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Check GameRankings. MGS4 doesn't come close and GTA IV falls behind SMG when the PS3 and 360 scores are averaged together, which is the generally accepted method of finding the GameRankings average of a multiplat game on GameSpot boards.JAB991
So far I have not seen a single person try to name 13 better 360 upcoming exclusives.... only attempts to bas the Wii games I listed.
Where's your list of upcoming exclusive 360 games guys?
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Oh yeah i remeber that 2years old game hee btw Halo:CE was once rated 9.7 rofl.....sad part is that sheeps not getting any good games for 1year+ so they keep talking about ollllld stuff that evry1 already finished and sold Syferonik
http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html
It's actually the best reviewed game since OoT and the second best reviewed game of all time. When you say "pc/360 exclusives are and always will be better than mario mario and more mario", please know how misinformed you are.
Naa just tired of Metroid/Zelda/Mario for the past 20years same stuff.....maybe if they were releasing them once per couple of years like FF is doing it would be fine but nop its 700mario games, 20zeldas that are so far from OoT quality and 100metroid games.It's not all too troubling that these games have many entries into their main series. I don't think anyone would argue that spin-off titles, such as Mario Party and Mario sports titles aren't great, but the main series have stayed fresh over time by evolving. No one gets mad that Metal Gear's been around for nearly 20 years. A game shouldn't be knocked just because its of a certain series, especially when the quality doesn't suffer for it. Super Mario Galaxy, the Metriod Prime titles, and the most recent Zelda titles (Phantom Hourglass and Twilight Princess) were all great titles. They all have aggregate review scores of over 90%. It's not an issue that many of them are churned out.
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[QUOTE="JAB991"]Sorry, but last I checked, Super Mario Galaxy was the best reviewed game since Ocarina of Time.
JAB991
Check GameRankings. MGS4 doesn't come close and GTA IV falls behind SMG when the PS3 and 360 scores are averaged together, which is the generally accepted method of finding the GameRankings average of a multiplat game on GameSpot boards.
I can tell you right now that MGS is 10 times better than mario, and if you disagree its because you havent played MGS. And the website you gave as a source is too bias. Some games are the average of 5 reviews some are the average of 80 reviews. For it to be accurate you would have to take the average of the same amount of reviews from the same people reviewing.So far I have not seen a single person try to name 13 better 360 upcoming exclusives.... only attempts to bas the Wii games I listed.
Where's your list of upcoming exclusive 360 games guys?
TheNextOrder
Virtually none of those games are exclusive. Try again. This time with only exclusives.12 AA-AAA (potential) games coming for 360 that are not on Wii.
- Halo ODST
- Mass Effect 2
- MW2
-Bioshock 2
-Assasins Creed 2
-Alan Wake
- Bionic commando
-Dead Rising 2
- Lost Planet 2
-Splinter cell conviction
-Prototype
-Batman Arkham asylum
12 games comming to 360 that are not on Wii. ( plus it's a much more attractive list IMO)
deangallop
[QUOTE="JAB991"]Check GameRankings. MGS4 doesn't come close and GTA IV falls behind SMG when the PS3 and 360 scores are averaged together, which is the generally accepted method of finding the GameRankings average of a multiplat game on GameSpot boards.foxhound_fox
The generally accepted standards that I've noticed on these boards is that GameSpot scores are used for assigning titles such as A, AA, AAA, etc, and that GameRankings is used for Best Ever titles when spanning great periods of time, which in this case, is the history of video games. For a true contender for high ranks, such as Super Mario Galaxy in this case, there are a huge amount of review scores factored into its final aggregate percentage. A 5/5 wouldn't make a big dent when there are 70+ total scores included.
Virtually none of those games are exclusive. Try again. This time with only exclusives. Nah that's impossible not only with the 360 but pretty much with every other current gen system. My list can't be found on the wii, and I would bet my account that the average of my games by the time they are released would average 2 points ahead of your wii exclusive list.[QUOTE="deangallop"]
12 AA-AAA (potential) games coming for 360 that are not on Wii.
- Halo ODST
- Mass Effect 2
- MW2
-Bioshock 2
-Assasins Creed 2
-Alan Wake
- Bionic commando
-Dead Rising 2
- Lost Planet 2
-Splinter cell conviction
-Prototype
-Batman Arkham asylum
12 games comming to 360 that are not on Wii. ( plus it's a much more attractive list IMO)
TheNextOrder
ya know when people say "Wii has no games" they mean wii has no fun games, i mean of course they have some...I'm even a PS fan and i'm on 360's side here.So far I have not seen a single person try to name 13 better 360 upcoming exclusives.... only attempts to bas the Wii games I listed.
