Wii "no games" bash soon to end

The attack that Nintendo's console has no games will most likely end by the end of the year. Now that the promotion phase is well underway, Nintendo can focus its might on a lineup of first party games that will release about a month apart, and for each there is cause to have considerable faith in them. Here is the rundown:

July - Super Mario Strikers Charged (30th)
August - Metroid Prime 3 (27th)
October - Battalion Wars II
Zelda (DS, but worth mentioning) (1st)
November - Fire Emblem (5th)
Super Mario Galaxy (12th)
December - Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Third Party Honorable Mentions: Madden '08, RE: Umbrella Chronicles, Soul Calibur Legends

When you think about it, this is indeed a formidable list. Although each of these are not guaranteed hits, there is certainly great reason to be excited:

Super Mario Strikers - Already a big hit in Europe and Australia, this game apparently improves on all the faults of its predecessor, as well as offering online multiplayer. There's a good chance this game will be for soccer what Mario Kart is for racing.

Metroid Prime - If you're not excited about this, read IGN's preview, and you should be ready to wet yourself. With immersive and comfortable controls, this game is shaping up to be a pretty competitive shooter and platformer. Given the quality of the first two console Prime entries, I think Wii owners can expect a real treat from Retro.

Battalion Wars II - What system is better suited for a warfare strategy game of this kind? It's starting look really cool, and hopefully will live up to its portable predecessors.

Zelda (DS) - Everyone is talking about how great this one works on the DS. And since just about every Wii owner owns a DS, this is worth mentioning.

Fire Emblem - looks good for about the same reasons Battalion Wars II does.

Super Mario Galaxy - The demos make this game looks like the heir apparent to Super Mario 64, and there is good reason to believe it will live up to that challenge.

Super Smash Brother's Brawl - 'nuff said

January/February/March - Mario Kart Wii :D

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Bread_or_Decide

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Same could be said about all the people raving about the "revolutionary" games Halo 3 or Killzone 2. Other than being much prettier, they probably won't offer much more than their forebearers. But will that make them any less great? A formula doesn't have to be new to work well.

Furthermore, regardless of what anti-Wii drones say, the new controls really add something to game, when executed right. Look at RE4 and Madden 07.

The attack that Nintendo's console has no games will most likely end by the end of the year. Now that the promotion phase is well underway, Nintendo can focus its might on a lineup of first party games that will release about a month apart, and for each there is cause to have considerable faith in them. Here is the rundown:

July - Super Mario Strikers Charged (30th)
August - Metroid Prime 3 (27th)
October - Battalion Wars II
Zelda (DS, but worth mentioning) (1st)
November - Fire Emblem (5th)
Super Mario Galaxy (12th)
December - Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Third Party Honorable Mentions: Madden '08, RE: Umbrella Chronicles, Soul Calibur Legends

When you think about it, this is indeed a formidable list. Although each of these are not guaranteed hits, there is certainly great reason to be excited:

Super Mario Strikers - Already a big hit in Europe and Australia, this game apparently improves on all the faults of its predecessor, as well as offering online multiplayer. There's a good chance this game will be for soccer what Mario Kart is for racing.

Metroid Prime - If you're not excited about this, read IGN's preview, and you should be ready to wet yourself. With immersive and comfortable controls, this game is shaping up to be a pretty competitive shooter and platformer. Given the quality of the first two console Prime entries, I think Wii owners can expect a real treat from Retro.

Battalion Wars II - What system is better suited for a warfare strategy game of this kind? It's starting look really cool, and hopefully will live up to its portable predecessors.

Zelda (DS) - Everyone is talking about how great this one works on the DS. And since just about every Wii owner owns a DS, this is worth mentioning.

Fire Emblem - looks good for about the same reasons Battalion Wars II does.

Super Mario Galaxy - The demos make this game looks like the heir apparent to Super Mario 64, and there is good reason to believe it will live up to that challenge.

Super Smash Brother's Brawl - 'nuff said

gecko_hawaii13

The problem is all those games are sequels of Gamecube games. Expect another drought before the sequel to those games come out... if ever on the Wii.

Sweet, but you forgot some third party titles: Dragon ball z BT 3, Fifa 08, De blob, Zack & Wiki& Tony Hawk's proving groundsSuperMario_46

mna, you must be desperate if your willin to put dbz as a hyped game!

