now in terms of reliability and scaling up performance) but 3 GPUs and to the metal programming of consoles could be very interesting for devs and us in performance.osan0

[QUOTE="nethernova"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

but I want to play console games on a big screen HDTV, not a 6" screen on a controller.

deadesa

Well, what I'm basically getting from all these reports is that in terms of power the Wii 2 will be like the Dreamcast compared to the XBox and GC. Which is really pretty good compared to what the Wii was at least, lol.

I'm hearing some real interesting rumours and concepts about the Wii's successor and I can't wait until E3 to see if any of the news is true but the idea of the controller is pretty cool, I wonder how much it would cost though.fabz_95

Nintendo always sells at a profit and they tend to sell systems at good launch prices, so at least we won't see any "five hundred and ninety nine US dollars :D" at E3.

Just thought of something, BRAINSTORM.

Imagine how low the battery life will be on the controller with a screen, not to mention the cost. If it is going to have a screen then something tells me it will be removable like the Dreamcast VMU and not necessary for every game. This would also make extra controllers very cheap if all you need is a shell.

Also, when this visual unit is removed it becomes a standalone touchscreen handheld. Perhaps with a phone function or even acting as the consoles Wi-Fi adapter when connected to the controller. Virtual Console on the go? Maybe even using it to store saved games and take them to someone elses house. Take your N6 mini everywhere you go?

For motion control games replace the visual unit with a Wiimote, using the visual unit as the sensor bar. If the viusal unit has a camera or camera's then it could work similar to Move, or even Kinect. Double blow to the competition, triple even counting Apple.

Just thought of something, BRAINSTORM.

Imagine how low the battery life will be on the controller with a screen, not to mention the cost. If it is going to have a screen then something tells me it will be removable like the Dreamcast VMU and not necessary for every game. This would also make extra controllers very cheap if all you need is a shell.

Also, when this visual unit is removed it becomes a standalone touchscreen handheld. Perhaps with a phone function or even acting as the consoles Wi-Fi adapter when connected to the controller. Virtual Console on the go? Maybe even using it to store saved games and take them to someone elses house. Take your N6 mini everywhere you go?

For motion control games replace the visual unit with a Wiimote, using the visual unit as the sensor bar. If the viusal unit has a camera or camera's then it could work similar to Move, or even Kinect. Double blow to the competition, triple even counting Apple.

tomarlyn

Nah, I don't think battery life will be a problem. This is a console so it'll just come with a charging cable, but I like your idea of using it as a base for all controllers. The visual unit is the base controller which can be attached to multiple peripherals or controllers, that'd be pretty cool. No way will it be a Virtual Console on the go though, that'd make the console cost too much, way too much.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Just thought of something, BRAINSTORM.

Imagine how low the battery life will be on the controller with a screen, not to mention the cost. If it is going to have a screen then something tells me it will be removable like the Dreamcast VMU and not necessary for every game. This would also make extra controllers very cheap if all you need is a shell.

Also, when this visual unit is removed it becomes a standalone touchscreen handheld. Perhaps with a phone function or even acting as the consoles Wi-Fi adapter when connected to the controller. Virtual Console on the go? Maybe even using it to store saved games and take them to someone elses house. Take your N6 mini everywhere you go?

For motion control games replace the visual unit with a Wiimote, using the visual unit as the sensor bar. If the viusal unit has a camera or camera's then it could work similar to Move, or even Kinect. Double blow to the competition, triple even counting Apple.

XVision84

Nah, I don't think battery life will be a problem. This is a console so it'll just come with a charging cable, but I like your idea of using it as a base for all controllers. The visual unit is the base controller which can be attached to multiple peripherals or controllers, that'd be pretty cool. No way will it be a Virtual Console on the go though, that'd make the console cost too much, way too much.