Where's your list of upcoming exclusive 360 games guys?
TheNextOrder
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Actually, that would be Metal Gear Solid 4 and Grand Theft Auto IV. GTA being a huge multiplat that the Wii never got.brennan7777
Check GameRankings. MGS4 doesn't come close and GTA IV falls behind SMG when the PS3 and 360 scores are averaged together, which is the generally accepted method of finding the GameRankings average of a multiplat game on GameSpot boards.
I can tell you right now that MGS is 10 times better than mario, and if you disagree its because you havent played MGS. And the website you gave as a source is too bias. Some games are the average of 5 reviews some are the average of 80 reviews. For it to be accurate you would have to take the average of the same amount of reviews from the same people reviewing.It's funny you say GameRankings, a collection of multiple journalist outlets, is biased while your reason for saying MGS4 is better than SMG is "I can tell you right now." Please, tell me right now and use evidence to back up your claim.
Virtually none of those games are exclusive. Try again. This time with only exclusives.[QUOTE="deangallop"]
12 AA-AAA (potential) games coming for 360 that are not on Wii.
- Halo ODST
- Mass Effect 2
- MW2
-Bioshock 2
-Assasins Creed 2
-Alan Wake
- Bionic commando
-Dead Rising 2
- Lost Planet 2
-Splinter cell conviction
-Prototype
-Batman Arkham asylum
12 games comming to 360 that are not on Wii. ( plus it's a much more attractive list IMO)
TheNextOrder
3 of them are virtually none? Since none of those games are coming to Wii, they are exclusive. Unless you are hiding behind the PC/PS3...
Virtually none of those games are exclusive. Try again. This time with only exclusives.[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]
[QUOTE="deangallop"]
12 AA-AAA (potential) games coming for 360 that are not on Wii.
- Halo ODST
- Mass Effect 2
- MW2
-Bioshock 2
-Assasins Creed 2
-Alan Wake
- Bionic commando
-Dead Rising 2
- Lost Planet 2
-Splinter cell conviction
-Prototype
-Batman Arkham asylum
12 games comming to 360 that are not on Wii. ( plus it's a much more attractive list IMO)
AlphaGamer469
3 of them are virtually none? Since none of those games are coming to Wii, they are exclusive. Unless you are hiding behind the PC/PS3...
Yes 3 are virtually none. I posted 13. THIRTEEN upcoming Wii exclusives and the best anyone has come up with isTHREE 360 exclusives... 3?!I can tell you right now that MGS is 10 times better than mario, and if you disagree its because you havent played MGS. And the website you gave as a source is too bias. Some games are the average of 5 reviews some are the average of 80 reviews. For it to be accurate you would have to take the average of the same amount of reviews from the same people reviewing.[QUOTE="brennan7777"]
[QUOTE="JAB991"]
Check GameRankings. MGS4 doesn't come close and GTA IV falls behind SMG when the PS3 and 360 scores are averaged together, which is the generally accepted method of finding the GameRankings average of a multiplat game on GameSpot boards.
JAB991
It's funny you say GameRankings, a collection of multiple journalist outlets, is biased while your reason for saying MGS4 is better than SMG is "I can tell you right now." Please, tell me right now and use evidence to back up your claim.
Well you cant really "prove" an opinion, but i have played both and MGS is leaps and bounds ahead of SMG in almost everything. Have you actually played both games or are you just saying SMG is better because you're one of the dillusional wii fanboys that thinksthe wiican actually compete with next gen consoles?[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]
[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Virtually none of those games are exclusive. Try again. This time with only exclusives.
TheNextOrder
3 of them are virtually none? Since none of those games are coming to Wii, they are exclusive. Unless you are hiding behind the PC/PS3...
Yes 3 are virtually none. I posted 13. THIRTEEN upcoming Wii exclusives and the best anyone has come up with isTHREE 360 exclusives... 3?!Since the aformentioned list cannot be played on Wii due to the technological limitations of the Wii, they are exclusive. Unless you are hiding behind the PS3 or PC.