Only one worth mentioning is Mario Galaxy, Super Smash, and Metriod....everything else is crap.

After that what 3rd party support do they have......oh that's right there isn't really any. Compare the lineup of PS3/X360 to Wii's.....how can you say the "Wii has no games" bash will go away? You think 3 games in 5 months is enough?

Next year they have Mario Kart......that's IT! Face it, without REAL 3rd party support the Wii is going to have the exact problem the GameCube had......yes it had killer 1st party titles every so often but overall it had NO GAMES compared to the other consoles.

Will 3rd party deliver REAL games......I personally don't think so but maybe I'll be proven wrong next year. One thing for sure this year there is NO SUPPORT.......unless you like crap, which could be true judging from what has been selling on the Wii lately :)

Only one worth mentioning is Mario Galaxy, Super Smash, and Metriod....everything else is crap.

After that what 3rd party support do they have......oh that's right there isn't really any. Compare the lineup of PS3/X360 to Wii's.....how can you say the "Wii has no games" bash will go away? You think 3 games in 5 months is enough?

Next year they have Mario Kart......that's IT! Face it, without REAL 3rd party support the Wii is going to have the exact problem the GameCube had......yes it had killer 1st party titles every so often but overall it had NO GAMES compared to the other consoles.

Will 3rd party deliver REAL games......I personally don't think so but maybe I'll be proven wrong next year. One thing for sure this year there is NO SUPPORT.......unless you like crap, which could be true judging from what has been selling on the Wii lately :)

darthogre

...You fail when you judge what is a good game or not, you just disapproved BWii andFire Emblem.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Eponique

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Not when they are made by good developers. New IP's made be "iffy" but at least they are something new. Don't you ever want to play NEW games? And when a new IP does well then its even more exciting than an existing franchise.

Same could be said about all the people raving about the "revolutionary" games Halo 3 or Killzone 2. Other than being much prettier, they probably won't offer much more than their forebearers. But will that make them any less great? A formula doesn't have to be new to work well.

Furthermore, regardless of what anti-Wii drones say, the new controls really add something to game, when executed right. Look at RE4 and Madden 07.

gecko_hawaii13

The problem is the GC formula didn't quite work out, did it?

When you look at notable GC games you get one of these each and they never resurfaced on the system again.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Bread_or_Decide

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Not when they are made by good developers. New IP's made be "iffy" but at least they are something new. Don't you ever want to play NEW games? And when a new IP does well then its even more exciting than an existing franchise.

At least old IPs that were awesome tell us that the next game have a better chance of being good, unlike new IPs. Which is more of a gamble.

Only one worth mentioning is Mario Galaxy, Super Smash, and Metriod....everything else is crap.

After that what 3rd party support do they have......oh that's right there isn't really any. Compare the lineup of PS3/X360 to Wii's.....how can you say the "Wii has no games" bash will go away? You think 3 games in 5 months is enough?

Next year they have Mario Kart......that's IT! Face it, without REAL 3rd party support the Wii is going to have the exact problem the GameCube had......yes it had killer 1st party titles every so often but overall it had NO GAMES compared to the other consoles.

Will 3rd party deliver REAL games......I personally don't think so but maybe I'll be proven wrong next year. One thing for sure this year there is NO SUPPORT.......unless you like crap, which could be true judging from what has been selling on the Wii lately :)

darthogre

If you don't think Wii will have third party support, then you fail to see why PS2 was such a third party success. Now that the Wii is selling like crazy, there are probably gobs of great third party games in the works that just haven't reached the public ear yet.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Eponique

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Of course! It's way better that every single game is a old IP from the eightes. What was he thinking?!

The problem is the GC formula didn't quite work out, did it?

When you look at notable GC games you get one of these each and they never resurfaced on the system again.

nnavidson

Yeah, it's easy to call games bad when you obviously haven't played them. Metroid was one of the best games of the last gen, regardless of how many people played it. Just because the GC didn't market well, it doesn't mean the games were crap, as owners of the console well know.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Eponique

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Not when they are made by good developers. New IP's made be "iffy" but at least they are something new. Don't you ever want to play NEW games? And when a new IP does well then its even more exciting than an existing franchise.

