Wii Has Shovelware Articles - It Has Begun,..

A few months ago, I posted that the Wii would be known for a wasteland of shovelware.Professional websites and game magazines will write articles on how BAD the crap is on the Wii.

This month's issue of Game Informer covers just how much crap is on the Wii. 69% of the games on the Wii score in the 60 and below percentile.

The 360 has 47%. The PS3 has 40%.

Close to 70% of the games on the Wii are shovelware. I don't care how GODLY you think SMG and Brawl is - this is bad. They also note, that Wiiware could spark innovative games,... or just more crap.

It looks like the Wii has become the McDonalds of gaming.

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

-GhostMLD-

The Wii hasn't been out as long as the PS2 - and it's already known for garbage.

From a business perspective, the Wii is making money, but - it's off of junk.

i still dont see how this affects most Wii owners, they usually buy the good games. its not like we are forced to buy them.

name 1 shovelware that sold well?

Wii has shovelware

No wai! The fastest selling and cheapest to develop for console has the most shovelware?

Good games don't matter because there are too many crap games.

... What? :?

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

Demetri_OS

The Wii hasn't been out as long as the PS2 - and it's already known for garbage.

From a business perspective, the Wii is making money, but - it's off of junk.

you can thank Playstation for this. towards the end of the ps2 lifecycle, shovelware started to increase once those companies realized they could make a quick buck. now since the Wii is the cheapest console to program for, they migrated to it.

Thanks Playstation :roll:

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

ogvampire

The Wii hasn't been out as long as the PS2 - and it's already known for garbage.

From a business perspective, the Wii is making money, but - it's off of junk.

you can thank Playstation for this. towards the end of the ps2 lifecycle, shovelware started to increase once those companies realized they could make a quick buck. now since the Wii is the cheapest console to program for, they migrated to it.

Thanks Playstation :roll:

And we can thank Nintendo for calling this NEW GEN.

:lol:

I'l l say what i said in the other thread:
I dont care because i dont buy those games, so it doesnt matter to me. Plus, those games dont sell well.
Haziqonfire

The point is this; The Wii is a wasteland of crappy games.

I said it would have this title, and it's just two to three more articles away from holding that crown.

Wii has shovelware

No wai! The fastest selling and cheapest to develop for console has the most shovelware?

Good games don't matter because there are too many crap games.

... What? :?

metroidfood

this

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'l l say what i said in the other thread:
I dont care because i dont buy those games, so it doesnt matter to me. Plus, those games dont sell well.
Demetri_OS

The point is this; The Wii is a wasteland of crappy games.

I said it would have this title, and it's just two to three more articles away from holding that crown.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

Demetri_OS

The Wii hasn't been out as long as the PS2 - and it's already known for garbage.

From a business perspective, the Wii is making money, but - it's off of junk.

you can thank Playstation for this. towards the end of the ps2 lifecycle, shovelware started to increase once those companies realized they could make a quick buck. now since the Wii is the cheapest console to program for, they migrated to it.

Thanks Playstation :roll:

And we can thank Nintendo for calling this NEW GEN.

:lol:

what are you talking about?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'l l say what i said in the other thread:
I dont care because i dont buy those games, so it doesnt matter to me. Plus, those games dont sell well.
Demetri_OS

The point is this; The Wii is a wasteland of crappy games.

I said it would have this title, and it's just two to three more articles away from holding that crown.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'l l say what i said in the other thread:
I dont care because i dont buy those games, so it doesnt matter to me. Plus, those games dont sell well.
Demetri_OS

The point is this; The Wii is a wasteland of crappy games.

I said it would have this title, and it's just two to three more articles away from holding that crown.

Wait, who's forcing you to buy these games?

It's bad to have a larger variety and amount of options?

Saying that a system has "too many bad games" doesn't mean anything, nor does putting it in percentile form. The PS2 was one of the greatest systems of all time, and it had plenty of shovelware toward the end of its life cycle. Point being, it's not the bad games that define the system.

