Wii Is Beating 360 In Sales! Oh wait, the 360 is destroying the Wii In Software

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#1 th2
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Sorry but the wii might be selling consoles but what is the point if nobody is buying games?

Thats why the Wii will fail.

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#2 Eponique
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I thought you lemmings said sales didn't matter.

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#3 Bread_or_Decide
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A lot of preconceptions are being destroyed this gen.

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#4 TalesofRaGnArOk
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C'mon, dont make us bring up the Red Rings of Death. Nobody wants that to happen do they?

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#5 luigigreen
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Oh wait, that's opinion. Besides, sales lead to software, most of which can be good. If you actually saw attachement rates for Wii games, you'd see more causal stuff selling less, and games like RE4, TP, and MP3 selling more. Of course the best sellers are Wii sports and Wii play but that's because Wii Sports is a pack-in and Wii play comes with a controller for like 50 bucks.
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#6 Eponique
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And how people are quick to dismiss the land of the rising sun. Or Europe, where the Wii is beating the 360.
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#7 m_machine024
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Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

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#8 NECR0CHILD313
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Nobody is buying games? What you say?
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#9 DireToad
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Besides, sales lead to software, most of which can be good.luigigreen



Yeah... Ummm... Hmmm.
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#10 Sumotaii
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I live in America and i own a Wii and 360 for this gen so far. I'm older so i honestly will say i don't play games too much anymore, just alot more going on. I have nothing against PS3 either as owning the last two playstations also. Anyways i went to sell 4 Wii games last week to trade in at a local shop cause i don't like gamestop personally anymore and i was getting like dirt for 4 games. Guy even told me since i know him for a while now that the system over in say Japan is still selling well game wise but here least locally the system is still hot but alot of people or college kids are getting it just for Wii Sports for the fun or drunk parties. I live in NYC and i actually did see a Wii at best buy friday night but other then the one i own that was the first i have seen ever haha. But yeah i play a few Wii games, mostly the Wii sports when family is over cause i knew going in Wii would be party system and whatnot, but yes here at least no games are selling much period just systems, where as 360 and PS3 sales on games are going strong. Personally i feel the PC market is on the rise again also esp. with its list of games hitting this fall. Anyone else least see this, or how bout if someone outside of America how is games selling for Wii.
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#11 Riviera_Phantom
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Imo..

m_machine024

*looks at your sig..

I stopped reading there.

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#12 goodlay
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But sales don't matter according to cows or lemmings, so this thread is massive self ownage.
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#13 Xerlaoth
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360's been out a year longer. dumb.

By the way I have more games for my Wii than my 360. as to why...

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#14 Ontain
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Sorry but the wii might be selling consoles but what is the point if nobody is buying games?

Thats why the Wii will fail.

th2

nobody? do you have a lack of long term memory? the wii is 3rd this week in the US. and it was 1st 2 weeks ago. Seems this is more based on game releases than anything else. also keep in mind that the 360 has more users in the US than the wii. worldwide the wii sells more consoles and hardware. (because 360 in japan is dead)

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#15 Zhengi
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The 360 is only leading in software sales because of the extra year. If you count only the first half of this year's software sales, you get this:

01. NDS Pokemon Diamond Version
02. Wii Play w/ Remote
03. NDS Pokemon Pearl Version
04. PS2 God of War II
05. PS2 Guitar Hero 2 w/ Guitar
06. 360 Guitar Hero 2 w/ Guitar
07. Wii Mario Party 8
08. 360 Crackdown
09. NDS Diddy Kong Racing
10. Wii Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess

Only two 360 games in the top 10 in sales from Jan 2007 to June 2007. That's not really outselling the Wii in software. Man, these MS fanboys are funny. They get one good month of sales and suddenly they think it translates to their system having incredible software sales throughout the year. At least keep up with the NPD numbers or else don't talk about sales at all.

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#16 dobbywii
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Enjoy that while you can, the xbox360 was also on top on hardware sales before and we all know what happened.:lol: 
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#17 Spartan070
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The odd thing is that nearly every single post so far has been just changing the subject. The TC is right and software sales generate higher revenue and profit percentage anyway.

Oh well, I guess people would rather just change the subject...