At least old IPs that were awesome tell us that the next game have a better chance of being good, unlike new IPs. Which is more of a gamble.

So by your reasoning we should never play anything new because theirs a chance it could suck?

Do you know why the gamecube failed despite having all these games? Because they AREN'T ENOUGH, when are nintendo fans going to understand that?

Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.KirbyFan10101

You don't deserve the name "Kirby" in your name :evil: Isn't a Soul Calibur adventure game refreshing enough?

Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.KirbyFan10101

Old games with new names aren't genuine. What does Sony offer that we haven't seen before, except for the fact that they are much prettier?

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.Eponique

You don't deserve the name "Kirby" in your name :evil: Isn't a Soul Calibur adventure game refreshing enough?

Not really? I was hyped for Manhunt 2 but we all know how that went.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Bread_or_Decide

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Not when they are made by good developers. New IP's made be "iffy" but at least they are something new. Don't you ever want to play NEW games? And when a new IP does well then its even more exciting than an existing franchise.

At least old IPs that were awesome tell us that the next game have a better chance of being good, unlike new IPs. Which is more of a gamble.

So by your reasoning we should never play anything new because theirs a chance it could suck?

Do you know why the gamecube failed despite having all these games? Because they AREN'T ENOUGH, when are nintendo fans going to understand that?

When it comes to the Gamecube - I'd try to differ with sales, but seeming you're the type of person that likes to stereotype...

If you think the Wii is gonna get Gamecube'd. You're very wrong. The amount of third party support is already great- with Zack & Wiki, Soul Calibur legends, No More Heroes, Endless Ocean, Dewy's Adventure etc.

The Wii will be very different from the Gamecube.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

azad_champ

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Of course! It's way better that every single game is a old IP from the eightes. What was he thinking?!

Man. Why go watch new movies, they could suck. If I watch Casablanca over and over again at least I know I'll be watching a great movie every time.

Heck...why eat new food? Escargot? No way...I know french fries and burgers will always be good. No need to eat anything new, ever.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.KirbyFan10101

You don't deserve the name "Kirby" in your name :evil: Isn't a Soul Calibur adventure game refreshing enough?

Not really? I was hyped for Manhunt 2 but we all know how that went.

It'll still come out, earlier than you think as well, Wii games are very easy to develop.

[QUOTE="SuperMario_46"]Sweet, but you forgot some third party titles: Dragon ball z BT 3, Fifa 08, De blob, Zack & Wiki& Tony Hawk's proving groundsdaytona_178

mna, you must be desperate if your willin to put dbz as a hyped game!

DBZ BT2 was a god game for the Wii.

When it comes to the Gamecube - I'd try to differ with sales, but seeming you're the type of person that likes to stereotype...

If you think the Wii is gonna get Gamecube'd. You're very wrong. The amount of third party support is already great- with Zack & Wiki, Soul Calibur legends, No More Heroes, Endless Ocean, Dewy's Adventure etc.

The Wii will be very different from the Gamecube.

Eponique

You say that but the fall line up says different.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

azad_champ

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

Of course! It's way better that every single game is a old IP from the eightes. What was he thinking?!

Most = All now? Your reading comprehensions on 2 sentenced post are incredible.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

When it comes to the Gamecube - I'd try to differ with sales, but seeming you're the type of person that likes to stereotype...

If you think the Wii is gonna get Gamecube'd. You're very wrong. The amount of third party support is already great- with Zack & Wiki, Soul Calibur legends, No More Heroes, Endless Ocean, Dewy's Adventure etc.

The Wii will be very different from the Gamecube.

Bread_or_Decide

You say that but the fall line up says different.

What about the Winter's?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

When it comes to the Gamecube - I'd try to differ with sales, but seeming you're the type of person that likes to stereotype...

If you think the Wii is gonna get Gamecube'd. You're very wrong. The amount of third party support is already great- with Zack & Wiki, Soul Calibur legends, No More Heroes, Endless Ocean, Dewy's Adventure etc.

The Wii will be very different from the Gamecube.

Eponique

You say that but the fall line up says different.

What about the Winter's?

So you're saying I should wait?

To be honest after the N64 and Gamecube I see no reason to give Nintendo any more chances. They blew it twice, no reason to think they aren't going to blow it again and all signs point to them doing exactly just that with garbage like Wiifit and the usual gamecube sequels.