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

-GhostMLD-

Not 70% though. :?

A few months ago, I posted that the Wii would be known for a wasteland of shovelware.Professional websites and game magazines will write articles on how BAD the crap is on the Wii.

This month's issue of Game Informer covers just how much crap is on the Wii. 69% of the games on the Wii score in the 60 and below percentile.

The 360 has 47%. The PS3 has 40%.

Close to 70% of the games on the Wii are shovelware. I don't care how GODLY you think SMG and Brawl is - this is bad. They also note, that Wiiware could spark innovative games,... or just more crap.

It looks like the Wii has become the McDonalds of gaming.

Demetri_OS

i like mcdonalds. just avoid the big macs and youre fine.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

ogvampire

The Wii hasn't been out as long as the PS2 - and it's already known for garbage.

From a business perspective, the Wii is making money, but - it's off of junk.

you can thank Playstation for this. towards the end of the ps2 lifecycle, shovelware started to increase once those companies realized they could make a quick buck. now since the Wii is the cheapest console to program for, they migrated to it.

Thanks Playstation :roll:

And we can thank Nintendo for calling this NEW GEN.

:lol:

what are you talking about?

Nintendo stated the Wii is New Gen, not Next Gen.

Demetri_OS

you can thank Playstation for this. towards the end of the ps2 lifecycle, shovelware started to increase once those companies realized they could make a quick buck. now since the Wii is the cheapest console to program for, they migrated to it.

Thanks Playstation :roll:

And we can thank Nintendo for calling this NEW GEN.

:lol:

what are you talking about?

Nintendo stated the Wii is New Gen, not Next Gen.

ok. so?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'l l say what i said in the other thread:
I dont care because i dont buy those games, so it doesnt matter to me. Plus, those games dont sell well.
Demetri_OS

The point is this; The Wii is a wasteland of crappy games.

I said it would have this title, and it's just two to three more articles away from holding that crown.

And? There is still a good amount of good Wii games.

Wait, who's forcing you to buy these games?

It's bad to have a larger variety and amount of options?

Saying that a system has "too many bad games" doesn't mean anything, nor does putting it in percentile form. The PS2 was one of the greatest systems of all time, and it had plenty of shovelware toward the end of its life cycle. Point being, it's not the bad games that define the system.

WAIW

Are you seriously going to say that 70% of games being shovelware is a good thing because you have more variety and optinos? Seriously? You're really going to go with that arguement?

Did the PS2 have shovelware? Heck yes. Was it 70% shovelware? Heck no. Did it have a massive library of quality games which easily made up for all the crap? Obviously. Can the same be said of the wii? Definately not.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Wait, who's forcing you to buy these games?

It's bad to have a larger variety and amount of options?

Saying that a system has "too many bad games" doesn't mean anything, nor does putting it in percentile form. The PS2 was one of the greatest systems of all time, and it had plenty of shovelware toward the end of its life cycle. Point being, it's not the bad games that define the system.

Ninja-Hippo

Are you seriously going to say that 70% of games being shovelware is a good thing because you have more variety and optinos? Seriously? You're really going to go with that arguement?

Did the PS2 have shovelware? Heck yes. Was it 70% shovelware? Heck no. Did it have a massive library of quality games which easily made up for all the crap? Obviously. Can the same be said of the wii? Definately not.

No, but does it hurt to be able to buy crappy games? That's what I was getting at ._.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

Wait, who's forcing you to buy these games?

It's bad to have a larger variety and amount of options?

Saying that a system has "too many bad games" doesn't mean anything, nor does putting it in percentile form. The PS2 was one of the greatest systems of all time, and it had plenty of shovelware toward the end of its life cycle. Point being, it's not the bad games that define the system.

Ninja-Hippo

Are you seriously going to say that 70% of games being shovelware is a good thing because you have more variety and optinos? Seriously? You're really going to go with that arguement?