Yeah maybe the other way round, with the visual unit as the base and not the controller shell. But I really meant battery life would be a problem if the screen is not removable with its own power source. I think the battery life would be like 6 hours at most with a built-in screen, rumble and motion. Therefore I think the visual unit would have multiple functions as a standalone device. I'm getting myself a little confused now here :P

Maybe not a VC on the go either, but maybe powerful enough to handle something like the PS3's mini's. The Dreamcast VMU played games, but they were really simple so the idea is sound.

I really dont get this touchscreen on cotroller thing, but hey - its Nintendo. They will do it right.

Man, now i really have to go to E3 somehow....i wanna see this thing up close

so, how much more powerful is a trinity compared to what PS3 and 360 have? My only concern is that when sony and MS decide to do their next consoles it'll be much more powerful than a trinity and then we'll be right back to square one with the wii 2 not being as powerful as the next MS and sony consoles and nintendo would once again miss out on multiplats

I'm having this horrible feeling that Project Cafe will be the Virtual Boy of the Home Consoles. :?

[QUOTE="osan0"]i havent heard of AMD trinity. all i could gather is that its the next gen replacement for the current Llant fusion APUs and will have bulldozer tech. fusion APUs dont tend to clock high at the mo (though clocks dont tell us everything of course) so one wont be offering 360/PS3 beating performance on its own by the looks of it....i think. again my info is very sketchy at the mo..if anyone has a good link handy on AMD trinity then id love to have a look. still even if one is not good enough ninty could be thinking of having 2 or 3 and a lump of ram (assuming the rumour holds up of course..there is a conflicting rumour regarding specs). 3 trinities for example could offer much more umph. basically 6 bulldozer modules and 3 DX11 GPUs with 80+ stream processors a piece. mutli GPU can be a bit of a pain for PCs as drivers have to basically guess at dishing out the workload (though the latest is its much better now in terms of reliability and scaling up performance) but 3 GPUs and to the metal programming of consoles could be very interesting for devs and us in performance.painguy1

All these rumors about the controllers are absolutely terrible. A 6 inchscreen in a gamepad is seriously one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. For all I know it could sell like gangbusters, but I hope that controller is sooo fake.

All these rumors about the controllers are absolutely terrible. A 6 inchscreen in a gamepad is seriously one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. For all I know it could sell like gangbusters, but I hope that controller is sooo fake.

Giant_Panda

this is nintendo we are talking about here....they're crazy and insane and their ideas and innovations are always out of the ordinary....but it somehow always works amazingly in the end for them and all their competitors copy them and ride their coat tail of success

So far it looks interesting but I don't like the idea of the screen on the controller if that was true probably 4 controllers will cost more than the new system.

That controller would rock! Imagine playing an fps and being able to touch the screen on the controller to select a weapon/use something from the inventory. It could be used for playcalling in sports games. It would completely eliminate the need to press start and navigate an invertory in rpg's. It just has a ton of applications.

So basically they are going to sell you a gigantic DS with motion controls? :P

So basically they are going to sell you a gigantic DS with motion controls? :P

Espada12

[QUOTE="Giant_Panda"]

All these rumors about the controllers are absolutely terrible. A 6 inchscreen in a gamepad is seriously one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. For all I know it could sell like gangbusters, but I hope that controller is sooo fake.

CDUB316

this is nintendo we are talking about here....they're crazy and insane and their ideas and innovations are always out of the ordinary....but it somehow always works amazingly in the end for them and all their competitors copy them and ride their coat tail of success

No, their innovations are not out of the ordinary at all. Touchscreens and motion controlls have had gaming implications for a long time, Nintendo was just the first one that was willing to take a risk with them. The DS controlls turned out amazing, the Wii worked fairly well for what it was too. I firmly believe however that the touch screen in a controller will not work well for gamers at all, commercial success aside. Would there be unique experiences for such a device? Yes there would, but I don't think the costs of adding the screen would be worth the benefits.

Anyone else think it'd be funny if Nintendo didn't announce anything now?bobbetybob