Only one worth mentioning is Mario Galaxy, Super Smash, and Metriod....everything else is crap.

After that what 3rd party support do they have......oh that's right there isn't really any. Compare the lineup of PS3/X360 to Wii's.....how can you say the "Wii has no games" bash will go away? You think 3 games in 5 months is enough?

Next year they have Mario Kart......that's IT! Face it, without REAL 3rd party support the Wii is going to have the exact problem the GameCube had......yes it had killer 1st party titles every so often but overall it had NO GAMES compared to the other consoles.

Will 3rd party deliver REAL games......I personally don't think so but maybe I'll be proven wrong next year. One thing for sure this year there is NO SUPPORT.......unless you like crap, which could be true judging from what has been selling on the Wii lately

He makes a point sorry to say i was really exicted about the wii and thought great games would be coming to it, but its like Gamecube 2 at this point to me.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

When it comes to the Gamecube - I'd try to differ with sales, but seeming you're the type of person that likes to stereotype...

If you think the Wii is gonna get Gamecube'd. You're very wrong. The amount of third party support is already great- with Zack & Wiki, Soul Calibur legends, No More Heroes, Endless Ocean, Dewy's Adventure etc.

The Wii will be very different from the Gamecube.

Bread_or_Decide

You say that but the fall line up says different.

What about the Winter's?

So you're saying I should wait?

To be honest after the N64 and Gamecube I see no reason to give Nintendo any more chances. They blew it twice, no reason to think they aren't going to blow it again and all signs point to them doing exactly just that with garbage like Wiifit and the usual gamecube sequels.

Wait 3 more months?!!?!?!?!? END OF THE WORLD!!!

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

When it comes to the Gamecube - I'd try to differ with sales, but seeming you're the type of person that likes to stereotype...

If you think the Wii is gonna get Gamecube'd. You're very wrong. The amount of third party support is already great- with Zack & Wiki, Soul Calibur legends, No More Heroes, Endless Ocean, Dewy's Adventure etc.

The Wii will be very different from the Gamecube.

Eponique

You say that but the fall line up says different.

What about the Winter's?

So you're saying I should wait?

To be honest after the N64 and Gamecube I see no reason to give Nintendo any more chances. They blew it twice, no reason to think they aren't going to blow it again and all signs point to them doing exactly just that with garbage like Wiifit and the usual gamecube sequels.

Wait 3 more months?!!?!?!?!? END OF THE WORLD!!!

In two months Sony is releasing more new IP's then Wii has released in its first year. Xbox will continue to add to its line up of awesome games. Why should I wait for the Wii? Wait for what? More Mario Party's and Wii shovelware?

It doesn't matter if Wii does get 3rd party support. If the 3rd party devs doesn't try to make games for the core users and instead keeps focusing on the casuals like Nintendo does, it doesn't really matter whether they get 3rd party support or not. And most likely the games they'll be making will be casuals based on comments that Wii games are much cheaper and faster to make than other consoles. Most likely scenario, it's cheaper and faster because the games they make for Wii aren't core titles that have a long storyline, they're the same casual minigames.manningbowl135

Have you considered that perhaps its the fact that the Wii is less graphically capable than the other two systems that makes it so cheap? It costs a LOT of money to create and animate all of the fancy things you see in movies and games these days. But if you don't have to spend as much time on small graphical detail as you would with a graphics giant, you can cut a lot of costs WITHOUT cutting game quality.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

Only one worth mentioning is Mario Galaxy, Super Smash, and Metriod....everything else is crap.

After that what 3rd party support do they have......oh that's right there isn't really any. Compare the lineup of PS3/X360 to Wii's.....how can you say the "Wii has no games" bash will go away? You think 3 games in 5 months is enough?

Next year they have Mario Kart......that's IT! Face it, without REAL 3rd party support the Wii is going to have the exact problem the GameCube had......yes it had killer 1st party titles every so often but overall it had NO GAMES compared to the other consoles.

Will 3rd party deliver REAL games......I personally don't think so but maybe I'll be proven wrong next year. One thing for sure this year there is NO SUPPORT.......unless you like crap, which could be true judging from what has been selling on the Wii lately :)

Eponique

...You fail when you judge what is a good game or not, you just disapproved BWii andFire Emblem.