Yes 3 are virtually none. I posted 13. THIRTEEN upcoming Wii exclusives and the best anyone has come up with isTHREE 360 exclusives... 3?![QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]
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3 of them are virtually none? Since none of those games are coming to Wii, they are exclusive. Unless you are hiding behind the PC/PS3...
AlphaGamer469
Since the aformentioned list cannot be played on Wii due to the technological limitations of the Wii, they are exclusive. Unless you are hiding behind the PS3 or PC.
So your going to try to change Systemwars definition of what an exclusive is just because the 360 doesnt have even a remotely comparable upcoming list of exclusives as the Wii? :|Yes 3 are virtually none. I posted 13. THIRTEEN upcoming Wii exclusives and the best anyone has come up with isTHREE 360 exclusives... 3?!
TheNextOrder
Well, the 360s in a exclusive drought, Im pretty sure evry consoles been through this. In fact, I seem to remember a certain console that was in a pretty heavy 2 year drought.
[QUOTE="JAB991"]
[QUOTE="brennan7777"] I can tell you right now that MGS is 10 times better than mario, and if you disagree its because you havent played MGS. And the website you gave as a source is too bias. Some games are the average of 5 reviews some are the average of 80 reviews. For it to be accurate you would have to take the average of the same amount of reviews from the same people reviewing.
brennan7777
It's funny you say GameRankings, a collection of multiple journalist outlets, is biased while your reason for saying MGS4 is better than SMG is "I can tell you right now." Please, tell me right now and use evidence to back up your claim.
Well you cant really "prove" an opinion, but i have played both and MGS is leaps and bounds ahead of SMG in almost everything. Have you actually played both games or are you just saying SMG is better because you're one of the dillusional wii fanboys that thinksthe wiican actually compete with next gen consoles?Regardless of whether or not I've played either game, I'm stating that the critical consensus has put SMG ahead of MGS4. If you need further clarification, I refer you back to GameRankings. You're not alone, GameSpot and IGN would both agree with your opinion, but they don't make up the majority of reviewers. Avoid opinion in a battle of numbers.
it pretty funny that everyone is bashing the TC but no one has made a true list which goes by TC's rules.
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Yes 3 are virtually none. I posted 13. THIRTEEN upcoming Wii exclusives and the best anyone has come up with isTHREE 360 exclusives... 3?!
-Oath
Well, the 360s in a exclusive drought, Im pretty sure evry consoles been through this. In fact, I seem to remember a certain console that was in a pretty heavy 2 year drought.
That proves nothing other than the fact that the 360 has a past behind it and the Wii has a future ahead of it.Nuff said....The 360 currently has 108 AA and up rated games compared to the Wii's 34. Even if all of your 13 games get above an AA rating it would only be making a small dent in the large difference between the two consoles.
opex07
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[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]
Yes 3 are virtually none. I posted 13. THIRTEEN upcoming Wii exclusives and the best anyone has come up with isTHREE 360 exclusives... 3?!
TheNextOrder
Well, the 360s in a exclusive drought, Im pretty sure evry consoles been through this. In fact, I seem to remember a certain console that was in a pretty heavy 2 year drought.
That proves nothing other than the fact that the 360 has a past behind it and the Wii has a future ahead of it. yes, the wii is getting games. but they are not anywhere near the quality of the 360's. and here's the lemming's phrase: "Wait for E3"[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]
[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]Yes 3 are virtually none. I posted 13. THIRTEEN upcoming Wii exclusives and the best anyone has come up with isTHREE 360 exclusives... 3?!
TheNextOrder
Since the aformentioned list cannot be played on Wii due to the technological limitations of the Wii, they are exclusive. Unless you are hiding behind the PS3 or PC.
So your going to try to change Systemwars definition of what an exclusive is just because the 360 doesnt have even a remotely comparable upcoming list of exclusives as the Wii? :|I'm not changing any rules, I'm using your logic against you. The Wii is incapable of playing ANY of the 360 multiplats because it's too week of a system. Therefore the 360 multiplats when compared to the Wii would be exclusive because I can play any of the games on a 360 but not on a wii. If you are attempting ownage on this, then you would be hiding behind the PC or PS3, since those are the only other platforms you could play those games on...
It's pretty obvious that it is impossible(at the moment anyway), heck doing the same thing with the PC and PS3 would be a challenge.it pretty funny that everyone is bashing the TC but no one has made a true list which goes by TC's rules.