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#18 Spartan070
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The 360 is only leading in software sales because of the extra year. If you count only the first half of this year's software sales, you get this:

01. NDS Pokemon Diamond Version
02. Wii Play w/ Remote
03. NDS Pokemon Pearl Version
04. PS2 God of War II
05. PS2 Guitar Hero 2 w/ Guitar
06. 360 Guitar Hero 2 w/ Guitar
07. Wii Mario Party 8
08. 360 Crackdown
09. NDS Diddy Kong Racing
10. Wii Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess

Only two 360 games in the top 10 in sales from Jan 2007 to June 2007. That's not really outselling the Wii in software. Man, these MS fanboys are funny. They get one good month of sales and suddenly they think it translates to their system having incredible software sales throughout the year. At least keep up with the NPD numbers or else don't talk about sales at all.

Zhengi
Total game sales, not who has what in the top ten. Good try though...
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#19 Soulja_West
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Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

m_machine024

9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

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#20 iunderstand
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360's been out a year longer. dumb.Xerlaoth

I don't think the TC created this topic with any forethought involved.

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#21 Xerlaoth
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The odd thing is that nearly every single post so far has been just changing the subject. The TC is right and software sales generate higher revenue and profit percentage anyway.

Oh well, I guess people would rather just change the subject...

Spartan070

Ok, yes so far there are more good 360 games, but the system had a year head start. You can't expect 2 years worth of good games from a year old system. just bad logic.

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#22 Eponique
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Now what where you saying?

Soulja_West

The Wii has better games IMO.

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#23 jg4xchamp
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good games sell on the wii. Zelda TP sold a ton. So did Superpaper Mario. So did Warioware(its a good gamee), So is Metroid Prime 3.

The real problem is that it doesnt have as many good games, not that they dont sell.
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#24 luigigreen
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"]Besides, sales lead to software, most of which can be good.DireToad



Yeah... Ummm... Hmmm.

That's perfectly reasonable. Yes, I know a lot of the stuff has been crap, but once the Wii starts getting even more third party support, their CAN be better games. I never said that there would be.
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#25 Ontain
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The odd thing is that nearly every single post so far has been just changing the subject. The TC is right and software sales generate higher revenue and profit percentage anyway.

Oh well, I guess people would rather just change the subject...

Spartan070

the TC said no one is buying wii software. please show me how my post about the wii being 3rd in software sales this week and 1st just 2 weeks ago as well as outselling the 360 in software worldwide for months is a change of subject.

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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]Now what where you saying?

Eponique

The Wii has better games IMO.

Oh okay. I got cha.

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#27 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

The 360 is only leading in software sales because of the extra year. If you count only the first half of this year's software sales, you get this:

01. NDS Pokemon Diamond Version
02. Wii Play w/ Remote
03. NDS Pokemon Pearl Version
04. PS2 God of War II
05. PS2 Guitar Hero 2 w/ Guitar
06. 360 Guitar Hero 2 w/ Guitar
07. Wii Mario Party 8
08. 360 Crackdown
09. NDS Diddy Kong Racing
10. Wii Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess

Only two 360 games in the top 10 in sales from Jan 2007 to June 2007. That's not really outselling the Wii in software. Man, these MS fanboys are funny. They get one good month of sales and suddenly they think it translates to their system having incredible software sales throughout the year. At least keep up with the NPD numbers or else don't talk about sales at all.

Spartan070

Total game sales, not who has what in the top ten. Good try though...

When are you counting the total game sales? Since the launch of the 360? Since the start of this year? Or are you really falling for MS spin and going by last November? Because if you are going by MS' spin, that's pretty sad numbers considering that most software sales come during the holiday season and MS had to combine those against two consoles that launched at the end of November in order to inflate the numbers into looking impressive. If they're relying on such data manipulation, then software really must not be selling well as everyone thinks.

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#28 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

The odd thing is that nearly every single post so far has been just changing the subject. The TC is right and software sales generate higher revenue and profit percentage anyway.

Oh well, I guess people would rather just change the subject...

Ontain

the TC said no one is buying wii software. please show me how my post about the wii being 3rd in software sales this week and 1st just 2 weeks ago as well as outselling the 360 in software worldwide for months is a change of subject.

It's not, they're just really scrambling right now because their arguments are weak when facts are presented to them.

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#29 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo..

Riviera_Phantom

*looks at your sig..

I stopped reading there.

You think I'm a fanboy or what? I just prefer Wii games. I don't hate other systems.
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#30 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

Soulja_West

9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

I'm saying that doesn't change my point of view.

Xbox360 could win that SW AAA game thing. I don't care at all.

I'm getting one soon btw.