Maybe I'm not being clear.....those are worthless when you look at the games X360/PS3 will have.

Lair, H. Sword, Uncharted, Ratchet&Clank, BioShock, Halo 3, PGR4, Mass Effect, Ace Combat 6, Splinter Cell Conviction are what is going to compete against your Mario/Metriod titles. BW2 and Fire Emblem....you think they compare to titles like Orange Box, Grand Theft Auto 4, COD4, Assassins Creed, Haze, UT3, Kane&Lynch, Mercenaries 2, Jericho, Stranglehold, Enemy Territory Quake Wars, Skate, Blazing Angels 2, BlackSite A51, ect....? When you look at those games then look at the competition, yes I do think people are goign to still say there is nothing to play on the Wii.

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.gecko_hawaii13

Old games with new names aren't genuine. What does Sony offer that we haven't seen before, except for the fact that they are much prettier?

Even though I own a PS3 also, I would love to see the Wii-bashers try and come up with an answer to this question. Any takers? :D

In two months Sony is releasing more new IP's then Wii has released in its first year. Xbox will continue to add to its line up of awesome games. Why should I wait for the Wii? Wait for what? More Mario Party's and Wii shovelware?Bread_or_Decide

I wasn't talking about "you" I was talking about people in general. You are a Nintendo hater and are unsatisfiable.

There are many games available in Winter and satisfy everybody. These new IPs coming from Sony asgecko_hawaii13saidaren't even "new". They're just new characters, they play the same as other games, I don't care if it has a new name.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="darthogre"]

Only one worth mentioning is Mario Galaxy, Super Smash, and Metriod....everything else is crap.

After that what 3rd party support do they have......oh that's right there isn't really any. Compare the lineup of PS3/X360 to Wii's.....how can you say the "Wii has no games" bash will go away? You think 3 games in 5 months is enough?

Next year they have Mario Kart......that's IT! Face it, without REAL 3rd party support the Wii is going to have the exact problem the GameCube had......yes it had killer 1st party titles every so often but overall it had NO GAMES compared to the other consoles.

Will 3rd party deliver REAL games......I personally don't think so but maybe I'll be proven wrong next year. One thing for sure this year there is NO SUPPORT.......unless you like crap, which could be true judging from what has been selling on the Wii lately :)

darthogre

...You fail when you judge what is a good game or not, you just disapproved BWii andFire Emblem.

Maybe I'm not being clear.....those are worthless when you look at the games X360/PS3 will have.

Lair, H. Sword, Uncharted, Ratchet&Clank, BioShock, Halo 3, PGR4, Mass Effect, Ace Combat 6, Splinter Cell Conviction are what is going to compete against your Mario/Metriod titles. BW2 and Fire Emblem....you think they compare to titles like Orange Box, Grand Theft Auto 4, COD4, Assassins Creed, Haze, UT3, Kane&Lynch, Mercenaries 2, Jericho, Stranglehold, Enemy Territory Quake Wars, Skate, Blazing Angels 2, BlackSite A51, ect....? When you look at those games then look at the competition, yes I do think people are goign to still say there is nothing to play on the Wii.

2 vs 1 ftw?

[QUOTE="nnavidson"]

The problem is the GC formula didn't quite work out, did it?

When you look at notable GC games you get one of these each and they never resurfaced on the system again.

gecko_hawaii13

Yeah, it's easy to call games bad when you obviously haven't played them. Metroid was one of the best games of the last gen, regardless of how many people played it. Just because the GC didn't market well, it doesn't mean the games were crap, as owners of the console well know.

I never said the games were bad and I look forward to the next 1st party updates to their long standing series.

The problem is, asa Gamecube owner I don't see much coming out that's new. I'm excited about Galaxy but history tells us that we'll have to wait until the next system to get another Mario. The same with smash brother. The same with Mario Kart. The same with Strikers.

[QUOTE="daytona_178"]

[QUOTE="SuperMario_46"]Sweet, but you forgot some third party titles: Dragon ball z BT 3, Fifa 08, De blob, Zack & Wiki& Tony Hawk's proving groundsblizzvalve

mna, you must be desperate if your willin to put dbz as a hyped game!

DBZ BT2 was a god game for the Wii.