Did the PS2 have shovelware? Heck yes. Was it 70% shovelware? Heck no. Did it have a massive library of quality games which easily made up for all the crap? Obviously. Can the same be said of the wii? Definately not.

thats opinion right there. this whole shovelware thing isnt affecting me because i never buy any. see how that works?

Ah - so, now, the Nintendo Fans are saying; "So?"Well, on the "The Wii is WINNING THE WAR!! It sold 1 million last month!" point - I say: SO?The Sales Point is no longer valid. Since you feel the GLUT of bad games do not make a system bad, then the sales success clearly does not make it a great or better system. You are not acknowledging the shovelware, therefore, we won't acknowledge the sales.Thanks!:)Demetri_OS

Ah - so, now, the Nintendo Fans are saying; "So?"Well, on the "The Wii is WINNING THE WAR!! It sold 1 million last month!" point - I say: SO?The Sales Point is no longer valid. Since you feel the GLUT of bad games do not make a system bad, then the sales success clearly does not make it a great or better system. You are not acknowledging the shovelware, therefore, we won't acknowledge the sales.Thanks!:)Demetri_OS

what are you talking about? please point out who said that on this thread :roll:

people are bringing up the point of sales to prove that shovelware DOES NOT sell. see how that works?

TC, you didn't really think this through, did you? Are Wii owners forced to go to GameStop and ask, "One copy of the latest crap please"TAKE_IT_BACK

Nope - but, don't tell me the Wii is a quality system, because it clearly isn't.

No, but does it hurt to be able to buy crappy games? That's what I was getting at ._.

WAIW

No, you were trying to twist a plethora of awful games into a good thing, as "variety and options".

Does anyone force you to buy these games? Obviously not. But the whole point here is that that titles make up the majority of the Wii's library, which is a very bad thing for any gamer.

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]TC, you didn't really think this through, did you? Are Wii owners forced to go to GameStop and ask, "One copy of the latest crap please"Demetri_OS

Nope - but, don't tell me the Wii is a quality system, because it clearly isn't.

going by your posts, i can see that you are a very educated and informed individual (sarcasm)

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]TC, you didn't really think this through, did you? Are Wii owners forced to go to GameStop and ask, "One copy of the latest crap please"ogvampire

Nope - but, don't tell me the Wii is a quality system, because it clearly isn't.

going by your posts, i can see that you are a very educated and informed individual (sarcasm)

So?

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

No, but does it hurt to be able to buy crappy games? That's what I was getting at ._.

Ninja-Hippo

No, you were trying to twist a plethora of awful games into a good thing, as "variety and options".

Does anyone force you to buy these games? Obviously not. But the whole point here is that that titles make up the majority of the Wii's library, which is a very bad thing for any gamer.

im pretty sure he was just saying that its better to have options than not. a shovelware game is NOT gonna take away a AA-AAA game from the Wii.

thats opinion right there. this whole shovelware thing isnt affecting me because i never buy any. see how that works?

ogvampire

See how that simply isn't an arguement? :? Of course you dont buy them; they're awful. Why even point that out? The whole issue here is that SEVENTY PERCENT of the Wii's lineup consists of these games. That's the majority of the library made up of awful games no gamer would want to spend money on. Can you not see the problem there? These titles should be the lame cash-ins on the bottom shelf of the game store, below the REAL games. They aren't though. This is the library you have to choose from. Where games actually worth spending money on are in the minority.

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]TC, you didn't really think this through, did you? Are Wii owners forced to go to GameStop and ask, "One copy of the latest crap please"Demetri_OS

Nope - but, don't tell me the Wii is a quality system, because it clearly isn't.

The wii is a quality system because as long as there are good games (and there clearly are, even if they're a lot of Nintendo titles), shovelware will not drown the system.

