Wii HD/2 to come to counter Natal/Wand if they're successful? (long read)

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1042329p1.html

now here me out, as you're saying "Darth that link didn't even mention the Wii"

but i'm thinking the rumors of Wii 2 coming out in 2011 will be, well true. Its odd i know, that the generation leader in sales would cut their sales off by being first to launch. It'd be like Sony releasing the PS3 in 2004 during some good years where the PS2 still sold insanely well

But, devs, like THQ in the article, are excited about the generation extending potential of the Wand and Natal. They're happy those willl extend the gen longer than most would think, perhaps taking devs into a super profitable time period late in gen where costs have gone down to develop for PS3/360 in 2010-2013 where they don't have to focus on the PS4/Xbox 3 development coz Natal and Wand are trying to bring "New" gamers

those new gamers = People who bought Wii Fit. Those consumers currently don't seem to be buying 360s and PS3s. Now yes, a lot of consumers buy GTA, Halo, COD and those titles sell very well but not 20 million + like Wii Fit, Wii Fit a new IP none the less at a higher price than GTA/COD/Halo sell for. Its amazing that Wii Fit sells 20 million +, or nearly as much as the PS3 in its lifetime, with a $90 price. Not even Guitar Hero/RB can match that and they're established IPs with similar prices and on various platforms

and Nintendo has to defend these consumers. They do not want to lose the customers who gave them the lead this gen.

If your Nintendo, do you focus on making quality Wii games for core and casual, and just stick it out until 2012 or 2013 even if Natal/Wand sell well? Or do you launch a Wii 2/HD (whatever they call it) with 360/PS3 level hardware in 2011 when it would be very profitable, if done right could be a $150-$200 package at launch with motion plus built in to get multiplats from these devs like iD, Rockstar, IW that normally ignore the Wii (coz as Iwata himself says, Nintendo makes new hardware when devs say they can get nothing else from the hardware,.....) Additionally, if Wand/Natal catch on they're games could be easily ported to a Wii HD to at least let nintendo say they have that software too

Again, Wii HD in 2011 would potentially give Nintendo a nex gen headstart, even if the Wii HD was only PS3 level in hardware if given enough of a headstart (like launch in mid-2011) of 2-3 years when the more than likely more expensive to develope for PS4/Xbox 3 do come out after Natal/Wand have 2-3 years to test the market and extend the gen, they'd have lofty launch prices of $300 OR MORE while Wii HD could have a userbase of 20-50million if sales are good, and it would be cheaper. therefore all the devs grateful that natal/wand extended this gen and kept costs down would keep developing on Wii HD and might not jump on PS4/Xbox 3

Iwata even said they liked the PS3/PS2 strategy sony has been taking, saying maybe Nintendo could try that. Huh? Sell the new gen console for a higher price while still selling the last gen console as third parties carry it with the casaul friendly games like Madden, Lego series , every year? Sound familar?

I think its possible and nintendo has been talking about HD a lot lately. and as i said, Iwata will replace hardware when devs can get no more out of the hardware, and some devs may get no more out of the Wii hardware if the other motion controllers catch on. With Wand projected Spring 2010 and Natal fall 2010, i'd say Nintendo will wait to see how the Wand sells, as the Wand is really the closest competitor to the Wii controller. it offers the most Wii-esque gaming, with the potential for casual titles and if it gets popular in japan where Iwata recently said the PS3 and Wii are "neck and neck" in sales, perhaps they'll let sony test the Wand for 6-10 months while designing the Wii HD, and then see if the sales/reception warrants a new console to counteract the success of the Wand (if its successful)

Thoughts, i know long read. Wii HD to counter the other motion controllers? Your thoughts?

I highly doubt its going to be the "Wii 2" but more along the lines of the Wii-i. They'll make billions off the DSi, why not transfer that money-making scheme over to their console? It'll cost less than brand new hardware and make way more profit.

Do you ever talk or even think about ANYTHING else? Are you related to Michael Pachter? ARE YOU MICHAEL PACHTER? Because if you are, a few people here would like to have a word with you.

I really think they need to do something big to compete with these to be honest Because wiimotion plus really didn't change anything, and sales have dropped almost half of what they were last year. I never thought natal or sonys wands would be a threat till I heard that but if they are loosing steam now, they are going to loose ALOT more when those things release because I think if anyone who hasn't jumped into the motion control market yet I cant imagine kids or ect. wanting a wii over natal

the Japenese word for 2 is "ni". We should all pray that whatever Nintendo does. It is not a wiini.tylergamereview

LMAO... i never thought about that... that would be the funniest thing ever

No, I do not agree with this thread. I think the Wii HD rumor is untrue, and I think if this rumor was real, it would be a joke if it came out so soon.

The WiiWii or whatever that does finally come out will be it's own thing, and it may be a Wii HD, but it will hit when that time is right.

I think 2011 is when it will come out. Yes it probably won't be called Wii HD or 2, that ain't their game, but they won't abandon the brand name this time, and yes a Wii-i type situation is very likely

Lord, what was the point in posting what you posted? I'm sorry you don't read my many other thread posts and whatnot, but being as a new Nintendo console is roughly two years away in all likelihood, i feel like speculating while playing some awesome games right now (currently finishing up De Blob)

Honestly, as silly as it sounds, i think this new Wii will come out in 2011 not just for the potential threat of other motion controllers (thanks to posters who have added nice stuff to this discussion) or Iwata's comments on Wii/PS3 competition lately but also for the fact that, nintendo replaces their home console every 5 years somehow

NES 1986, SNES 1991, N64 1996, GCN 2001, Wii 2006. i know its silly but i see all these factors combining to force their 5 year replacement again, but this time selling the Wii along side the new one for a lower price ala PS2/PS3 as Iwata has said he likes that idea

You make some very good points, and I would not put this past Nintendo. They are not a stupid company, and their President has already acknoledged that the Wii has lost a lot of steam going forward. A really powerful console being released in 2011 would make a lot of sense, especially when they are riding the wave of success that the Wii has. Bare in mind, that Nintendo has a crap load of money in it's coffers. They can afford to take this calculated risk, especially if they offer backwards compatibility. pdagamer

Yup, additionally their R&D costs went up to like half a billion nearly in the past few years....

Will the next Nintendo console do HD? Probably.

But its underlying theme will still be able disruption to the industry, it will be much more then just a HD-Wii.