Good is an understatement. It's probably the best fighting game on the Wii thusfar. (Brawl will overtake it though :P)

[QUOTE="gecko_hawaii13"]

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.Osafune24

Old games with new names aren't genuine. What does Sony offer that we haven't seen before, except for the fact that they are much prettier?

Even though I own a PS3 also, I would love to see the Wii-bashers try and come up with an answer to this question. Any takers? :D

Lair seems to be a unique gameplay experience as well as the first Dragon Game that looks cool. The way you are supposed to control the dragon.....you think that is a rehash of gameplay with prettier graphics? Look at their Eye of Judgement, it's a very cool way to play the card games (if your into that ****), can't deny that is something we've never seen before.

As far as Uncharted and HSword, supposedly they all play differently. Uncharted supposed to combines elements from different games for a unique game experience. HSword.....I'm not sure what that is supposed to bring but people keep praising it for some reason as a different experience than hack/slash. Now Ratchet&Clank does seem to be all about prettier graphics.....that is a fair charge.

Either way thereare games that are more than just"prettier graphics", they are trying to invent new ways to play games too. Hopefully they can find a better use of the motion part of the controller in future games. One thing for sure is they are trying to do it along with upgrading the graphics.

Nintendo is going for a new experience and although it works really well with sports games as well as mini games.....it's a bust as far as I'm concerned with normal games. After watching a live demo in the E3 coverage of that Wii dragonblade game......even the developer couldn't get the motion correct when trying to demo the controls lol. It was quite pathetic to see him moving his arms up and down and all around until after the 4th try he said something like "hahaha, oh well never mind". Yeah that's my exact feeling evertime I tried to play Wii games using the secret awesome moves that I could never get to work because of these funky controls.

[QUOTE="gecko_hawaii13"]

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.Osafune24

Old games with new names aren't genuine. What does Sony offer that we haven't seen before, except for the fact that they are much prettier?

Even though I own a PS3 also, I would love to see the Wii-bashers try and come up with an answer to this question. Any takers? :D

You think Uncharted, Lair, Warhawk, Echochrome, Heavenly Sword, and Resistance are just pretty games? How about new worlds, characters, stories, environments, and new gameplay elements made possible because of the more immersive worlds this gen offers.

Or how about just new franchises to get excited over. For every one old IP PS3 matches it with at least one new one. Insomniac made Resistance before Ratchet. Naughty Dog is making Uncharted before doing another Jak game. Sucker Punch has infamous. You see...something new...then go back to the reliable games. Is it that hard? Not really.

[QUOTE="gecko_hawaii13"]

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]Sony's upcoming list eats that alive, i'm afraid. There are some geniune, refreshing games coming out on the PS3. What does the Wii have? Far too many samey games i've seen before. Nintendo really is the master of rehashing, even if they are an incredible first party developer.Osafune24

Old games with new names aren't genuine. What does Sony offer that we haven't seen before, except for the fact that they are much prettier?

Even though I own a PS3 also, I would love to see the Wii-bashers try and come up with an answer to this question. Any takers? :D

1. Lair is a new IP, beautiful graphics, and motion controls. How can Wii fans bash that?

2. They have a puzzle game that lets you walk a character walk through escher type pictures by rotating the image.

3. Eye of Judgement allows you to play a competitive card game with the PS3 reading the cards and animating the action to go with it.

4. The creator of Katamari is making an original IP. Assuming Katamari isn't a fluke, I'm sure the game will be innovative in some way.

5. Little Big Planet allows maximum customation and player created maps to easily be shared.

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Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

Eponique

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

You don't want new IPs because you're afraid they'll score badly? Those games up there wouldn't have existed if someone hadn't made the IP.

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Zero new IP's is the real downer about that list. Soul Caliber and RE:UC inspire no confidence in me that they will be any good. Prob some more "red steel"-esque apologists showing up saying how they liked the games even if they sucked.

You got the usual Nintendo suspects. Nothing that doesn't scream "game cube" to me. I thought the Wii was supposed to be a departure from that but looking at that list its hard to think otherwise.

norfair_dweller

Not this "new IP" crap. Believe it or not - Most new IPs score like crap.

You don't want new IPs because you're afraid they'll score badly? Those games up there wouldn't have existed if someone hadn't made the IP.

That and Pikmin was a new Ip last gen, and my favorite GC series.