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

-GhostMLD-

it selling amazingly obviously disregards it's least amount of good games right?

im pretty sure he was just saying that its better to have options than not. a shovelware game is NOT gonna take away a AA-AAA game from the Wii.

ogvampire

Trying to twist large numbers of shovelware titles into a positive thing is simply the definition of fanboyism. It isn't a good thing. It never will be. Why not just accept that it's an issue? :?

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

Ninja-Hippo

Not 70% though. :?

I am sure its awfully close. The PS2 was geting SO MUCH crap in the last few years that a LOT of games never got reviewed by any major site. Games like this...

http://www.phoenixgamesgroup.com/uk/ps2a.html

...and that is one publisher. Notice how they are now infecting the Wii? Blame the PS2 and crappy devs, not the Wii.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]TC, you didn't really think this through, did you? Are Wii owners forced to go to GameStop and ask, "One copy of the latest crap please"TAKE_IT_BACK

Nope - but, don't tell me the Wii is a quality system, because it clearly isn't.

The wii is a quality system because as long as there are good games (and there clearly are, even if they're a lot of Nintendo titles), shovelware will not drown the system.

70% > 1/2 - thats a lot.

Don't down play it.

The wii is a quality system because as long as there are good games (and there clearly are, even if they're a lot of Nintendo titles), shovelware will not drown the system.

TAKE_IT_BACK

But shovelware clearly is drowning the system as we've just read; it makes up 70% of the library. Rather than a bunch of AAA games with a few stinkers, it's a library of stinkers with a few AAAs. Dont you see the problem with that?

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

im pretty sure he was just saying that its better to have options than not. a shovelware game is NOT gonna take away a AA-AAA game from the Wii.

Ninja-Hippo

Trying to twist large numbers of shovelware titles into a positive thing is simply the definition of fanboyism. It isn't a good thing. It never will be. Why not just accept that it's an issue? :?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

PS2 had a ton of shovelware.

Point is, who cares? Wii is still selling amazingly well.

travt-down

Not 70% though. :?

I am sure its awfully close. The PS2 was geting SO MUCH crap in the last few years that a LOT of games never got reviewed by any major site. Games like this...

http://www.phoenixgamesgroup.com/uk/ps2a.html

...and that is one publisher. Notice how they are now infecting the Wii? Blame the PS2 and crappy devs, not the Wii.

Who's blaming the wii? It's simply a fact that a lot of the games on it - the majority in fact - aren't worth buying. And that's a bad thing, and an awful shame. Simple.

Shovelware is a positive thing. The NES, SNES, PS1, and PS2 all had large amounts of shovelware, and by the end of their generations had more good games than the other consoles that generation. This is a fact.lolfiretruck

Shovelware is by no means a positive thing. All shovelware does is detract sales from games made by real developers which people should actually buy. See Sonic Olympics sales vs No More Heroes.

Shovelware doesn't sale.. stop, with the nonsense.

Nintendo had previously been highly ridiculed for having to high of standards. Now that their allowing free market, people still complain. You know it gets annoying after awhile.

[QUOTE="lolfiretruck"]Shovelware is a positive thing. The NES, SNES, PS1, and PS2 all had large amounts of shovelware, and by the end of their generations had more good games than the other consoles that generation. This is a fact.Ninja-Hippo

Shovelware is by no means a positive thing. All shovelware does is detract sales from games made by real developers which people should actually buy. See Sonic Olympics sales vs No More Heroes.

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

The wii is a quality system because as long as there are good games (and there clearly are, even if they're a lot of Nintendo titles), shovelware will not drown the system.

Ninja-Hippo

But shovelware clearly is drowning the system as we've just read; it makes up 70% of the library. Rather than a bunch of AAA games with a few stinkers, it's a library of stinkers with a few AAAs. Dont you see the problem with that?

How many games do you buy a year? for me, probably about 10-12 a year for my wii. Now don't start saying thats tiny, because thats about 1 a month. There are more than 12 good games per year that come out, so thats enough.