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#31 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

The odd thing is that nearly every single post so far has been just changing the subject. The TC is right and software sales generate higher revenue and profit percentage anyway.

Oh well, I guess people would rather just change the subject...

Ontain

the TC said no one is buying wii software. please show me how my post about the wii being 3rd in software sales this week and 1st just 2 weeks ago as well as outselling the 360 in software worldwide for months is a change of subject.

I said nearly every post...
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#32 REVOLUTIONfreak
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No software? Let me clarify:

1. Wii has had probably at least two pieces of software in the top ten list of the NPD (or more, as seen last month) since it's release. Poor software sales? I think not.

2.The 360 has had a year's headstart, which also means a year's headstart in software.

3.It's still outselling the 360, and since the Wii came out a year later than the 360, that's a pretty amazing feat.

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#34 HelixTurnHelix
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Sorry but the wii might be selling consoles but what is the point if nobody is buying games?

Thats why the Wii will fail.

th2

I bought Wii games for the Wii, therefore your logic is void.

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#35 Spartan070
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If they're relying on such data manipulation, then software really must not be selling well as everyone thinks.

Zhengi

Data Manipulation? You showed me a top ten list from earlier this year. Showing the top ten only and using old charts = data manipulation.

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#36 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

m_machine024

9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

I'm saying that doesn't change my point of view.

Xbox360 could win that SW AAA game thing. I don't care at all.

I'm getting one soon btw.

This may be the worse stereotype ever, but I wouldn't expect a Common fan to be a Nintendo fan.

That just doesn't seem...RIGHT to me.

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#37 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo..

Riviera_Phantom

*looks at your sig..

I stopped reading there.

the same could be applied to you. People could assume you're a sheep because you have a ds game as your sig. Thats why we read instead of taking things at face value.

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#38 SuperMario_46
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

Soulja_West

9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

You do know that people have different taste, half of those are what? you bet Shooters, and more shooters.

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#39 Number_1_Gamer
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Sorry but the wii might be selling consoles but what is the point if nobody is buying games?

Thats why the Wii will fail.

th2

The Wii has an excellent attach rate for a system only 10 months old. It's over 4 games per console. How much 360 software was sold in that system's first 10 months? A LOT less than the Wii has sold.

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I could care less for the sales, i'm having fun playing great games, that's all it matters to me.
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4,810,328
7,146,795

Hmm I wonder why.

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There has been approximately 45 million pieces of Wii software sold in 10 months.

How many pieces of 360 software were sold in it's first ten months? This isn't a rhetorical question, I actually want to know. vgcharts.com used to have all sorts of awesome comparison tools, but for some reason they've gotten rid of all of them.

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#43 goodlay
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

Soulja_West

9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

Try re-reading his post, he said in his opinion

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#44 Eponique
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

TBoogy

9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

I'm saying that doesn't change my point of view.

Xbox360 could win that SW AAA game thing. I don't care at all.

I'm getting one soon btw.

This may be the worse stereotype ever, but I wouldn't expect a Common fan to be a Nintendo fan.

That just doesn't seem...RIGHT to me.

Stereotype? It isn't a stereotype, it's an opinion.

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#45 m_machine024
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[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="m_machine024"]

Imo Wii has better games. What are you gonna do about it?

TBoogy

9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

I'm saying that doesn't change my point of view.

Xbox360 could win that SW AAA game thing. I don't care at all.

I'm getting one soon btw.

This may be the worse stereotype ever, but I wouldn't expect a Common fan to be a Nintendo fan.

That just doesn't seem...RIGHT to me.

lol I like great music and I like great games. What more can I say?:P
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There has been approximately 45 million pieces of Wii software sold in 10 months.

How many pieces of 360 software were sold in it's first ten months? This isn't a rhetorical question, I actually want to know. vgcharts.com used to have all sorts of awesome comparison tools, but for some reason they've gotten rid of all of them.

Number_1_Gamer

Well even if you divided the 360's software sales by Half (which is probably more than it actually sold in that year giving the low hardware sales up until the holiday last year) it's still a decent chunk less than the Wii. The fact that the Wii has sold a little over2/3s of the games the 360 has in half the time is depressing anyway you cut it.

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9.0, 9.2,9.5, 9.5, and 9.6, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.1

Now what where you saying?

Soulja_West

:lol:

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#48 Hitamaru-homia
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I thought you lemmings said sales didn't matter.

Eponique