SilverChimera
The generally accepted standards that I've noticed on these boards is that GameSpot scores are used for assigning titles such as A, AA, AAA, etc, and that GameRankings is used for Best Ever titles when spanning great periods of time, which in this case, is the history of video games. For a true contender for high ranks, such as Super Mario Galaxy in this case, there are a huge amount of review scores factored into its final aggregate percentage. A 5/5 wouldn't make a big dent when there are 70+ total scores included.JAB991
Virtually none of those games are exclusive. Try again. This time with only exclusives.TheNextOrder
it pretty funny that everyone is bashing the TC but no one has made a true list which goes by TC's rules.
SilverChimera
I already showed the fallacy of TC;s rules. Technically any game the 360 could play that the Wii could not would be exclusive due to the fact the Wii is an inferior machine...
[QUOTE="TheNextOrder"]That proves nothing other than the fact that the 360 has a past behind it and the Wii has a future ahead of it. yes, the wii is getting games. but they are not anywhere near the quality of the 360's. and here's the lemming's phrase: "Wait for E3"Kinda like ... just wait? Please do us a favor and list all of these dazzling 360 exclusives that are so far above the quality of the Wii list I posted.[QUOTE="-Oath"]
Well, the 360s in a exclusive drought, Im pretty sure evry consoles been through this. In fact, I seem to remember a certain console that was in a pretty heavy 2 year drought.
SilverChimera
[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]
it pretty funny that everyone is bashing the TC but no one has made a true list which goes by TC's rules.
AlphaGamer469
I already showed the fallacy of TC;s rules. Technically any game the 360 could play that the Wii could not would be exclusive due to the fact the Wii is an inferior machine...
No you've only proven that your trying to change the definition of an exclusive because you don't have 13 quality upcoming 360 exclusives to list.[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]It's pretty obvious that it is impossible(at the moment anyway), heck doing the same thing with the PC and PS3 would be a challenge. i can do PS3: 1. Uncharted 2 2. God of War 3 3. Heavy Rain 4. Gran Turismo 5 5. Infamous 6. Fat Princess 7. Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 8. Demon's Souls 9. White Knight Chronicles 10. Cross Edge 11. Trinity Universe 12. LA Noire 13. Final Fantasy Versus XIII and i just listed the mainstream AA + titles.it pretty funny that everyone is bashing the TC but no one has made a true list which goes by TC's rules.
deangallop
[QUOTE="JAB991"]The generally accepted standards that I've noticed on these boards is that GameSpot scores are used for assigning titles such as A, AA, AAA, etc, and that GameRankings is used for Best Ever titles when spanning great periods of time, which in this case, is the history of video games. For a true contender for high ranks, such as Super Mario Galaxy in this case, there are a huge amount of review scores factored into its final aggregate percentage. A 5/5 wouldn't make a big dent when there are 70+ total scores included.
foxhound_fox
If it was truly a Best Game Ever contendor, it wouldn't get a 1/5 or a 2/5 or even a 3/5. For games with a lower quanity of reviews, a 4/5 could do some damage, but those aren't the games being dealt with.
[QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]It's pretty obvious that it is impossible(at the moment anyway), heck doing the same thing with the PC and PS3 would be a challenge. i can do PS3: 1. Uncharted 2 2. God of War 3 3. Heavy Rain 4. Gran Turismo 5 5. Infamous 6. Fat Princess 7. Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 8. Demon's Souls 9. White Knight Chronicles 10. Cross Edge 11. Trinity Universe 12. LA Noire 13. Final Fantasy Versus XIII and i just listed the mainstream AA + titles. L.A Noir is coming to 360. and I'm not sure if the TC lets you include arcade gamesit pretty funny that everyone is bashing the TC but no one has made a true list which goes by TC's rules.
SilverChimera
To be perfectly honest the 360's upcoming lineup is weak, but that list of Wii games is far from mindblowing.
It's funny how few of those game I would ever consider buying. Yeah, It's better then the 360's line-up, but that's not saying a whole lot. Try comparing it to the PS3's line-up, eh?NAPK1NSI would buy pretty much all of them. Opinions see. Everybody has one.
btw PS3's list is fairly impressive. But since its the popular opinion on SW that it's the Wii that has no games coming out for it, I don't see why it isn't perfectly reasonable to compare it to a well respected console around here like the 360 ;)
[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="deangallop"] It's pretty obvious that it is impossible(at the moment anyway), heck doing the same thing with the PC and PS3 would be a challenge. deangallopi can do PS3: 1. Uncharted 2 2. God of War 3 3. Heavy Rain 4. Gran Turismo 5 5. Infamous 6. Fat Princess 7. Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 8. Demon's Souls 9. White Knight Chronicles 10. Cross Edge 11. Trinity Universe 12. LA Noire 13. Final Fantasy Versus XIII and i just listed the mainstream AA + titles. L.A Noir is coming to 360. and I'm not sure if the TC lets you include arcade games Team Bondi said that it isn't, so let's wait, shall we? and fine, remove Fat Princess and put in Last Rebellion (RPG by NIS America)
EDIT: Go ahead, take out LA Noire and add MAG to the list.
[QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] i can do PS3: 1. Uncharted 2 2. God of War 3 3. Heavy Rain 4. Gran Turismo 5 5. Infamous 6. Fat Princess 7. Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 8. Demon's Souls 9. White Knight Chronicles 10. Cross Edge 11. Trinity Universe 12. LA Noire 13. Final Fantasy Versus XIII and i just listed the mainstream AA + titles.SilverChimeraL.A Noir is coming to 360. and I'm not sure if the TC lets you include arcade games Team Bondi said that it isn't, so let's wait, shall we? and fine, remove Fat Princess and put in Last Rebellion (RPG by NIS America) Dont forget MAG and Team Icos new project (though we dont have a name its safe to assume its going to be just asgoodas anything on the wii list)
If it was truly a Best Game Ever contendor, it wouldn't get a 1/5 or a 2/5 or even a 3/5. For games with a lower quanity of reviews, a 4/5 could do some damage, but those aren't the games being dealt with.JAB991
I would buy pretty much all of them. Opinions see. Everybody has one.TheNextOrder
Team Bondi said that it isn't, so let's wait, shall we? and fine, remove Fat Princess and put in Last Rebellion (RPG by NIS America) Dont forget MAG and Team Icos new project (though we dont have a name its safe to assume its going to be just asgoodas anything on the wii list)[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="deangallop"] L.A Noir is coming to 360. and I'm not sure if the TC lets you include arcade games brennan7777
It's just too bad the Wii is incapable of playing any of them...BTW TC doesn't say anything about arcade titles...
[QUOTE="JAB991"]If it was truly a Best Game Ever contendor, it wouldn't get a 1/5 or a 2/5 or even a 3/5. For games with a lower quanity of reviews, a 4/5 could do some damage, but those aren't the games being dealt with.foxhound_fox
I would buy pretty much all of them. Opinions see. Everybody has one.TheNextOrder
I might have to buy all of the Wii games on that list. Also the PS3 lineup is looking very good but unfortunately I do not have one:cry:
12 AA-AAA (potential) games coming for 360 that are not on Wii.
- Halo ODST
- Mass Effect 2
- MW2
-Bioshock 2
-Assasins Creed 2
-Alan Wake
- Bionic commando
-Dead Rising 2
- Lost Planet 2
-Splinter cell conviction
-Prototype
-Batman Arkham asylum
12 games comming to 360 that are not on Wii. ( plus it's a much more attractive list IMO)
Most of those are multiplats.. - It isn't that hard reading AND following the "rules" he has put up. I know it's lame. But since you've already bothered making a list why not just do it right the first time.[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"]
It's just too bad the Wii is incapable of playing any of them-Oath
The Wii doesnt need those titles, it has a great set of exclusives already. Personally Im hyping the Wiis lineup mor than the PS3s or 360s.
haha cuz you dont have a ps3 or xbox12 AA-AAA (potential) games coming for 360 that are not on Wii.
- Halo ODST
- Mass Effect 2
- MW2
-Bioshock 2
-Assasins Creed 2
-Alan Wake
- Bionic commando
-Dead Rising 2
- Lost Planet 2
-Splinter cell conviction
-Prototype
-Batman Arkham asylum
12 games comming to 360 that are not on Wii. ( plus it's a much more attractive list IMO)
Most of those are multiplats.. - It isn't that hard reading AND following the "rules" he has put up. I know it's lame. But since you've already bothered making a list why not just do it right the first time. Never said they were exclusive, said they were on 360 and not on wii.Please Log In to post.
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